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Posted by: JustTrogdor.7892

JustTrogdor.7892

Your argument is not as valid as arguments about bringing vendors back. Very few ppl just deleted the items now...

How do you know that? Wait you don’t. If in some odd case you do know that as fact I’d love to see your data to support it. And even if it is a very few it doesn’t change the fact that they would be negatively affected if the vendors came back. Or are you saying they are so few that it shouldn’t matter?

I’ve shown you my data…show me yours.

What? I didn’t know you were also Ponku.7925 who I was addressing. The person that made a claim that very few people deleted these items after finding out they were worthless.

Very few ppl just deleted the items now

I know you like to talk about thread views. I’ve already tested and found that if logged out and viewed a thread it doesn’t increase thread view count. I even cleared the forum cookie and viewed threads I never viewed before while logged out and the thread view count didn’t increase. The thread view numbers you are so fond of are most likely not accurate.

But since you like such things, the thread view count for this one is over 5,000 views (which is probably not accurate. see above) . I would think if it was such a big deal that people didn’t cash in their items before the vendors left there would be a lot more posts in this thread about it from those 5,000.

The Burninator

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Posted by: Flameseeker.1563

Flameseeker.1563

From my last post it’s easy to see that i’m one of the guys that got burned but still let me place my pov on the issue.

1)
I would guess that most people in MMOs are natural hoarders, they’ll hang on to everything until a final confirmation and, even then, there’s a fair share of players that will hold on to the most useless of items even after knowing that they’re useless.

2)
ANET has plenty of precedents in which they go back on their decisions and there was a reasonable reason to think that the merchants would stay

e.g.:
2.1) there still are merchants from older LS chapters
2.2) the issue with scarlet chests
2.3) the forum error during last week
2.4) no mention of merchants removal on patch notes

There is also no negative impact on the game to return the merchants and even if some deleted the items i would bet the majority is still holding onto them.

Bonus round:
One of the biggest rollbacks on their decisions relates to the karma gain from potions. Since day 1 we were hoarding the potions and using boosters to increase our gains, having at a later point of the game as a side effect of getting jewel boxes almost for free. There was no warning for the nerf, though everyone abusing the system knew it was to come, and since most player base complained about the millions of “lost karma” they went back on their decision.

Now just ask yourself which one situation had the a bigger impact, ANET giving the option to let players get a couple skins and items or the millions of karma that people were able to acquire after the rollback?

Also, do you think none used the potions after the nerf since they thought they were useless to hang on to? Should this minority complain and ask for the removal of the karma from everyone else?

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Posted by: Trystessa.4708

Trystessa.4708

Why do people care whether they bring back a merchant or not? No need to be a game kitten. If someone wants the event merchant back then they should be able to voice that request here without someone kittening about it. Grow up.

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Posted by: JustTrogdor.7892

JustTrogdor.7892

There is also no negative impact on the game to return the merchants and even if some deleted the items i would bet the majority is still holding onto them.

Speculation where you are only thinking of your own situation and what you want. At this point this thread has been going on for several days. If Anet is following this and has decided to reverse their actions based on this thread I think we would have heard of it by now. Something along the line of another official post, “We have decided to return the vendors. Do not delete your items.” We have not. Given that, I seriously doubt it will happen.

The Burninator

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Posted by: JustTrogdor.7892

JustTrogdor.7892

Why do people care whether they bring back a merchant or not? No need to be a game kitten. If someone wants the event merchant back then they should be able to voice that request here without someone kittening about it. Grow up.

Says the person that had their words turned to “kitten” because they can’t express themselves without cursing. LOL

The Burninator

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Posted by: dbgfeller.8120

dbgfeller.8120

I support this, and many of my friends too.

It hurts nobody, so bring him back pls!

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Posted by: Darquer.6813

Darquer.6813

…and for those that are relatively new but busted a ton of time into Lion’s Arch only to be left with a couple thousand useless belongings? I got lucky and traded in two thirds of my heirlooms but what about the rest?

