Guild Wars 2

I took my first stabs at Liadri today. I never really did gauntlet last year, stopping at Suriel. So far the biggest troubles I’m having with her is that sometimes I have a very hard time seeing where the Visions are (they can blend surprisingly well against the floor at times), and despite the dome being removed my camera still sticks on that low wall frequently.

I’m using my mesmer; I started off on my necro but decided to go mesmer since that’s the profession I know best. I can consistently get her to phase two about 75% of the time, and from there to about half health before I die. What tends to happen there is I’ve run out of vigor as my condi removal is on cooldown, and the visions blow me up

Still, I’m going to kill her. I’ve got time to work on it, and I’ve got the patterns down pretty well. I’m also saving myself from frustration by stopping once I start getting annoyed at her. It’s just a game, no point to doing something that’s irritating me. It’ll still be there tomorrow.

Verene.1480:

Still, I’m going to kill her. I’ve got time to work on it, and I’ve got the patterns down pretty well. I’m also saving myself from frustration by stopping once I start getting annoyed at her. It’s just a game, no point to doing something that’s irritating me. It’ll still be there tomorrow.

I have no doubt that you will get her =) since you’ve got the patterns down, it’s now just a matter of practice.

I beat her on my mesmer too. During my winning fight I didn’t even have to dodge all that much because I just ended up in the right place at the right time to avoid the AoEs, only using my dodge and blink as a last minute panic option. It was like puzzle pieces just all falling into place haha.

You can do this! Good luck! \o/

Got her this morning on my mesmer (50+ tries) but it was so worth it. All it takes is practice and just a bit of awareness. Is it fustrating, irritating to dies 50 times in a row? Yes. Bu the feeling when you get her is unique.
P.S – She dosen’t need a nerf, she’s not that op, hate to use this line again but i think for some ppl it’s a l2p issue

You can’t “facetank” her that’s all.
It’s all about L2P!
Don’t nerf it, let gw2 have some kitten challange

theodor.3480:

Got her this morning on my mesmer (50+ tries) but it was so worth it. All it takes is practice and just a bit of awareness. Is it fustrating, irritating to dies 50 times in a row? Yes. Bu the feeling when you get her is unique.
P.S – She dosen’t need a nerf, she’s not that op, hate to use this line again but i think for some ppl it’s a* l2p issue*

and for others, it’s acceptance that they’ll never beat her.

and its not the end of the game if you don’t. It’s like she has some uber cool weapons, or is the guardian to dungeons etc.

So if you’re really struggling, and are more annoyed/frustrated than happy with it, Do something else, walk away from it.. there’s more to the game.

I would give you guys my mini (if I could). I don’t care about minis, but I love the title ;D

If some of you get really desperate you can always try to find a trustable friend/guy to do it for you.

That’s what some people did last year.

Wethospu.6437:

If some of you get really desperate you can always try to find a trustable friend/guy to do it for you.

That’s what some people did last year.

This.

Believe me though, if you do it yourself, you will a) improve your gameplay, b) improve the knowledge about your class and c) feel like you actually accomplished something, which is rare in gw2 imo.
If you really can’t do it, don’t bother with her. Liadri was made like because only people with a certain skill level are supposed to kill her (and lifedrainers etc. ofc)

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

Wethospu.6437:

If some of you get really desperate you can always try to find a trustable friend/guy to do it for you.

That’s what some people did last year.

This.

Believe me though, if you do it yourself, you will a) improve your gameplay, b) improve the knowledge about your class and c) feel like you actually accomplished something, which is rare in gw2 imo.
If you really can’t do it, don’t bother with her. Liadri was made like because only people with a certain skill level are supposed to kill her (and lifedrainers etc. ofc)

yeah but…what of us mini collectors T_T, anet, make liadri tradable XD

Taygus.4571:

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

Wethospu.6437:

If some of you get really desperate you can always try to find a trustable friend/guy to do it for you.

That’s what some people did last year.

This.

