Guild Wars 2

PopeUrban.2578:

C: Couldn’t attend the event
Again, Boo hoo. No matter how it is scheduled, no matter for how long it runs, there will always be people that can’t attend. The only alternative to this is to never hold one time events. This means no holiday festivals, no world-changing events (because golly, new players won’t ever get to experience the old content that’s being replaced!) and a completely static world. Those exist already, in a large library of both multiplayer and single player games. How SUPER important is is that you missed something? If it was that important to you, would you not have somehow adjusted your schedule to attend? If not… then is it really that important?

Or, you know, they could repeat the event multiple times during a single day, THE WAY THEY DID IT IN GW1.

supergica.8652:

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They complained precursors are to rare, they made them more common, now they’re complaining they didn’t get any on a silver platter. Give them one on a silver platter, they’ll complain everyone has one…

Exactly. Very sad, too. Even worse, is they all pretend they’re ‘so mature and above it all…’ Right up until they throw the temper-tantrum.

Hyper Cutter.9376:

PopeUrban.2578:

C: Couldn’t attend the event
Again, Boo hoo. No matter how it is scheduled, no matter for how long it runs, there will always be people that can’t attend. The only alternative to this is to never hold one time events. This means no holiday festivals, no world-changing events (because golly, new players won’t ever get to experience the old content that’s being replaced!) and a completely static world. Those exist already, in a large library of both multiplayer and single player games. How SUPER important is is that you missed something? If it was that important to you, would you not have somehow adjusted your schedule to attend? If not… then is it really that important?

Or, you know, they could repeat the event multiple times during a single day, THE WAY THEY DID IT IN GW1.

Good point, but it would do little to expunge the complaints. People complained about halloween. People will complain that “I had to do X all day that day and I missed it” Etc.

The point I’m making here is that, no matter how conveniently you schedule an event, people are going to miss it due to real life obligations

If you miss an ingame event due to real life, then was it really so important to you that you have need of complaining that you did not make time to attend the event you care enough about to complain you were unable to attend?

Chances are, if you missed it due to scheduling, then it was not as important as whatever you were doing that caused you to miss it. I missed several GW1 halloweens and wintersdays. I did not however posit that they should be adjusted or scheduled in such a way that they fit my specific personal time constraints, nor did I angrily rant about how the fact that I could not set aside time to attend was someone else’s fault.

People will miss events. I will miss events. You will miss events. I wasn’t able to do Miyani’s quest chain in this one. I wish I was but I had other things to be doing. That’s no reason for me to come to the forums and demand it be extended, repeated, or made accessible in a way that makes me, and my personal schedule compatible with it.

Next people will be claiming that all random loot should be removed and everything should be obtained solely by some ultimately fair but uninteresting credit system.

Oh wait.

PopeUrban.2578

People will miss events. I will miss events. You will miss events. I wasn’t able to do Miyani’s quest chain in this one. I wish I was but I had other things to be doing. That’s no reason for me to come to the forums and demand it be extended, repeated, or made accessible in a way that makes me, and my personal schedule compatible with it.

I agree that making one-time events repeat for 24h would not expunge all the complaining because nothing ever does.

But when you’re talking about missing events: it’s one thing to opt to miss an event that you could make, and another to be completely unable to attend a once-off event because of your timezone. 12 noon PST is pretty much a horrible timing if you’re in Asia or Oceania.

Nobody should expect to be able to attend all events, because other things crop up and take precedence – but nobody should be expecting to automatically miss out on all the events due to timezone, either. (Which is what will happen if one-time events keep getting released at 12 noon PST Sunday.)

epicsmooth.7825:

Sooo went from 40% to 25% now….

The percentage does not matter. It could be 1%, but the fact remains, a one time event that left a large chunk of the world at a disadvantage, allowed others to get those items via the 1% RNG factor.

I would guess in a dungeon or a world boss chest, there would be two treasure tables. One used to determine level/type of item and the other to determine the item. It seems in Lost Shores, the first treasure table was done away with and everyone automatically got exotics (which then allowed the 1% precursor win factor).

Not good planning on Anet’s behalf really.

This event has been a disaster thanks to the end chest. A massive wedge has split the community now and it isn’t going to heal easily.

Sarevok.2638:

This event has been a disaster thanks to the end chest. A massive wedge has split the community now and it isn’t going to heal easily.

