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Q: How easy it will be to determine the gender of Asura characters? Do female Asura have breasts?

Eric: Asura are mammals and female asura do have mammary glands, however they are not particularly prominent the way they are in humans or norn. For the sake of physical attraction, asura place much more importance on the ears, eyes, and shape of the head (larger head equals larger cranial capacity of course!) than anything else. As for telling the genders apart, female asura tend to have much softer and fine features than males and wear their hair differently.

/thread, everybody go home. And you, Yollm, you get a medal for finding this, it’ll help me a great deal with the roleplay guide.

I totally nailed it! Go me!

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Posted by: Twill.6217

Twill.6217

there is still a very finite amount of connections a brain can manage.
this is also one of the reasons that humans don’t seem to be getting any smarter then they already are – we are limited by our biology in that neurons can only make so many different connections.
also, there’s an issue of power supply. a biological cell can carry a finite amount of resources.
our own braisn already consume 20% of resources.
if asuran brain consumes lets say 30%, not only would it stall physical growth, it would stall the growth of brain itself….

We don’t know the limit of human connections, let alone the limit of asura. We may be limited by our biology but asura aren’t. They are limited by their own unknown biology the same way chimps and humans have diffrent limits. You bring to mind an image of a chimp arguing with another that humans can’t have as rapid an establishment of connections that humans have becasue chimps don’t have that capability.

We also know that asura eat "brain food’ and expect noticible results from just one meal.

if asuran brain consumes lets say 30%, not only would it stall physical growth….

think about that :P

what you’re saying doesn’t even make sense because you obviously don’t know much about biology.
a cell is a cell. no matter where it is – in a human, a monkey, a plant… if it’s alive on this earth it has similar limitations (and as far as i know asuras did not come through a membrane from another world, they evolved on tyria right next to skritt, humans, norns and everyone else).

a biological cell is not capable of storing and processing infinite amount of resources because membrane itself will limit osmosis and diffusion.

so you can’t just say “asuras are alien biology does not apply to them” or “lol, it’s magic!”.

i’m sorry but that just does not work for me.

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Posted by: Twill.6217

Twill.6217

There’s one fact that you guys are grievously overlooking: Asura are not human. Some comparisons can be made due to similarities but you also have to acknowledge that they are radically different from humans so it’s highly likely that they grow and have evolved in a radically different way.

For instance, females may still have mammary glands but they just don’t protrude from their chests like human females do. One theory is they may have evolved to sunk into their chest cavity instead as living in caves and often ride inside of golems would make protrusions of any kind a hindrance. Also, the mammary glands wouldn’t need to be anywhere near as big as a human because the Asura are so small. Plus, their culture clearly values intelligence than physical appearance. It’s possible that a bigger head is far more appealing than bigger breasts. That may be why they are also fixated on ears.

You also have to consider that technology is so ingrained in the Asura culture that it possibly has influenced their evolution. Consider the gates. Teleporting matter across any distance of space is still decades if not a full century ahead of our present level of understanding. We’ve just learned how to teleport energy a few years ago. However, it’s so common to the Asura that it has spread well beyond their political borders and is commercially available at a ridiculously low cost. (Well, low considering what the maintenance for it all must be.) If they’ve had such a complex level of tech just laying about everywhere, can you imagine how long they’ve been riding inside of golems? And that’s something we can practically do today. Their current size may even be to better facilitate being inside vehicles.

Anyway, the tl:dr version is, Asura aren’t human so you can’t assume that similarities run deeper than they appear.

well, 1st of all – even if they are not humans they have still evolved on the same planet. meaning they are far more similar then dissimilar.
much in the same way how on our own earth species share similar traits even being millions of years apart.

technology is all well and good but somewhere some time there had to be wild caveman-like asuras out there who had no technology and who had to give birth in good old fashioned way before they even knew what fire was…
..so this brings us back to the question no.1… how DOES one pass a cranium this large through a birth canal so small?

my best guess is that anet devs are simply incompetent and they made a race purely with aesthetics in mind, forgetting all about biological plausibility. because, really, all they had to do is make heads smaller, and no one would have asked questions at all……

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Posted by: Panzerjaeger.7612

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Q: How easy it will be to determine the gender of Asura characters? Do female Asura have breasts?

