Guild Wars 2

We know what rewards and ofcourse Anet workers can have their opinion what they prefer.. but since all the rewards are clear, I do not see how their opinion makes it unfair, its not as if theyre putting a few mil tokens towards evon or anything

By end of Friday, Kiel was leading by 48k votes, this is quite depressing to say the very least.

Please do not pass up on the most epic content you will encounter in the game.
Vote for Evon!!!!

BuddhaKeks.4857:

Gandarel.5091:

About this insulting stuff, this is, without offending anyone, because Evon supporters are either GW1 veterans who were waiting for a chance for the Abaddon fractal for many years and can’t stand if newcomers destroy this never returning chance, or because Kiel supporters vote for completely nonsense reasons.

Evon supoorters vote for interesting permanent content.
Kiel supporters vote because "yay she’s cute" / “omg dude cheaper wps (they don’t even know that it’s temporary and expect it to be like 90%)”

The 2 aren’t on the same scale. Gnashblade supporters can see the real reasons and blind or ignorant people just make us rage, mostly if we lose this chance to these nonsense reasons.

Man, I never thought I’d say this, but I agree with you Gandarel. Hard times man, hard times.

Yeah, and I am supporting a charr..

Desperate times call for desperate decisions.

Is there a way to see what the vote count is? A poll booth or something?

I’m actually seeing/hearing a lot more people who are voting for Kiel just because of the reduced wp costs, which I think is shallow and stupid.
Waypoints aren’t even THAT expensive, and with the achievement reward chests; gold is easier to obtain as well. Plus, it hasn’t been stated HOW MUCH the costs will be reduced. For all we know it’s just 10%. Whoop-dee-doo.

The reason I’m voting for Gnashblade is mainly the Abaddon fractal. I am very big on lore personally, and Abaddon is definitely my favourite god (even though he technically isn’t any more, but shhh), so a fractal dedicated to his fall just sounds so freakin’ awesome.

Also, Gnashblade is just a more interesting character. He’s the owner of the Black Lion Trading Company, so naturally, he’d be the best candidate to obtain a trade contract and be part of the Captain’s Council.
Ellen Kiel might be a decent Lionguard (though…letting a council member get murdered on her watch..?), but I honestly don’t think she’s suited for a political position.

TL;DR
Most people I come across are voting for Kiel because ermagerd bewbs and ermagerd lower wp costs.

Double facepalm all the way.

Thor Odell.2176:

Is there a way to see what the vote count is? A poll booth or something?

There would be, assuming the votes actually counted. As it stands, the only ‘vote count’ is listed on Guild Wars’ Facebook page.

hannie.8963:

Most people I come across are voting for Kiel because ermagerd bewbs and ermagerd lower wp costs.

Double facepalm all the way.

QFT
And because she’s human.

“Lovely apples” trump a lot of things.

ZilentNight.5089:

By end of Friday, Kiel was leading by 48k votes, this is quite depressing to say the very least.

Please do not pass up on the most epic content you will encounter in the game.
Vote for Evon!!!!

Honestly, how can you tell Abaddon will actually be more epic? (I’d totally go for Abaddon Fractal myself if we were voting for fractals alone, mind you) For now we don’t really know anything about them fractals except their general theme. I have some ideas how that reactor mishap could get epic, too, but its all guesswork anyway. Even tho Abaddon fractal does seem more promising on first sight, its all possible that Thaumanova would be just as epic for reasons … unseen yet. Regardless who wins we will probably get an awesome fractal.

To shed some light on my bias, our team brainstormed up a bunch of fractals for you guys to pick from and then we settled on the best two. I got pretty excited about Thaumanova, given what we intend for it to entail so I’m Kiel supporter all the way.

Abbadon will also be great if Evon wins though.

hannie.8963:

TL;DR
Most people I come across are voting for Kiel because ermagerd bewbs and ermagerd lower wp costs.

Double facepalm all the way.

For those that do, I’m totally with you, those are pretty lame reasons.
Only problem is that, most people i come across who think those are the prime reasons to vote Ellen are Evon supporters.

Morty.8160:

hannie.8963:

TL;DR
Most people I come across are voting for Kiel because ermagerd bewbs and ermagerd lower wp costs.

Double facepalm all the way.

For those that do, I’m totally with you, those are pretty lame reasons.
Only problem is that, most people i come across who think those are the prime reasons to vote Ellen are Evon supporters.

