Guild Wars 2

Wolfheart.1938:

Anyho, what’s gonna happen after S1 ends?

I really hope the end of the season will bring the tryhard style of playing to an end, for all of the servers included, so that we can all have more fun without being offensive at each other (either here or ingame).

Gensokyo.1528:

so you are telling me piken didnt have a really bad opinion of sfr before league due to our forum warriors? i meant you disliked us on week one and hated us after week 5

Sorry if this is a little harsh but I don’t think that most of the people in Piken have any feelings at all about SFR as a server – at least pretty much noone was speaking badly about SFR in teamspeak or the forums. Some might be annoyed by the relatively higher amount of griefers in SFR after the league started (especially compared to SFR some weeks/months ago that was really cool to fight against) or by what happened during the Riverside matchup but those things can be forgotten really fast.

That annoyance might make us focus SFR objectives more than usual but it won’t stay for long – after all, the opinion people from Piken have for SFR is strictly based on the way SFR people behave and I can’t say I have seen more SFR people behaving badly in this matchup than “normal”.

Jayne.9251:

Yep, that guy came from Deso and apparently has a special love for you guys, lol. I haven’t seen him on maps in nearly two weeks, but it could be we were on different maps and he doesn’t tag up anymore

this appears to be a problem aswell half of deso transfer to piken and bring their past grudges with them and they all transfered just after we destroyed them in a matchup with kodash was one of the most boring matchups ever deso completely gave up(when i say half of deso im not referring to dvg as you guys seem to assume i said half of deso not one guild of deso)

Did other ex Desolation players join Piken in big numbers? I can only think of DVG, OP (which was part of DVG) and War (who seem really cool and don’t really voice any grudge at all). Out of guildless people I have only seen two that I can recognize from my time back on Deso, both of them casual players that don’t really care about what server they fight against that just saw that DVG left Deso and followed us to Piken.

While back there, by the way, most of Deso’s players had nothing against SFR. On the contrary, we enjoyed it when you managed to dethrone Vizunah, even if it was only for a little time. Having just one server on the top spot for so long was a little boring.

I dunno the tryhard style makes my ingame experience more fun, while the forums here have generally been lame season or not. Then again, efficient PPT-play brings scouting (as in, stay half an hour running on the walls of Hills), ghost-capping and general blobbing which are things I’m not too fond of.

But I meant to ask if Arenanet had officially announced their plans going forward.

And to add to your other point, I can only say that some players felt Piken preferred attacking us even before s1, thus the deduction that you don’t like us. For example I remember many evenings with SFRJ (curious name lol) always on our kitten.

But I’m not pointing fingers, I know this feeling doesn’t generally reflect the battlefield and when it does it’s probably because we suck at the defending. 1 year+ of WvW still hasn’t taught me were the blasted siege weapons go

aries.6548:

Chmod.4391:

Ofunk.8097:

I’m a just a simple Vizunah player and I want to congratulate SFR for his second place, it’s truly and definitely the second best European server !

And of course I’m really proud that you share your place with the other best second european server, Jade Sea.

They’re also French, it’s really amazing we have 2 french servers on the 2 first places, cheers ! and I hope we’ll have a lot of good fights until the end of the week

Ofunk
[ROAR] Katy Perry Fan Club

Jade Sea is only here because of the matchups, piken square should have been before JS.
Poor PS, they were doomed before the league started.

As the only Server Piken had to fight SRF and VZ 6 times over these 7 weeks while Jade Sea faced them only 3 times. How can such unfair matchups considered to be a frame for a competitive Contest and I am sure we are not the only example. I would really appreciate an answer from a Developer about this.

JS faced to SFR 2 times, VS 1 time and Piken 1 time. Top3 on 4 matchs. And only 1 match against “lower” opponent (JS/Kodash/AR).
RS and ER were 4th and 5th before the season, remember that… So, basically, 6 matchs against stronger servers than JS, before the league.
And what about SFR? 3 hard matchs only, including one with Piken/RS. If JS have lost against SFR/ER, it would have been the same…

JS hasn’t an “easy” way. Piken just had the hardest way of all servers, in this gold league. Piken deserves top 3, that’s true. But maybe only top3 must have “easy” way, never face each other, and others servers must lose all the time… Or like NA, a gold league just for VS/SFR/Piken…

Oh, sorry.