Eric: Asura are mammals and female asura do have mammary glands, however they are not particularly prominent the way they are in humans or norn. For the sake of physical attraction, asura place much more importance on the ears, eyes, and shape of the head (larger head equals larger cranial capacity of course!) than anything else. As for telling the genders apart, female asura tend to have much softer and fine features than males and wear their hair differently.

The ears don’t really matter! Asura value each other for their personalities and-

What was I just talking about?

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Posted by: Rilke Cadmus.6829

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Yollm saves the day for the second time! I proclaim him “Asura Reproduction Research Krewe Chief”!

Tnekk/ Fyrni/ Rina Selania/ Doroga Icemaul
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Q: How easy it will be to determine the gender of Asura characters? Do female Asura have breasts?

Eric: Asura are mammals and female asura do have mammary glands, however they are not particularly prominent the way they are in humans or norn. For the sake of physical attraction, asura place much more importance on the ears, eyes, and shape of the head (larger head equals larger cranial capacity of course!) than anything else. As for telling the genders apart, female asura tend to have much softer and fine features than males and wear their hair differently.

The ears don’t really matter! Asura value each other for their personalities and-

What was I just talking about?

INCONCEIVABLE!!! YOU DIDN’T POST EFUT’S EAR!!!!!! WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM!!!!!

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Q: How easy it will be to determine the gender of Asura characters? Do female Asura have breasts?

Eric: Asura are mammals and female asura do have mammary glands, however they are not particularly prominent the way they are in humans or norn. For the sake of physical attraction, asura place much more importance on the ears, eyes, and shape of the head (larger head equals larger cranial capacity of course!) than anything else. As for telling the genders apart, female asura tend to have much softer and fine features than males and wear their hair differently.

The ears don’t really matter! Asura value each other for their personalities and-

What was I just talking about?

INCONCEIVABLE!!! YOU DIDN’T POST EFUT’S EAR!!!!!! WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM!!!!!

I’M SORRY EFFIE! I-I JUST DIDN’T WANT TO DISRESPECT YOU BY SHOWING OFF YOUR EARS AS THOUGH THEY WERE A CURIOUSITY!

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

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Interesting… I wonder if Asura have their mammary glands near their genitals the same way that animals like deer, cows or goats do. Might explain why we don’t see any nipples on their chest. (Even if Asura don’t have pronounced mammary glands, the nipples would still need to be protruding so that progeny could suckle from them. It’s actually theorised that humans have breasts because the flat faces of human babies means that they have greater difficulty suckling from nipples without accidentally smothering themselves by pressing their face flat against their mother’s body.)

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Posted by: Dustfinger.9510

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what you’re saying doesn’t even make sense because you obviously don’t know much about biology.
a cell is a cell. no matter where it is – in a human, a monkey, a plant… if it’s alive on this earth it has similar limitations (and as far as i know asuras did not come through a membrane from another world, they evolved on tyria right next to skritt, humans, norns and everyone else).

a biological cell is not capable of storing and processing infinite amount of resources because membrane itself will limit osmosis and diffusion.

so you can’t just say “asuras are alien biology does not apply to them” or “lol, it’s magic!”.

i’m sorry but that just does not work for me.

“We don’t know the limit of human connections, let alone the limit of asura.” : Is what I said.

