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Posted by: SykkoB.9465

SykkoB.9465

Why does RK talk so much. ……..

RK has only defended their position on the forum. SoR and IRON in particular are provoking them.

Considering how much this Waage dude has been consistently flaming IRON, I don’t see why IRON shouldn’t challenge them and provoke them since they complained and accused IRON of blobbing hard and beating them with superior numbers. They claimed IRON wasn’t much if it wasn’t for their numbers. If you want to flame or taunt another guild, please be up for the GvG challenge. Don’t even try to give excuses to run away from it.

So you deny IRON blobs? To be perfectly honest, I don’t remember seeing IRON in small groups so I would agree with waage on that. Though, I wouldn’t assume they aren’t just as good in smaller numbers.

so complain about numbers but decline a even numbers fight

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Posted by: Tarkus.4109

Tarkus.4109

Why does RK talk so much. ……..

RK has only defended their position on the forum. SoR and IRON in particular are provoking them.

Considering how much this Waage dude has been consistently flaming IRON, I don’t see why IRON shouldn’t challenge them and provoke them since they complained and accused IRON of blobbing hard and beating them with superior numbers. They claimed IRON wasn’t much if it wasn’t for their numbers. If you want to flame or taunt another guild, please be up for the GvG challenge. Don’t even try to give excuses to run away from it.

So you deny IRON blobs? To be perfectly honest, I don’t remember seeing IRON in small groups so I would agree with waage on that. Though, I wouldn’t assume they aren’t just as good in smaller numbers.

Every guild “blobs” to a degree if you have any militia on each of the respective maps, so I don’t think there is any way not to unless you run tagless. I can see the benefit in running tagless, and we’ve done it ourselves on occasion when we have a good militia commander on ball to help keep militia on the map. If you are a respected commander and guild you will get server help regardless and you’d be an idiot to refuse help.

In regards to IRON being suboptimal in smaller numbers, when they run 10-15 man havoc in SEA or NA I find them not to be too bad. Its a funny thing that people seem to think that when you have a lot of numbers in primetime that the individual skill of the players must be low. Sometimes that’s true, sometimes its not – but in IRONs case I consider them one of the better pound for pound guilds in the match-up, its just a shame that when we tend to fight them them we run mostly militia float with a few guildees.

RK does a great job, and Waage does a lot for the server but a lot of the time they legitimately have less numbers and often are one of the few guilds that run in EU therefore its understandable that they don’t want to GvG as it would be almost guaranteed that early TW, SG or IRON commanders would golem rush all of BG’s keeps while they were GvG’ing.

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Posted by: gebrechen.5643

gebrechen.5643

Did IRON show up against RG? And can I have the youtube link. Just asking!

I love when people keep bringing this up for the guilds that lost to RG during those GvGs. So what does that make of the guilds that continuously get wiped day in and day out by these guilds that apparently are so bad? They are clearly worse by extension then, correct?

I just ask, because it’s so funny to read that “scared” against RK because they don’t want GvG. And the last thing I heard is that IRON didn’t like to GvG against RG when they were on JQ.
That’s a bit of a double standard.

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Posted by: SykkoB.9465

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could always set it up for a Friday when the match is pretty much done

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Posted by: ConradR.6940

ConradR.6940

Did IRON show up against RG? And can I have the youtube link. Just asking!

I love when people keep bringing this up for the guilds that lost to RG during those GvGs. So what does that make of the guilds that continuously get wiped day in and day out by these guilds that apparently are so bad? They are clearly worse by extension then, correct?

I just ask, because it’s so funny to read that “scared” against RK because they don’t want GvG. And the last thing I heard is that IRON didn’t like to GvG against RG when they were on JQ.
That’s a bit of a double standard.

You heard wrong, we loved the GvG against RG. It was so much fun.

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Posted by: gebrechen.5643

gebrechen.5643

Oh, my apologies then. But you still won’t get out RK if they don’t want imho.

