Guild Wars 2

This thread is no longer about QQing that the great swords are better than the rest.
It is now about thinking of NEW legendaries for the other weapon types in a similar vein to the crafting of eternity.

ie light + dark = combined third legendary since there are 3 great swords its not unreasonable to consider them adding more of the others to balance it out

since there’s a lot of asking for darker legendary weapons how about the following

new shortbow : the nightmare
instead of rainbows it shoots shadows simmilar to necromancer staff 1
causes light from fire ie torches etc to flicker more than usual
no footsteps but makes the players shadow monstrous and darker regardless of lighting

the dreamer + the nightmare = the chaotic dream
the appearance and effects of the bow vary depending on which boons you have more of ie fury retaliation might = nightmare; swiftness regen protection = dreamer

Shadow Blade.1324:

This thread is no longer about QQing that the great swords are better than the rest.
It is now about thinking of NEW legendaries for the other weapon types in a similar vein to the crafting of eternity.

ie light + dark = combined third legendary since there are 3 great swords its not unreasonable to consider them adding more of the others to balance it out

since there’s a lot of asking for darker legendary weapons how about the following

new shortbow : the nightmare
instead of rainbows it shoots shadows simmilar to necromancer staff 1
causes light from fire ie torches etc to flicker more than usual
no footsteps but makes the players shadow monstrous and darker regardless of lighting

the dreamer + the nightmare = the chaotic dream
the appearance and effects of the bow vary depending on which boons you have more of ie fury retaliation might = nightmare; swiftness regen protection = dreamer

i like it except for the last part with boons……….

THE DREAMER:
Player fires unicorn heads instead of arrows. These projectiles leave rainbow trails.
Tassles on the weapon sway with the player’s movement.

Is this a joke?

Titan.1580:

THE DREAMER:
Player fires unicorn heads instead of arrows. These projectiles leave rainbow trails.
Tassles on the weapon sway with the player’s movement.

Is this a joke?

I’m working towards the dreamer ^_^

Ulquiorra.6903:

i like it except for the last part with boons……….

Yeah i know that bit sucks, i was just trying to think of a mechanic for the swapping of skins that wasn’t based on day/night like sunrise/twlight and that was the best i could think of, i had originally considered boons and conditions but iirc don’t think many Sbow wielders can put conditions on themselves, but they can do at least one/ two of the offensive/ defensive boons

continuing on:

id like offhand/ mainhands to complement each other atm most of the offhand specific legendaries don’t really do anything. compared to MH weapons

one way of doing this would be to split effects between MH/OH for 1H items ie

MH = weapon trails + attack effects etc
OH = footsteps + character glow etc

imho the combination of MH+OH should give slightly more effects than a 2H legendary, because its double the effort but only slightly otherwise we have the current situation but reversed.

example of effects of combined legendary use

quip +flameseeker prophecies = quip gets the shields blue glow and has a chance to fire paper planes / origami while the shield sprinkles confetti with each page turn

omg shadow if that’s the real effect of using those two, I’d work double time to get both legendaries! >.<

FYI, kudzu shoots flowers.
and of course they are not the same. Some are not finished I would say. I do agree some legendary deserve better effects to the effort of getting it

The legendaries are definitely skewed in favour of the GS. Its obvious they had received a lot of kind loving attention, while everything else is sort of semi-meh. They even have more choices.

The bows are a joke. The GSes are so kitten and have so much effects, but the bows look terribly over feminine. Kudzu doesnt look at impressive at all. A special gripe would be the dreamer. A pony bow shooting rainbows? Is this a legendary or a joke weapon to troll people? The least anet could have done is give another option for the shortbow. You want a pony bow? go ahead. You want a legit looking one? nope, no luck. The current pony rainbow bow would be entertaining for like 2 hrs. After that you’ll look like a kitten and wonder why you spent all that gold and hours working for it.

the unicorn bow is sooooooooooo amazing. There are PLENTY of amazing-looking bows out there, corrupted bow already looks so nice.

I agree with monepipi. I play a Ranger so the bows are of natural interest.

When I first learned of the models, I didn’t believe them. I thought the Ranger community was playing some sort of stupid joke. I actually kept searching for the bow models on the internet because I refused to believe, at first, those were the actual models.

I think while certain complaints about legendaries’ effects are legitimate, it will still mostly come down to personal preference. While the two GS are the most noticeable (purely by size), I don’t believe everyone think they are the best for their characters. Likewise, while I think the Bolt is a very good legendary with multitude of effects, others will not agree. In the end, I think the best approach is to get legendary only if you are satisfied with the model, and not only to have one.

For bow users that do not like either, there are plenty of set forge recipes that return very nice bows (aether, winter’s, and possibly azure) for much less work. If the concern is the achievement (I personally do not care about achievements at all), you can always make a offhand legendary that cost 200-300g total.

ryokoalways, the problem is that most legendary offhands are terrible, and had no more effort put into them than the most basic (non-mystic-forge) exotics. Go look at The Minstrel, you’ll know exactly what I mean.