And you, sir, are that wedge! Congratulations.

People have been asking them to do something about the ever increasing cost of precursors. Now they have.

Instead of complaining, go buy your half price precursor and be glad you saved 150g over last weeks prices.

(No, I didn’t get one in the chest. Yes, I am working towards a legendary.)

glacialphoenix.3160:

I agree that making one-time events repeat for 24h would not expunge all the complaining because nothing ever does.

But when you’re talking about missing events: it’s one thing to opt to miss an event that you could make, and another to be completely unable to attend a once-off event because of your timezone. 12 noon PST is pretty much a horrible timing if you’re in Asia or Oceania.

Nobody should expect to be able to attend all events, because other things crop up and take precedence – but nobody should be expecting to automatically miss out on all the events due to timezone, either. (Which is what will happen if one-time events keep getting released at 12 noon PST Sunday.)

^^ This x <insert number>

I don’t see too many folks in the timezones affected by the 12 noon PST time frame demanding that they get things scheduled to only suit them.

I see them asking that the concept of “one time” events be worked to include them.

Y’know – really, all they’re asking for is an equal opportunity to attend than is given to other time zones? And yet folks here on the forums are shooting them down in flames, calling them whiny and complaining etc?

I honestly would ask – if the tables were turned, how would things be?

Kana.6793:

People have been asking them to do something about the ever increasing cost of precursors. Now they have.

Instead of complaining, go buy your half price precursor and be glad you saved 150g over last weeks prices.

(No, I didn’t get one in the chest. Yes, I am working towards a legendary.)

Half priced? …better go buy me that precursor!
No wait, I’ll go buy a couple, one for each of my alts.

Hmmm… prices are rising faster than I can type.
Guess the plan didn’t work.

Midnight.9205:

glacialphoenix.3160:

I agree that making one-time events repeat for 24h would not expunge all the complaining because nothing ever does.

But when you’re talking about missing events: it’s one thing to opt to miss an event that you could make, and another to be completely unable to attend a once-off event because of your timezone. 12 noon PST is pretty much a horrible timing if you’re in Asia or Oceania.

Nobody should expect to be able to attend all events, because other things crop up and take precedence – but nobody should be expecting to automatically miss out on all the events due to timezone, either. (Which is what will happen if one-time events keep getting released at 12 noon PST Sunday.)

^^ This x <insert number>

I don’t see too many folks in the timezones affected by the 12 noon PST time frame demanding that they get things scheduled to only suit them.

I see them asking that the concept of “one time” events be worked to include them.

Y’know – really, all they’re asking for is an equal opportunity to attend than is given to other time zones? And yet folks here on the forums are shooting them down in flames, calling them whiny and complaining etc?

I honestly would ask – if the tables were turned, how would things be?

Oh don’t get me wrong here, I’m not against making one time events more accessible. I’m also not against people campaigning for such things. For instance, Oceanic servers.

What I am against is people, after having ample notification that an event would run once, and what exact time it would run, showing up and simply whining about it and demanding it be fixed for them, right now

Not “can we look in to something a bit more friendly for future events” or “maybe in the future we can schedule these on server timezones” but rather “I COULD NOT SHOW UP, SO I AM ANGRY AND YOU SHOULD APPEASE ME BECAUSE I PAID FOR THIS GAME AND I DESERVE STUFF”

There are valid concerns about one time events. Personally I’d like it if these sorts of things were never announced ahead of time and happened more frequently. I’d be just as happy to hear that I missed the epic karka battle that just spontaneously happened one time as I would to spontaneously recieve that ingame mail while I was just out killing risen.

The fact that everything was scheduled so meticulously and people that were unable to attend are often just seething at their inability to do so baffles me. That’s all.

PopeUrban.2578

The fact that everything was scheduled so meticulously and people that were unable to attend are often just seething at their inability to do so baffles me.

Well, yes. They did announce the kick-off time, and everything, to give them credit. I knew from the moment the announcement was made that I wasn’t going to be able to make the finale event thanks to my timezone, and it was pretty disappointing for me.

I think a lot of people are seething because not only was it a one-time event that wasn’t accessible to a great number of people, it was a one-time event that awarded supremely good loot in comparison to what they would normally get. I’m hearing tales of people pulling two precursors from the chest, and people generally getting three exotic pieces from the chest – which is far better loot than most dungeon chests will ever offer you.