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Posted by: Shifty.4985

Shifty.4985

Why no opposition in SM :’(

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Posted by: Ferris Bewler.9706

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Ok with all the RG talk I would like to interject that KnT has had the opportunity to fight them not GVG but open field on many occasions, on both of their visits to NA tier 1. Just because you don’t GVG them doesn’t mean tha your a crap guild. Believe me we have fought them more times than some of you have GVGed them. Matter of fact I think they have a video of about the nastiest 3 way fight you’ll ever see in GW 2 between us RG and VOTF in the dredge tunnel in EB. But just because we don’t GVG doesn’t mean that we didn’t seek out fights with them.

And another thing , for all the SOR players saying BGs NA is weak, it may no be our strongest time slot, but we have plenty of guilds in that time that you have a ton of trouble facing. So yeah we has a strong oceanic group but I’m tired of you saying BGs NA is crap. If hats the case then the rest of SORs guilds that don’t play prime time NA are also, well terrible. Even though that’s not true, that’s what SOR would have you believe about BGs NA. Get over yourselves.

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Posted by: Burl.9567

Burl.9567

Ok with all the RG talk I would like to interject that KnT has had the opportunity to fight them not GVG but open field on many occasions, on both of their visits to NA tier 1. Just because you don’t GVG them doesn’t mean tha your a crap guild. Believe me we have fought them more times than some of you have GVGed them. Matter of fact I think they have a video of about the nastiest 3 way fight you’ll ever see in GW 2 between us RG and VOTF in the dredge tunnel in EB. But just because we don’t GVG doesn’t mean that we didn’t seek out fights with them.

And another thing , for all the SOR players saying BGs NA is weak, it may no be our strongest time slot, but we have plenty of guilds in that time that you have a ton of trouble facing. So yeah we has a strong oceanic group but I’m tired of you saying BGs NA is crap. If hats the case then the rest of SORs guilds that don’t play prime time NA are also, well terrible. Even though that’s not true, that’s what SOR would have you believe about BGs NA. Get over yourselves.

The quality of NA (maybe other timezones as well) all around has been somewhat lack of late. The current meta right now is to throw numbers at a target until it finally falls. I think a few guilds are starting to distance themselves from this and quality of play is slowly improving. I’m starting to see more 25 mans either wipe or “handle” 50 man blobs as of late.

In terms of BG NA, some guilds have been really fickle as of late. After 1 or 2 wipes they either log for the night or switch BLs completely leaving the unorganized masses to get slaughtered by organized groups.

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Posted by: Fact.5908

Fact.5908

The current meta ISN’T to throw numbers at a target. There are more tactics involved than that, and the top guilds continually involve and try to improve their play.

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Posted by: Paxi.1386

Paxi.1386

I’m from a smaller guild on BG tag is DR. Would just like to say that 2v1’s happen in this game all the time, normally on a servers home borderland they get 2v1’d which is to be expected. If you think about it for a minute you will see that if your on an offensive borderland and you hit the other offensive team that tea will react and try to hit back, but the defending team will see this and try to capitalize on back caps and hitting one side or the other and getting as much territory from the preoccupied forces. That’s just good tactics, my guild looks for orange swords on whatever map we are on and if we see JQ and SoR fighting we try and take something from one of them. Once again I don’t think this is a bad thing in fact its a good thing to have map awareness.

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Posted by: Burl.9567

Burl.9567

The current meta ISN’T to throw numbers at a target. There’s more tactics involved than that, and the top guilds continually involve and try to improve their play.

Ummmmm….I’m glad we’re in agreement? While that isn’t the meta for the top guilds from each server, it very much is for the rest.

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Posted by: Fact.5908

Fact.5908

The current meta ISN’T to throw numbers at a target. There’s more tactics involved than that, and the top guilds continually involve and try to improve their play.

Ummmmm….I’m glad we’re in agreement? While that isn’t the meta for the top guilds from each server, it very much is for the rest.

Then I’ll continue to enjoy their bags?

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Posted by: LetoII.3782

LetoII.3782

The current meta ISN’T to throw numbers at a target. There’s more tactics involved than that, and the top guilds continually involve and try to improve their play.

Ummmmm….I’m glad we’re in agreement? While that isn’t the meta for the top guilds from each server, it very much is for the rest.

Then I’ll continue to enjoy their bags?