Yes I know they are lacking, and I acknowledge as such immediately regarding those complaints. For what it’s worth, Bolt owners that had the sword pre- and post change a couple of days ago said the sword has vastly improved, so it’s very possible for them to update legendaries as time goes on.

And I mention offhand mainly for people that believe legendaries to be a requirement because of an achievement (I don’t care about achievements so I don’t hold the same thought). If you don’t care about the skin and only want achievement, there are easily obtainable legendaries. If you care about a patricular skin, then you have to put more time and effort into it.

I have nothing new to add, really. I just want to voice my agreement with the masses here and express my hope that non-GS/staff legendaries receive some shiny new particle effects in the future.

Someone knows of Anet have said a word about the subject? Are they interested in our concerns about the bad legendaries? What will they do to improve the legendaries that don’t look like legendaries at all?

The only legendary that I would do for my thief is Bolt but I don’t like playing sword/any set with it, so why should i do a legendary i wouldnt use? But i do want a legendary in my thief! Can you see the problem here?

I’d say the biggest issue at the moment is the lack of masculine versions for most of the ‘caster’ weaponry.

Shadow Blade.1324:

Ulquiorra.6903:

i like it except for the last part with boons……….

Yeah i know that bit sucks, i was just trying to think of a mechanic for the swapping of skins that wasn’t based on day/night like sunrise/twlight and that was the best i could think of, i had originally considered boons and conditions but iirc don’t think many Sbow wielders can put conditions on themselves, but they can do at least one/ two of the offensive/ defensive boons

continuing on:

id like offhand/ mainhands to complement each other atm most of the offhand specific legendaries don’t really do anything. compared to MH weapons

one way of doing this would be to split effects between MH/OH for 1H items ie

MH = weapon trails + attack effects etc
OH = footsteps + character glow etc

imho the combination of MH+OH should give slightly more effects than a 2H legendary, because its double the effort but only slightly otherwise we have the current situation but reversed.

example of effects of combined legendary use

quip +flameseeker prophecies = quip gets the shields blue glow and has a chance to fire paper planes / origami while the shield sprinkles confetti with each page turn

No off hand weapons at this time have auras or footprints. Heck only a few main hand/ 2 handers do. Only Bolt has an aura, the hammer has armour change. The rest of the legendaries have their animations tied to wielding the weapons.

Combining legendaries would be nice but first they need to improve existing ones. I’d also hate to lose the Bolt Aura.

@Ryoko – Bolt’s animations have not changed one bit pre- and post patch. The only thing that changed is the sound was fixed. Yggdra (my friend) who had the world first (I was there when he made it) has EXACTLY the same animations my Bolt and my Bolt hasn’t changed over the last 2 weeks other than sound. I do agree though, Bolt is on par with the legendary Greatswords. I still like Twilight’s blade skin but I don;t use greatswords.

Legendaries are supposed to be mighty weapons. But a lot of them just look like a joke. Like the Quip, Who would use it? Clowns? Bring back the Ministrel! Oh wait, it was a joke! So who though a streamer pistol would be “Legendary”?

I agree with op.

Slightly off topic, but I’d love to see a dark, evil staff in the game. We only have one happy stupid rainbow one.

Terra.8571:

No off hand weapons at this time have auras or footprints. Heck only a few main hand/ 2 handers do. Only Bolt has an aura, the hammer has armour change. The rest of the legendaries have their animations tied to wielding the weapons.

Combining legendaries would be nice but first they need to improve existing ones. I’d also hate to lose the Bolt Aura.

@Ryoko – Bolt’s animations have not changed one bit pre- and post patch. The only thing that changed is the sound was fixed. Yggdra (my friend) who had the world first (I was there when he made it) has EXACTLY the same animations my Bolt and my Bolt hasn’t changed over the last 2 weeks other than sound. I do agree though, Bolt is on par with the legendary Greatswords. I still like Twilight’s blade skin but I don;t use greatswords.

By offhand, do you mean a legendary that is purely an offhand weapon? I’m going for Incinerator (which can be main or off). It’d be terribly disappointing if it lost its effects when equipped as offhand.

@Ryoko – Bolt’s animations have not changed one bit pre- and post patch. The only thing that changed is the sound was fixed. Yggdra (my friend) who had the world first (I was there when he made it) has EXACTLY the same animations my Bolt and my Bolt hasn’t changed over the last 2 weeks other than sound. I do agree though, Bolt is on par with the legendary Greatswords. I still like Twilight’s blade skin but I don;t use greatswords.

What I read is that they cleaned up the aura/lightning trails, especially at night. It’s not so much a change, but rather some polish. I didn’t have it pre-fix so I could just be misinformed.

Additionally, torch legendary does provide fire steps as well, just like incinerator. Just as an fyi if that’s what you are interested in.

I wonder what main-hand frostfang + off hand torch would look like actually. Both have elemental footsteps and elemental arm covers.