Believe me though, if you do it yourself, you will a) improve your gameplay, b) improve the knowledge about your class and c) feel like you actually accomplished something, which is rare in gw2 imo.
If you really can’t do it, don’t bother with her. Liadri was made like because only people with a certain skill level are supposed to kill her (and lifedrainers etc. ofc)

yeah but…what of us mini collectors T_T, anet, make liadri tradable XD

You mini collectors can just kill her like everybody else…

Crovax.7854:

Taygus.4571:

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

Wethospu.6437:

If some of you get really desperate you can always try to find a trustable friend/guy to do it for you.

That’s what some people did last year.

This.

Believe me though, if you do it yourself, you will a) improve your gameplay, b) improve the knowledge about your class and c) feel like you actually accomplished something, which is rare in gw2 imo.
If you really can’t do it, don’t bother with her. Liadri was made like because only people with a certain skill level are supposed to kill her (and lifedrainers etc. ofc)

yeah but…what of us mini collectors T_T, anet, make liadri tradable XD

You mini collectors can just kill her like everybody else…

ypu may want to read some of my other posts before replying with whats sounds like a short tempered answer. "like how dare anyone want liadri, if they cant beat her like the rest of us. "

shame on us for wanting mini’, a generally quite casual goal.

she reminds me of a actually-fighting Adnul Irongut. from what I’ve noticed, there’s a hint of luck with her fight. sometimes the rifts won’t pop in certain places, enabling you to focus more on doing whatever. sometimes you won’t notice or you’ll forget about the rifts altogether, getting pulled in her aoe and dying miserably.
just keep sinking your tickets into her.

Taygus.4571:

ypu may want to read some of my other posts before replying with whats sounds like a short tempered answer. "like how dare anyone want liadri, if they cant beat her like the rest of us. "

shame on us for wanting mini’, a generally quite casual goal.

Taygus.4571:

and for others, it’s acceptance that they’ll never beat her.

and its not the end of the game if you don’t. It’s like she has some uber cool weapons, or is the guardian to dungeons etc.

So if you’re really struggling, and are more annoyed/frustrated than happy with it, Do something else, walk away from it.. there’s more to the game.

To me it looks like you accepted that you can’t have everything in the game and that you are not entitled to rewards you did not earn.

I don’t get your point, sorry :/

Jorvych.3064:

she reminds me of a actually-fighting Adnul Irongut. from what I’ve noticed, there’s a hint of luck with her fight. sometimes the rifts won’t pop in certain places, enabling you to focus more on doing whatever. sometimes you won’t notice or you’ll forget about the rifts altogether, getting pulled in her aoe and dying miserably.
just keep sinking your tickets into her.

The orbs have set spawn points but alter in which they spawn meaning they are not actually random. However if you get sucked into shadowfall
kill the orb with downstate #1 to rally

Everything else like shadowfall and adds have set spawnpoints and work the same everytime, just learn the pattern.

Crovax.7854:

Taygus.4571:

ypu may want to read some of my other posts before replying with whats sounds like a short tempered answer. "like how dare anyone want liadri, if they cant beat her like the rest of us. "

shame on us for wanting mini’, a generally quite casual goal.

Taygus.4571:

and for others, it’s acceptance that they’ll never beat her.

and its not the end of the game if you don’t. It’s like she has some uber cool weapons, or is the guardian to dungeons etc.

So if you’re really struggling, and are more annoyed/frustrated than happy with it, Do something else, walk away from it.. there’s more to the game.

To me it looks like you accepted that you can’t have everything in the game and that you are not entitled to rewards you did not earn.

I don’t get your point, sorry :/

Jorvych.3064:

she reminds me of a actually-fighting Adnul Irongut. from what I’ve noticed, there’s a hint of luck with her fight. sometimes the rifts won’t pop in certain places, enabling you to focus more on doing whatever. sometimes you won’t notice or you’ll forget about the rifts altogether, getting pulled in her aoe and dying miserably.
just keep sinking your tickets into her.

The orbs have set spawn points but alter in which they spawn meaning they are not actually random. However if you get sucked into shadowfall
kill the orb with downstate #1 to rally

Everything else like shadowfall and adds have set spawnpoints and work the same everytime, just learn the pattern.

I dont see why minis should be locked to only one way to get them, leaving a collection blank, makes the collection worthless ….. I’m all for titles being locked behind encounters.. but minis should be something everyone can get…………so yeah I can be a bit annoyed over that ok?…..

