Guild Wars 2

Sandra Martino.3870:

Tyldor.9078:

You guys had 80+ people while we had about 30 to 40? We were outnumbered heavily atleast.

You can actually say that with dry eyes?

Oh god..

They already said they had a queue and i was stuck in queue a bit on our side so I’d say quite fair in numbers, unless that map only holds 30-40 ppl lol

Twinny.9304:

We didn’t mind the numbers i thought it was pretty fair in numbers, it was the banners and wp I see it as no fault of ur own as I would have done the same if i was desperate to save a keep etc, numbers was fine u were queued and we were queued sounds roughly even to me. Anyway glad you enjoyed it, we didn’t, loot was good but the time on that garrison could have been more productive else where (only speaking personally at the time i got there) the other guys had been there a lot longer bless them

Exactly this. There is little to no effort required to banner the lord back up, since the warrior’s priority is to stall the capping process by bannering the lord, it doesn’t matter
if the warrior survives or not. Therefore, making it even more annoying, because warriors would leeroy in with invulnerability & stability, banner the lord, then die and waypoint back in 1-2 minutes anyway.

http://www.twitch.tv/xsuperxgw2/b/468492270

1hr 07 is where it starts in garrison, seems like a fair fight.

Funny how people spend so much time discussing these things, peeps really seem to care a lot about other guilds/players opinions I’m entertained so i can’t complain! And yes, i totally agree, sieging is boring and goes faster with a blob. But people will complain about it, just as i’m sure members from the fsp guilds have complained about Abbadon or other servers doing it to them. I was on FSP for about 1 year, and i’m glad FSP i doing better now, but i can’t help feeling there are some hypocrites who in the past complained about certain things and are now doing it themselves.

Anyway, play however you like, you paid for the game too. Final note about siegeing, if you don’t like it, don’t do it. XxX rarely takes objectives, unless there is nothing else to do, but we have fun anyway

fab.3298:

http://www.twitch.tv/xsuperxgw2/b/468492270

1hr 07 is where it starts in garrison, seems like a fair fight.

Never stated that the fight itself was unfair. Actually it was the opposite. We outnumbered you probably slightly. The thing that most of us FSP’ers had problems with, though, was the fact that bannering the lord is just too much convenient atm. You just run up invulnerable, get within 600 range, and stall the entire process for 1 hour.

Steelo.4597:

gh build siege, gh banner lord, gh so bad my guild 15 vs server easy… didnt think the amount of forum warrioring in this thread could be topped, but you did well there jackie. 9/10 at least.

The only forum warrior is you, in that you take my post completely out of context to say something absolutely stupid. I said I could stop garrison from being flipped with 15 peole and you turnewd it into 15vserver easy.

I guess if you are bad in game though, you need to make it up somehow on the forums right? Random players talking big, always epic. 10/10 for you

Twinny.9304:

Sandra Martino.3870:

Tyldor.9078:

You guys had 80+ people while we had about 30 to 40? We were outnumbered heavily atleast.

You can actually say that with dry eyes?

Oh god..

They already said they had a queue and i was stuck in queue a bit on our side so I’d say quite fair in numbers, unless that map only holds 30-40 ppl lol

Nono, they had a queue, but they only defended with 25 players, and they dedicated the other 75+ on the map to capping the keeps which “we were too stupid to defend”. But we are the bad guys for using 70 to cap a t3 keep while they use 75 to cap the paper undefended keeps.

The story gets better and better every time I hear it. I am so glad I am in this tier.

We only needed 25 in garrison, the rest were surplus to requirement so they went elsewhere.

ThomasKreshant.6572:

The mechanics you hate are the reason I play the game.

Oh well different strokes for different folks.

So keeps that cannot be captured are good for the game then? That is why you play the game? If it is I am not going to hate on you, I simply question whether that is a majority opinion. I will admit, it is sometimes good to do things which defy the odds, but that doesnt make it good for the game.

Just like if they removed AoE cap and a single raid could bomb an entire server like in warhammer, its fun for a select few but not good for the game/its broken.

How can they be captured then?

I mean not to sound arrogant, but I do know the game inside out, with all skills/traits/mechanics for all the classes in the game. There was no counter to that short of rerolling a bunch of our raid players to necros and hoping at a chance for corrupts.

As for saying VoTF were not fans of EVE… well…. I am quite sure Aneu still has his account, and VoTF are known in EVE, so not sure where you got that opinion from.