I know enough to know what humanity doesn’t know yet. i never made a claim or even implied anything about infinite amount of rescources. So whatever works for you, go with it. just don’t try to twist my arguement beyond recogniziation in order to create the illusion of credibility for yourself. Becasue I’ll call you on it.

btw: Humans are the ones from another world. brought here by the gods. Nothing even implies asura and humans are from the same world.

edit: Even if we did know the exact limits of cellular activity, Sylvari seedplants get planted, sprout, grow and spend incredible amounts of energy damaging oponents in seconds. Chances are, magic does play a factor in at least some cellular activity.

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Posted by: fenim.2395

fenim.2395

How do we know they don’t have nipples? If we go by the character models with the glitch… neither do the female human models….. We live in a nippleless Tyria.

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Posted by: Pirlipat.2479

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Q: How easy it will be to determine the gender of Asura characters? Do female Asura have breasts?

Eric: Asura are mammals and female asura do have mammary glands, however they are not particularly prominent the way they are in humans or norn. For the sake of physical attraction, asura place much more importance on the ears, eyes, and shape of the head (larger head equals larger cranial capacity of course!) than anything else. As for telling the genders apart, female asura tend to have much softer and fine features than males and wear their hair differently.

I vote for dismissing this theory for it’s boringness Asura ordinary mammals just like those… how are they called …humus?… Nah this must not be.

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Posted by: Twill.6217

Twill.6217

what you’re saying doesn’t even make sense because you obviously don’t know much about biology.
a cell is a cell. no matter where it is – in a human, a monkey, a plant… if it’s alive on this earth it has similar limitations (and as far as i know asuras did not come through a membrane from another world, they evolved on tyria right next to skritt, humans, norns and everyone else).

a biological cell is not capable of storing and processing infinite amount of resources because membrane itself will limit osmosis and diffusion.

so you can’t just say “asuras are alien biology does not apply to them” or “lol, it’s magic!”.

i’m sorry but that just does not work for me.

“We don’t know the limit of human connections, let alone the limit of asura.” : Is what I said.

I know enough to know what humanity doesn’t know yet. i never made a claim or even implied anything about infinite amount of rescources. So whatever works for you, go with it. just don’t try to twist my arguement beyond recogniziation in order to create the illusion of credibility for yourself. Becasue I’ll call you on it.

btw: Humans are the ones from another world. brought here by the gods. Nothing even implies asura and humans are from the same world.

edit: Even if we did know the exact limits of cellular activity, Sylvari seedplants get planted, sprout, grow and spend incredible amounts of energy damaging oponents in seconds. Chances are, magic does play a factor in at least some cellular activity.

i twisted nothing. you claim we don’t know the limit of a biological cell, but we do. it does not matter what kind of creature it is, on a cellular level they all function in the similar way and have the same limitations.

humans as far as i know came from another continent but not from another planet. so your point is moot.

and once again – “it’s just magic!” is the most lazy argument ever made, and no asura with at least a shed of self respect would accept it!

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Posted by: Dustfinger.9510

Dustfinger.9510

i twisted nothing. you claim we don’t know the limit of a biological cell, but we do. it does not matter what kind of creature it is, on a cellular level they all function in the similar way and have the same limitations.

You twisted my arguement to infer that I made a claim of infinite resources. that was completly false. We absolutly do not know the full limit of the human cell. That is a huge lie. And going back to the arguement that spawened this tangent, chimps and humans differ in connectivity. So…….

Also, cells function very diffrently on Tyria as I’ve shown with the seed plants.

humans as far as i know came from another continent but not from another planet. so your point is moot.

Seedplants automatically mean my point is not moot no matter where they come from but no, they were brought by the gods from the mist. Either way, your point about them needing to be similar is wrong. Which makes your point moot.

and once again – “it’s just magic!” is the most lazy argument ever made, and no asura with at least a shed of self respect would accept it!

seed plants proves magic may play a part but i’ve made more than just the magic arguement. Just because magic is involved doesn’t make it the totality of the arguement. In fact, magic will probably be involved in alot of things, being that it is a real force in Tyria. Any true Asura would know that, given the early lessons of metamagic classes and a whole culture of magitech and Eternal Alchemy.