Most of my frustration with Liadri is directed at myself and not the design. Most of the failures can be attributed to not dodging at the right or dodging when not needed, leading to endurance starvation. Sometimes I thought her Visionaries were too far to have been able to one shot me, but for the most part, my deaths were my fault. I’ve been running warrior rifle axe/warhorn for the bleed on the rifle, #3 axe skill for orbs, and the speed buff on warhorn. My build is 0/0/6/2/6. Any other tips people can give me. I feel like it’s doable, but alas, I haven’t beaten her yet.

Taygus.4571:

but minis should be something everyone can get

Maybe I’m mistaken but everyone can get it oO

Kaellok.8143:

Most of my frustration with Liadri is directed at myself and not the design. Most of the failures can be attributed to not dodging at the right or dodging when not needed, leading to endurance starvation. Sometimes I thought her Visionaries were too far to have been able to one shot me, but for the most part, my deaths were my fault. I’ve been running warrior rifle axe/warhorn for the bleed on the rifle, #3 axe skill for orbs, and the speed buff on warhorn. My build is 0/0/6/2/6. Any other tips people can give me. I feel like it’s doable, but alas, I haven’t beaten her yet.

try sw/wh and lb

you don’t need axe for damage, use traited wh for boon conversion and
cleansing ire. sw/wh for p1 and lb for p2.
she has so little hp that the burn and bleed from pin down is enough to kill her with plenty of time to spare.

if you have enough adrenaline, just stay on lb and cleanse the cripple with f1,
if not switch and use wh +sw for vigor and leap to get out of
shadowfall and preserve a dodge.

you can dodge shadowfall, just count 1-2-dodge, should be pretty easy after you get the hang of it.

good luck!

edit: most people i see fail do so because of wasted dodges.
don’t dodge to get out of shadowfall, that’s just wasted endurance.
if you find yourself in the middle of it, just dodge it alltogether which leaves you in a safe spot for the next shadowfall.
if you are at the edge of the aoe with time to spare,
don’t dodge out, just run.

FLiP.7680:

My zerker professions are Warrior, Mesmer, Ranger; Thief and Necro have zerker/knight mixed gear. Which one is easier to kill her?

Killing her as Zerker is too much effort imo. So much easier using condition~ slap full Carrion on your Thief (green even) and go double P/D and caltrops spam.

Liadri does not need to be nerfed. And just so you know, I wasted a ton of tickets on her last year, just trying to beat her. I never did.

The reason it shouldn’t be nerfed is because the players who have beaten her would feel cheated if she suddenly became easier. It would be easier to get the achievement/mini than before, which wouldn’t be fair for those who already defeated her.

Therefore, even if there are people (including me) who can never beat her, it’s fine. All we have to do is practice, adjust our builds, add some food, and perhaps change professions. I know it’s harder with some than others….

It is as simple as that. All you need to do is adjust your build, eat food, and practice. The only other option at this point would be to nerf liadri, and that should never happen.

Crovax.7854:

Taygus.4571:

but minis should be something everyone can get

Maybe I’m mistaken but everyone can get it oO

I have a disability that makes this very difficult…so no, not everyone can get it.

Some of you gentlemen have got the words “Hard” and “Cheesy” mixed up.
This fight is not “Hard” just “Cheesy”. it boils down to 2 things,
“How is your computer/isp?”
and
“do you run a bunker / passive healing build?”
If you have answered: “bad!” and " No!" save yourself some time, this fight will be a gold sink

Highlie.7641:

Some of you gentlemen have got the words “Hard” and “Cheesy” mixed up.
This fight is not “Hard” just “Cheesy”. it boils down to 2 things,
“How is your computer/isp?”
and
“do you run a bunker / passive healing build?”
If you have answered: “bad!” and " No!" save yourself some time, this fight will be a gold sink

I have ~400 ping because I live in Singapore, a mid-range rig, and I ran a Berserker warrior build and killed her on my 14th try this time round. And that’s a pretty embarrassing number of tries in my book.