Sure?

Agreement???!!!!

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Posted by: zeus.2375

zeus.2375

BLAH BLAH BLAH
You know you love each other. Without BG, SOR, JQ i bet you all would probably stop playing this game already.

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Posted by: Bovinity.8610

Bovinity.8610

I really wish I were playing the same WvW as you guys that talk about these super-skilled small-size groups that are all over the place and never blob up because “that’s not your meta” or whatever.

Unless you mean that you guys have like 10 15-mans that just happen to all go to the same places together? =)

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Posted by: Liquid.9672

Liquid.9672

The current meta ISN’T to throw numbers at a target. There’s more tactics involved than that, and the top guilds continually involve and try to improve their play.

Ummmmm….I’m glad we’re in agreement? While that isn’t the meta for the top guilds from each server, it very much is for the rest.

Then I’ll continue to enjoy their bags?

You seem to be in a mood for animated gifs today, but this one really cracked me up. I bet you even made that face while typing your reply.

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Posted by: Fact.5908

Fact.5908

The current meta ISN’T to throw numbers at a target. There’s more tactics involved than that, and the top guilds continually involve and try to improve their play.

Ummmmm….I’m glad we’re in agreement? While that isn’t the meta for the top guilds from each server, it very much is for the rest.

Then I’ll continue to enjoy their bags?

You seem to be in a mood for animated gifs today, but this one really cracked me up. I bet you even made that face while typing your reply.

Mhmm.

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Posted by: Kjendar.6459

Kjendar.6459

What is up with JQQ camping the EB jumping puzzle.

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Posted by: timgod.9456

timgod.9456

Why no opposition in SM :’(

too bad there’s no other EU guilds that could’ve gone to JQ or BG so you’d have someone to fight :’(

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Posted by: Chris.3290

Chris.3290

The current meta ISN’T to throw numbers at a target. There are more tactics involved than that, and the top guilds continually involve and try to improve their play.

…right.

Actually, I can concede that one since it takes a strategic mind to figure out how to deploy 50 people in the most effective way to take a single target. :P

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Posted by: SleepingDragon.1596

SleepingDragon.1596

It looks even worse on EU now for us. Which effects my gametime massively. Maybe I should go to SoR so I can PvDoor like BG can in Oceanic timezone?
Demons of stupidity.
btw. I never saw anyone from TKG at EU prime? Never.

LOL. I purposely bought 2 new copies of GW2 from Amazon just to have some fun… One is at SOR and another in BG. PVDoor reminds me of the time I was in SOS doing leveling up. I even killed a few JQs… Sorry if I killed you folks, but I need badges on my other accounts too. ;-)

My main account will stay in JQ and if I’m on during NA timezone or whenever the numbers are fairly equal I’ll use it. The other 2 are for PVDoor purposes.

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Posted by: SleepingDragon.1596

SleepingDragon.1596

SoR 375 ppt

Full Queues all maps, stacked! Stacked! huehuehuehuehue

Truth be told… I find it sometimes hard to believe, but once it passes 1am PST, SOR even with their huge leads for the time it ticks with 300+ pts do have outnumbered (formerly known as outmanned) on a couple of bl’s…

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Posted by: kyro.8162

kyro.8162

Ok with all the RG talk I would like to interject that KnT has had the opportunity to fight them not GVG but open field on many occasions, on both of their visits to NA tier 1. Just because you don’t GVG them doesn’t mean tha your a crap guild. Believe me we have fought them more times than some of you have GVGed them. Matter of fact I think they have a video of about the nastiest 3 way fight you’ll ever see in GW 2 between us RG and VOTF in the dredge tunnel in EB. But just because we don’t GVG doesn’t mean that we didn’t seek out fights with them.

And another thing , for all the SOR players saying BGs NA is weak, it may no be our strongest time slot, but we have plenty of guilds in that time that you have a ton of trouble facing. So yeah we has a strong oceanic group but I’m tired of you saying BGs NA is crap. If hats the case then the rest of SORs guilds that don’t play prime time NA are also, well terrible. Even though that’s not true, that’s what SOR would have you believe about BGs NA. Get over yourselves.