I haven’t been playing this more than two months and never experienced an “end game” before. Imagine just how overwhelming all of the content in this game is to a new player.

This situation punishes new players, and then adding insult to injury, we have a community of “you should know betters” in the forum. Let ArenaNet decide what to do.

I agree with the OP and several supporters. I don’t see the harm of giving people a break instead of letting them get screwed.

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Posted by: lordkrall.7241

lordkrall.7241

So basically what people want is cluttering the whole map up with NPCs that trades stuff that are no longer obtainable?

Because that is basically what would need to happen. They would need to be permanent, or else someone might miss turning them in.

Krall Bloodsword – Mesmer
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Posted by: Darquer.6813

Darquer.6813

Actually, the Game Update Notes – March 18, 2014, which I did read, says nothing about the items being useless. It only states:

Trading
Rumors tell of a merchant interested in items from major events in Tyria’s recent history, including Blade Shards. Players are encouraged to hold on to these items if they are interested in trading with her when she appears.

This to me sounds like one NPC for all the past items.

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Posted by: Zeem.2564

Zeem.2564

It’s hardly unreasonable to expect Lion’s Arch event items to still be valid throughout the whole of the Lion’s Arch event – of which we are in the Aftermath stage. It’s only the logical time for players to think “Great, events over, time to cash in my chips” …except we can’t. =/

The fact that there’s not even anything else happening in the Living World right now makes it especially irritating. I’d understand if they wanted us to put Lion’s Arch behind us and focus on a new event with new vendors and rewards, but that isn’t the case.

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Posted by: Kal Spiro.9745

Kal Spiro.9745

It’s hardly unreasonable to expect Lion’s Arch event items to still be valid throughout the whole of the Lion’s Arch event – of which we are in the Aftermath stage. It’s only the logical time for players to think “Great, events over, time to cash in my chips” …except we can’t. =/

The fact that there’s not even anything else happening in the Living World right now makes it especially irritating. I’d understand if they wanted us to put Lion’s Arch behind us and focus on a new event with new vendors and rewards, but that isn’t the case.

Well, it might have been reasonable if they hadn’t specifically stated otherwise a full week before the end.

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Posted by: Zeem.2564

Zeem.2564

It’s hardly unreasonable to expect Lion’s Arch event items to still be valid throughout the whole of the Lion’s Arch event – of which we are in the Aftermath stage. It’s only the logical time for players to think “Great, events over, time to cash in my chips” …except we can’t. =/

The fact that there’s not even anything else happening in the Living World right now makes it especially irritating. I’d understand if they wanted us to put Lion’s Arch behind us and focus on a new event with new vendors and rewards, but that isn’t the case.

Well, it might have been reasonable if they hadn’t specifically stated otherwise a full week before the end.

Whether they did or not doesn’t make it any less of a poor decision.

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Posted by: Ponku.7925

Ponku.7925

It’s hardly unreasonable to expect Lion’s Arch event items to still be valid throughout the whole of the Lion’s Arch event – of which we are in the Aftermath stage. It’s only the logical time for players to think “Great, events over, time to cash in my chips” …except we can’t. =/

The fact that there’s not even anything else happening in the Living World right now makes it especially irritating. I’d understand if they wanted us to put Lion’s Arch behind us and focus on a new event with new vendors and rewards, but that isn’t the case.

Well, it might have been reasonable if they hadn’t specifically stated otherwise a full week before the end.

Lol, stating them otherwise doesn’t make it unreasonable. For someone who dont read forums it’s reasonable to expect vendors to stay a few days longer. It’s just that ANet make unreasonable decision to remove vendors right away a week earlier, but it was still unreasonable decision.

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Posted by: Kal Spiro.9745

Kal Spiro.9745

I honestly don’t know what games you guys are playing that this is a thing. Every MMO that I’ve played in the past has removed all relevant NPCs with the conclusion of the event in question, regardless of what they did.

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Posted by: Otte.6014

Otte.6014

I honestly don’t know what games you guys are playing that this is a thing. Every MMO that I’ve played in the past has removed all relevant NPCs with the conclusion of the event in question, regardless of what they did.

