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Posted by: Pryda.8257

Pryda.8257

Thanks for fights INC and FURY

Red Guard [RG]

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Posted by: Zumy.6318

Zumy.6318

Ty you [DIRE] for the very nice duels at the Vizunah mill! I enjoyed it very much and had a blast!

Sorry TDS thief for stomping, but when u attacked me without warning with P/D and used D/P for chainstealthing and refuge for resetting three times I just couldnt help it.

:-)

Thief | Zumy [Buka]
Legendary counter: Twilight, Bolt, Incinerator, Incinerator Nr. 2, Meteorlogicus, The Dreamer

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Posted by: Kingface.9781

Kingface.9781

Nice roaming around ruins after tonight’s raid-offs on GH map.

Ouch! There are a lot of thieves on Kodash.

Cheers to the 3 [ASAP] ones. You are a lil’ crispy but it was fun to fight you.

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Posted by: hihey.1075

hihey.1075

Cheers to the 3 [ASAP] ones. You are a lil’ crispy but it was fun to fight you.

I think I’ve met them too. Had a really nice 3 way fight last Saturday:
me vs 2 of them vs 2 Vizunah Warriors
It was soo fun, we even /bow-ed after killing the 2 Vizus

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Posted by: Dustep.3127

Dustep.3127

Hi there.

TeamPsy [Psy] is looking for some GvG (5v5 to 8v8).

Stepa – Human Guardian
Steppa – Asura Ele
[Psy]

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Posted by: Moon.6371

Moon.6371

[Psy] has some of the saddest perplexity roamers I`ve seen for a while… you guys just love to abuse the meta or is this still the cool thing to do on Gunnars?

“I can stack 20 stacks of confusion on my target for like … forever, im so strong and such a good player, too!”

Apart from that, nice roaming action this week, very fun and challenging!

Best regards

[Buka] Koma Grey
[Buka] Mojo Monkey Man
Kodash

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Posted by: Chabo.7498

Chabo.7498

I’m pretty sure I have seen Buka roaming around with perplexity runes themselves. Pretty unfair to callout another guild when some of your members use it too..

Roaming/Raid Mesmer

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Posted by: Zumy.6318

Zumy.6318

I tested them for 30 minutes yesterday and apologized to my opponents and swapped them out again. I felt pretty bad about using them, even if it was without pistol offhand and with only one interrupt on a 20s CD.
This rune is jut so wrong.
But yes, there are bukas that use them. No warriors and no engis though. I think one mesmer uses them for soloroaming at times.

BTW: There are two different [Psy] guilds out there on GH.

Thief | Zumy [Buka]
Legendary counter: Twilight, Bolt, Incinerator, Incinerator Nr. 2, Meteorlogicus, The Dreamer

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Posted by: Coarr.3286

Coarr.3286

nice matchup so far. keep the spirit up. tonight will be interesting with all kodash ppl doing pve

[care] Coarr Ix – Ranger
Kodash
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Posted by: Sceinna.3561

Sceinna.3561

[Psy] has some of the saddest perplexity roamers I`ve seen for a while… you guys just love to abuse the meta or is this still the cool thing to do on Gunnars?

“I can stack 20 stacks of confusion on my target for like … forever, im so strong and such a good player, too!”

Apart from that, nice roaming action this week, very fun and challenging!

Best regards

A lot of players use these runes dude.. I’m fighting them everyday. Especially if it’s an engi.. they can insta stack you with 20 stacks of confusion, if you don’t have the reflex to get the hell out without touching any skill you instantly die.

I’ve fought many Kodash thieves using this and being very trigger happy with “Headshot”.. sad part is I’ve had this discussion with people claiming Engi is finally “somewhat decent” with Perplexity while they were already one of the strongest, if not strongest roaming classes. With perplexity it’s just insane.. but any build that has some sort of a stun/condition damage… gg :/

There will be thousands of people complaining when Perplexity gets nerfed, I guess they don’t mind their 20 stacks of confusion ofc.

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Posted by: Nubu.6148

Nubu.6148

Perplexity gets nerfed today.

Nubú -Engie -Asura-
BNF-Bitte nicht füttern-
Smallscale <3 !