The real reason people are calling BGs NA weak is because they want BGs NA to try to prove them wrong.
BG
NA (11): KnT, ICOA, BT, RISE, GOF, ATAC, RIOT, RUIN, WORK, RESO, OnS
SoR
NA (11): TW, FEAR, Tsym, Choo, LUN, Hel, PLUM, BMS, CAPS, VNG, HL
Those are all the NA guilds I remember seeing out in force for a majority of the week. It may be outdated as I haven’t been online in a few weeks, but overall BG and SoR has comparable NA.

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Posted by: MaLeVoLenT.8129

MaLeVoLenT.8129

Ok with all the RG talk I would like to interject that KnT has had the opportunity to fight them not GVG but open field on many occasions, on both of their visits to NA tier 1. Just because you don’t GVG them doesn’t mean tha your a crap guild. Believe me we have fought them more times than some of you have GVGed them. Matter of fact I think they have a video of about the nastiest 3 way fight you’ll ever see in GW 2 between us RG and VOTF in the dredge tunnel in EB. But just because we don’t GVG doesn’t mean that we didn’t seek out fights with them.

And another thing , for all the SOR players saying BGs NA is weak, it may no be our strongest time slot, but we have plenty of guilds in that time that you have a ton of trouble facing. So yeah we has a strong oceanic group but I’m tired of you saying BGs NA is crap. If hats the case then the rest of SORs guilds that don’t play prime time NA are also, well terrible. Even though that’s not true, that’s what SOR would have you believe about BGs NA. Get over yourselves.

The real reason people are calling BGs NA weak is because they want BGs NA to try to prove them wrong.
BG
NA (11): KnT, ICOA, BT, RISE, GOF, ATAC, RIOT, RUIN, WORK, RESO, OnS
SoR
NA (11): TW, FEAR, Tsym, Choo, LUN, Hel, PLUM, BMS, CAPS, VNG, HL
Those are all the NA guilds I remember seeing out in force for a majority of the week. It may be outdated as I haven’t been online in a few weeks, but overall BG and SoR has comparable NA.

Prove them wrong by doing what? PS I don’t remember fighting a PLUM and BMS guild But ATAC merged with OnS Riot is havoc and Work is too.

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Posted by: kyro.8162

kyro.8162

Ok with all the RG talk I would like to interject that KnT has had the opportunity to fight them not GVG but open field on many occasions, on both of their visits to NA tier 1. Just because you don’t GVG them doesn’t mean tha your a crap guild. Believe me we have fought them more times than some of you have GVGed them. Matter of fact I think they have a video of about the nastiest 3 way fight you’ll ever see in GW 2 between us RG and VOTF in the dredge tunnel in EB. But just because we don’t GVG doesn’t mean that we didn’t seek out fights with them.

And another thing , for all the SOR players saying BGs NA is weak, it may no be our strongest time slot, but we have plenty of guilds in that time that you have a ton of trouble facing. So yeah we has a strong oceanic group but I’m tired of you saying BGs NA is crap. If hats the case then the rest of SORs guilds that don’t play prime time NA are also, well terrible. Even though that’s not true, that’s what SOR would have you believe about BGs NA. Get over yourselves.

The real reason people are calling BGs NA weak is because they want BGs NA to try to prove them wrong.
BG
NA (11): KnT, ICOA, BT, RISE, GOF, ATAC, RIOT, RUIN, WORK, RESO, OnS
SoR
NA (11): TW, FEAR, Tsym, Choo, LUN, Hel, PLUM, BMS, CAPS, VNG, HL
Those are all the NA guilds I remember seeing out in force for a majority of the week. It may be outdated as I haven’t been online in a few weeks, but overall BG and SoR has comparable NA.

Prove them wrong by doing what? PS I don’t remember fighting a PLUM and BMS guild But ATAC merged with OnS Riot is havoc and Work is too.

PLUM, VNG, CAPS, BMS are all havoc as well. And prove that BGs NA isn’t comprised of weak, fickle, fair-weather players.
Oops, forgot about PD, another small guild of SoR.

