Guild Wars 2

Saint Scarlet.2906:

great to see you guys know tactics and how the game works and don’t just use numbers(oh wait, thats just what you do).

thats why this match up is boring; we’re basically braindead zombie steamrolling the maps

I was reading this when I realised I’d not watched any of ZP’s latest or any cyanide and happiness for ages, but before I go and laugh sporadically for half an hour, saint scarlet don’t try to act all better than us, I saw Piken Pug blobs 4-omega golem rush PvD 3 keeps in deso borders all with WP when we had hardly anyone to defend on line even had I’d raised the alarm, you do it too.

Yeah I was in the defending Omega golems all 3 times, because even though it was hopeless to defend, never stop not giving up O_O

If being stuck on a tower trying to take it for 2 hours is steamrolling i’d like to know what slow play for you is. Hell you could have capped the whole of Kodash’s 3rd in EB quicker than it took to take 1 tower.

If you mean yesterday during the day, you had plenty of people on they were just in the wrong place. We were outmanned in EB capping your stuff while you lost the keeps in your own border, try communicating better(we all suffer from bad communication sometimes).

Saint Scarlet.2906:

If being stuck on a tower trying to take it for 2 hours is steamrolling i’d like to know what slow play for you is. Hell you could have capped the whole of Kodash’s 3rd in EB quicker than it took to take 1 tower.

ye we capped kodash keep defended by 2 ppl so we left it to kodashs and attacked piken side where was some ressistance

Yaro.3251:

“The Slavs: Buka – little evil creature that lives in the closet of a child’s room or under the bed. Can only bee seen by children, and the children are who suffer from it, as Buka likes to attack them at night – grab the legs and drag under the bed or in the closet (its den). Buka is afraid of the light exposure which is fatal to it, and of the adults starting to believe in it, since if they do, they won’t have problems dealing with it.”

best definition ever thx for the nice read!

Saint Scarlet.2906:

If being stuck on a tower trying to take it for 2 hours is steamrolling i’d like to know what slow play for you is. Hell you could have capped the whole of Kodash’s 3rd in EB quicker than it took to take 1 tower.

great; use an example of an event i wasnt even at to try to devalue my opinion
whilst i was playing we were literally steamrolling everything (we moved to EB because we had all three of the borderlands); it was pathetic (not that im saying kodash/piken are bad servers; its just deso has a strong night-time force from fighting viz all the time, whilst piken/kodash seem to have very few people online at that time – during day time you probably put up a good fight, but your night time forces are a lot lot lot weaker than desos)

… also why did the kodash who were defending redBL garri (a few hours ago) leave the golems in there when it was clear they didnt have the numbers (there was… 3 or 4 of you?… which was sad because that garri seemed to be sieged up like crazy) to keep us out?…

So the week draws to an end, it was an interesting match up. One side used to fighting tier 1 servers, the other used to guild raids. As for Kodash, well, you put up some valiant defences of your tier 3 keeps and towers in your own borderlands after prime time was over, it’s a shame you lacked numbers throughout the week though.

As a server desolation can learn a lot from piken, the organisation during the battles is unreal, the amount of static fields, immobilizers, and all the other crowd control skills are ridiculous, and utilised so effectively! I doubt we’re ever going to be able to match the melee train that you have though, it seems like 80% of your characters are guardians. I do like how you fight. With that said, I do hope desolation maintains its current ideology, that the server is more important than individual guilds and that we continue to fight together.

The non-primetime was pretty boring this week, our server participation obviously helped us out, I think the fact that we were winning a match up for the first time in months attracted more people to WvW as well.

As for nightcapping, well for a lot of desolation it is just the time they prefer to play guild wars, against vizunah and the other tier 1 servers, at night is when you get the best fun, it’s teams of 30 rather than just mass skill lag that often occurs at prime time. I’m not going to lie, I kind of missed vizunah this week, PvD is very boring and we resorted to strange topics of conversation on teamspeak.

With all things considered though it was an interesting match up, but at the end of the day, we wanted to win and we did that. So nice work everyone on desolation, especially the people who play at night, through the morning, and the early afternoon!

Hi Intigo,
nice having you notice and insult us. You know, I played with and vs the best RG players in Warhammer over a period of long time. If you want to know something about me, ask Arkedge, Turki, McCrazy, etc. or contact me ingame.

About me/us badtalking here. Well it is true, that I went completely vocal about people blobbing us and persecuting us forever. I have seen your videos long time ago. Props for that. Now I bet you will know the difference between “walking with giants” vs uplevelled VZ pugs or a 25+ man guildraid. One is easy, the other is getting CC-ed to hell.
I might have gone to far calling your GvG thingy grotesque and ridiculous, but is is the way I feel. I have huge respect for Mr. Sock and plenty of former RG players as I know what they can/did pull off on the field.