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Posted by: Moon.6371

Moon.6371

Nah, it`s ok, to be honest it was my fault engaging into engi + thief (perplex), and I could cleanse, dodge and tranfser all I wanted, but I never ended up with less than 10 stacks during the fight.

It just seems so overly common these days again, but maybe it`s me being unlucky…

Good luck & have fun

P.S.: Apologies little asura P/D perplexity thief from [Psy] for the rant, hit me up for 1on1 anytime.

[Buka] Koma Grey
[Buka] Mojo Monkey Man
Kodash

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Posted by: Zumy.6318

Zumy.6318

I tested it duelling without permastun (no X/P) yesterday for around 30 min (maybe 31). An ICD on the 6th bonus will not be a nerf but a little toning down.
The effect of constant 8 stacks was devastating with my P/D build. With the torment, the interrupt on steal and confusion the 10 bleedstacks just felt like a bonus.

Thief | Zumy [Buka]
Legendary counter: Twilight, Bolt, Incinerator, Incinerator Nr. 2, Meteorlogicus, The Dreamer

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Posted by: UntimelyM.7860

UntimelyM.7860

Thanks for the duels last night Zumy, was good fun! I’ll try and make it to your dueling session on Thursday night if I can too.

Also, sorry about this morning Moon – I immediately said after we’d fought you that I felt bad 2v1ing you. The next time we saw you on our way up north we just left you alone to your roaming.

IMO perplexity needs toning down a bit thats all, maybe 2 stacks per interrupt rather than an ICD.

Edit: also I’m not running perplexity on my engi, just in case anyone jumped to that conclusion

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Posted by: Neil.6138

Neil.6138

The Frenzied Few are looking for GvGs to be had, to learn some lessons.
– Vid: Lessons

My PVP videos
Staff Ele Organised WvW Guide
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Posted by: Genotix.6804

Genotix.6804

@Vizunah
Seriously guys. We are outmanned everywhere and you have to use acs to defend the towers we try to take using the events?
You have to bring 40 people to prevent loosing a camp?
Why don’t you try to have some fun and leave the usual t1 playstyle?

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Posted by: Kingface.9781

Kingface.9781

@Vizunah
Seriously guys. We are outmanned everywhere and you have to use acs to defend the towers we try to take using the events?
You have to bring 40 people to prevent loosing a camp?
Why don’t you try to have some fun and leave the usual t1 playstyle?

They are on training for the league. And it’s a good thing.

Anyway, if you’re just a few, go roam! Who care about a tower…

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Posted by: Noss.4105

Noss.4105

Perplexity gets nerfed today.

Source?!
God I hope they nerf them properly.

By properly, I mean with a huge hammer.

N*** Dew Gunnar’s Hold
WvW Roaming with Mesmer

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Posted by: Genotix.6804

Genotix.6804

@Vizunah
Seriously guys. We are outmanned everywhere and you have to use acs to defend the towers we try to take using the events?
You have to bring 40 people to prevent loosing a camp?
Why don’t you try to have some fun and leave the usual t1 playstyle?

They are on training for the league. And it’s a good thing.

Anyway, if you’re just a few, go roam! Who care about a tower…

Obviously they do:)

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Posted by: Shadow.9641

Shadow.9641

True, 60-80 hiding in our Spawntower on their BL, when arround 40 of us are in front of the tower.
Since Reset I thought Vizu did a little, mini-winni, Change, but yesterday they proved that this was wrong.

But we had nice outmanned fights (1:1.5 or 1:2) against MoS arround and inside bay yesterday, some wipes for us and some for them

Big Heimdal
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Posted by: Zumy.6318

Zumy.6318

We were having nice roaming and duelling chit chat here. Please vent your sadness about a server bringing his players to WvW somewhere else.
Not everybody is an openfielder and this is a casual game. If you only find 80+ groups, you are looking at the wrong spots.
If you expect to attack a crucial structure like hills or bay and Vizunah will only bring even numbers, then you should know that this will not work. Everybody wants to participate in WvW and Vizunahs everybody is just severly bigger than our everybody.
Blame ANet, not Vizunah. Or just learn to adapt. Vizunah is a great opponent if you dont try to get their ppt.

Nice week so far Vizu! Glad to see you have more and more roamers every matchup we meet. Keep it going!