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Posted by: Fact.5908

Fact.5908

The current meta ISN’T to throw numbers at a target. There are more tactics involved than that, and the top guilds continually involve and try to improve their play.

…right.

Actually, I can concede that one since it takes a strategic mind to figure out how to deploy 50 people in the most effective way to take a single target. :P

Actually, many top guilds have broken into smaller groups and try to take on larger blobs with smaller numbers. Just because your guild doesn’t challenge itself, don’t think it’s the meta.

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Posted by: shortcake.8659

shortcake.8659

comparing a number of guilds is a pretty bad way to list them when i’m pretty sure some of those on both sides probably have less than 5 players on every night

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Posted by: kyro.8162

kyro.8162

comparing a number of guilds is a pretty bad way to list them when i’m pretty sure some of those on both sides probably have less than 5 players on every night

Small guild are still important in wvwvw, so I decided to put them on there.

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Posted by: shortcake.8659

shortcake.8659

yeah but the point is that trying to compare the number of guilds doesn’t really give much information. tbh i could swear like at least 3 of those BG guilds are all the same people and another 2 are basically completely inactive. or i could add my guild of 2 active players to the list and say “HAH! BG outnumbers you!”

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Posted by: MaLeVoLenT.8129

MaLeVoLenT.8129

Ok with all the RG talk I would like to interject that KnT has had the opportunity to fight them not GVG but open field on many occasions, on both of their visits to NA tier 1. Just because you don’t GVG them doesn’t mean tha your a crap guild. Believe me we have fought them more times than some of you have GVGed them. Matter of fact I think they have a video of about the nastiest 3 way fight you’ll ever see in GW 2 between us RG and VOTF in the dredge tunnel in EB. But just because we don’t GVG doesn’t mean that we didn’t seek out fights with them.

And another thing , for all the SOR players saying BGs NA is weak, it may no be our strongest time slot, but we have plenty of guilds in that time that you have a ton of trouble facing. So yeah we has a strong oceanic group but I’m tired of you saying BGs NA is crap. If hats the case then the rest of SORs guilds that don’t play prime time NA are also, well terrible. Even though that’s not true, that’s what SOR would have you believe about BGs NA. Get over yourselves.

The real reason people are calling BGs NA weak is because they want BGs NA to try to prove them wrong.
BG
NA (11): KnT, ICOA, BT, RISE, GOF, ATAC, RIOT, RUIN, WORK, RESO, OnS
SoR
NA (11): TW, FEAR, Tsym, Choo, LUN, Hel, PLUM, BMS, CAPS, VNG, HL
Those are all the NA guilds I remember seeing out in force for a majority of the week. It may be outdated as I haven’t been online in a few weeks, but overall BG and SoR has comparable NA.

Prove them wrong by doing what? PS I don’t remember fighting a PLUM and BMS guild But ATAC merged with OnS Riot is havoc and Work is too.

PLUM, VNG, CAPS, BMS are all havoc as well. And prove that BGs NA isn’t comprised of weak, fickle, fair-weather players.

Pretty sure all those guilds you listed have spent a ton of time in WvW win or lose I know me being the leader of OnS have spent a kittened amount of time out in WvW doesnt matter if we are losing or not I come for the enjoyment of WvW not the PPT. I’ve also coordinated with a lot of those guilds and know they are not fair weathers. I feel you guys are being disrespectful to your competition. That’s on both sides of the fence too not just SoR hating on BG but BG hating on SoR too. As for “weak” goes? I guess that’s a matter of opinion and who is fighting who on what front.

My point of the matter is we’ve been in this match up for way to long to keep bashing the same things over and over again. I look at other match ups and its nothing like this. I fought a lot of these guilds since the game came out and some of you were even allies. I’d prefer not to kitten talk so kitten much and play the kitten game. It’s not bad to admit when you kittened up or got wiped just say GG well played and move the hell on.. both servers zerg too this is freaken T1 get over it.

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Posted by: Bovinity.8610

Bovinity.8610

Actually, many top guilds have broken into smaller groups and try to take on larger blobs with smaller numbers. Just because your guild doesn’t challenge itself, don’t think it’s the meta.

Like I said, I wish I played in the WvW that you’re playing in.

