Guild Wars 2

Zanshin.5379:

I even wonder if they have an economy specialist at ArenaNet.

they had to “program” the TP

That am 100% sure, gw2 market is a perfect example of supply&demand and the market is pretty well balanced

henry.1420:

Medium armor classes privliege for once

It’s their way of making it up to us for giving us the worst looking armor. I’d rather spend 225 though if it means I’d be allowed to dress nicer. :s

lordkrall.7241:

You seems to be under the impression that
1: They will be unobtainable after two weeks.
and
2: That you won’t be able to craft them after the event is over.

Doing a run per day in LA Under Attack will get you more than enough of the potential limited material (blade shard) to build and upgrade several of those things.

That isn’t the issue. Blade Shards are easy to come across.

The problem is that the Light Armour ascended crafting material – Bolts of Damask – is insanely unbalanced in comparison to the Medium and Heavy ascended crafting material. That puts a significant time, money and resource gate for anyone who is a light armour wearer and wants to craft the ascended version of the backpiece.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

That isn’t the issue. Blade Shards are easy to come across.

The problem is that the Light Armour ascended crafting material – Bolts of Damask – is insanely unbalanced in comparison to the Medium and Heavy ascended crafting material. That puts a significant time, money and resource gate for anyone who is a light armour wearer and wants to craft the ascended version of the backpiece.

I am aware of that.
But what would happen if they added it to require less, mechanically, and it suddenly, for one reason or another, decreased in price rapidly?
That would suddenly make it MUCH cheaper to craft it with Tailor due to it requiring less materials.

And to be fair, you don’t actually HAVE to craft it with Tailor if you don’t want to, since the back-item is not armor-class specific, a Armor-smith can make it for your Mesmer and so on.
It is after all only the Gift that requires crafting, the back-item itself does not.

lordkrall.7241:

FlamingFoxx.1305:

That isn’t the issue. Blade Shards are easy to come across.

The problem is that the Light Armour ascended crafting material – Bolts of Damask – is insanely unbalanced in comparison to the Medium and Heavy ascended crafting material. That puts a significant time, money and resource gate for anyone who is a light armour wearer and wants to craft the ascended version of the backpiece.

I am aware of that.
But what would happen if they added it to require less, mechanically, and it suddenly, for one reason or another, decreased in price rapidly?
That would suddenly make it MUCH cheaper to craft it with Tailor due to it requiring less materials.

And to be fair, you don’t actually HAVE to craft it with Tailor if you don’t want to, since the back-item is not armor-class specific, a Armor-smith can make it for your Mesmer and so on.
It is after all only the Gift that requires crafting, the back-item itself does not.

I really have to ask how do you justify Light armor cost 5x more then medium and 2x more then heavy armor mats?

This argument that you can craft it from another crafting skill is stupid on 3 points.

1: You should not have to switch to another crafting profession to cut costs for the same tier item.
2: Not everyone has time, money or wants to craft up a different armor profession especially if they do not have use for that armor profession.
3: This is a issue just not for this back item but for ALL ascended light armor.

Only thing I can think of is you already have your ascended light armor and are being selfish because you had to pay more to craft it or you are making money off tailors and you do not want your money pot to go away.

So to be fair…. there is no fairness between Tailors and the other 2 crafting professions. All tailors want is it to be fair.

RIGHT NOW. (See, this is the main point. The economy is living, right now it is like this, in a year it might be the other way around)

What would happen if they decreased the amount of materials needed, and then next month there was a massive influx of Tailor materials which will lower the price massively?

Then we would suddenly have something that would be both much cheaper AND easier to craft than the two other crafts, because it was made easier MECHANICALLY, which is never a good thing in a living economy.

lordkrall.7241:

RIGHT NOW. (See, this is the main point. The economy is living, right now it is like this, in a year it might be the other way around)

What would happen if they decreased the amount of materials needed, and then next month there was a massive influx of Tailor materials which will lower the price massively?

Then we would suddenly have something that would be both much cheaper AND easier to craft than the two other crafts, because it was made easier MECHANICALLY, which is never a good thing in a living economy.

That’s not how it works… unless they change the way you get cloth it will always be this way.. so no matter what changes will have to be made. You can not farm nodes for cloth. So please stop living in a fairy tell world. No matter what A-Net does there needs to be some sort of CHANGE. Increasing silk drop rates or lowering the need.. the only other way for them to level the field is increasing the cost of leather and ingots….. I’m sure everyone would just love the latter.

In the end there needs to be a change.. the most simple change that would help right now is cutting the amount of silk cloth needed from 100 bolts to 50.

As Morgash points out the price is due to the way we get cloth materials.
Yes the TP prices fluctuate – but they do so based on how easy an item is to obtain. Cloth will always be this difficult to obtain and thus it is always going to be more expensive to craft it as a tailor.

Saying ‘craft it with a leatherworker’ is a dreadful argument – not everyone has a leatherworker. Getting to 500 as a tailor has been hard enough, I’ve put a lot of effort into it. I don’t have a 500 leatherworker and it would cost me an awful lot to get my leatherworker up that high. – Whereas someone whose character wears medium armour and is a leatherworker is at a very huge advantage.