I’ve read that they plan to move back to the old glicko rating system for some time and then start the second season in some time. They haven’t announced when that will be but the way I read was “not before February”. I don’t have a link though.

You might want to know that the general idea on Ts during the first three days of the first matchup was that we should focus Vizunah. Then it became obvious that we can’t beat them and tried to get the best position possible for our server, meaning we had to focus SFR. Combine it with the fact that SFR seemed to be lacking order, with way too many pve players getting achievements, our hand was practically forced. It was either getting farmed by angry Vizunah armies or holding our PPT acceptably high by focusing a little more on SFR. Even then, though, one the finest moments of the matchup was when we tried – and succeeded – to take a waypointed hills keep full of siege and omega golems from Vizunah. It’s not like we just like attacking you people.

SFRJ tends to attack strong opponents, especially during their open raids. Take that as a compliment, not as an act of hate.

chriskin.3298:

SFRJ tends to attack strong opponents, especially during their open raids. Take that as a compliment, not as an act of hate.

i know this to be true of SFRJ they play for fun and fights anything i say of piken is not referring to them i know they attack servers without bias

Gensokyo.1528:

UnknownRH.4592:

Gensokyo.1528:

Troma.3250:

We never used Piken like a tool, we just do our job. We focus you, they choose what they want. If the third server was another, we would do the same

was exactly the same with sfr in our matchup against piken in week 5 we purely focused them and riverside was free to do what they wished that they attacked piken was their own choice we didnt care what they did but you also accuse us of double teaming piken in week 5. Week 6 was a bit different though we only started focusing jade sea on the last few days of the week despite what everyone seems to think everyone seems to forget how we built a wp inside elonas eb keep and flipped their garri almost every single day at prime, we were forced to make jade sea come third in that matchup due to how the league works but no one in the server even had that goal in mind until the last few days of the matchup just like how you now want us in third place so that jade sea can come second you are playing the league in the exact same way

Well Piken never accused anyone for double teaming and it is understood as double focus and general strategy. What i do not understand is why SFR hate Piken because of week 1. When in week 5 RS decided to focus Piken we never had an exchange of rage with RS due to that. they are simply doing what they can.

thats because piken already disliked sfr from before the league which is prob explains the behaviour in week one we just reaffirmed this hatred and made it stronger in week 5 which made you focus on us and not riverside. We didnt blame viznunah in week 1 either because we understood why they focused us piken should have understood why we focused them in week 5 but yet they vowed revenge on us after it and that is displayed in this matchup also some piken did accuse us of double teaming them in week 5 matchup just like some sfr are now 10 people posting on forums dont represent an entire 1000 man wvw community though sfr seem to be the only server that understands this

Week 1 we never even knew what we were going to do mate. To remind you of the facts on reset SFR was leading Piken on second place and VS on third in terms of PPT. The night cap of SFR failed badly against VS. SFR and Piken both woke up the next morning with VS ticking around 400 and with all occupied keeps at T3. You did not focus VS properly in that match up and expected us to poke the PPT beast. That is why I always ask is there really a reason to hate Piken so much. We did all we could. Remove Piken from that Match and put any other server there and you will see the result will be the same. RS is not even near the podium and their behaviour in week 5 was not intentional. It was what they could make out of the situation at best. If we had been winning in terms of PPT I am sure RS would have been heavily focusing SFR in that match as well. So yeah even if our servers may have differences and and a bit of rivalry it could still remain healthy and not become some kind of crap talk. I am not saying that you Gensokyo are talking crap. You are just a forum warrior like me. But the problem is you are so much convinced that Piken did it on purpose and I disagree with that. Right now dont you see if we dont land 2nd in this match up we will loose the podium position. We are fighting for it tbh. We deserve that and have every right to be there because we fought one of the hardest matchups in this league and still tried to stay positive about it. I dont know why VS focus you more than us but if you were in VS border last night even SFR guys would confirm that Piken was fighting both servers. Yeah no one went to VS garri to cap it and we both know the reason for that. Hell SFR and VS even tried to spawn camp us but was not possible to do that for long. Not saying it happened at the same time but on 2 different occassions.