Highlie.7641:

Some of you gentlemen have got the words “Hard” and “Cheesy” mixed up.
This fight is not “Hard” just “Cheesy”. it boils down to 2 things,
“How is your computer/isp?”
and
“do you run a bunker / passive healing build?”
If you have answered: “bad!” and " No!" save yourself some time, this fight will be a gold sink

I get pretty laggy from the zerg below and beat her in my 5-10 FPS, or even lower, hadn’t kept my eye on it. ISP can be a killer though if you’re on Satellite or something and get massive delay on everything. Even better if you’re using Hughesnet and have a 1hour delay on skills. Stay away from Satellite kids.

Taygus.4571:

Crovax.7854:

Taygus.4571:

but minis should be something everyone can get

Maybe I’m mistaken but everyone can get it oO

I have a disability that makes this very difficult…so no, not everyone can get it.

Depends on the Disability~ I have one too that makes everything a chore to do. :o and even so there’s still the possibility to overcome certain handicaps, especially if it’s only for a short while like a fight that’s a few minutes. There’s a guy out there with 1 arm who beat Dark Souls, maybe even more. ;o Then it just becomes all the more rewarding when you pull it off.

Taygus.4571:

Crovax.7854:

Taygus.4571:

but minis should be something everyone can get

Maybe I’m mistaken but everyone can get it oO

I have a disability that makes this very difficult…so no, not everyone can get it.

so umm… tough luck? sorry this mini isn’t awarded for effort but
for achieving something (as are many things in life)

the fight will seem VERY hard when you keep dying pathetically. a good rule of thumb, though. after 10-20 tries, take a break for a bit. then go back and try. it doesn’t help you if you all upset about not being able to kill her. ruins your focus, ruins your attitude.

Crovax.7854:

Taygus.4571:

but minis should be something everyone can get

Maybe I’m mistaken but everyone can get it oO

Kaellok.8143:

Most of my frustration with Liadri is directed at myself and not the design. Most of the failures can be attributed to not dodging at the right or dodging when not needed, leading to endurance starvation. Sometimes I thought her Visionaries were too far to have been able to one shot me, but for the most part, my deaths were my fault. I’ve been running warrior rifle axe/warhorn for the bleed on the rifle, #3 axe skill for orbs, and the speed buff on warhorn. My build is 0/0/6/2/6. Any other tips people can give me. I feel like it’s doable, but alas, I haven’t beaten her yet.

try sw/wh and lb

you don’t need axe for damage, use traited wh for boon conversion and
cleansing ire. sw/wh for p1 and lb for p2.
she has so little hp that the burn and bleed from pin down is enough to kill her with plenty of time to spare.

if you have enough adrenaline, just stay on lb and cleanse the cripple with f1,
if not switch and use wh +sw for vigor and leap to get out of
shadowfall and preserve a dodge.

you can dodge shadowfall, just count 1-2-dodge, should be pretty easy after you get the hang of it.

good luck!

edit: most people i see fail do so because of wasted dodges.
don’t dodge to get out of shadowfall, that’s just wasted endurance.
if you find yourself in the middle of it, just dodge it alltogether which leaves you in a safe spot for the next shadowfall.
if you are at the edge of the aoe with time to spare,
don’t dodge out, just run.

I will try this, thank you for the tips!

Crovax.7854:

Taygus.4571:

Crovax.7854:

Taygus.4571:

but minis should be something everyone can get

Maybe I’m mistaken but everyone can get it oO

I have a disability that makes this very difficult…so no, not everyone can get it.

so umm… tough luck? sorry this mini isn’t awarded for effort but
for achieving something (as are many things in life)

Its not life,….its a game…..geez, you don’t need to be so unsympathetic you know.

I never understood why people argued that Liadri needed to be nerfed when practically the entire fight is predictable.

Ayrilana.1396:

I never understood why people argued that Liadri needed to be nerfed when practically the entire fight is predictable.

Because paying for the game entitles them to have everything in it!
I mean, who buys games for a challenge anyway? pfft

Crovax.7854:

Ayrilana.1396:

I never understood why people argued that Liadri needed to be nerfed when practically the entire fight is predictable.

Because paying for the game entitles them to have everything in it!
I mean, who buys games for a challenge anyway? pfft

I didnt buy gw2 for a challenge… thats not what I read the advertisement of it to be. If I wanted to challenge I’d pick a different game. (and thats exactly what most hardcore players do.)