Obviously the most harped upon will be the precursors, but even without that, it’s still a pretty big blow to people who couldn’t make it, many of whom were already upset about not getting to attend it in the first place.

And that’s not including people who did manage to make the event but were d/ced out, or people who made the effort to get up early for the event but had to leave due to IRL commitments… in other words, people who made the effort to be part of the event, who contributed to others being able to get the loot, but were themselves unable to get the loot.

I agree, especially seeing as so many people couldn’t participate or wwere booted while participating [myself included].

First let me state I am one of the lucky few: I got a Dusk, turned arround and sold it for 100g (shoulda waited till price went back up but hindsights 20/20 and all)

Now let me state I agree with the original poster, RNG drops have no place in a good “western” MMO and need to go the way of shared loot, rolling on drops, and the dinosaur in general.

When all is said and done, i think the precursor drop chance from the chest was probably accidentally WAY high. Like someone ment to make it a 0.5% chance but messed their decimals up and in the code put a 0.5 instead of a 0.005 making it a 50% chance or so per exotic.

I needed to buy my dawn long long hours into it.. but hey some guy with an trial account got it from the chest. 3 hours play for him, 600+ hours for me

But what can you do right?

PopeUrban.2578:

The fact that everything was scheduled so meticulously and people that were unable to attend are often just seething at their inability to do so baffles me. That’s all.

no amount of “meticulous planning” can provide a workaround for people like me who were unable to login for a period of several hours during the event.

the game login server, the forum login and the support login were all down for me.

i would have liked to attend, but through no fault of my own i just couldnt.

I couldn’t care less about precursors but what disappointed me is that my total loot from 3 hours netted me a bit over 2g while others get over 100g.
I’m mildly upset about staying until 1am for only so much.

glacialphoenix.3160:

PopeUrban.2578

The fact that everything was scheduled so meticulously and people that were unable to attend are often just seething at their inability to do so baffles me.

Well, yes. They did announce the kick-off time, and everything, so we’re in agreement on that. I knew from the moment the announcement was made that I wasn’t going to be able to make the finale event thanks to my timezone, and it was pretty disappointing for me.

I think a lot of people are seething because not only was it a one-time event that wasn’t accessible to a great number of people, it was a one-time event that awarded supremely good loot in comparison to what they would normally get. I’m hearing tales of people pulling two precursors from the chest, and people generally getting three exotic pieces from the chest – which is far better loot than most dungeon chests will ever offer you.

Obviously the most harped upon will be the precursors, but even without that, it’s still a pretty big blow to people who couldn’t make it, many of whom were already upset about not getting to attend it in the first place.

And that’s not including people who did manage to make the event but were d/ced out, or people who made the effort to get up early for the event but had to leave due to IRL commitments… in other words, people who made the effort to be part of the event, who contributed to others being able to get the loot, but were themselves unable to get the loot.

As I stated before, people who fell afoul of technical problems are completely validated in their frustration. Not getting a reward for something you actually did is pretty crappy and I’m happy to hear that those people will be compensated somehow.

The loot itself felt very equal to the task. Sure, some people figured out you only needed to show up at the end and server hopped for multiple drops, but in general the time and effort I personally spent on this event felt in line with the reward compared to spending a similar amount of time in a level 1 fractal. Our little group was honestly surprised at the contents of that chest, and was thankful that even our lower level members got some nice stuff for coming along.

I think the biggest problem, which should probably be addressed in future events, was the ability to reap the rewards without doing any of the work. Our map saw two or three complete zerg wipes, and a very tense situation in the last leg where only five players survived near the end (Okay, so I was one of those five, that felt good) and heroically rezzed the rest of the zerg under constant hatchling fire (That felt seriously good) We battled annoyingly long waves of very tough mobs, and there was a lot of dying in that time span, moreso than I’ve seen in orr or any instance in a long time.

I feel that the reward was, in general, in line with the risk for players that were around for the majority of the event. For those of you who swooped in and just clicked chests, yeah, that shouldn’t have been possible, but congratulations on quickly responding to a profitable opportunity.

In terms of exotic drops versus potential for grisly and horrifying death and time spent, a solid fractal run running the same amount of time has similar potential for gain in slightly more time with slightly less risk of repair bills. The risk/reward was in line, what wasn’t in line was the potential to completely avoid the risk.