I’ve noticed the opposite, that they usually keep the NPCs around for about a week extra to allow players to participate right up until the end…

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Posted by: Moshari.8570

Moshari.8570

I’ve stopped posting, it’s not that I don’t still care about the situation…I still do, and I still think that ANET needs to do the right thing but I do agree with whoever above who said their silence speaks volumes:

1: Their silence may be because they have / had already decided to put the items into the “lions arch merchant” that is coming at some undetermined time.

or

2: Their silence means they don’t care and are going to do nothing and hope this all blows over.

I’ve seen them do both in the past. Hopefully it is the former and not the later, but only time will tell. I’ve said my piece about why I believe it should be done. I acknowledge the arguments on the other side of the matter (even if I don’t agree with them, everyone is entitled to their opinion and belief).

I just hope that ANET realizes their mistake with their form of communication and at least learns to do a better job of it in the future even if they don’t do anything this time. At least make an attempt to hit the most players possible with anything that affects loss of player equity.

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Posted by: Flameseeker.1563

Flameseeker.1563

I’ll add a 3rd:
-It will be added with the bladeshard merchant.

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Posted by: Kal Spiro.9745

Kal Spiro.9745

I’ll add a 3rd:
-It will be added with the bladeshard merchant.

That’s what was meant by the 1st

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Posted by: Flameseeker.1563

Flameseeker.1563

“Lions arch merchant” i thought right away of the gem store.
Though not much they probably could still make a bit of money from the halo and horns there.

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Posted by: bobdobelina.9185

bobdobelina.9185

I’m with Tseikk. Some of us don’t have time to play the game, log off and run the rest of our lives AND read the forums all the time. One of the advantages of this game is that you don’t have to be married to it, and for me at least that means log in, get as much done as possible and log off again to get all my RL stuff done. So it irks me even more that I have to dump my 100-odd Found Belongings and miss that levelup.

Having said that, I guess if tips like this are broadcast in the forums, as a casual player I have to accept that I’ll miss out on opportunities from time to time.

Just DRIPPING with cheese.

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Posted by: ShadowKatt.6804

ShadowKatt.6804

Just thought I’d add my 2 cents as one of those new players who doesn’t really know how things work around here.
I’m certainly not going to demand anything… they made the game, they run the game, they can do what they like… but I had no reason to think the heirloom and found belonging vendors would just up and vanish right when the event ended. No prior history to base that off of. Same goes for checking the forums for important info… why would I be expected to just know I had to check the forums?

And I definitely don’t understand why there are so many people who seem so upset at the prospect of putting the vendors back in… even for a short period… what, you people got burned by ANET pulling some previous vendor out, so now you just want to share the love?
…really?

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Posted by: lordkrall.7241

lordkrall.7241

^ It has more to do with the fact that if they bring them back, they are kitten over people that threw away the items after the merchants went away, due to knowing that they would not comeback.

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Posted by: Zeem.2564

Zeem.2564

^ It has more to do with the fact that if they bring them back, they are kitten over people that threw away the items after the merchants went away, due to knowing that they would not comeback.

Really, I’d like to think if people have deleted their items – like I did with my mysterious keys, cyphers etc – that they would have made peace with the possibility that they’d never be able to exchange them. Deleting items requires player input. Removing vendors does not.

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Posted by: Akari Storm.6809

Akari Storm.6809

7pages saying the same thing over and over again.

Zeem’s and lordkrall’s last post are pretty much the meat and potatoes of my dual point of view on this.

Kitten’d if you do, Kitten’d if you don’t.

I think ultimately I am going to go with precedent on this, after all ….There is still a ticket vendor in the Heart of the Mist. You can still spend your glory while not being able to earn glory in the Heart of the Mist. You can still get a plethora of past living story currencies and spend them or spend those that you had saved in bulk but didn’t spend when event moved on.

You could even still spend some currencies not available anymore.

I can only really remember one currency that isn’t available anymore pve wise beyond the fortune scraps and that would be the captain comms.