What I like is a game with good balance that takes skill to play and has counters for all strategies. Whether the siege takes 6 months or 6 minutes is of little consequence to me, as long as the outcome was determined by skill.

Jackie.1829:

How can they be captured then?

I mean not to sound arrogant, but I do know the game inside out, with all skills/traits/mechanics for all the classes in the game. There was no counter to that short of rerolling a bunch of our raid players to necros and hoping at a chance for corrupts.

As for saying VoTF were not fans of EVE… well…. I am quite sure Aneu still has his account, and VoTF are known in EVE, so not sure where you got that opinion from.

What I like is a game with good balance that takes skill to play and has counters for all strategies. Whether the siege takes 6 months or 6 minutes is of little consequence to me, as long as the outcome was determined by skill.

You could try attacking another objective and pulling them from there, and then have another group or maybe rush the keep. If you are that serious about taking it.

ThomasKreshant.6572:

Jackie.1829:

ThomasKreshant.6572:

The mechanics you hate are the reason I play the game.

Oh well different strokes for different folks.

So keeps that cannot be captured are good for the game then? That is why you play the game? If it is I am not going to hate on you, I simply question whether that is a majority opinion.

But then I also play EVE and I love 6+ month defensive/offensive campaigns, ya’ll weren’t fans of that game play either if I recall rightly.

My dear friend, comparing Eve to a game like GW2 is like comparing a marathon to running up the stairs in your house… Also you may not have played the game prior to the stagnation that is currently involved but having fought the Stain Alliance and practically all of 0,0 minus a couple of regions for quite a long time (Over a year) I would suggest you “recall” better.

fab.3298:

We only needed 25 in garrison, the rest were surplus to requirement so they went elsewhere.

When i got there the map was green so god knows what they were doing? and ur guys already said they had a queue on map.

Look end of the day it was roughly even numbers and u kept your garrison, good for u, boring for us, VoTF’s Twitch was posted above if u haven’t already seen what a boring job the guys had ( nice stream btw guys ), hows about we leave this topic where it is? 7 pages of crap and its only mid week.

CharlieBear.2741:

Jackie.1829:

How can they be captured then?

I mean not to sound arrogant, but I do know the game inside out, with all skills/traits/mechanics for all the classes in the game. There was no counter to that short of rerolling a bunch of our raid players to necros and hoping at a chance for corrupts.

As for saying VoTF were not fans of EVE… well…. I am quite sure Aneu still has his account, and VoTF are known in EVE, so not sure where you got that opinion from.

What I like is a game with good balance that takes skill to play and has counters for all strategies. Whether the siege takes 6 months or 6 minutes is of little consequence to me, as long as the outcome was determined by skill.

You could try attacking another objective and pulling them from there, and then have another group or maybe rush the keep. If you are that serious about taking it.

2 paper keeps, 1 tier 3 keep with waypoint… next

So let me get this straight guys.
All this new wave of drama created because some people banner res the lord?
Seriously you find all the other issues at this game fine and your problem is why you couldn’t take a keep?
As far as i am aware GH borders had 30 minutes qs so even what you are accusing us is something bad, which it isn’t, it just didn’t happen period.
@Jackie incase you haven’t noticed we are all random players here.
This is not SC2 you are not MVP and i am certainly not Nestea.
So every random player can have his opinion.
Because you are playing at a high skilled guild does not make your opinion more valuable.
Can we get back discussing the matchup instead of this bs?

There were no other objectives, we owned hills and bay at the time, and even if they took them back we didnt care, those 2 were flipped from t3 to paper, all we wanted to do was remove the upgrades on garrison.

When VoTF set their raid the intention wasnt “get the highest ppt” it was simply, flip each keep once to remove upgrades.

We got to the last keep, but due to the waypoint location, the layout (its garrison after all) the keep proved to be impossible to capture. And we certainly do know how to play the game, if there was a viable counter we would have thought of it on the spot.

Discussing the matchup? This entire thread was fail from the start anyways, all ive read is “bla bla ive wiped this guild, they blobbed”. I offer you a discussion on actual game mechanics, something that requires some depth or knowledge of the game, and immediately “I am entitled to my opinion!” qq. Grow up, I never said you werent, I simply asked whether it is good for the game or not.

Although encouraging discussion is hard, instead what I will do is post screenshots of all the GH guilds we have wiped over the week, cause trust me its a lot.