Does that mean people should have their shinies revoked? No. However it should be looked at and addressed for the next such event.

I’m not mad that some people got precursors, I’m mad that I spent two and a half hours fighting and didn’t get -anything.-

arena net are trying to make precursors availiable to more players i.e casuals who dont have the days spend farming to get the money for precursor … imo i think this is good option pre cursurs dropped 200 gold + in the last week

Afked for the whole event and only looted the chest, got dusk, is this fair? This game is becoming more and more about RNG, just look at fractals.

dazzazoo.6820:

arena net are trying to make precursors availiable to more players i.e casuals who dont have the days spend farming to get the money for precursor … imo i think this is good option pre cursurs dropped 200 gold + in the last week

Catering to casuals never work out. They don’t keep their attention for long and the money dries up, look what happened to Zynga. The hardcore player wouldn’t want to work for something a casual just gets, casuals don’t stick around very long. So you end up with a dead game. Business models like this can only milk people then go bust.

Precursors will remain precursers for most people that get them, though. That’s the point. Legendary weapons are still INCREDIBLY out of the question for casuals even with a guaranteed precursor. What the guaranteed precursor would have given is a fair reward across the board for everyone which they could keep/use/sell/craft into legendary.

The other materials for legendaries aren’t hard to get anymore. I farmed over 700,000 karma before ANet added in jugs of karma, now I have too much karma and everyone who didn’t farm at all already has enough to craft their legendary. Fact is, the legendary combines are all incredibly bland concepts with no lore or history behind any of it. It’s boring. And then to top it off, people who don’t put in the effort are completing them simply via RNG.

It’s a load of bull. RNG isn’t fun and it never will be. No one likes RNG.

Scavenger hunt for a precursor. Amazing idea.

Rewarding some players hundreds of times more for the same ecfort with zero risk involved. Amazing horrible idea.

Jiminy.8340:

The percentage does not matter. It could be 1%, but the fact remains, a one time event that left a large chunk of the world at a disadvantage, allowed others to get those items via the 1% RNG factor.

I would guess in a dungeon or a world boss chest, there would be two treasure tables. One used to determine level/type of item and the other to determine the item. It seems in Lost Shores, the first treasure table was done away with and everyone automatically got exotics (which then allowed the 1% precursor win factor).

Not good planning on Anet’s behalf really.

You must be new to MMOs.

I totally agree with the OP
I was participating and I got my exotics and rares and the box, which is already a huge profit for an event, tough it took 3 hours.
But then I see people, who just came by, hitting the last 10 minutes of teh karka and get 2 Precursors.
Seriously, WTF … I worked hard in every phase to kill this beast and I get what a 20 slot box and 2 gold, this is amazing.
But someone came to hit the Karke for 10 minutes, not even and got what … 2 Precursors (1 Dusk, so he will make about 150g) plus the 20 slot box.
This has nothing to do with envy, just with giving some people free reign of gold for which the others have to farm a lot. (150 isnt farmed in a week…)

There has been discussion ongoing (on the forums) on about the randomness for items, especially (but not only) if it comes to Legendary items and the precursor.

It is a bit like going to the casino where you can win an item. Luck is the most important (or in GW2 putting in money will work too) while most people rather have a more certain way to get items.

Do A + B + C +D and you get (in this case) the precursor. Do E + F + G + H to get the other items, put them in the mystic forge and get the Legendary. In this case A + B + C + D may be extremely hard (because a legendary has to stay a legendary) but at least you know doing A + B + C + D will give the precursor.

I do not really mind rewarding the big event good, then again what is good (the bag was great the other legendary / rare maybe worth one gold) including giving a change for the precursor but it did exact the opposite from what I just explained. It kept the randomness but still so many people got a precursor that a legendary is not really a ‘legendary’ anymore.

In another threat I already did a suggestion about a way to structure or earn legendary in a better (A + B + C ) way but still letting it be a legendary.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Doing-extremely-hard-activities-to-get-earn-epic-items/first#post724951

But like I said in my last post of that threat. ArenaNet has said that they indeed will implement this. See: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/
“We also have plans to add more fun ways to acquire Legendary precursor items with a more “scavenger hunt” feel than they are acquired currently.” so we should be seeing this very soon.

