Inquiry on status/stability of the market.

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Posted by: Sajuuk.5706

Sajuuk.5706

Fair enough, that’s a poor choice of words. It certainly can’t be helping the situation, however.

Mostly I’m thinking about the following, which can’t be helping the markets:

Question: Ascended gear widens the time gap between exotic and Legendary weapons by making Legendary ingredients more expensive. Since Ascended gear is so expensive, the time gap between Ascended and Legendary looks to be larger than the pre-Lost Shores gap between exotic and Legendary.

How does that make sense ?

Answer: Hi Bila,

I agree that the crafting materials required for Ascended Gear are too much of a grind and we are looking to balance the requirements in a manner that is fair for all involved and we had always intended for their to be multiple ways to get Ascended Gear it just didn’t make it the FotM build.

Chris

and

Question: Any plans to have high-end items feel more like adventure than grind/trading post? I like to go to zones and do cool things, battle through a DE chain I’ve never seen before, things like that. Piling up stacks of 250 high-end items and dumping them into the Mystic Forge really isn’t my thing.

Answer: Hi Otter,

Yes definitely. That is most certainly our intention, one that has been misrepresented in the itemization of the FotM.

Chris

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Posted by: Esrever.8613

Esrever.8613

there needs to be better sinks for finished goods, the donation packages are a joke.

There should also be less crap that just requires more ectos and more t6. Why don’t materials just use t5, t4, t3 … materials in conjunction with T6?

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Posted by: Logun.5360

Logun.5360

This is not true. Look at http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/19721 and you will see the price increase started long before the introduction of ascended gear roughly around 1 November. If you look closer you will see the drop in supply (sell listings) around that time that is probably associated with the mass bot banning, and you will also see a slight increase in demand (buy orders) around November 6th – 8th. There has been no spike in demand caused by the introduction of ascended gear.

There was serious deflation in the market after people converted massive amounts of gold into gems for the crappy BL chests (Halloween). Then ArenaNet allowed for the conversion of useless items, from Halloween, to gold via the mystic forge. This is why prices spiked (more gold, less supply from bots) yet the gold to gem ratio remained terrible, gold was added back to the economy in another means that cash to gems to gold.

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Posted by: pulsecodesgnl.3470

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I cannot go too far into our process, but we often set goals; in an expanding market though there is a split between preventative and reactionary measures. If you read my last blog you may remember one of my favorite aphorisms, "Certainty is the mother of quiet and repose, and uncertainty the cause of variance and contentions.”

The problem with not being descriptive on goals with a large MMO, is losing out on an enormously profitable resource of information. The players.

And I’m not talking about the average player that has qualms with prices, but those that actually work with and follow the market frequently. There are most assuredly levels of exploitation (some of which have been bannable offenses in the past), that when met with an market system whose boundaries are unfounded on a high level (designers and development) instead by a controlling minority in the know (players who hopped on the original bandwagon, and now have excess control over the market) it degrades the system of working together that the rest of this game is built upon.

I entirely respect the decision to not disclose information for the sake of not causing contention in the future; I just don’t agree with it in this context. I think you lose out on a lot of information that could help get the market in the direction that you want it (assuming that it is not already in that state).

If it is in the state that’s wanted, then I question the purpose of upgrades that cost upwards of 100+ G for +5 to a single stat. (see high level Ascended infusions), although that may be a question more directed toward the other game devs/designers.

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Posted by: Sitael.4680

Sitael.4680

This is not true. Look at http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/19721 and you will see the price increase started long before the introduction of ascended gear roughly around 1 November.

I do not know, what you see, but i see definetly something else:
[img]http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/dk9l-1e-f457.png[/img]

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Posted by: Astraea.6075

Astraea.6075

This is not true. Look at http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/19721 and you will see the price increase started long before the introduction of ascended gear roughly around 1 November.

I do not know, what you see, but i see definetly something else:
[img]http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/dk9l-1e-f457.png[/img]

Just to clarify… I meant the price increase started around 1 November, which was about 2 weeks before the introduction of ascended gear with the 15 November patch…

Grammar fail on my part sorry.