Thief | Zumy [Buka]
Legendary counter: Twilight, Bolt, Incinerator, Incinerator Nr. 2, Meteorlogicus, The Dreamer

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Posted by: dominik.9721

dominik.9721

If anet won`t nerf some skills soon, I will stop duelling and roaming. It`s so ridiculous, everytime I met people who are up for duells, they are spirit rangers, condition phantasm mesmers with PU, condition warriors with healing sigend or perplexitiy-trolls.
Afterwards they are surprised, wherfore I don`t want to duell these guys.

Grimkram [sS]

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Posted by: Zumy.6318

Zumy.6318

Had 7 sparring partners yesterday and none of the earlier was involved besides one perplexity engi.
Wasn’t too gamebreaking though.

A pretty good engineer told me yesterday: “Perplexity made me get sloppy.”
I guess this is true for everybody who uses them and is a great weakness.

PU Phants or Signet Warriors will get /laugh after 2 minutes of duelling. If they die I will stomp them. Who relies on completely passive AI/Regen/Boons sould not expect me to count it as a duel.
Duels imply that both actually could die.

Thief | Zumy [Buka]
Legendary counter: Twilight, Bolt, Incinerator, Incinerator Nr. 2, Meteorlogicus, The Dreamer

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Posted by: Shadow.9641

Shadow.9641

Zumy, mate, I don´t whine about “defending” a structure, defending it with the best possible force is absolutely understandable – the way of defending is what I can´t understand (but this doesn´t take me to complaining, whining, …)

It´s really not understandable for me (and that hits not only Vizu), that a clearly stronger force hides in a tower/camp/siege and doesn´t make a push to prevent the enemy to build a critical force for the own forces .
I personally can´t see a strategic or tactic reason for this – but maybe I´m just to nearsighted

Fighting outmanned is also not a problem, it´s a challenge “evil grin”

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Posted by: Zumy.6318

Zumy.6318

Did you read Sun Tzu?
Why should 50 pugs that know they would die in your coordinated meleetrain in few seconds come play outside?
That would be tupid.

Also I wrote venting, not whining and wasn’t reffering to you in particular.

Thief | Zumy [Buka]
Legendary counter: Twilight, Bolt, Incinerator, Incinerator Nr. 2, Meteorlogicus, The Dreamer

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Posted by: Genotix.6804

Genotix.6804

Did you read Sun Tzu?
Why should 50 pugs that know they would die in your coordinated meleetrain in few seconds come play outside?
That would be tupid.

Also I wrote venting, not whining and wasn’t reffering to you in particular.

You obviously don’t understand what he and some others are trying to say and you don’t have to really

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Posted by: Shadow.9641

Shadow.9641

Sun Tzu not, but some others, with opposite methaphors (maybe take a look at “Hagakure”)

Venting is often wrong compared to whining, but who cares, counting peas or letters arround a game doesn´t really make sence, it only costs time and fun.
So if the post wasn´t adressed to me, we should take a glass of something cooled tonight in TS “yummy-n-cheers”

Big Heimdal
Pikeneer

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Posted by: Zumy.6318

Zumy.6318

Obviously you/he have a point and I could not agree more with it.
But also this is not about honour or something, this is a casual PvP-ish zergmode. It is not fun for casuals to get farmed by paintrains even if the casuals outnumber 2vs1.
If they know they cannot openfieldly beat a GvG superherogang, why should they bother?

The casual Zergling world is about WxP, Karma, Bags of Loot, Sieges with 100 friends and above everything doing this with the least effort.
I don’t like it, but I respect it.
There are other things I dont like. I learned to respect them too.

People should just try to get the best out of this. Leave the Vizu primetimezergs alone if you cant stand them running into towers.
For what I have seen massive openfield battles happened on Viz border on Saturday night. And I am sure it will happen again.

I just cba to read the blatant “we roam 20-35 ‘smallscale-guildgroup’ and only meet 80+ blobs, where is ypur pride?” To me those groups are clueless zerglings as much as the 80+ blobs are. But I made my peace with it and just want everybody to enjoy this game the best way he can.
This is called tolerance.

Thief | Zumy [Buka]
Legendary counter: Twilight, Bolt, Incinerator, Incinerator Nr. 2, Meteorlogicus, The Dreamer

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Posted by: Kingface.9781

Kingface.9781

Thanks [PRXM] for the duels in front of your spawn tower. Was a blast.