Taygus.4571:

Crovax.7854:

Ayrilana.1396:

I never understood why people argued that Liadri needed to be nerfed when practically the entire fight is predictable.

Because paying for the game entitles them to have everything in it!
I mean, who buys games for a challenge anyway? pfft

I didnt buy gw2 for a challenge… thats not what I read the advertisement of it to be. If I wanted to challenge I’d pick a different game. (and thats exactly what most hardcore players do.)

You mean the advertisement before launch that said the combat will be skillful and rewards timed dodges in conjunction with understanding of game mechanics.
Dungeons with explorable paths that are so hard, that repair costs were considered a significant goldsink by the devs?

Or the premise of fractals after launch that was: Better rewards for higher levels and harder difficulty?

Or the megabosses after that? ‘Bosses that take even organised groups many tries to down’?

Just wondering where you got the impression that everything is handed to you.

Taygus.4571:

I didnt buy gw2 for a challenge… thats not what I read the advertisement of it to be. If I wanted to challenge I’d pick a different game. (and thats exactly what most hardcore players do.)

See, that’s where players complaining about Liadri fail to acknowledge. It’s not your game, it’s not all about you.

Okay, you have a disability, I’m sorry to hear that. On the other hand, a MMO needs to have a variety of elements to please a wide range of players, from grinding content, to jumping puzzles, to challenging bosses. Like an amusement park: different activities for all taste.

What you ask for is the equivalent to have a bypass in jumping puzzles because you have a disability. Or a bypass in a meta achievement because you’re not a hardcore player. Truth is: it won’t happen. You have to accept not everything is meant for you.
Plus, Liadri is not even 1% of the game. It’s not because there is one challenging element for an audience different than yours it’s bad advertising.

And the incapacity of most players to just accept it’s not meant for them is the source of the rage. Too much pride? Unhealthy stubbornness? I don’t know, but it’s clear that some of you try harder than they should. I long ago understood I wasn’t geared/skilled enough to do high level fractals. Did I ask for a nerf? No. It just meant it wasn’t for me. I did things I enjoyed instead.

For God’s sake, deal with it, stop doing something that makes you rage, do things you enjoy!. And I mean it. Complaining, whining that something is too hard, insisting on a nerf because you didn’t have your candy is just beyond ridiculous and yes, I know, you have a disability, and if so, do things adapted to you. It’s like if someone was in wheelchair and was complaining he can’t participate in a marathon. It’s sad, but it’s life and they have to either find workarounds or do something more adapted to them.

That’s how it works.

PS: I would have loved to see most of you try last year at the last gauntlet, when AOE were barely visible, when there was camera issues with the ceiling, when it cost gold to repair the armor and when changing your traits/builds also cost money. You’re in no position to complain this year after all these change. Not at all.

NickChabby.8907:

PS: I would have loved to see most of you try last year at the last gauntlet, when AOE were barely visible, when there was camera issues with the ceiling, when it cost gold to repair the armor and when changing your traits/builds also cost money. You’re in no position to complain this year after all these change. Not at all.

I did it last year no problem! Just Frenzy + 100b = gg.

Anyways, just like last year, I’m willing to help people by ANY means necessary.

Kaellok.8143:

You’re saying you did it with a greatsword warrior?

I’m all ears, how did you do it? Surely it wasn’t that simple?

Not exactly but I burst her down in less than 10 seconds (http://youtu.be/KYAjo4ZZXLo?t=55s). Bull’s Charge, Fear Me! right before hit, then Frenzy, 100b, Whirlwind, Tremor (Mace knock) and Axe Chops.

Also works perfectly fine even this year (Defiant Stance and Strength runes).

Oh, and did 8-orb too, just Warhorn instead of Mace. I threw 9 orbs (to be safe) and then burst her down.

Wethospu.6437:

NickChabby.8907:

PS: I would have loved to see most of you try last year at the last gauntlet, when AOE were barely visible, when there was camera issues with the ceiling, when it cost gold to repair the armor and when changing your traits/builds also cost money. You’re in no position to complain this year after all these change. Not at all.

I did it last year no problem! Just Frenzy + 100b = gg.

Anyways, just like last year, I’m willing to help people by ANY means necessary.