That would actually look really nice, the fire and ice combo :P hope someone makes it! just saw legendary torch awhile ago, very nice! :P (a bit anti-climactic tho)

Personally I’d like to see the meteorologicus get some love, particularly when wielded by eles. It was clearly made for us and IMHO there’s a lot they could do with it + attunements, which I would be happy to see.

I agree with OP and I also feel there should be more of a variety of choices for the other types of weapons, even if it is only one other choice. The GS skins are a perfect example of a light and dark version. They could do the same for the other Legendaries, just depends if they care enough to accommodate us. I hope they do, because, as a necro, I have no desire to waste money and time on any legendary, which is a bummer, since when they were first announced, I was so excited for them. None go with the type of character a necro is.. especially not a rainbow staff..

Unfortunately even going back to GW1, Staves and Scepters/wands are incredibly lackluster in appearance compared to melee weapons (excluding daggers) and bows.

Jericho.5940:

FYI, kudzu shoots flowers.
and of course they are not the same. Some are not finished I would say. I do agree some legendary deserve better effects to the effort of getting it

The lover looks awesome from what I’ve seen so far (haven’t crafted it yet just need 50 more ectos for the gift of luck and need to go to Balthazaar to complete the gift of mastery… and then start on dungeons! ^_^ )

I am really disappointed in the dreamer, not because of it shooting ranbows and being a unicorn bow, but the lack of effects is just uuughh… I mean Even the Kudzu has special projectiles, AND leaves footsteps… Why doesn’t the Dreamer leave footsteps?!
And why does the Bifrost pull a rainbow behind you instead of the dreamer??? What kind of kittened up logic is that?!? (also what even is the Quip seriously)

Anyway to make corrections to OP’s post (just adding effects OP didn’t list)

Incinerator
-when drawn, makes your lower arm burst into flame (whichever one you’re wielding it it in)
-flame burst effect when landing a hit on target

Bifrost
-leaves a rainbow trail behind wearer while moving.

(you should have also listed the legendary torch Rogdort, it’s so kitten)

Considering the simple fact that I don’t actually think any of the Legendaries look nice in their entirety, I can agree with this post. Perhaps, what they should’ve done, instead of making the Legendaries look like terrible light shows and give flashy footsteps or turn stupid pages, or shoot rainbows or whatever BS, they should’ve made them look nice, and then worried about adding effects, though with no effects that’d have been even better. I’d kill to be able to turn off the silly Particle Effect BS on most of the weapons armor that has them, because they don’t do anything but make the stuff look ugly or uglier.

Take the Greatswords, as an example, the Hilts/Crossguards look amazing, but then the weapon is completely ruined by the blade that looks like a shovel, with a terrible skyscape effect, on TOP of leaving stupid glowy footsteps behind.

The Shield, would have been AMAZING if it didn’t glow like some sort of lightbulb and have “flickering” kittening pages.

I’m not even going to go into the Friendship is magic bow, or the Hammer, Or Bifrost, or the other out of water weapons, that all have stupid completely ruining particle effects or character effects.

Of course, I’m also not trying to get any, because I don’t like them, but that doesn’t mean I can’t wish there were some I wanted to get, so that the goal atleast was a viable goal. Unfortunately, like most of the weapons, or armor sets in the game, they all have parts that are wonderful, but then (especially in the case of armor sets) have two or three pieces that completely ruin the entire set, forcing you to mix and match (which is fine) pieces to get nice looking sets. I would so enjoy for them to make an entire set of armor or set of weapons that actually looked nice across the board.

This is not an attack on the detail of those armor sets/weapon sets/legendaries as when there is detail, it’s often very obvious and well made, but more a comment on the…well, lets just say that GW1’s weapons/armor were generally better looking, in the sense that they looked good as a whole, not as individual pieces. The shift in Art direction and cohesiveness from GW1 to GW2 and the shift in the completely silly Anime style BS shoulders/shovel swords/etc. is one that while the world looks amazing, the armor/weapons do not add to this look, but in many cases they detract from it.

Karan Patel.4829:

I agree with OP and I also feel there should be more of a variety of choices for the other types of weapons, even if it is only one other choice. The GS skins are a perfect example of a light and dark version. They could do the same for the other Legendaries, just depends if they care enough to accommodate us. I hope they do, because, as a necro, I have no desire to waste money and time on any legendary, which is a bummer, since when they were first announced, I was so excited for them. None go with the type of character a necro is.. especially not a rainbow staff..

You could argue that frostfang is a viable necromacer legendary as the whole cold and death ideas work together. But on the whole i agree, needs to be some nice darker themed legendaries, more specifically in the caster weapons.

I totally agree with this topic and the devs need to look into re-skinning or making some legendaries up to par with the 2 GS and hammer… Some legendaries are lacking so bad you can’t even notice them. In my mind all legendaries take the same amount of effort to craft, thus they all need to be equally epic