Guild Wars 2

Doesn’t work in this way.

I placed some items for sale earlier today, and there was around 400 before I placed my order. I bumped it up to 650’ish, then there was a spike that took it to 2000+ plus. There it stayed for a while then slowly dropped down to around 900. At which point it has hovered for around 2 hours. Not because there are no sales, because there are.

It’s just been a sell 200, then somebody else adds 220 kind of thing going on. I have sat and counted (approx) for the last 30 minutes and the total sold is nearing 2000. total currently for sale 870.

Total of my original 250 sold….. 0, that’s a big fat ZERO. Hence title question. Do I really have to wait till the number for sale drops down to 400’ish for my listed items to have sold? what if it never drops that low? As it is right now, and people keep the number for sale hovering at around the 1k mark. I swear the total sold in the last couple of hours must be close to 5k, yet the highest total for sale was just over 2k and lowest was when I added mine at 650’ish.

It should seriously be the people who added before you should sell before you, not those who come after.

Those who come after are selling cheaper.

That’s the only way they would sell before you.

Dulu.8607:

Those who come after are selling cheaper.

That’s the only way they would sell before you.

Errr NO!

I have now watched the sale till completion, a quick breakdown of how it went. Please keep in mind different prices didn’t come into this, there were occasional sales of a less amount but I didn’t count those in any way. So for clarity’s sake I’m going to say these were all the items posted at 10 copper.

for sale before I posted my stack was 407
My stack increased the available amount to 657
in the space of 20 mins further amounts added till an eventual ceiling was reached of 2000+
in the mean time there was sales as well but they were being out stripped by offers.
estimate around 200 were sold in that 20 minutes.
2 hours passed with no sales for ME, but the item available amount hovering around 2k, there were alot of sales as it did fluctuate.
started to watch very closely as the number dropped from 2k down 900,
there was also numbers being added but sales were greater. estimate in that 45 minutes there was around 3000 of the item sold.
still no personal sales.
the amount now for sale fluctuated around 780 to 1030 for a further 30 mins
possibly another 400-500 items sold
still no personal sales.
amount drops to 720 available, then somebody buys a stack of 100.
I have just sold exactly 37 items (co-incidence I don’t think so)
I continue to watch closely for another 45 mins, number slowly dropping with offers raising it again but sales are out stripping offers slowly.
ALL My items didn’t sell till there was less than 407 available for sale in total.

if you followed that, it is either a bug I have been struck with, or if it’s true for all items. People who add to the stack of available items for the same price, after yourself, will sell before you.

Dulu.8607:

Those who come after are selling cheaper.

That’s the only way they would sell before you.

No, there’s definitely something wrong. I posted a stack of 250 copper ore up for 21c each about 20 hours ago (screen says 4 hours ago though, which is a different issue). About 8 hours later, I posted another 89 also at 21c each. 89 copper ore has sold, one in a transaction of 87, and one in a transaction of 2. Exactly 250 remain. I then also sold a stack of 20 copper ore for 21c each, as well as a 10 and 28 stack. Still, 250 remain that won’t sell.

This is the second time I have noticed this, something is wrong.

So glad I’m not the only one noticing this. It is very important this gets addressed, for one reason and one reason alone.

Lets say i created the first Uber OMG weapon that everyone must have, and put it up for sale at 1000 gold. then 20, 000 other people made the same weapon and put it up for sale at 1000 gold. As mine was first it would not sell till the other 20k sold first. I would be the last person to make a sale. By which point in reality demand would be dropping so i would have to re list the item at a lower price to make a sale, even though i offered the first one in the entire game for sale at 1000 gold. I would never ever get that for it because everybody elses would sell first.

not to mention the fact i would be stuck with a 50 gold listing fee, but would probably lose it having to re-list the item.

It shouldn’t be too hard to verify with about 3 friends. Just post something up you know won’t be bought (crap blue for double vendor price or something), have a friend post the same item at the same price a few minutes later, and maybe a 3rd, just for fun.

Then have one more friend buy them one at a time, and with each of the sellers checking their TP, to see which one had made the sale each time.

Well, this is the reason I came to this forum in the first place. I’ve noticed this too, and it’s pretty annoying.

If you try to sell copper for example, which at the time of writing has a stack of 231 thousand listed, you will sell it almost instantly. There is no way people bought 231 thousand copper in just a few seconds.
Another experience to back up my claim was when I were selling copper I had mined and someone added a few stacks 1c cheaper. When that stack had sold out, my copper didn’t sell instantly as it did moments before. This (I think) was caused by a bunch of other people adding more to the stack after I did, leaving me waiting for about a day for the copper to sell.

Edit: Of course, the downside of fixing this is that you won’t get instant money anymore. However, isn’t that why there are buying offers?

Last in – first out (i.e. a stack based implementation) is used in bying offers as well as in selling offers.
As soon, as Arenanet will fix this, people will just trade 1c less than your last offer.

So, it doesn’t really matter if they do a stack or a queue (first in – first out) implementation: As soon, as someone comes after you, you’re lost.

i can confirm the auctionhouse works with a LIFO structure.

both with sales and requests.

so whenever you are trying to buy something and it seems to take too long take the request out and put it back in again and your request is back at the top. however when selling this would be a waste because you would lose your deposit

soon?

any eta?

it would make the trading post more fair