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Posted by: Panzerjaeger.7612

Panzerjaeger.7612

This is a weird, angry thread.

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Posted by: Twill.6217

Twill.6217

i twisted nothing. you claim we don’t know the limit of a biological cell, but we do. it does not matter what kind of creature it is, on a cellular level they all function in the similar way and have the same limitations.

You twisted my arguement to infer that I made a claim of infinite resources. that was completly false. We absolutly do not know the full limit of the human cell. That is a huge lie. And going back to the arguement that spawened this tangent, chimps and humans differ in connectivity. So…….

Also, cells function very diffrently on Tyria as I’ve shown with the seed plants.

humans as far as i know came from another continent but not from another planet. so your point is moot.

Seedplants automatically mean my point is not moot no matter where they come from but no, they were brought by the gods from the mist. Either way, your point about them needing to be similar is wrong. Which makes your point moot.

and once again – “it’s just magic!” is the most lazy argument ever made, and no asura with at least a shed of self respect would accept it!

seed plants proves magic may play a part but i’ve made more than just the magic arguement. Just because magic is involved doesn’t make it the totality of the arguement. In fact, magic will probably be involved in alot of things, being that it is a real force in Tyria. Any true Asura would know that, given the early lessons of metamagic classes and a whole culture of magitech and Eternal Alchemy.

you, sir, don’t even bother to understand what i’m saying.

i never claimed you said anything about infinite resources. what i was trying to get through your head is the fact that cells would require more resources then they can provide. we know this from real life biology.
chimps and humans may differ in connectivity but connections can only be made in so many ways. if you look at biological structures such as intestines you will see that a blood supply for an intestine of a dog is almost identical to that of a chimp. this is…biology!
if anet insists on asura being mammals then we have NO CHOICE but to treat them as being fairly similar to humans and norns because that’s the definition of a mammal is. in order to be classified as a mammal one has to be fairly biologically close to those mammals, as opposed to lets say… reptiles.

as for “magic” – as far as i know there are “magical” and “non-magical” creatures in tyria, with races being pretty much non-magical in nature, maybe except sylvari.

seeing as sylvari are obviously not mammals i can’t understand why you would even bring seeds into this argument.
sure, lets for the argument’s sake say sylvari are magical unicorns. but that doesn’t change biology of mammals.

anet decided that asura are mammals so no “it’s magic” argument applies to them. stop it.

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Posted by: Snowblind.6754

Snowblind.6754

This is a weird, angry thread.

That is why you don’t discuss sex in polite company. Even if it is a mythical race in a video game..

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Posted by: Dustfinger.9510

Dustfinger.9510

you, sir, don’t even bother to understand what i’m saying.

i never claimed you said anything about infinite resources. what i was trying to get through your head is the fact that cells would require more resources then they can provide. we know this from real life biology.

You said “a biological cell is not capable of storing and processing infinite amount of resources because…..” If you’re not saying i said it, why even mention it?

chimps and humans may differ in connectivity but connections can only be made in so many ways.

How many ways, pray tell?

if you look at biological structures such as intestines you will see that a blood supply for an intestine of a dog is almost identical to that of a chimp. this is…biology!

Cool. Asura are similar AND they may make that connection faster than humans who remain unique in that reguard on our planet.

if anet insists on asura being mammals then we have NO CHOICE but to treat them as being fairly similar to humans and norns because that’s the definition of a mammal is. in order to be classified as a mammal one has to be fairly biologically close to those mammals, as opposed to lets say… reptiles.

they would still be similar. Same mechanics, only bmore efficient. unless you think the human body is completly efficient in function? And Sylvari are plants…..

as for “magic” – as far as i know there are “magical” and “non-magical” creatures in tyria, with races being pretty much non-magical in nature, maybe except sylvari.

source?

seeing as sylvari are obviously not mammals i can’t understand why you would even bring seeds into this argument.

becasue you said “a cell is a cell. no matter where it is – in a human, a monkey, a plant”

sure, lets for the argument’s sake say sylvari are magical unicorns. but that doesn’t change biology of mammals.