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Posted by: Monkeymonger.9235

Monkeymonger.9235

I’d like to add that vizunah pugs are of very high quality. I haven’t seen many true zergs, but mostly open raids. Even the eb zerg moves better and is more disciplined than a lot of guilds.

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Posted by: Genotix.6804

Genotix.6804

@Zumy You are right about what you said no argue here.

But sitting with 40 people inside a tower using acs to kill the 10 that are attacking it is completely different.
I never whined about Vizunah, i even said they are much better and much more respectfull than the so called guild servers.
Also i am not talking about prime time, i couldn’t care less about prime time zergs, but offpeak where i usually play.

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Posted by: Shadow.9641

Shadow.9641

meh , ye, saturday was awesome just-for-fun zerging arround! Thinkin´ of it, brings the sunday-morning-headake back
How did you do on Sunday, Zumy?

Tolerance and Respect are things, that, sadly, not often take place in mmo´s, sad but true.

EDIT:
agree, that Vizu overall got better than arround 8 weeks before, change takes time and sometimes gets a little backbeat, but I think Vizu sells its skinns under the price (not only in the sight of a guild based gamer, also in the sight of a lucky former more or less pug)

Big Heimdal
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Posted by: Troma.3250

Troma.3250

Waow. It’s good to see an open-minded guy from other server like this, Zumy. You understood very well the work and training we have to do for the league of course we understand it can be frustrating for you. But with the current SFR monster, we have to be ready.

For this, i worked all the week end with a little GC team, and i have the pleasure to show it to you:

http://www.appelauxarmes.fr ! (means Call to arms in french)

I know it require Google trad for you (and Google trad break a little the layout), but you should check it, for the ambiance and epic sound (put the volume on)

Heya !

co-founder of Grand Cross Alliance
General of Grand Cross Knights [GCK]
www.grandcross.fr/codex-gck

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Posted by: Zumy.6318

Zumy.6318

Great website. Good luck in our common league. You deserve it more than SFR.

Thief | Zumy [Buka]
Legendary counter: Twilight, Bolt, Incinerator, Incinerator Nr. 2, Meteorlogicus, The Dreamer

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Posted by: Shadow.9641

Shadow.9641

Grats according to the site, looks awesome!

Hehe, “SFR-Monster” sounds great, made me laugh!

All the best for your training and practicing, I think Vizu is on a good way, to “satisfy” all kind of enemie-playstyles and to avoid the weekly, sooo boring complaining

Big Heimdal
Pikeneer

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Posted by: hihey.1075

hihey.1075

To answer someone’s question, yes: there are 2 [Psy] guilds in GH. One is “Team Psy”, the other being “Order of Intoxication”. Both have really great roamers though.
And I agree with Zumy on the PU/Signet matter: being almost impossible to kill even WHILE dueling is a bit too much(a D/P cannot be killed because he resets the fight, and that is silly but at least you could say that you outplayed him).

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Posted by: Empyre.2531

Empyre.2531

Waow. It’s good to see an open-minded guy from other server like this, Zumy. You understood very well the work and training we have to do for the league of course we understand it can be frustrating for you. But with the current SFR monster, we have to be ready.

For this, i worked all the week end with a little GC team, and i have the pleasure to show it to you:

http://www.appelauxarmes.fr ! (means Call to arms in french)

I know it require Google trad for you (and Google trad break a little the layout), but you should check it, for the ambiance and epic sound (put the volume on)

Heya !

“Si tu peux jouer la nuit tu le feras.” (tl;don’t speak french: you must nightcap)
“Pour la victoire le score tu joueras.” (tl;don’t speak french: you must play for points)
“Comme équipement Pui/Robu/Vita tu choisiras.” (tl;don’t speak french: you must use pvt gear)

Man, if I didn’t know you are serious that page would be an epic troll on every player in the game.

Wouldn’t it make more sense to train fights on equal numbers rather than blob the other side? Because when the day comes SFR will field equal numbers to yours.

[RG]

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Posted by: Tygra.4570

Tygra.4570

Just stop trying to translate french please. I’ve told you already, there are small variations you probably don’t grasp.