It was maybe a better idea to have implemented that first in stead of doing the random drop for the big events, doing exactly that what a lot of players where already complaining about and making the legendary less legendary but at least that way the big event (it was to big / long because the “reinforcement part” was boring because it was the same the whole time.. the rest was all fun) did reward some players for there work. If it did not reward good people would (justly) be complaining about that.

I rather had seen that it next to the bag also dropped an one time mini and title or something. Then again.. that would not be fair for people who would not be able to participate (because of personal things), then you should at least have one week time of completing it in stead of one event.

So it is very complicated but I hope they implement there promised “ fun ways to acquire Legendary precursor items” soon and will then also include new legendary weapons that are still truly legendary. (including a long-bow because that is what I am going for).

It is fine having a dungeons give random loot, but a massive one time event that takes several hours to complete is another matter entirely. Everyone deserved equal reward for the effort it took, the reward system for such events needs to be better balanced for the future.

Aedelric.1287:

It is fine having a dungeons give random loot, but a massive one time event that takes several hours to complete is another matter entirely. Everyone deserved equal reward for the effort it took, the reward system for such events needs to be better balanced for the future.

It’s not so much the length of the event (how about if they make a extremely big dungeon:) but it it comes to specific items you ‘need’ for something when people do not like random drops. Of course there should be random drops in normal dungeons but dungeons also has armor and you get a x number tokens for every run, I would prefer the items dropping them self, first run item 1, second run item 2, but nevertheless you now have a specific way to get that armor set and not just some randomness. However the precursor is such an ‘specific item’ but has randomness. That it why people are complaining.

Arklain.6429:

Messing up the market? By adding more of the item to the market, thus lowering the price and making them more easily obtainable? Tell me who doesn’t know anything about economics again?

You apparently.

Pointing out a simple rule of economics does not make his argument moot. Making precursors is a difficult thing requiring wast resources and time….that is where the price comes from, THAT is why it is so expensive.

Artificially adding these components at random to players that did not make the effort, has disrupted the market…even though the result could be lower prices (which is welcomed and good in the long run I am not arguing that, but its disrupting the actual economy by artificially influencing it) it was an interference into the player created market.

Imagine this…you make an investment into a company that costs you millions of £$€, and you will be one of very few…enabling you to set your price so that you can get your investment back and make a profit, which is the main point of doing business…but once you do invest your money and time…the government comes in and hands out machines/materials for free, materials machines that you invested in, giving your competitors an unfair advantage and resulting a lower price therefore you might not be able to ge your investment back, your money’s worth…and vuala … artificial economy disruption.

There…economics 101 has ended.

Thats called “Lotto”. I didn’t get a precursor, I’m trying for a while. I can’t be mad at people who got it and I can’t understand why people get mad at all. Legendaries and basicaly anything that needs “Heavy grind” is just to make you look prettier. You won’t die more often or be in a disadvantage compared to anyone else if you don’t walk around Tyria shooting rainbows or leaving sunshine trails.

RNG might look sucky, but its how things works in many situations, including real life. Some people will win shiny-stuff just because they were lucky and most of other people will not. The chest had higher chances for “Exotic” quality, be that a precursor, something players could craft or just one of those nice skins, it is the same quality of item.

Zemuron.1052:

Thats called “Lotto”. I didn’t get a precursor, I’m trying for a while. I can’t be mad at people who got it and I can’t understand why people get mad at all. Legendaries and basicaly anything that needs “Heavy grind” is just to make you look prettier. You won’t die more often or be in a disadvantage compared to anyone else if you don’t walk around Tyria shooting rainbows or leaving sunshine trails.

RNG might look sucky, but its how things works in many situations, including real life. Some people will win shiny-stuff just because they were lucky and most of other people will not. The chest had higher chances for “Exotic” quality, be that a precursor, something players could craft or just one of those nice skins, it is the same quality of item.

I think you mist the whole point where people were already complaining about the ‘lotto’ idea. That is what they did not like. Then ArenaNet said there would come a more fun way to get precursor weapons (so ‘a way’ no ‘lotto’) and then they introduced this lotto. The new fun way will still be implemented but knowing that people already where complaining about it makes it strange that ArenaNet now did this. Just let’s hope that this new fun way will be implemented soon.

I don’t see how anyone is trying to justify event like this. Really? This was probably the worst thing ArenaNet has done this far (hats off, up to now I been quite pleased with these guys). This is the first time I post on forum, to let you know that this is not OK.