We don’t need to change the biology of mammals foe a mammalian species to have better connectivity than humans early on in life. We already see it differs in the real world.

anet decided that asura are mammals so no “it’s magic” argument applies to them. stop it.

You know the catagory of mammal only refers to a certain set of qualities that overlap with other catagories, yes? It has nothing to do with how fast cells conect. Only how warm the blood is, how alive the birth is, etc.

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Posted by: Towren.1745

Towren.1745

We have examples of small mammals existing and being unable to give birth naturally:

Complications with Pregnancy and Delivery

Since these dogs are so tiny, it does not come as a surprise that the average litter is two pups. Chihuahuas can have as little as one pup and as many as four.

Bear in mind that even though the litters are not large stillborn births are common. Your female may require an emergency caesarian section. There is always the threat that the mother (brood kitten) will not make it through the surgery.

Chihuahua pups have large heads. Their heads may be too big to naturally pass through the female birthing canal. You may need to monitor the birth. If there are any signs of distress, or prolonged delivery, contact your veterinarian.

Another point to consider is that Chihuahuas often have breech births. You will need immediate access to the veterinarian or have one available to guide you through the process of delivering (whelping) the pups in worst case scenarios.

Chihuahuas suffer from other medical complications such as a ruptured uterus, or infection of the uterus (acute metritis). The bacteria in the uterus from the infection can cause the death of both the mother and her pups if not treated in time. If you notice pus mixed with a blood discharge before or after delivery it may very well be acute metritis and you will need to get your pet to a veterinarian immediately. Other warning signs of acute metritis include excessive urination, vomiting, or the mother’s refusal to nurse or eat.

Your Chihuahua mother may suffer from hypoglycemia… where her blood sugar drops so low that she can go into shock, seizures and possible death. Her pups may suffer from hypoglycemia as well.

Shortly after whelping (giving birth) the brood kitten may suffer from Eclampsia also known as hypocalcemia, or canine milk fever. The common signs of this disease include: in coordination, panting, twitching of the eye, and severe muscles spasms. When this happens it is imperative that your dog been seen by the veterinarian.

If you are not sure of the health and history of both the stud and female Chihuahua (brood kitten), it is highly recommended that you leave the breeding up to a professional breeder, or purchase your Chihuahua from reputable seller, local rescue group or animal shelter.

In much the same way the Chihuahua had an ancestor that could easily give birth naturally, I don’t see why Asuran ancestors probably weren’t the same. But when the selective breeding process came in for the Chihuahua, things got complicated.

I see no reason why the same logic can’t be applied to the Asura. They’re a race dedicated to improving themselves, who knows what mutations they have given themselves over the years to make themselves more genius? It could even have gotten to the point of natural birth being extremely difficult/impossible. But just as the Chihuahua has human intervention to help, the Asura’s have Asuran technology.

It’s probably an everyday thing for them at this stage of their evolution. No need to go overly complicating it, just compare it to the Chihuahua

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Posted by: Snowblind.6754

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Mammals do NOT require live birth! The egg laying platypus being the most obvious example, but there are 4 others.

They do require: neocortex, mammary glands, warm blooded.

Nor do the mammary glands need to be prominent, humans are the only primate that has large mammary glands. (and they are just for show on Sylvari)

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Posted by: Creld.8702

Creld.8702

Right, I like this thread. The discourse here, while borderline rage mode at times, is very intriguing.

My speculation here would be the mammary glands on an asura are similar to those on say, a rabbit, in that they are low near the pelvic region and are aided by the asura’s ‘snout’ in most cases. Those asura which fall outside this generalization, ie have virtually no snout, are most likely the result of either mutation (meaning they survived infancy thanks to synthetic milk distributing apparatus), age (asura’s face become flatter as they get older), or running head first into things (seriously, look at how they run).