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Posted by: Kalie.6748

Kalie.6748

From Patch Notes:

“Trading
Rumors tell of a merchant interested in items from major events in Tyria’s recent history, including Blade Shards. Players are encouraged to hold on to these items if they are interested in trading with her when she appears.”

Hope this helps
Kalie

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Posted by: dbgfeller.8120

dbgfeller.8120

/support /push /do it!

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Posted by: Zeem.2564

Zeem.2564

From Patch Notes:

“Trading
Rumors tell of a merchant interested in items from major events in Tyria’s recent history, including Blade Shards. Players are encouraged to hold on to these items if they are interested in trading with her when she appears.”

Hope this helps
Kalie

Yeah, I think the best bet will be to wait for that and see what it offers for heirlooms and belongings, if anything.

Either way, I can chalk this down to experience and move on since the rewards from those vendors weren’t anything exceptionally valuable or exclusive. That said, I still think removing Battle Of Lion’s Arch vendors from the game before the Battle Of Lion’s Arch series has even ended was a poorly thought out move.

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Posted by: Tyragon.2496

Tyragon.2496

I think a lot of people arguing against the vendors misunderstand the concept of WHY this way a bad decision, regardless of where they posted this warning and whether it was a week or even a month before it.

It has nothing to do with the above to why I feel it was unreasonable. Removing exclusive vendors for an event the same day as the item drops are removed, and the same day the event stops, is the bad decision.

You can spam blog post and even an in-game mail, does that mean every player will be free during that last week to cash it in? No. And whilst you can’t cater to everyone, does it hurt anyone that these vendors stay 1 week or even a month after for everyone to get a chance? No.

Why was there a rush to remove these vendors anyway? Why not let them stay until the refugee camps are gone? The refugee camps are still there and it’s kinda weird from an RPG perspective that once Scarlet and her forces are gone, these guys collecting heirlooms and belongings suddenly go “Okay, nothing more to collect” when Lion’s Arch is still in ruins and former LA residents are still living in the refugee camps and probably missing their stuff.

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Posted by: Frotee.2634

Frotee.2634

You know, going by ingame logic, it’s ridiculous that the misplaced people no longer want their lost belongings and heirlooms back…we are still ‘inside’ the Lion’s Arch arc, after all.
(yes, I’ve been burned, too – I was really busy the last couple of days of the last ‘episode’, and didn’t manage/remember to log in on time to sell my several stacks of belongings…)
+1 to hoping that the outstanding merchant will accept belongings, too.

Polka will never die

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Posted by: dbgfeller.8120

dbgfeller.8120

You know, going by ingame logic, it’s ridiculous that the misplaced people no longer want their lost belongings and heirlooms back…we are still ‘inside’ the Lion’s Arch arc, after all.
(yes, I’ve been burned, too – I was really busy the last couple of days of the last ‘episode’, and didn’t manage/remember to log in on time to sell my several stacks of belongings…)
+1 to hoping that the outstanding merchant will accept belongings, too.

so true! There is even a vendor for the very old fortune-stuff!

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Posted by: Milou.2701

Milou.2701

I would like very much to have the vendors from the scarlet event back for 1-2 days.
Unlike many of the guild wars 2 community players, some people are busy, they don’t have the chance to login whenever they want.
I am one of those people who were busy with work, school, and many other life issues. As much as I wanted to login and spend my heirlooms, and found belongings before the event is gone, I couldn’t due to my circumstances.

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Posted by: Souff.2671

Souff.2671

I would like very much to have the vendors from the scarlet event back for 1-2 days.
Unlike many of the guild wars 2 community players, some people are busy, they don’t have the chance to login whenever they want.
I am one of those people who were busy with work, school, and many other life issues. As much as I wanted to login and spend my heirlooms, and found belongings before the event is gone, I couldn’t due to my circumstances.

/agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

We are as busy as you, Anet.

I’m not an english speaker. So my english is super poor. Very SOrry!

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Posted by: Otte.6014

Otte.6014

It would be nice if they brought them back but clearly at this point they are not.

