[PvP] General Group setup Guardian centered

[PvP] General Group setup Guardian centered

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Posted by: sternenstaub.8763

sternenstaub.8763

Just a general question:

When I look at the group setups, I always see a Guardian at the center.
I realize that the Guardian is the strongest group support in the game, but in a 5v5 PvP game with 8 classes total, shouldn’t there be more options viable then just the guardian as the Group base?

The Problem here is not that I see the Guardian as too strong, actually I think this class is really nicely designed and shows how all classes should be well rounded with strong and weak sides. But putting one class as the fixed center for all groups leads to a situation where the group will begin to build around this class. The other 4 classes will be chosen not just for their individual worth, but for their worth in combination with the Guardian.

As the Guardian always seems to be that center, the groups will not differ by much and the matches will become more and more the same.
Is this maybe one reason for the current meta and why some classes are less viable then others, while they are individually rather fine. And would a Guardian counter solve the problem and lead to a situation where any/more group composition can be made to have a fair chance against another?

Different basic classes for groups would ultimatively lead to different builds that are build around the center and push for more interesting combinations.
Can somebody tell me if this thought is actually right. Not playing tPvP and therefore I have only some information, but i like to theorize and see a lot of the problems discussed in my daily play so… ???

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Posted by: Teutos.8620

Teutos.8620

We actually have a lot of “Guardian counter”, and we have already seen TPvP Matches from Top Teams without the standard Shout-Guardian (f.e. one with a shout warrior, and one with a celestrial hybrid burn guardian who was pushing far).

Think the problem here is more, that we have enough player, who want to play guardian in the current role.

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Posted by: Aedrion.6483

Aedrion.6483

Most people don’t know that Elementalists and engineers can also be pretty bloody good supporters. I’ve seen both classes just sway the tide of battle just by supporting.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

Bhawb.7408

The issue is that only guardian perfectly and easily fills the main bunker/support role. They spam out AoE boons like crazy, they have a lot of strong ways to stay alive, and also strong CC/ways to avoid CC. They fit main-bunker like a glove.

As it is now, while sometimes an Ele can fit that role, ANet has simply never added the things required to make other bunkers viable as main-bunkers. Necromancer has all the trait/utility to support it, but they lack support weapons to seal the deal. And for classes who CAN potentially do it, what’s the point when you already know Guardian will fit the role perfectly 100% of the time?

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