This isn’t really a slam on you or IRON or any guild in particular. But this fantasy world that you guys claim that Tier 1 is, where everyone running in these super-strategic small groups all the time, is just absurd.

I wish Tier 1 WvW was really like that, I really do, but I think everyone here knows the truth of how 99% of fights really turn out. Maybe it’s not intentional, maybe you guys start off with a group of 10 and just attract 50 pugs that never break off. I dunno. But the reality is very different from the fantasy.

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Posted by: Vash.9183

Vash.9183

It’s not like small groups are easy to spot. They’re out there, running without commander tags. It’s not like we’re going to run around with a big neon sign above our head saying, “look at us, we’re a small group!!!!”

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Posted by: Bovinity.8610

Bovinity.8610

It’s not like small groups are easy to spot. They’re out there, running without commander tags. It’s not like we’re going to run around with a big neon sign above our head saying, “look at us, we’re a small group!!!!”

So on top of being super secret small man elite groups, you’re ninjas too?

I mean, surely if you ever took an objective or did something, someone would see you. I guesss this is all just part of the fantasy, though.

Unless, of course, you’re referring to the “10 15-man groups that just happen to go to the same place together all the time” phenomenon. =D

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Posted by: Fact.5908

Fact.5908

I forgot you could be in all four maps at once, and I also had forgotten that there were scouts all over the map that see absolutely everything and report it directly to Teamspeak! Quite the oversight on my part.

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Posted by: Bovinity.8610

Bovinity.8610

I forgot you could be in all four maps at once, and I also had forgotten that there were scouts all over the map that see absolutely everything and report it directly to Teamspeak! Quite the oversight on my part.

Right, so no one sees you, ever. Not even people you supposedly fight? =D

Any sufficiently advanced skill is indistinguishable from luck.

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Posted by: Kathy K.6812

Kathy K.6812

Ok with all the RG talk I would like to interject that KnT has had the opportunity to fight them not GVG but open field on many occasions, on both of their visits to NA tier 1. Just because you don’t GVG them doesn’t mean tha your a crap guild. Believe me we have fought them more times than some of you have GVGed them. Matter of fact I think they have a video of about the nastiest 3 way fight you’ll ever see in GW 2 between us RG and VOTF in the dredge tunnel in EB. But just because we don’t GVG doesn’t mean that we didn’t seek out fights with them.

And another thing , for all the SOR players saying BGs NA is weak, it may no be our strongest time slot, but we have plenty of guilds in that time that you have a ton of trouble facing. So yeah we has a strong oceanic group but I’m tired of you saying BGs NA is crap. If hats the case then the rest of SORs guilds that don’t play prime time NA are also, well terrible. Even though that’s not true, that’s what SOR would have you believe about BGs NA. Get over yourselves.

The real reason people are calling BGs NA weak is because they want BGs NA to try to prove them wrong.
BG
NA (11): KnT, ICOA, BT, RISE, GOF, ATAC, RIOT, RUIN, WORK, RESO, OnS
SoR
NA (11): TW, FEAR, Tsym, Choo, LUN, Hel, PLUM, BMS, CAPS, VNG, HL
Those are all the NA guilds I remember seeing out in force for a majority of the week. It may be outdated as I haven’t been online in a few weeks, but overall BG and SoR has comparable NA.

Lol you make it sound like SoR always has PPT lead during NA… That isn’t always the case & frankly I’m surprised they don’t. They get carried hard by their EU which leads into NA EST. Blackgate lacks NA EST but still puts up a competitive fight against SoR’s stacked NA EST presence.

In NA PST BG is the clear winner.

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Posted by: Akio.1749

Akio.1749

Ok with all the RG talk I would like to interject that KnT has had the opportunity to fight them not GVG but open field on many occasions, on both of their visits to NA tier 1. Just because you don’t GVG them doesn’t mean tha your a crap guild. Believe me we have fought them more times than some of you have GVGed them. Matter of fact I think they have a video of about the nastiest 3 way fight you’ll ever see in GW 2 between us RG and VOTF in the dredge tunnel in EB. But just because we don’t GVG doesn’t mean that we didn’t seek out fights with them.