Agreed. I’m voting Kiel because I honestly find her to be the character that I can more easily support, after spending all that time running through Southsun and Dragon Bash events. I just don’t like or care about Evon, it’s that simple.
Furthermore, I am NOT a GW1 vet, and I honestly didn’t even know who Abbadon was until this whole mess rolled in. Thaumanova is something I’m a little more familiar with, although not by much.
Also, Thaumanova seems to me more likely to add to the GW lore, whereas Abbadon will probably just illustrate it. We already know what happens to Abbadon, just not how.
And honestly, the odds of me seeing either any time this year are fairly low, as I don’t have much time for running fractals between Living Story, Personal Story, world completion, and RL. So when it boils down to it, it doesn’t matter to me what fractal we end up getting.
(So I guess I agree with earlier posters who wanted to get the Thaumanova and Abbadon fractals for sure and vote on the other two.)
I guess what I’m trying to say is that I’m voting for Kiel because I’m more interested to see where the story goes from here if she gets the vote, as opposed to Evon.

Wordwyrm.2753:

We already know what happens to Abbadon, just not how.

You know nothing, Jon Snow!

Shiren.9532:

They’ve written Kiel as the good guy and Evon as the bad guy. That’s all they needed to do to appeal the majority of players to vote for Kiel (in addition to her being a known character while Evon was just introduced). Evon winning is going to rely on a passionate minority because Kiel was given the majority simply because of how the two characters were written. The good guy archetype appeals to the lowest common denominator.

Sadly, true. I think it’s pretty clear that Evon got the better toys because Evon was set up to be the less likable candidate. (1) He’s not had a huge role in the last two Living Story arcs; (2) Even though Evon’s been in the game since day one, some players seem to think he’s a brand new character; (3) There’s a huge contingent of the community in GW2 that stubbornly anti-charr; and (4) The writers are writing the script in this living story in a way that will make you not like Evon, creating a false dichotomy.

But given what we know about Kiel, there’s a lot to dislike about her, beyond the fact that she’s boring choice the story is driving you to make. She’s highly reactive, which is fine for a cop I guess, but a leader needs to be proactive. And her decisions (or lack thereof) often leads to trouble she needs others to solve. I’ll personally take an interesting choice over an inept one.

…This is just mad.

Kiel is winning in the polls, and still people post that it’s “rigged” and that our “choice is just an illusion!”

I thought it was in Evon’s favour, because he has things I care more about (I’d far rather see Abaddon’s fractal than yet another story about “dragon energies”. By the polls, many others disagree with me. Isn’t that what this entire update was about…? People voting according to what they’d like to see get introduced?

Neilos Tyrhanos.5427:

…This is just mad.

Kiel is winning in the polls, and still people post that it’s “rigged” and that our “choice is just an illusion!”

I thought it was in Evon’s favour, because he has things I care more about (I’d far rather see Abaddon’s fractal than yet another story about “dragon energies”. By the polls, many others disagree with me. Isn’t that what this entire update was about…? People voting according to what they’d like to see get introduced?

-cough- -prepares Kiel supporter imitation voice-

Sir, you don’t seem to understand. The temporary bonus that comes with Evon is CLEARLY just a cash grab specifically engineered to take advantage of the humongous majority of people’s rampant desires to open Black Lion chests which rarely give anything of significant value for the effort required to open them. The Key discount which will last exactly as long as Kiel’s Waypoint discount (read: both are temporary) will CLEARLY be permanent as a way for ANET to get more people to give them more real money for the rest of the game’s lifetime.

azureai.9764:

Sadly, true. I think it’s pretty clear that Evon got the better toys because Evon was set up to be the less likable candidate. (1) He’s not had a huge role in the last two Living Story arcs; (2) Even though Evon’s been in the game since day one, some players seem to think he’s a brand new character; (3) There’s a huge contingent of the community in GW2 that stubbornly anti-charr; and (4) The writers are writing the script in this living story in a way that will make you not like Evon, creating a false dichotomy.

This is pretty much it. Although better toys only really applies to fractals, since waypoints appeal to everybody.

a vote for ellen kiel is a vote for ignorance

guys through 5 pages of thread We are just repeating same scheme of discution….

@lupercaleb trolling, or maybe You will tell us why do You think that?

If the guy who will be designing the winning fractal has reason to want Thaumanova to win, shouldn’t we be listening?

Vote Kiel!

lupercaleb.6041:

a vote for ellen kiel is a vote for ignorance

A vote for gnashblade is a vote for the Flame Legion.

Vayra.3290:

lupercaleb.6041:

a vote for ellen kiel is a vote for ignorance

A vote for gnashblade is a vote for the Flame Legion.

But… gnashblade is ash leg-ohIgetit

From a concerned Asuran

A furry or a bookah, really? Me and my krewe arent planning to vote for either, this election is very one sided, neither of these two can be trusted to deliver or stimulate our superior intellects. You might as well enter a sleepy into this rat race. Evon recently stole some Banker Golem plans and secretly has the Inquest building them and reaping the rewards financially from the Asuran inguinity. Ellen Kiel on the other hand has been acting strange, a detective gone politician? From honor and justice to deceitfulness and lying out right, something is surely amiss.