ThomasKreshant.6572:

Aneu.1748:

My dear friend, comparing Eve to a game like GW2 is like comparing a marathon to running up the stairs in your house… Also you may not have played the game prior to the stagnation that is currently involved but having fought the Stain Alliance and practically all of 0,0 minus a couple of regions for quite a long time (Over a year) I would suggest you “recall” better.

I recall perfectly, EVE changed to suit my tastes and was less to yours.

I liked the ‘stagnation’ and the change from a more roaming mobile warfare to the 4 am alarm clock SOV bashing ops.

As I said different people different strokes.

So you favor boring mechanics – Gotcha.

It happened to us in matches against every server we ever met. Neither Riverside nor Ring of fire like to lose an upgraded keep (especially if it’s the last on the map).

However i agree that the way capping a keep works is broken. Seeing the lord chain bannered is annoying as kitten and not fun for either side.
Then again it’s usually good loot. How many players have to die while salvaging for anet to realize that this is stupid?

Jackie.1829:

There were no other objectives, we owned hills and bay at the time, and even if they took them back we didnt care, those 2 were flipped from t3 to paper, all we wanted to do was remove the upgrades on garrison.

When VoTF set their raid the intention wasnt “get the highest ppt” it was simply, flip each keep once to remove upgrades.

We got to the last keep, but due to the waypoint location, the layout (its garrison after all) the keep proved to be impossible to capture. And we certainly do know how to play the game, if there was a viable counter we would have thought of it on the spot.

Discussing the matchup? This entire thread was fail from the start anyways, all ive read is “bla bla ive wiped this guild, they blobbed”. I offer you a discussion on actual game mechanics, something that requires some depth or knowledge of the game, and immediately “I am entitled to my opinion!” qq. Grow up, I never said you werent, I simply asked whether it is good for the game or not.

Although encouraging discussion is hard, instead what I will do is post screenshots of all the GH guilds we have wiped over the week, cause trust me its a lot.

Ok it is not good for the game and you are absolutely right mate
Can we move on?

where are all FSP roamers? i only find GH!

I highlighted the fight in garrison inner
70 Minutes fighting in inner before we got bored of killing the lord and random players 1 by 1

http://www.twitch.tv/xsuperxgw2/c/3053707

Was over 90 minutes in garrison in total and we didn’t even take it.
Banners too op!

I almost finished a whole movie on my second screen while spamming n1 on air inside garrison, at least i got over 1k kills in like 2-3h ^^

Completely agreed that the banner mechanism is massively broken (it should not reset the capture progress). And the waypoint mechanism is also somewhat broken.

But unless I’m missing something later in the video the keep lord is nearly always in easy locations and you just naively kill him as soon as he’s back up. It’s actually possible to kite him in pretty crazy spots if you’re organised about it, and then you can have a guild group defending his corpse there and make it harder (not impossible ofc) to banner.

Not sure why you’re complaining given how much farming you were able to do there anyway

I wasn’t there, and cba to watch the hole twitch video.
But you guys spent over an hour trying to cap garri, and banner res is the only thing you’re blaming?

Am I missing something?

I belive the constant waypointing also already was part of this topic.

Uttar.2341:

But unless I’m missing something later in the video the keep lord is nearly always in easy locations and you just naively kill him as soon as he’s back up. It’s actually possible to kite him in pretty crazy spots if you’re organised about it, and then you can have a guild group defending his corpse there and make it harder (not impossible ofc) to banner.
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That’s what we tried to do with Kale. We kited him upstairs all the way to the balcony thingy near oil, threw tons of lines, called and tried to kill every single warrior we saw coming towards the lord, but still it wasn’t enough.

Jackie.1829:

There were no other objectives, we owned hills and bay at the time, and even if they took them back we didnt care, those 2 were flipped from t3 to paper, all we wanted to do was remove the upgrades on garrison.

When VoTF set their raid the intention wasnt “get the highest ppt” it was simply, flip each keep once to remove upgrades.

So you failed in your objectives and then had a cry?

Thank you for making that hard fought victory so much sweeter

Jackie.1829:

There were no other objectives, we owned hills and bay at the time, and even if they took them back we didnt care, those 2 were flipped from t3 to paper, all we wanted to do was remove the upgrades on garrison.

When VoTF set their raid the intention wasnt “get the highest ppt” it was simply, flip each keep once to remove upgrades.