Which makes me think the traveling merchant may accept them, as with the blade shards.

Contrary to this the post in the news thread says,
“As of March 18th, Alliance Supplies will stop dropping and you will not be able to receive any new Found Belongings or Found Heirlooms. Related to this, you will no longer be able to turn in Found Belongings and Found Heirlooms for items.”

Which suggests they will no longer be able to be turned in for items ever. So if the merchant will not accept them in the future and they refuse to bring the merchants back I would like to throw them away and free up some bank space.

Can someone from ANET please comment and clear this up a bit? This issue has received a decent amount of attention from the community so it is obvious there are a lot of people interested.

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Posted by: Milou.2701

Milou.2701

Can anyone from Arena-Net Staff members give us an answer?

I just want to see if I should keep my tokens to spend them if you agree to add the vendors for 1 day or 2, OR to destroy those token, along with our precious time and sweat, if you don’t give us a chance.

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Posted by: Psilence.2859

Psilence.2859

As one of the many that doesn’t play GW2 super frequently or check the forums very often, I can say that the sudden removal of the vendors immediately at the end of the event rather than a week or two later makes no sense and only causes grief for those caught unaware with stacks of Heirlooms and Belongings still unspent and has no benefit for anyone. If there were plentiful in-game announcements warning of their departure date, rather than only website/forum stuff about it, it would be slightly more acceptable, but even then, there’s just no good reason they need to disappear immediately and plenty of reason for them not to.

I would petition that whenever the merchant that was mentioned for event items like excess blade shards comes (hopefully soon) it offer the same rewards for Heirlooms and Belongings as were offered by the original merchants so the efforts of the many who didn’t get a chance to spend them aren’t wasted and it doesn’t leave them feeling upset/cheated etc.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

draxynnic.3719

I second Psilence’s statement.

I was unlucky enough to have the whole finale happen during a period when I was particularly busy – I was stealing an hour or two here and there just to play the game, and just didn’t have time to watch the forums for every announcement… or, for that matter, think about what to do with the found belongings after getting the Gift of Blades recipe.

There’s no reason ingame I can think of why the Lionguard should have stopped collecting belongings after the battle is over (the heroes may have had other things to do, after all) and no in-game reason why players shouldn’t be allowed to have a couple of weeks in the aftermath to think about what they’re going to do after the rush is over.

Either way, I’d really like to see SOME response on this topic so we know what to do with this stuff.

To those who think Scarlet hate means she’s succeeded as a villain:
People don’t hate Scarlet like Game of Thrones fans hate Joffrey.
They hate her the way Star Wars fans hate Jar Jar Binks.

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Posted by: Vinterzun.4605

Vinterzun.4605

I’m glad this topic is still being talked about. As someone who was also busy and didn’t get to be around for the very end of the story I would just like to know if it’s worth keeping the stacks of stuff I have around for future use or should I just destroy ’em. If “destroy” is the answer then so be it.

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Posted by: Juylyenne.4320

Juylyenne.4320

So they should send out an obtrusive out of character mail ingame, or worse come up with some lore designed mail, each time they want to convey information, or else patch the game, when they can just announce it here. It’s not like Dev messages are obscure. It’s REAL easy to figure out which ones they are, cause it’s all splattered with red.

No, if someone won’t learn a certain way, then they don’t need to learn and they DO need to miss out. Too bad for them.

Not everyone reads the forums and Anet KNOWS this. Announcing it on a place they KNOW people don’t frequent and then people like you telling them “it’s your bad luck” is horrible. Thank goodness you don’t work for them.

Anet should put this stuff in as plain site as possible. Like on the launcher or in-game announcements, where they know people read things.

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Posted by: Kuzz.9516

Kuzz.9516

Why are some people so kitten about the idea of being able to spend the stuff. In example I was active during the first siege event, then got bored took few weeks off and now I have 1000 of belongings and stuff just sitting in my inventory. Wouldnt mind a merchant, even tho according to some it will somehow ruin their game….