You’re saying you did it with a greatsword warrior?

I’m all ears, how did you do it? Surely it wasn’t that simple?

Kaellok.8143:

Wethospu.6437:

NickChabby.8907:

PS: I would have loved to see most of you try last year at the last gauntlet, when AOE were barely visible, when there was camera issues with the ceiling, when it cost gold to repair the armor and when changing your traits/builds also cost money. You’re in no position to complain this year after all these change. Not at all.

I did it last year no problem! Just Frenzy + 100b = gg.

Anyways, just like last year, I’m willing to help people by ANY means necessary.

You’re saying you did it with a greatsword warrior?

I’m all ears, how did you do it? Surely it wasn’t that simple?

Fear me or stomp against the wall and frenzy hb. nothing more to it.
endure pain to survive shadowfall.

Crovax.7854:

Kaellok.8143:

Wethospu.6437:

NickChabby.8907:

PS: I would have loved to see most of you try last year at the last gauntlet, when AOE were barely visible, when there was camera issues with the ceiling, when it cost gold to repair the armor and when changing your traits/builds also cost money. You’re in no position to complain this year after all these change. Not at all.

I did it last year no problem! Just Frenzy + 100b = gg.

Anyways, just like last year, I’m willing to help people by ANY means necessary.

You’re saying you did it with a greatsword warrior?

I’m all ears, how did you do it? Surely it wasn’t that simple?

Fear me or stomp against the wall and frenzy hb. nothing more to it.
endure pain to survive shadowfall.

I will try this as well. And I will laugh all the way to the bank if it works.

120+tries ..(not sure, I stopped counting)…

I finally beat her… my hands are screaming at me… the fight was horrible.

I’m telling this for anyone who’s thinking of giving up. Don’t.

also no, I dont feel great for beating her, unlike every one else who likes the challenge. She is a very frustrating fight..I hate it, .but I;m glad to have my mini..

Taygus.4571:

120+tries ..(not sure, I stopped counting)…

I finally beat her… my hands are screaming at me… the fight was horrible.

I’m telling this for anyone who’s thinking of giving up. Don’t.

also no, I dont feel great for beating her, unlike every one else who likes the challenge. She is a very frustrating fight..I hate it, .but I;m glad to have my mini..

:D Gratz. I’m not a big fan of challenge either so I know what you mean. Glad it’s over with, don’t want to do it or another fight like it again.

Taygus.4571:

120+tries ..(not sure, I stopped counting)…

I finally beat her… my hands are screaming at me… the fight was horrible.

I’m telling this for anyone who’s thinking of giving up. Don’t.

also no, I dont feel great for beating her, unlike every one else who likes the challenge. She is a very frustrating fight..I hate it, .but I;m glad to have my mini..

Guess i was right and you could just beat her like everybody else with more than 3 weeks to spare…
But hey, let’s just cry for free ‘rewards’.

Crovax.7854:

Taygus.4571:

120+tries ..(not sure, I stopped counting)…

I finally beat her… my hands are screaming at me… the fight was horrible.

I’m telling this for anyone who’s thinking of giving up. Don’t.

also no, I dont feel great for beating her, unlike every one else who likes the challenge. She is a very frustrating fight..I hate it, .but I;m glad to have my mini..

Guess i was right and you could just beat her like everybody else with more than 3 weeks to spare…
But hey, let’s just cry for free ‘rewards’.

wait, I still have three weeks to beat her?

Jorvych.3064:

Crovax.7854:

Taygus.4571:

120+tries ..(not sure, I stopped counting)…

I finally beat her… my hands are screaming at me… the fight was horrible.

I’m telling this for anyone who’s thinking of giving up. Don’t.

also no, I dont feel great for beating her, unlike every one else who likes the challenge. She is a very frustrating fight..I hate it, .but I;m glad to have my mini..

Guess i was right and you could just beat her like everybody else with more than 3 weeks to spare…
But hey, let’s just cry for free ‘rewards’.

wait, I still have three weeks to beat her?

err i just said ‘3’ by habit since Anet realeases in s1 were usually 2week content to start with the next release building upon the first, bringing it to a total of 4 weeks for realease 1 and 2 weeks for release 2.

it might as well be over 1 week to go but that still means we haven’t even reached half time and people already start to whine.