As for the birthing, it would likely be an even greater dilation of the birth canal coupled with an extended period of infancy in which grow occurs at an accelerated rate in the progeny (asura also live 5-10% longer than humans, which could cover for their diminutive birth).

tl;dr: Asura are bunnies. They just grow slower.
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Posted by: Aequitas.6402

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When an Asuran male and an Asuran female share an emotional bond, they move together into a private lab. There, they have… a night together, and in the following months, they build a golem together, a golem unique to that pair. When the golem is done, it’s sent out to Rata Sum, while the Asura move into a room and wait for the special occasion.

After a few hours, the golem comes back and throws a baby at them.

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

When an Asuran male and an Asuran female share an emotional bond, they move together into a private lab. There, they have… a night together, and in the following months, they build a golem together, a golem unique to that pair. When the golem is done, it’s sent out to Rata Sum, while the Asura move into a room and wait for the special occasion.

After a few hours, the golem comes back and throws a baby at them.

I SO want an Asuran parent to tell this story to their progeny in game. XD

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Posted by: Dustfinger.9510

Dustfinger.9510

Mammals do NOT require live birth! The egg laying platypus being the most obvious example, but there are 4 others.

mam·mal
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noun
any vertebrate of the class Mammalia, having the body more or less covered with hair, nourishing the young with milk from the mammary glands, and, with the exception of the egg-laying monotremes, giving birth to live young. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mammal

So, this is an example of the overlap

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Posted by: Entropy.4732

Entropy.4732

It IS possible that Asura females have the dog/cat/rat version of mammery glands: A row of six nipples located on their tummies which are virtually invisible most of the times. Female cats, rats, and dogs do not have large, protruding mammery glands on their upper chests. That’s a human trait. I just can’t see the egg-laying thing. Although the golem baby-tossing scenario seems the most likely.

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Posted by: Dante.1508

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Honestly we only see Children of a certain age in GW2, so human children are shown as about 8-12 years old shouldn’t that mean Asura Progeny are of similar ages..and they are tiny as we see them…

Which would mean Asura babies would be really very tiny and could easily fit inside a pregnant Mother…

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Posted by: Windu The Forbidden One.6045

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Since Anet created the lore, if they say Asura are mammals and they reproduce similair to humans then that’s the way it is, period. And it’s not impossible, don’t try to apply real life logic to a fantasy game

Do you have a source? I only found a statement saying that they give birth the way humans do. That does in my opinion mean they are live-bearing. It does however say nothing about if they are really mammals.

I don’t need a source, I know what mammals are.
Features that distinguish mammals:
-Hair (obvious)
-Mammary Glands (seen when you successfully remove their underwear with glitches)
-Belly buttons (same as above)
-They give birth like humans and last time I checked, we were mammals (stated by anet themselves)
-Warm blooded (the fact they can survive in cold areas proves this)

Check Wikipedia for more Distinguishing features that mammals posses.

Asura are without a doubt mammals.

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Posted by: Pirlipat.2479

Pirlipat.2479

You are dismissing my theory without reading:

Hair: Only GW2 Asura have “hair” afaik in GW1 they did not have
Mammary Glands: The Topic openers question was acutally how they feed their offspring since they do NOT have obvious mammary glands
Belly buttons: Well, ok like I stated before I did not know you could see them due to a glitch
Give birth like humans do: this can also only mean lifebearing, there are some lifebearing reptiles as well
Warm blooded: There is at least a theory that there could have been warm blooded reptiles, so the fact they can survive in an cold area does not necessarily mean they are mammals, especially since we are talking about an fantasy environment.

So a developer-statement like posted before by Yollm is a fine proof, but your arguments are not.