But honestly, most GvG players wont even know what they are doing there without a strong leader telling them. With so many effects, CC and Aoe flying around, it is nearly impossible to really anticipate a move or counter it but very macroscopical. A macroscopical reaction does not really require independent decisions of 25 players, but of one, their leader.
Your (RG) difference and what made you so strong in my eyes was, that you were also great solo/smallscale players overall and were able to act independently from the leaders orders, making them the frame and you guys the painting in it. You could say this for probably nobody else.

About getting vocal and/or rude in here, well try to put yourself in my shoes. I have been a roamer/smallscaler in my entire MMORPG life and no maps besides DaoC ever were such a good founding to do this than in GW2. But the meta is awfully different, and putting everybody into blobs, as we share it with easymoders and PvEers with no interest for fights. It is huge aoe and CC with huge numbers of players what is near to impossible to counter and /or outlast for a group from 3-7. Now getting steamrolled every single day by mostly under average casuals (no offense intended) that will jump/laugh/teabag you and get vocal in the forums about how easily they killed you barely outnumbering (tunnel vision, you never see the ppl behind you) makes you boil pretty bad.
When you fight servers that do not really have anything beneath 20+ and two roamrsgroups of 10+ that never get far from the mainzerg, that boiling might climax into an eruption. For this I apologize.
But when you from RG farm other teams, people stay mostly polite and give you props.

Smallscalers are different to that. When we kill a team that considers itself good, they will always get and attitude, invent excuses or simply insult and say we were over 9000 and suck so much

It is always the same. Even though you think different, I consider us to be a quite good team with some of the best players that I had the blessing to play with (Vashury/Pfefferkuchenpferd e.g.). Now we get killed sometimes when we already kited a zerg using all cooldowns to escape and get engaged by a second group we cross or sometimes by the first few thieves and warriors that catch us one by one while kiting a huge zerg with necros and rangers already harassing and debuffing us.
Of course those ppl most time well be happy they killed us, as I know and they know that we farmed them on the same scale (not bragging, simply what I see) and they want revenge. Habeas. But exactly those people later on will come here to the forum and pull that out on us how they merely ounumbering or even being 1 less farmed us so hard, wenn we were spread in the wind, off CDs and 50% hp.

I dont want do blame anyone, this is the internet and I am a tro/ll and a flamer myself. But expect me to react to that, sometimes under the belt. Because I am a proud and emotional diva and I hate dying ingame. Specially when I know I could have outplayed them but got steamrolled and emoted afterwards.

Now that you know how I feel in my shoes you can proceed to insult me and everybody here can start flamewars. Or we can agree to disagree in many facts and ignore eachothers occasional rages on this board.

Have a nice weekend and a good reset.

Linguistically Inept.6583:

- also; why was the lord outside of piken EB keep?

Because even our Lords prefer open field combat to cowering in a keep.

genowefapigwa.5769:

Thank you TEQ for nice gvg
You have balls of steel!
o7

Deniara

It;s not offence but we are a little difference server
We are looking for fun not only for points.
Of course you have TEQ, INVI and I saw between blob COIN but…
I hope we meet other servers not Deso next week

I wrote some time ago " Look ate the man with Tag [AFTL] .. It was one of best Pikens’ guilds and now ? where are you now ?:)

Ummm… Please keep your in-correct presumptions to yourself, instead of coming on here and having a ‘Brain Fart.’ This thread is already littered with enough rubbish as it is, with no cleaning service within site.

Dawdler.8521:

Linguistically Inept.6583:

- also; why was the lord outside of piken EB keep?

Because even our Lords prefer open field combat to cowering in a keep.

but the rest of your players were hiding on/behind the walls? leaving the lord to die, so heartless

Linguistically Inept.6583:

but the rest of your players were hiding on/behind the walls? leaving the lord to die, so heartless

And if people had come out and help you’d have complained that they interfered an honorable duel between the 50 guys and the Lord.

Pfff, some people are never happy.

Linguistically Inept.6583:

Dawdler.8521:

Linguistically Inept.6583:

- also; why was the lord outside of piken EB keep?

Because even our Lords prefer open field combat to cowering in a keep.

but the rest of your players were hiding on/behind the walls? leaving the lord to die, so heartless

Rest of players at that time ? They just sleep in bed xD

Dawdler.8521:

Linguistically Inept.6583:

but the rest of your players were hiding on/behind the walls? leaving the lord to die, so heartless

And if people had come out and help you’d have complained that they interfered an honorable duel between the 50 guys and the Lord.