In this case, you can’t translate by “you must”. It’s more “you should”. And this website is made for the newcomers that will try WvW with the new achievements, not for experienced players like you.

Cheers

The French Flair [FF]

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Posted by: Zumy.6318

Zumy.6318

feras, joueras and choisiras are not imperative but indicatif future. Therefore it is an annoucement of what will be done.

If you can play at night, you will do it.
For victory you will play the score.
As equippment you will choose PVT.

Its a shout out for committment. Nothing bad about it.
Nice try to derail it with obviously not so good french skills.

Thief | Zumy [Buka]
Legendary counter: Twilight, Bolt, Incinerator, Incinerator Nr. 2, Meteorlogicus, The Dreamer

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Posted by: Empyre.2531

Empyre.2531

“Les 10 Commandements du Vizunien efficace”

http://www.linternaute.com/dictionnaire/fr/definition/commandement/

Please guys, if you want it like that.

/EDIT:

To make it clear what the french dictionary says: Commandement = order, so the following orders leave no room for interpretation of being “a shout out for commitment”, they are something expected by the webside creator. Please zumy, versuchs besser.

[RG]

(edited by Empyre.2531)

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Posted by: Wolfheart.1938

Wolfheart.1938

That site is impressive and really well made!

The necromancer build on the other hand…Kingface’s doing?

“We have no first-person view because stupid people would lock into it”
“You can’t have more than 10 HS decks because that would confuse people”
“30 fps is more cinematic”

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Posted by: Kingface.9781

Kingface.9781

That site is impressive and really well made!

The necromancer build on the other hand…Kingface’s doing?

Hahaha nice one.

Even with this build I’ll kick you kitten out dude.

For the others: To be clever, talking to Empyre, you will stop.

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Posted by: Empyre.2531

Empyre.2531

The unloved child of Viz, Kingface. Hola que tal?

[RG]

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Posted by: Kingface.9781

Kingface.9781

Better than you, as usual.

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Posted by: Troma.3250

Troma.3250

Thank’s Wolf !

for Empyre, like everything in 1 year, you troll and attack me, even if it’s hard work, you try to turn everything good to bad, i’m fed up with this. The only moment i saw you nice was after the fight with GCK versus Warforgis. This amount of hate is unbelievable. I don’t even mention you were here in the Vizunah meeting on TS, listening everything we do. Such an obsession…

Yes we will change necro build ! i didn’t remember who did it but it must be changed.

Thanks again for the nice words, i worked really hard.

co-founder of Grand Cross Alliance
General of Grand Cross Knights [GCK]
www.grandcross.fr/codex-gck

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Posted by: Empyre.2531

Empyre.2531

You mean when the Viz pug commander added onto the fight? Because they respect you so much even after you asked him to stay away?

[x] I turn everything good into bad.

[RG]

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Posted by: hihey.1075

hihey.1075

The mesmer build is… garbage? I’ll totally revise that.

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Posted by: Troma.3250

Troma.3250

hihey: some nice people made thoses builds for total beginners, but we will remake all them, after the patch

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General of Grand Cross Knights [GCK]
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Posted by: Wolfheart.1938

Wolfheart.1938

Woah that’s mean Kingface bro

Now I’m sad and will leave the thread. See you at the league Vizunian friends (and not), the fights will be epic.

P.s. Troma I make you builds you make me site, deal?

“We have no first-person view because stupid people would lock into it”
“You can’t have more than 10 HS decks because that would confuse people”
“30 fps is more cinematic”

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Posted by: Dustep.3127

Dustep.3127

[Psy] has some of the saddest perplexity roamers I`ve seen for a while… you guys just love to abuse the meta or is this still the cool thing to do on Gunnars?

“I can stack 20 stacks of confusion on my target for like … forever, im so strong and such a good player, too!”

Apart from that, nice roaming action this week, very fun and challenging!

Best regards

Hey, Im the thief you ‘re talking about and i’m the only one in the guild who runs with perplexity. I totally agree with you, just had to check from myself how that can be op.

Still looking for some GvG (5v5 to 8v8)

Regards.

And yeah there is another Guild called Psy that came on GH since like 1 month :/

Stepa – Human Guardian
Steppa – Asura Ele
[Psy]