And another thing , for all the SOR players saying BGs NA is weak, it may no be our strongest time slot, but we have plenty of guilds in that time that you have a ton of trouble facing. So yeah we has a strong oceanic group but I’m tired of you saying BGs NA is crap. If hats the case then the rest of SORs guilds that don’t play prime time NA are also, well terrible. Even though that’s not true, that’s what SOR would have you believe about BGs NA. Get over yourselves.

The real reason people are calling BGs NA weak is because they want BGs NA to try to prove them wrong.
BG
NA (11): KnT, ICOA, BT, RISE, GOF, ATAC, RIOT, RUIN, WORK, RESO, OnS
SoR
NA (11): TW, FEAR, Tsym, Choo, LUN, Hel, PLUM, BMS, CAPS, VNG, HL
Those are all the NA guilds I remember seeing out in force for a majority of the week. It may be outdated as I haven’t been online in a few weeks, but overall BG and SoR has comparable NA.

RISE has changed over to a hardcore RP guild, so you can remove them

SoR
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[TW] Member

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Posted by: Waage.2047

Waage.2047

Hey Kiss sorry we could not stay in JQ and fight you. You did not have a massive blob and i wanted to test out some things one you.

I horribly miss timed something that got us all killed twice at least, but i was hopeing to have a fun little fight, but we had to give up on fighting you guys and instead try and hold an important zone to us.

Sorry for running off to many people to fight to little time.

[RK] – Guild Leader and awesome Warrior – BG

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Posted by: GekoHayate.2451

GekoHayate.2451

The real reason people are calling BGs NA weak is because they want BGs NA to try to prove them wrong.
BG
NA (11): KnT, ICOA, BT, RISE, GOF, ATAC, RIOT, RUIN, WORK, RESO, OnS
SoR
NA (11): TW, FEAR, Tsym, Choo, LUN, Hel, PLUM, BMS, CAPS, VNG, HL
Those are all the NA guilds I remember seeing out in force for a majority of the week. It may be outdated as I haven’t been online in a few weeks, but overall BG and SoR has comparable NA.

RISE has changed over to a hardcore RP guild, so you can remove them

Couldn’t have HB take all the glory huh?

RPing with Smokee, those were the days!

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Posted by: pot.6805

pot.6805

It’s been real!

BeeGee
Beast mode

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Posted by: Vash.9183

Vash.9183

Tbh, you can’t really compare BG SEA to SoR EU. What you get done in EU lasts you through NA to where you don’t start on the defensive in NA. You get to go full force right off the bat. SoR is at 415 ppt right now.

I know everyone complains when they get their weak spot hit, but yeah. It makes it hard to get your NA prime started when everything except your garrison has been taken, but even it is being rushed with a map zerg because your enemy has nothing else to hit.

C’mon BG! Get in wvw. :P

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Posted by: Gerby.6219

Gerby.6219

BG is at 40 ppt . Yeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh we are stacked

SoR was at 15 ppt the other day, what’s your point? Each server has a timezone they’ll dominate in. No need to be making bright remarks unless you’re ticking 695 ppt throughout the whole week.

Hm

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Posted by: Kryyg.8576

Kryyg.8576

Why is BG complaining so much. You won last match by a big margin and you are winning this match.

Lets stop making excuses and start fighting.

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Posted by: Fact.5908

Fact.5908

If we could not report posts that you disagree with, that’d be great.

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Posted by: Vash.9183

Vash.9183

Why is BG complaining so much. You won last match by a big margin and you are winning this match.

Lets stop making excuses and start fighting.

I agree that we need to keep fighting, but that lead is from the weekend.

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Posted by: Fact.5908

Fact.5908

BG has more weekend warriors, it’s that simple.

Fact [IRON] – Sanctum of Rall
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Posted by: Kryyg.8576

Kryyg.8576

Does anyone else enjoy Fact’s little pictures as much as I do?

The attention to detail is simply fantastic.

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Posted by: Fact.5908

Fact.5908

I’d like to thank the academy.

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Posted by: Vash.9183

Vash.9183

Not necessarily.

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