We got to the last keep, but due to the waypoint location, the layout (its garrison after all) the keep proved to be impossible to capture. And we certainly do know how to play the game, if there was a viable counter we would have thought of it on the spot.

Discussing the matchup? This entire thread was fail from the start anyways, all ive read is “bla bla ive wiped this guild, they blobbed”. I offer you a discussion on actual game mechanics, something that requires some depth or knowledge of the game, and immediately “I am entitled to my opinion!” qq. Grow up, I never said you werent, I simply asked whether it is good for the game or not.

Although encouraging discussion is hard, instead what I will do is post screenshots of all the GH guilds we have wiped over the week, cause trust me its a lot.

Just because some people are putting oil on the fire doesn’t mean there isn’t a decent discussion going on.

I’d like to end it from my part with the conclusion we did what we have to do to counter your numbers. It is a broken mechanic, yes, but it gave us alot of fun and you guys alot of lootbags. We can make each other out for pathetic players, no skillers or whatever but in the end we both did what we had to. You said you guys blobbed up because you rather not spend hours on taking down a T3 keep and we used the banners to keep our waypoint, simple as that. You said you guys didn’t start the raid with the mind set on PPT, we didn’t start our raid with the mind set on tactically bannering the lord up to banner number 50 on all our upscaled alts we specially leveled up to prevent the massive FRS blob from capturing Garri ( sorry, I fell out in troll modus there for a second, excuse me )

The actual mechanic is pretty much broken, but I’d still be defending the way we treated this situation. We saw massive numbers and did the best thing we could do to keep our waypoint. If the discussion is about the actual mechanic rather then the way we treated this I totally agree with you guys. If it’s about the way we handled it, read my previous posts.

Huttunen.8309:

That’s what we tried to do with Kale. We kited him upstairs all the way to the balcony thingy near oil, threw tons of lines, called and tried to kill every single warrior we saw coming towards the lord, but still it wasn’t enough.

Ah okay cool. That’s still close to the waypoint though, for example it’s possible to kite him all the way to west inner AFAIK. And yes it’s very silly something like this is the best (and very imperfect) counter to that ‘mechanic’…

Tyldor.9078:

Just because some people are putting oil on the fire doesn’t mean there isn’t a decent discussion going on.

I’d like to end it from my part with the conclusion we did what we have to do to counter your numbers. It is a broken mechanic, yes, but it gave us alot of fun and you guys alot of lootbags. We can make each other out for pathetic players, no skillers or whatever but in the end we both did what we had to. You said you guys blobbed up because you rather not spend hours on taking down a T3 keep and we used the banners to keep our waypoint, simple as that. You said you guys didn’t start the raid with the mind set on PPT, we didn’t start our raid with the mind set on tactically bannering the lord up to banner number 50 on all our upscaled alts we specially leveled up to prevent the massive FRS blob from capturing Garri ( sorry, I fell out in troll modus there for a second, excuse me )

The actual mechanic is pretty much broken, but I’d still be defending the way we treated this situation. We saw massive numbers and did the best thing we could do to keep our waypoint. If the discussion is about the actual mechanic rather then the way we treated this I totally agree with you guys. If it’s about the way we handled it, read my previous posts.

He may have said blobbing, cba to check, but what in actual fact happened is 3 guilds simply made an organized push together, but by no means did they actually blob on top of each other, just watch supers stream to see that.

Now I’m saying this taking no servers side, the attacking side should of got the keep, plain and simple, I couldn’t care if it was T3 or not, fact of the matter is that abusing the living hell out of a feature that Anet still don’t think is broken…is just a sad way to win, now I’m not saying that the defenders shoulden’t of used it as it’s not illegal by any means atm, but the fact that it’s there and deamed “working as intended” by Devon Carver is just mind boggling, and it baffles me even more into how people can even begin to think that this is a good feature.

I’ll finish off with saying the idea behind the “Banner” is to “Rally” your downed troops per say, not resurrect them from the dead, that right there just shows that it’s a broken feature when the idea behind it is to rally downed players, not dead npcs.

guys guys guys….

lets have peace again….

Can I ask why do you FSP people run away when I, a thief, am going inside a camp carrying a Warbanner? It’s not like I’ll try to warbanner rez the Supervisor, I would never do such a broken thing.

UWs were not so scared when I ran into them with it!

FSP your defeat at GH garrison was nothing to do with game mechanics, broken or otherwise. It was simply down to bad tactical decisions on your part.