Pfff, some people are never happy.

oh im unhappy with the match up and the number inbalance at night, not how youve been playing (it was supposed to be a joke… im a bit…sigh… so much brain farting… humour… failed…challenged…. something), my wvw playtime has been very dull aside from a few rare occassions
… but the…. ummm… word…. jist… feeling… something… i got from

Because even our Lords prefer open field combat to cowering in a keep.

was that you were… oh… implying… that your players prefer open field combat… but, they werent (and rightly so; they wouldve been slaughtered; we had a que in EB because – as mentioned before – every borderland was fully blue, so we greatly outnumbered you)

… i think i need to sleep… or coffee… ill go coffee

Dear Piken,

I’d like to thank you for the glorious matchup this week. Personally for me and EXG, it has been very refreshing. We ran tagless most of the week, running around with 20 ~ 35 member group picking fights. It wasn’t always easy (props GH, FG, SPRT, GG) but we had a blast!

Being used to the endless blobbing for the past months, where running around in a blob myself was boring and doesn’t reflect the trill of WvW. But this week has been different, something I longed for since a long time and you guys provided that!

Thanks for the fun, the learning curve, the awesome battles. Definitely going to miss this

Thanks for the matchup, guys. I met great players on both opposing servers and had a blast fighting them in smaller groups or duels. Special mentions to [ZOMB] and [uMAD], you guys know, what you`re doing.

Good luck for the next match with hopefully more challenging opponents coverage wise (no pun, just to make your nightcrew happy).

Best regards

I think we just have increased numbers at night when it is “weaker” opponent. Weaker meaning they have less numbers at certain times of the day/night. When facing Viz we rarely had 40 ppl in 1 place.

Hopefully we get again some opponents that are not walking lootbags after reset. This week certainly showed what real strenght we have left and how much we have to improve (talking about fighting skills). Seeing less wxp trains, with all ppl on the map in 1 place, and more of 20-ish groups of players running and coordinating attacks from different sides would be really nice.

Gl to Piken and Kodash in your next matches (maybe we meet again, who knows)

Darkened.4076:

genowefapigwa.5769:

Thank you TEQ for nice gvg
You have balls of steel!
o7

Deniara

It;s not offence but we are a little difference server
We are looking for fun not only for points.
Of course you have TEQ, INVI and I saw between blob COIN but…
I hope we meet other servers not Deso next week

I wrote some time ago " Look ate the man with Tag [AFTL] .. It was one of best Pikens’ guilds and now ? where are you now ?:)

Ummm… Please keep your in-correct presumptions to yourself, instead of coming on here and having a ‘Brain Fart.’ This thread is already littered with enough rubbish as it is, with no cleaning service within site.

Nice photo, but what kind of insult are you talking about ?
http://www.troll.me/images/thumbs-up-jesus-says/you-mad-bro-come-at-me.jpg

Thanks for GvG too [TEQ] from Deso!
Here is a little movie from the event :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceEoLl3pxeU

Coarr.3286:

Yaro.3251:

“The Slavs: Buka – little evil creature that lives in the closet of a child’s room or under the bed. Can only bee seen by children, and the children are who suffer from it, as Buka likes to attack them at night – grab the legs and drag under the bed or in the closet (its den). Buka is afraid of the light exposure which is fatal to it, and of the adults starting to believe in it, since if they do, they won’t have problems dealing with it.”

best definition ever thx for the nice read!

I knew you would love it!
Cheers

I wanna thank too for this great matchup this week. It was very refreshing for us to win no matter how we did it! Those who don’t like coverage/capping thingy, I’m sorry I don’t like it either that much but it can’t be helped :/ For our night/morning crew: GZ you did it! We won thanks to you guys. When was the last time we won? Cannot remember!

Unfortunately I had to work a lot this week and didn’t get to play that much. kitten , just when our opponent servers were this great to play :/ The time I spent there was fun.

We even had one GvG planned for Tuesday and thanks to Anet and their patch it got canceled. A bunch of amateurs no more no less. Thanks to [VII] anyway for trying it out and being great guys.

I respect PS very much, they have HUGE primetime force. Not just quantity but quality. A lot of top guilds there to fight. Unfortunately we got to fight you only few times. Thanks to Kodash too, always a good server to play against.

Hopefully cya soon!

Zumy.6318:

Now that you know how I feel in my shoes

Now that you vented, and believe me I know how you feel though I do not run smallscale much, I have a question:

What is it that restricts your team from going ahead and trying to recruit some more members to double in size (if you are 5-7, to, say, 10-15)?