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Posted by: Windu The Forbidden One.6045

Windu The Forbidden One.6045

So a developer-statement like posted before by Yollm is a fine proof, but your arguments are not.

I see, so by your reasoning we don’t even know if charr and norn are mammals?
They posess all features of mammals and they have practically “mammal” written all over them but apparantly that is not enough.

All jokes aside, I merely stated they posses the features that classify mammals, nothing else. Would you be so inclined as to show me those warmblooded/livebearing reptiles? Because I have never heard of such beings.

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Posted by: Embolism.8106

Embolism.8106

So a developer-statement like posted before by Yollm is a fine proof, but your arguments are not.

I see, so by your reasoning we don’t even know if charr and norn are mammals?
They posess all features of mammals and they have practically “mammal” written all over them but apparantly that is not enough.

All jokes aside, I merely stated they posses the features that classify mammals, nothing else. Would you be so inclined as to show me those warmblooded/livebearing reptiles? Because I have never heard of such beings.

There are ovoviviparous reptiles, which give birth to live young (although the physiology is different from placental mammals), and there is speculation that dinosaurs may have been warm-blodded.

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Posted by: Rilke Cadmus.6829

Rilke Cadmus.6829

You are dismissing my theory without reading:

Hair: Only GW2 Asura have “hair” afaik in GW1 they did not have
Mammary Glands: The Topic openers question was acutally how they feed their offspring since they do NOT have obvious mammary glands
Belly buttons: Well, ok like I stated before I did not know you could see them due to a glitch
Give birth like humans do: this can also only mean lifebearing, there are some lifebearing reptiles as well
Warm blooded: There is at least a theory that there could have been warm blooded reptiles, so the fact they can survive in an cold area does not necessarily mean they are mammals, especially since we are talking about an fantasy environment.

So a developer-statement like posted before by Yollm is a fine proof, but your arguments are not.

Vekk in GW1 most definitely had hair and so did Oola, in fact i really want Oola’s hair in GW2

Tnekk/ Fyrni/ Rina Selania/ Doroga Icemaul
“And also… I can kill you with my brain.”
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Posted by: Yollm.2951

Yollm.2951

I honestly can’t see them having a row of six nipples. They’re not clearly based on any animal like the Charr, which are rightly assumed to have six nipples as they are a feline race that has the capacity to move freely on all fours. Asura are, and have always been, a bipedal race. They don’t have any reason to have six nipples, nor do they give birth to a ‘litter’, they give birth to 1-2 children at a time on average, like humans.

Or, at least, there hasn’t been anything to hint otherwise. I’m sure some Asura can have a lot of babies at once, but I doubt its’ a common thing.

And, a note: Despite how ‘boring’ some of these theories are, they are stated, by the developers, to be mammalian, live-birth bearing bipedal creatures with mammary glands. Nothing else.

http://guildwars2.pl/about_lore_and_mechanics_with_eric_flannum_guildwarspl_exclusive,a545

Q: How easy it will be to determine the gender of Asura characters? Do female Asura have breasts?

Eric: Asura are mammals and female asura do have mammary glands, however they are not particularly prominent the way they are in humans or norn. For the sake of physical attraction, asura place much more importance on the ears, eyes, and shape of the head (larger head equals larger cranial capacity of course!) than anything else. As for telling the genders apart, female asura tend to have much softer and fine features than males and wear their hair differently.

Belly button – http://imageshack.us/a/img11/6458/bellybuttonasura.png
Sense of family – http://secretagentcat.com/2011/09/12/in-the-mind-of-genius/ and http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Asura
Live childbirth – http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2056/gw840.jpg

Information re-stated for newcomers.

(edited by Yollm.2951)

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Posted by: Yollm.2951

Yollm.2951

Also for more general lore:

http://43501.tumblr.com/post/43148019000/a-comprehensive-in-depth-canonical-guide-for

Plugging Dinny’s Asura Lore Guide. Great stuff with sources!