You arrogantly assumed that, with your superior numbers the outcome was already decided when you reached the lord’s room from the SE door while the main bulk of the defence was on the North door.

Had you ALL gone straight to the lord’s room in the beginning instead of trying to be ‘clever’ you could have saved yourselves a lot of pain. Also, failing to clear the outer walls and hold them, allowed us to use the mortars and put up 3 trebs to help pound you into dust.

So, please don’t blame the game for your own ineptitude.

OMG, how come I havn’t seen this thread before now! Someone pass me some popcorn! I love the guy who posted the link to this thread on our own forum!
May the spirit in your forum warriors forever be strong so I wont get a borring moment anymore! Dont let any insult from the other server bring you down, devour that anger and send it right back at the person who sent it to you! Puuuush puuuush puuuush!

tichai.4351:

FSP your defeat at GH garrison was nothing to do with game mechanics, broken or otherwise. It was simply down to bad tactical decisions on your part.

There was no defeat, guilds just pulled out because it became boring killing the lord for over one hour.

The drama seems to be thriving.

Now the only thing lacking is some solo roamers in this matchup.

@kribre Awesome post Can’t wait to face you guys at Aurora again as the last matchup was really good.
@Hihey Hillarious. We shall be known as Banners Hold instead of Gollems Hold from now on.

CharlieBear.2741:

where are all FSP roamers? i only find GH!

Essa.5826:

The drama seems to be thriving.

Now the only thing lacking is some solo roamers in this matchup.

Time for a date perhaps?

Twinny I think you need to update the guide.

The years went passed and moon of my life were still gone from the world, however, the battlefield had involvled to the true bloodfest it once was. Their was a man with so much power that even the MIGHTY WORM GÛNTER was afraid of him and his Fabolous hammertrain. The true name of the legendary commander is yet unsolved but rumors says that fsp call him Mr. Q. Where there is battlemaker there is a Bard amoung the fighters and during a heavy seigefire a flashlight appeared and through the light the king of all Bard appeared and sang

- what is loveeeeeee

a voice echoed through the battlefield – baby dont hurt meee

Who had sang that? was it a ghost? A PVE commander? A rallybot?

The questions were many but the answers were yet so few

Dinamin.7083:

The years went passed and moon of my life were still gone from the world, however, the battlefield had involvled to the true bloodfest it once was. Their was a man with so much power that even the MIGHTY WORM GÛNTER was afraid of him and his Fabolous hammertrain. The true name of the legendary commander is yet unsolved but rumors says that fsp call him Mr. Q. Where there is battlemaker there is a Bard amoung the fighters and during a heavy seigefire a flashlight appeared and through the light the king of all Bard appeared and sang

- what is loveeeeeee

a voice echoed through the battlefield – baby dont hurt meee

Who had sang that? was it a ghost? A PVE commander? A rallybot?

The questions were many but the answers were yet so few

Er.. Wasn’t it Haddaway?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhrBDcQq2DM?

Dinamin.7083:

The years went passed and moon of my life were still gone from the world, however, the battlefield had involvled to the true bloodfest it once was. Their was a man with so much power that even the MIGHTY WORM GÛNTER was afraid of him and his Fabolous hammertrain. The true name of the legendary commander is yet unsolved but rumors says that fsp call him Mr. Q. Where there is battlemaker there is a Bard amoung the fighters and during a heavy seigefire a flashlight appeared and through the light the king of all Bard appeared and sang

- what is loveeeeeee

a voice echoed through the battlefield – baby dont hurt meee

Who had sang that? was it a ghost? A PVE commander? A rallybot?

The questions were many but the answers were yet so few

It is I, Leclerc!

Dinamin.7083:

The years went passed and moon of my life were still gone from the world, however, the battlefield had involvled to the true bloodfest it once was. Their was a man with so much power that even the MIGHTY WORM GÛNTER was afraid of him and his Fabolous hammertrain. The true name of the legendary commander is yet unsolved but rumors says that fsp call him Mr. Q. Where there is battlemaker there is a Bard amoung the fighters and during a heavy seigefire a flashlight appeared and through the light the king of all Bard appeared and sang

- what is loveeeeeee

a voice echoed through the battlefield – baby dont hurt meee

Who had sang that? was it a ghost? A PVE commander? A rallybot?