At least with an Asuran Candidate, it would be guaranteed to be explosive.

With that being said, know this, the Asuran are always watching you.

folly dragon.4126:

From a concerned Asuran

A furry or a bookah, really? Me and my krewe arent planning to vote for either, this election is very one sided, neither of these two can be trusted to deliver or stimulate our superior intellects. You might as well enter a sleepy into this rat race. Evon recently stole some Banker Golem plans and secretly has the Inquest building them and reaping the rewards financially from the Asuran inguinity. Ellen Kiel on the other hand has been acting strange, a detective gone politician? From honor and justice to deceitfulness and lying out right, something is surely amiss.

At least with an Asuran Candidate, it would be guaranteed to be explosive.

With that being said, know this, the Asuran are always watching you.

[nice sound of heavy bag of coins] actually Kiel wants to give You more resources to continue important researches about Thamanova Reactor…
You know bookah or not, but free resources boost just because some little tokens, You will have anyway dropped into the right box in the right place…
You cannot say that would not be a good thing – Bookah remains Bookah, but it becames usefull Bookah, when she is trying to help You with Your researches with actually little efford from You side… maybe she isn’t as smart as We asurans but some coins will always be usefull when it comes to researches
[writed while roleplaying asura engineer]

Of course Anet wants Evon to win, more key sales = more money and that’s all they care about. Don’t let them fool you.

Teege.4623:

Of course Anet wants Evon to win, more key sales = more money and that’s all they care about. Don’t let them fool you.

You know, there’s nothing stopping them from having a black lion key sale without an election, right? If it’s “all they care about”, why are we getting a choice in the matter?

Rottaran Owain.6789:

Teege.4623:

Of course Anet wants Evon to win, more key sales = more money and that’s all they care about. Don’t let them fool you.

You know, there’s nothing stopping them from having a black lion key sale without an election, right? If it’s “all they care about”, why are we getting a choice in the matter?

-cough- -prepares Kiel supporter imitation voice again-

Because, obviously, there is no choice. Even if Kiel wins the vote, ANET already has Evon locked in to win. Don’t you see? This is all a setup to make us THINK we have a choice.

Let’s be honest here… People are expecting something marvelous about Abadon, but aren’t taking in consideration what we have as fractals at the moment. Expecting it to be the “Best thing that could ever happen” or “Enrich the lore” as much as an Actual dungeon it’s insane… Fractals are short and meant to be done over and over again… Don’t expect Abadon or the reactor to be “Revolutionary”. Instead expect it to be something that we will have to do over and over again for the rest of our gw2 lives…

Vote for the candidate that you think can improve the lore, vote for the one that you actually have something in common… If you want to vote for Kiel, vote for Kiel… If you want to vote for the Evon… Yeah go for it. (Although I have few things against the kitty I’ll try to stay neutral)

Myself, I would like to think what the losing candidate will do…

Will Kiel lose her faith in people and become evil/chaotic? Will Evon plan for revenge on us ?

This excites me even more than Abadon or Reactor…

Cloud.5312:

Myself, I would like to think what the losing candidate will do…

Will Kiel lose her faith in people and become evil/chaotic? Will Evon plan for revenge on us ?

This excites me even more than Abaddon or Reactor…

You have a point here, but I don’t think Evon is the Mary Sue type that would risk his fortune and social stature on a reckless revenge campaign if he loses, especially since the votes are really really close right now. He’d risk killing/ruining a fair number of people that supported him.

On the other hand, Kiel is in a position she didn’t ask to be in. She’s a fair bit more likely to kick up a storm over her loss if Magnus really convinced her she can win.

This is coming from a grounded perspective though, and this is a game. Still, if things WERE to develop realistically I’d rather see Kiel as the character who lost and is doing something drastic than Evon, because her character has more potential to be interesting if she loses (again, realistically- so it very well could turn out to not apply). This is sort of ironic because her recent history is filled with blunders that make her predictable and uninteresting (regardless of what anyone says about her being more interesting if she wins). So it would be greatly amusing and a nice change of pace for her character to react differently to a blunder that Magnus reassured her wouldn’t happen.

Considering who won, this post is irrelevant.

What if this thread is what decided people into voting for Kiel thinking that she was the underdog?

All I can say regarding this thread is that I was a bit disappointed in Konig, whose posts are usually quite a delight to read.

Kyrel.8942:

What if this thread is what decided people into voting for Kiel thinking that she was the underdog?

Yep the nice girl whom we hanged around with for quite a while now and the “total” stranger Charr who seems like a villain…

I honestly hope no one was dense enough to think Kiel was the underdog in a election in a game where more than half the playerbase don’t bother reading anything.