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Posted by: Sitael.4680

Sitael.4680

Just to clarify… I meant the price increase started around 1 November, which was about 2 weeks before the introduction of ascended gear with the 15 November patch…

You right, but do not forget the Halloween-Event. For some players with a bit luck (you now the precursor story) the legendary weapon is now half so far as before, so they may since collect/buy some ingredients (Ecto and T6 mats). And if i remember right, in this time was also one of the botter-kicking actions from ANet too. AND since the Lost Shores came online, the droprate of the “yellow” items is significantly decreased (discussed elsewhere), so the sources for Ectos are at the moment very rare. Ascended gear is just the last link in a chain of incidents, but it “heat” the market up.

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Posted by: penatbater.4710

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I thought with the advent of fractals, rares are becoming easier to get. It’s just that the amount of more rares can’t keep up with the demand of 300 ectos to make your ascended backpack, and another 500 ectos to infuse your rings.

Don’t disturb me, I have a cat in me at the moment.

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

I thought with the advent of fractals, rares are becoming easier to get.

They may be slightly easier to get in fractals, but are way harder to get anywhere else. And it’s not only rares, but T6 materials as well.

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Posted by: Phoebe Ascension.8437

Phoebe Ascension.8437

In gw1 i waited incredible long before i grinded endgame (obsidian armor). Then suddenly it was crazy crazy hard to get them because super high prices (low supply, high demand), and so few players farming ecto. Secondly my personal ecto drop rate went from reasonable to nothing, pure waste of UW scroll (also expensive).

I promised myself to NOT make this mistake in gw2. Guess what i travelled 16 days in september (two weeks, right when I was about to hit 80 before my guildies). Guess what this disturbance alone, penaltalized incredible badly on me.

Firstly I missed the cheap exotic rush (1-2g a piece, lvl 80).

Secondly I missed the ’there’s ppl on every map, so getting completion is a piece of cake’, now i must work triple as hard on some maps to get the same level of completion.

Thirdly everything has gotten CRAZY expensive. Even now when prices should have stabalized LONG time, it’s still rising. Rising for god’s sake. Every day I don’t farm, the goal for legendary goes more and more away. Yes some days i grind hardcore. But then the next day I cannot see a single zombie anymore and I must go elsewhere (wvw).

I though gw2 was about freedom not pressure. Sure legendary is endgame. But without a FIXED amount of pressure (aka steady, not going up every minute), the endgame gets hader and harder, and puts pressure on people in the form of ‘farm now, or die later due to excessive requirements’.

I hope you actually fix this because, well you know. In the Ama reddit posts they said they would add ascended gear to all parts of the game. I secretly REALLY hope they do so in wvw. I love wvw, but i rarely play it because i doesn’t reward enough. Still if ascended gear (don’t care if it costs 10k badges) is added to wvw, i will 100% focus on it. Now I feel forced in pve stuff i don’t wanna do (fractals, Orr farming, map completion – i like this last one but I want to take it slowly, so i can enjoy the game even after a year, legendary now forces you to do it now, and be bored later because of to fast tempo/repeading).

I really hope the it’s just a precursor inflation, wich means higher T6 demand. Arenanet, please don’t insert precursor (unless you don’t trick me again like in that legendary karka failure where i missed my lonely chance) anymore, until the market has stabalized. Or next event, reward players with T6 mats to even it out, instead of precursors. Now the high precursor ‘ownage’ blocks T6 market, and players to acquire them. I know you guys don’t have enough manpower, but atm it looks like you are to much waiting for the problem to be automaticly be solved.

Clearly there’s even this month (watch monthly question marks) but please please please DONT MAKE THIS CRAZY MISTAKE AGAIN. no more precursor/t6 mats imbalance (that one of both drops way to much compared to the other).

Legendary weapons can be hidden now!
No excuse anymore for not giving ‘hide mounts’-option
No thanks to unidentified weapons.

(edited by Phoebe Ascension.8437)