The questions were many but the answers were yet so few

It were… The Quaggans! o.o
Or it was Henry… Henry! Henry… HENRY! You know Henry? Yeeeees Henry.
Or those evil risen quaggan souls risen up out of the lake to come hunt you down…
Nah, it was clearly Henry who sang that.

ps. Henry is the Bay wurm ;D

To add to the drama: you VoTF guys are really cool and I respect you as a group that’s probably one of the best in game right now. I also disapprove of the use of banners on dead NPCs to hold a cap circle longer. But let’s just look into this again… You complained (!) that GH held their closest and most important keep on their own borderland using a broken game mechanic. (broken according to personal opinion of course) All that while you were running a solid guild raid of 20+ cooperating with 2 other guilds likewise running 20+ to take an objective. My opinion of VoTF moving to our tier (or league) may not be important to you but just to state the obvious which you probably already knew before you moved: this is not t1. There’s no 80 man blobs 24/7 on all 4 maps + EB JP. A 15 man group here is called a guild raid. A 20 man group is a bit of an overkill after primetime and even in primetime on some maps. a 25+ guild raid is simply a blob in my eyes and probably most people who were on lower tier servers feel the same. Running 30 or more is simply pointless. No one will be able to match neither in skill nor in numbers and if they do it’s because they had to either call for help of another guild or had to recruit more people making them run more numbers than they’re comfortable with. I’ve seen you run close to 35 players in a raid. It played like a slideshow for me and I didn’t feel that you were a superior skilled organised super-guild but simply a large group of players farming kills. You may argue that FURY runs close to 30 players at nights but that usually means everyone is more laid back and lose focus. I also do not support us doing it but that doesn’t matter. Back to the point I looked at the stream of that Garrison fight and it really was annoying but for the love of god why would you be there if you don’t enjoy it. Some of you stated that there was a 75 man Gunnar’s Hold WXP train running around. Why didn’t you go kill those? Any excuse for that? I bet there’s a broken mechanic for everything you did and didn’t do. For example I see some of you hard ressing players inside Garrison. I feel that’s a broken mechanic and should not be in the game. Either way I love you guys how you are but I’m not impressed and you certainly do not resemble the picture I had in mind for VoTF.

TL;DR: I feel like a primary school kid, VoTF being the big guy stealing my toys and then complaining that I didn’t thank him for it.

Jimmy JimBob.2801:

Jackie.1829:

There were no other objectives, we owned hills and bay at the time, and even if they took them back we didnt care, those 2 were flipped from t3 to paper, all we wanted to do was remove the upgrades on garrison.

When VoTF set their raid the intention wasnt “get the highest ppt” it was simply, flip each keep once to remove upgrades.

So you failed in your objectives and then had a cry?

Thank you for making that hard fought victory so much sweeter

I wouldnt say we failed, I would actually call it quite the success with the amount of bags we farmed from it plus the amount of times the lords drop reset, that is worth something surely?

So what maps will guilds be on tonight?

You intended to take Garrison you didn’t take it so, like it or not…you failed

Just wanted to say this thread is pure gold.
For the banner ress, i was the one that made the thread some time ago because it happened the same thing like many many times, the dev answer the thread, saying “kill the warrior” like it’s the only class that can do it, anyways the tactica it’s the say of Zerg rushing from spawn in Tpvp long time ago until the fixed the respawn, so anybody that think that bannering the lord hours it’s not broken, he’s not seeing the mechanic from both side. For capping or defending you should be able to kill the people inside, else you should lose whatever you have.

Suggesting for the people attacking garrison, the lord if it stay on the lord room it’s self it’s just too easy for them, you need pull it on the second floor and kill it near the brige on the second floor, we usually also use Superior Ac, ballista and cata on the dead corpe of the lord to hide it at least bit.

Anyways the mechanic it’s pretty lame, but the game is made like this for now, i just wished that the cap didn’t reset everytime that’s the most annoying thing.

For GH now you’re in big league, you recruitied a Full Primetime you should except Blob, Big guilds and Map zone blob.
This it’s not bronze league or aganist server with 1200-1300 ranking.
There will be always somebody with more than you and you have somehow deal with it.

From Ag much love, hope nobody of you guys geat SEA-NA coverage so we can fight in primetime and not on night!
Shoutout to all the guild, Fury,Punk, Teo, Rage, INC,XxX, Gum.
Probably missed some, keep this thread alive!!!

iorlas.6721:

You intended to take Garrison you didn’t take it so, like it or not…you failed

We intended to wipe Tier 3 off the map, we achieved that on both Hills and Bay, 2/3 is better than 1/3 no?