With 15 if your skill level is really what you say it is (no pun, I just never bumped into you you in the field in smallscale so I don’t have a ground to judge), you would be able to take on most of the WvW challenges or at least stand on your own against lot of blobs except hugest ones. And if you are matched up against non-blobbing server or have no blobs around, just split back to two-three of your usual 4-7-man setups.

I honestly don’t get it, is anything more than 7 not fun for you somehow? I mean, presuming all your team mates are at your or higher skill level and you know them and synergize with them well.

congratulation to deso you deserve the win, thx to piken for the challenge.

Hehe thanks for all the solo fights in Deso BL Pikens, VII Ranger, INC Necro gave best fights, rest died pretty easy hehe. Warrior buffs are <3

@Yaro

Because upwards of 10ppl, it feels to zergy. And fighting against 20ppl even with 10 is no fun either, because there is too much AE flying around.
Personal opinion: I just don´t like it.

Dela.2479:

@Yaro

Because upwards of 10ppl, it feels to zergy. And fighting against 20ppl even with 10 is no fun either, because there is too much AE flying around.
Personal opinion: I just don´t like it.

I understand there may be personal preferences regarding enemy numbers like “too much of enemy AoE around” etc, but isn’t that just more challenge? I mean, one would think that it presents a challenge for personal and team positioning skills that would be fun to take on.

As someone whose opinion I value very high (and who has great skills across the board from 1v1 to leading raids) said, there’s about 10 buttons to press just in right time in this game. That’s not something only a top-notch player can achieve at the decent level, so positioning is at least 50% of the skill in exceptionally dynamic GW2 PvP.

Another thing is that scale brings other unique challenges regarding team build composition, coordination and synergy. That’s all is so fun to try and excel in.

Finally, there’s a case to try and find just what is a minimum number of players in your team that is needed to make it self-sufficient on WvW meaning you woudn’t really care what enemy is throwing at you and even if you wipe, you can say to yourself “we didn’t run away half the map, we fought great andsurvived long enough to take x times more of them with us. That was a great fight even though in the end we’ve lost to those hordes”

idk what you guys talking about here… piken BL was the biggest blob i have ever seen. we started playing as guilds on friday but the blob we met there created by piken guilds was unplayable. we had to go viz style to counter it.

really disappointed with this week play style by piken. on the bright side, you have better blobs then vizunah. keep up the good work. if you teach vizunah your blob techniques, we are all kittened.

Ins.7139:

Hehe thanks for all the solo fights in Deso BL Pikens, VII Ranger, INC Necro gave best fights, rest died pretty easy hehe. Warrior buffs are <3

Ugh man that was so embarassing, I forgot I was no longer in my signet build and only realised when I popped signet of stone wondering why the hell I was taking so much damage. Just stood there and took it…

Was good fight though Insane regen warrior.

Yaro.3251:

Dela.2479:

@Yaro

Because upwards of 10ppl, it feels to zergy. And fighting against 20ppl even with 10 is no fun either, because there is too much AE flying around.
Personal opinion: I just don´t like it.

I understand there may be personal preferences regarding enemy numbers like “too much of enemy AoE around” etc, but isn’t that just more challenge? I mean, one would think that it presents a challenge for personal and team positioning skills that would be fun to take on.

As someone whose opinion I value very high (and who has great skills across the board from 1v1 to leading raids) said, there’s about 10 buttons to press just in right time in this game. That’s not something only a top-notch player can achieve at the decent level, so positioning is at least 50% of the skill in exceptionally dynamic GW2 PvP.

Another thing is that scale brings other unique challenges regarding team build composition, coordination and synergy. That’s all is so fun to try and excel in.

Finally, there’s a case to try and find just what is a minimum number of players in your team that is needed to make it self-sufficient on WvW meaning you woudn’t really care what enemy is throwing at you and even if you wipe, you can say to yourself “we didn’t run away half the map, we fought great andsurvived long enough to take x times more of them with us. That was a great fight even though in the end we’ve lost to those hordes”

In this scale it is often like this: get hit by random CC, pop stunbreaker, get the next random cc half a second later. Also downstate: You down someone, 2 sec later he´s up again because 5 people rezzed him. I could write lots of other arguments, but to be honest, I dont´t want to atm. So lets just keep it at personal preference ;D

Erro.2784:

Ins.7139:

Hehe thanks for all the solo fights in Deso BL Pikens, VII Ranger, INC Necro gave best fights, rest died pretty easy hehe. Warrior buffs are <3

Ugh man that was so embarassing, I forgot I was no longer in my signet build and only realised when I popped signet of stone wondering why the hell I was taking so much damage. Just stood there and took it…

Was good fight though Insane regen warrior.

i missed all the fun