Guild Wars 2

Exedore.6320:

WvW will never be balanced, nor was it intended to be. If you want balance, play sPvP where food, power creep, etc don’t exist.

This is kind of true. Anet from the beginning talked about balancing the combat towards 5-man teams. The skills are meant to have impact on that small level. When you multiply the number of players to zerg proportions, you get completely out of control results. They can’t tone down conditions for WvW’s sake without creating some kind of WvW-specific condition-culling mechanic. Which is kind of funny because everyone wants the exact opposite in PvE. A couple years down the road, we may indeed have some kind of split mechanics between WvW and PvE in order to make zerging more reasonably balanced.

Juba.8406:

^^^

i dont want to sound rude, but honestly if you kept instagibbed by zerkers (which have less to 0 toughness) all the time then you are doing something wrong, although even now before even the nerf hits, meeting zerkers in WvW becomes rarer and rarer sight every new day.

Hardly doing something wrong, a Thief can Steal-CnD->backstab combo in an instance.
And despite having either toughness or vitality on every single piece of Engineer’s gear, my full zerker warrior still has more health and armor without taking a single point of toughness or vitality. Not to mention superior healing.

Going full zerker doesnt mean you’re automatically a glasscannon thats easy to bring down, depsite having stupidly high damage and burst. It should, but it really doesnt.

terrahero please don’t compare classes with warrior, warrior right now is just stupidly op. Also if you think thief is op, you need to think again, thieves have terrible hp, going in stealth doesn’t mean they are invincible, engineers have a bunch of aoe, you can dodge roll if you think the thief is going to backstab you and aoe that area.

Terrahero.9358:

Juba.8406:

^^^

i dont want to sound rude, but honestly if you kept instagibbed by zerkers (which have less to 0 toughness) all the time then you are doing something wrong, although even now before even the nerf hits, meeting zerkers in WvW becomes rarer and rarer sight every new day.

Going full zerker doesnt mean you’re automatically a glasscannon thats easy to bring down, depsite having stupidly high damage and burst. It should, but it really doesnt.

dont be narrow minded, the point here is going zerker/dps make you give up on some survivablity, condi-bunkers just dont give on any thing.

i met a thief that downed me in 2s on my 2.8k armor warrior he damaged me for a total of 26k killing my warrior instantly, im not even mad he sacrificed everything to get that damage something that condi-bunkers can get without sacrificing anything.

when i met that thief again, i evaded his burst and bam hes dead just one auto attack demolished a big portion of his HP, do you see condi-bunkers dead after evading their big condi attack ? nope they just stupidly face tank you and again they load you with conditions.

Juba.8406:

dont be narrow minded, the point here is going zerker/dps make you give up on some survivablity, condi-bunkers just dont give on any thing.

i met a thief that downed me in 2s on my 2.8k armor warrior he damaged me for a total of 26k killing my warrior instantly, im not even mad he sacrificed everything to get that damage something that condi-bunkers can get without sacrificing anything.

when i met that thief again, i evaded his burst and bam hes dead just one auto attack demolished a big portion of his HP, do you see condi-bunkers dead after evading their big condi attack ? nope they just stupidly face tank you and again they load you with conditions.

But conditions don’t kill you that quickly from just one person.

Kravick.4906:

Juba.8406:

dont be narrow minded, the point here is going zerker/dps make you give up on some survivablity, condi-bunkers just dont give on any thing.

i met a thief that downed me in 2s on my 2.8k armor warrior he damaged me for a total of 26k killing my warrior instantly, im not even mad he sacrificed everything to get that damage something that condi-bunkers can get without sacrificing anything.

when i met that thief again, i evaded his burst and bam hes dead just one auto attack demolished a big portion of his HP, do you see condi-bunkers dead after evading their big condi attack ? nope they just stupidly face tank you and again they load you with conditions.

But conditions don’t kill you that quickly from just one person.

max condtion dmg can kill fast and stick on you and damage over time plus it ignores your toughness, its like fire and forget missile, unlike physical when thief burst stops it stops no more damage.

Wow, 26k damage in 2seconds is absolutely absurd. Good thing they are nerfing zerker a bit.

Kravick.4906:

Juba.8406:

dont be narrow minded, the point here is going zerker/dps make you give up on some survivablity, condi-bunkers just dont give on any thing.

i met a thief that downed me in 2s on my 2.8k armor warrior he damaged me for a total of 26k killing my warrior instantly, im not even mad he sacrificed everything to get that damage something that condi-bunkers can get without sacrificing anything.

when i met that thief again, i evaded his burst and bam hes dead just one auto attack demolished a big portion of his HP, do you see condi-bunkers dead after evading their big condi attack ? nope they just stupidly face tank you and again they load you with conditions.

But conditions don’t kill you that quickly from just one person.

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