PS: I am from SFRJ (Even I dont know what the tag means hehe) but the guild name is Balkan Legion.

On another note it was nice to see VS and SFR fight us on open fields last night on VS Border. We started with a guild raid but after some fights Iddq decided to go full blob mixed with other guilds and VS as always fight it with full force or dont fight at all strategy forced us to make a blob of our own to keep up the fun. Overall it was a very fun night and a bit exhausting for our commanders. I hope the same fighting spirit remains till the end of the matchup.

Epic defense of Lowlands keep on EB this morning!

Keep it up SFR!

Troma.3250:

Also saw the commander Beasty Kenchi, the pink hair AR guild charr. We know he never surrender and it’s nice

Just curious mate, how do u know my ingame nick
Also some of your scouts whisperd me in game n stalked my team around in EB today

Thanks for an awesome week, Finally we are the one who gets hunt down n don’t have to chase our enemies.

Btw, i have a feeling you guys don’t like my pink haired charr
I get focus fired so hard with and without tag, even when i’m roaming a whole zerg/blob can chase me 5min :p

Cheers n keep the fire up // Beasty Kenchi

DaveVN.5987:

Troma.3250:

Also saw the commander Beasty Kenchi, the pink hair AR guild charr. We know he never surrender and it’s nice

Just curious mate, how do u know my ingame nick
Thanks for an awesome week, Finally we are the one who gets hunt down n don’t have to chase our enemies.

Btw, i have a feeling you guys don’t like my pink haired charr
I get focused fired so hard with and without tag, even when i’m roaming a whole zerg/blob can chase me 5min :P

Cheers n keep the fire up // Beasty Kenchi

lol well now we know why u get focused so much it isnt the commander tag its the pink hair

This is the type of thing beasty is talking about, when 6-8 of us roamers try to take a camp and vizunah notice…. =D

Maybe time for a makeover beasty =P

Would it be too weird to ask why there is a charr in " Asuran Rebels "?

chriskin.3298:

Would it be too weird to ask why there is a charr in " Asuran Rebels "?

It’s my toon for commanding, if not u will find me on asura mesmer or warrior
All of us have asuras but sometimes we need another class in the “raid” n our members happends to have a none asura in that class

You will see us runing only asura raids sometimes

Please tell me you have a video or screenshot of that. PLEASE

The best are Asuran Mesmer raids… 10 asura mesmers have been mistaken for a 40 blob before =D

btw: AR would love to do some small scale guild duels

1-10 maybe 15 if we have players online n not busy irl
would love to do some 5 vs 5 if possible.

Contact person: Beasty Kenchi
Mail or whisper me in game.
Asuran Rebels from SFR , Scout Rroaming Support Guild

Piken community, what the puppy (heh) are we waiting for? We NEED to start a guild like theirs. I will gladly get another (10th, sigh…) character slot just to make an asura mesmer.

Just imagine us making a guild like that and fighting against you guys. 10v10, all asura mesmers.

Heya guys.

For the pevepe.net admins: 2 Pikeners whispered me ingame. I won’t say their name (matter of respect) but i have full confidence in one of them. He told me SFR guys came on some Piken guild forums (like 10) and made a proposal: If they rally SFR in the grand final, they would full focus Jade Sea. They also offered some gold to commanders. All the Piken guilds refused, without exceptions.

A nice french guy from Piken, a commander too, came on french forums and confirmed it too. He has no reason to lie, as i see no interest in it. If the Pikeners that received the SFR offer want to talk about it, it would be very nice. I was not surprised, because i know you guys, some of you want the fall of VS and would use any technic to do it. I have to remember you that you even payed RICH to come here for example.

@Beasty: a SFR guy told us your name here on Vizunah, you are known as “Pink hair” (Cheveux roses). When i came back in late September after my pause, they told me a Pink hair charr from AR guild was doing a great job, never stopping (ok i heard 1 or 2 ragequit but very rare) and never giving up. They said you were capable of leading many hours without stopping, and that you were a danger. This is the difference with the big mouths of the forum: You have been known ingame for some particular things, not because you say the bigger taunt on thoses badlands.