What happened of Anet policy of trying not to hurt certain time zones? You can just make 3 hour event that drops hundreds of the most valuable items in the game. I for one wasn’t home during it.
It’s really simple, you either:

1) Make event last 24h so everyone has a chance to participate
2) Keep reward quality moderate, like in Halloween event where best prizes were few gold worth.

I have seen no valid point yet from anyone here defending this. All that talk about odds and lotto doesnt apply when you are not even given chance to participate in it!

Hunny Bunny.3506:

I don’t see how anyone is trying to justify event like this. Really? This was probably the worst thing ArenaNet has done this far (hats off, up to now I been quite pleased with these guys). This is the first time I post on forum, to let you know that this is not OK.

What happened of Anet policy of trying not to hurt certain time zones? You can just make 3 hour event that drops hundreds of the most valuable items in the game. I for one wasn’t home during it.
It’s really simple, you either:

1) Make event last 24h so everyone has a chance to participate
2) Keep reward quality moderate, like in Halloween event where best prizes were few gold worth.

I have seen no valid point yet from anyone here defending this. All that talk about odds and lotto doesnt apply when you are not even given chance to participate in it!

Like I mentioned in my first post here. A week (maybe 2) would be better. 24H might solve the time-zone problem but still there is a big chance a lot of people can not make it and everybody who wants to should be able to.

I can’t even read all of this post. Just sounds like everybody is mad that they didn’t get a precursor. I didn’t either. Neither did anybody i know. It happens. It’s not like you paid them for gems to open that chest and got screwed, you played a game and didn’t get a drop. Big whoop.

Stop making up % numbers that you have no proof of. saying it’s a 25% or 50% drop rate is ridiculous. I bet the % was the same as Claw of Jormag, only difference is that this event had way more people at it. So the % seems higher

Everyone got 1 Named Weapon. Precursor’s are named weapons so they were in the package. Some named weapons are really expensive too, last time I checked, Aether, my dreamed Shortbow was 500 gold (way more than any legendary btw). I wasn’t lucky, but hey, it was gold I didn’t have before and the 20 slot box came really handy, so thanks A-Net.

I got Usoku’s Needle (same skin as precursor Spark), price was around 2 gold but lately it’s rising to around 4 gold. That’s 4 gold I didn’t have, and I’m happy some people got their precursors, I guess that will make everything cheaper with less demand.

>People whine about having to grind forever to get money for precursors
>Chest gives people precursors
>Lots more precursors in the market
>Takes a lot less money to get money for precursors at a lower price
>Those same people are whining about others getting precursors when it directly makes it so they have to grind less money to get them

kitten this forum. Self entitled kittens crying cause they didn’t get a lucky drop. Oh, you had to grind Cursed Shore for 3 months for gold and precursors, but didn’t get them? And then get mad because the prices of almost ALL precursors gets cut in half? kittening gamer logic, dude. Not everyone who got a precursor is going for that class of legendary. Not everyone who got a precursor even is GOING for a legendary. = They sell it. Why should you care if they got lucky and get an extra bit of gold? They’re making it so your precursor prices go down for the people who WANT legendaries. Do you guys cry when people win the lottery, too?

“WAH Someone got lucky and didn’t work as hard as I did to get it! WAH I’m so miserable that I want everyone else to be miserable too! WAH I want it and I didn’t get it!”

I’d be HAPPY for my guild members if they were lucky enough to get precursors. And I’d be happy if my trial members got precursors and good loot too. (Not that I even believe Trials can get precursors: None of the accounts I opened the box with got loot more than 5 levels greater than them, Ancient Shell aside.)

As someone who’s farming Cursed Shore and other stuff, herself, and who didn’t get a precursor, and helped ferry tons of people to obscure overflows so they could get rewards, and who spent all night trying to get my girlfriend a chance to open the chest, I can honestly say that I don’t give a single kitten if someone else got a precursor. Just because it takes long for me doesn’t mean I want it to take long for other people.

Seriously, kitten this forum. I’m sorry, I know the event was kind of inconvenient. I wish they would have made it more accessible to people, but I in no way support this “Baw baw I didn’t get something that someone else did.”

Know what’d be kittening worse than SOME people getting precursors? Either NOBODY or EVERYBODY getting precursors. If Nobody, everyone would still be grinding forever for gold. If Everybody, they would be so severely devalued.

Jesus Christ I’m disappointed every time I look at these forums.