Crovax.7854:

Taygus.4571:

120+tries ..(not sure, I stopped counting)…

I finally beat her… my hands are screaming at me… the fight was horrible.

I’m telling this for anyone who’s thinking of giving up. Don’t.

also no, I dont feel great for beating her, unlike every one else who likes the challenge. She is a very frustrating fight..I hate it, .but I;m glad to have my mini..

Guess i was right and you could just beat her like everybody else with more than 3 weeks to spare…
But hey, let’s just cry for free ‘rewards’.

I still think there should be an alternative way to get her mini.

and she was extremely difficult for me.

Tried to kill her 12 times on my Necro, before doing the smart thing and switching to my PU mesmer and immediately killed her first try without any further problems. Some classes have just got much better abilities to position and defend themselves. Death Shroud for example, Necros only defensive move really, is just a health bar extension making it quite useless in one shot encounters. Block, vigor, increased endurance, regen, invulnerability, distortion, evade, stealth, reflect, Aegis, basically anything necros have limeited or more likely no access to are infinitely more useful in this fight. Not to mention targetted blinks, leaps, etc for better positioning. About the only thing that the necro can do better in this fight is Life leech her down without removing her shield. Which feels like a bug to me, and why I wont do it that way.

I’m surprised there is no Liadri + all gambits achieve

Yeah, I finished it pretty easy. If I can beat it, anyone can.

Sobat.8650:

I’m surprised there is no Liadri + all gambits achieve

Not too bad on thief, due to scorpion wire, stealth, and SB 5 teleport and the number of evade abilities. 8 Orbs is rough timer is the main concern due to squeamish

Doable on mesmer but must be perfect with curtain pulls of visions. Though surprisingly 8 orbs is easier as curtain pull affects multiple targets and you can get a bunch of orbs really fast and still beat the timer.

Maybe possible on (gs + scept focus) guard due to all the blocks available, but dps is again an issue as i cannot seem to beat the timer as of yet.

Myst.5783:

Yeah,* I finished it pretty easy*. If I can beat it, anyone can.

ALot of people are finding it difficult.

If it was easy for you…than saying if “I can beat it anyone can” is a little false……….

I have done the 8 orbs one. Took me 3 days and 90 tickets.

Let’s face it, she’s hard, but that’s GOOD in so many ways that makes this thread useless. The game needs challenging content that keeps you improving slowly, trying every different build that you can try to find the best combo for this specific enemy. For god shake, i learnt how to efficiently blind enemies in this fight, something that was never “really” useful in other places of the game or i never needed to use.
And that’s good! it fights the lazyness of getting used to an easy playstyle in pve or zergs.

Sobat.8650:

I’m surprised there is no Liadri + all gambits achieve

Because not every class could achieve this, probably.

Ha! People complaining about her now should have been here in season 1 when they had the domes(forcing weird camera angles.) Intense screen lag(since i ran on a gaming laptop before, 10-15 fps) from the 1 spamming monster zergs below, and no aoe indicators that made “Shadow Fall” near invisible except for the particle effect above. Rifts that were buggy that couldn’t be hit with projectiles. They made her a lot easier to fight with the new AoE markers, no dome to force weird angles, and less blob trains because it isn’t farm quest below anymore(need to split up).

She’s a bit difficult but not impossible/God mode(compared to last year she’s much easier). I think people either need to change their gear/spec, or just play better. She requires finesse of knowing how to dodge correctly, awareness, and good descision making. Anet did a good job on her though to say the least for something challenging. I get the feel old feel in Kingdom Heart’s Olympus Arena fighting Sephiroth and beating him :P. You feel good about yourself after beating her. I’ve got mini for my hardships last year, and now a title since she’s much easier this year :P

Last year I was pretty bad at the game, so it took me a bunch of tries to simply beat her.
This year, feeling a lot more confident with my profession, gear of choice and traits, I managed to get the title on my first try and then the eight orb achievement after some more attempts.

Full zerker gear, 5/6/0/0/3 focused on damage
Axe/(Sword or Warhorn)
GS

You can do it, people, just abandon your zone of comfort.