It isn’t a matter of this being optional content – but a matter of it not being equally optional for everyone. A casual player who has worked hard to get their tailor to 500 does not have the cash to burn on this, it suddenly becomes a non-option – which is a problem when the game is meant to cater equally to both hardcore and casual players.

Ok quick question. My tailor is at 400 and my leather worker is 0 right now. Is it cheaper to level my tailor up to 500 and then craft Vision Crystal and Gift of Blades? Or is it cheaper to level my leather worker from 0 too 500 and then craft Vision Crystal and Gift of Blades?

CHIPS.6018:

Ok quick question. My tailor is at 400 and my leather worker is 0 right now. Is it cheaper to level my tailor up to 500 and then craft Vision Crystal and Gift of Blades? Or is it cheaper to level my leather worker from 0 too 500 and then craft Vision Crystal and Gift of Blades?

Leather working 0-500 will be cheaper. The damask versus Elonian leather is just too crazy.

lvl up leatherworker to 500, craft your backpiece. where is the problem? LOL

CHIPS.6018:

Saint.5647:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but there isn’t a Light/Medium/Heavy version of the backpiece right?

Just craft it with a character who is an armorsmith or leatherworker. Problem solved there. You don’t need to do it with a tailor.

What if tailoring is all I got? This event is time limited and it is way too late to start levelling up leatherwork now.

The event may be time limited, but the construction of the item isn’t. Make sure you have the gift of blades recipe and the blue prints before the event is over and you can make the back piece at your own pace.

Leatherworking is currently 20-22g* to level to 400 and a further 90-98g* to 500 (110-120g total)
Tailoring is currently 21-24g* to level to 400 and a further 84-93g* to 500 (105-117g total)
Prices according to http://www.gw2crafts.net/ as of 22/2 10.30am (GMT)
(* price dependant on return from selling finished items)

So overall not a huge difference between the two and tailoring is actually currently coming out cheaper.
But the cost of the damask will put tailoring at a disadvantage for the gift of blades suffice to say i won’t be making a gift of blades for some considerable time, the prices should come down eventually (i hope) and then the more casual player base will be able to afford craft

lordkrall.7241:

FlamingFoxx.1305:

That isn’t the issue. Blade Shards are easy to come across.

The problem is that the Light Armour ascended crafting material – Bolts of Damask – is insanely unbalanced in comparison to the Medium and Heavy ascended crafting material. That puts a significant time, money and resource gate for anyone who is a light armour wearer and wants to craft the ascended version of the backpiece.

I am aware of that.
But what would happen if they added it to require less, mechanically, and it suddenly, for one reason or another, decreased in price rapidly?

You’ve just realized the real problem with it. It’s not with the requirements for the Gift of Blades – those are fine. It’s in requirements (and demand) for the Bolt of Damask.
Dropping silk quantity for the Bolt of Damask from 100 to 50 (to equal it with all the other materials) and balancing components for armor and insignias so damask is not needed more than Deldrimor or Elonian Squares would likely solve most 9if not all) of the problems we’re talking about.

willowthewhite.2985:

Leatherworking is currently 20-22g* to level to 400 and a further 90-98g* to 500 (110-120g total)
Tailoring is currently 21-24g* to level to 400 and a further 84-93g* to 500 (105-117g total)
Prices according to http://www.gw2crafts.net/ as of 22/2 10.30am (GMT)
(* price dependant on return from selling finished items)

So overall not a huge difference between the two and tailoring is actually currently coming out cheaper.
But the cost of the damask will put tailoring at a disadvantage for the gift of blades suffice to say i won’t be making a gift of blades for some considerable time, the prices should come down eventually (i hope) and then the more casual player base will be able to afford craft

Hate to be the bring of bad news but the cost for Damask Silk will not come down with out the intervention of A’Net. The silk is just way to much in demand.. all three armor crafting need it and silk is harder to come by and more random. Also the need for 200 scraps / 100 bolts of silk per bolt of Damask silk drives the costs high.

DarcShriek.5829:

CHIPS.6018:

Saint.5647:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but there isn’t a Light/Medium/Heavy version of the backpiece right?

Just craft it with a character who is an armorsmith or leatherworker. Problem solved there. You don’t need to do it with a tailor.

What if tailoring is all I got? This event is time limited and it is way too late to start levelling up leatherwork now.

The event may be time limited, but the construction of the item isn’t. Make sure you have the gift of blades recipe and the blue prints before the event is over and you can make the back piece at your own pace.

Yeah I think I will craft it when prices comes down. Here is the checklist of the time limited items that are needed. Can someone confirm that this is correct?

-Advanced Spinal Blades (finish this before event ends)
-500 Blade Shards (Gift of Blades cost 250. And then Tempered Spinal Blades costs 250.)
-Recipe: Gift of Blades

The rest can be obtained later on.