When i saw you in garrison, your charr almost alone while other guys were dead, i couldn’t resist to tell GCK CHARGE to you, it’s the minimum i could do. I hope anyway you are not one of thoses commanders that group VS guys to insult, or say xenophobic/insult VS like i heard. The experience of french guys on SFR, after leaving Arborea, confirmed me some things; there is lot of “Anti-Vizunism” on your TS and map chat. Not everyone of course, but it’s sad.

So Heya to you mister “Cheveux Rose” and be sure GCK will always charge at your sight.

@ troma : stuff like that is cheating in my eye’s but it would be better if you talk to kresh in private about it. If that doesn’t work then go public…

We are having it hard to rebuild SFR after first week. Now the server is just some small guilds and pugs. Stuff like this only fuels our forum warriors who we are trying to kill but like this , it’s going to be a long way :’(

Nice trolling in our Lions Arch:
“Canadian Vizunah-Piken Square ALLIANCE RECRUITS: Tired of being second?^ Join Vizunah to nightcap seafarest towers/keeps during the night!!! Only for CANADIANS”

Get your kitten on the battlefield.

chriskin.3298:

Piken community, what the puppy (heh) are we waiting for? We NEED to start a guild like theirs. I will gladly get another (10th, sigh…) character slot just to make an asura mesmer.

Just imagine us making a guild like that and fighting against you guys. 10v10, all asura mesmers.

there are events/guilds in planning. just to have some fun, but we respect the Piken players that want to play fully for points during the league, so keep an eye on our forum to see when stuff like that is going to happen after the league ended.

Oh these are really nice news, thanks

We did do a necro zerg some time back in EB. Holly hell it was a lag fest. And those were the times when skill lag was always the issue. Every necro was running with their minion builds. It was awesome to see that necro zerg of ours. Whoever the enemy was at the time did not even know what to do with us and we did cap SM hehe.

Troma.3250:

So Heya to you mister “Cheveux Rose” and be sure GCK will always charge at your sight.

I will make sure i get some decoy charrs with pink hair

I can confirm SFR would never pay Pikens commanders gold to give up a fight against us just to let us win. SFR has always been bloodthirsty for hard fights to improve.
We were hoping they would focus Viz if we keep focusing you too, but they didn’t.
We thought if we focus Piken then Viz would focus Pikens too, because they are the weakest one in our Match Up for easy points, but sadly you guys didn’t :p

So yeah, you see it feels like a “double teaming” when you “avoiding” fights with each other, so our players are crying :P
We have ALOT of bad loosers, sadly but true.
We have alot ppl who don’t mind you double focus us at all
We enjoyd the whole week with all the fights we don’t have to jump map to find enemies or scream on ts “kitten they jumped map after getting wiped 2times!!!”?

I have to thank you all for it, we may lose all the WTJ players who invaded our server to just leech or thought they would get an easy “win”, we can allready feel the queue different is much shorter n almost back to normal 5-15min at prime. (not EB)
Now our old guilds can come back and we may get some new guilds too.
Ready for another blast and a lot of action
( you may understand what we are trying to do )

I Really apologize for all that anti-viz rumors, we are just trolling on teamspeak about canadians, double teaming, and all the anti-vizunah talk. (some ppl are just to serious)
You friends or whoever heard it n belived in it, got trolled
We actually LOVE to fight Vizunah, the only Server with coverage and can give SFR a fight any hour of the day

I played on Blackgate in NA too and their rivals said the same thing, alot of troll post about we were hired guns, got paid 15k gold!! n then afford to pay our enemies commanders to double team SoR n JQ.. if gold were that easy to make :P

@ Chris , hey mate just whisper me in game and we can set up an only asura group duels 5 vs 5 or 10 vs 10

Keep the fire and all the figths up, I haven’t had so much fun for a long time <3

thanks all for this last match-up !
very nice and challenging fights versus sfr and piken !
we are all very tired on Vizu now, long nights, lot of investments (gold, time …), i guess a lot of commanders/scouts/players will sleep all week-end !
/bow to all

necrotic kisses from vizunah

Troma.3250:

SFR guys came on some Piken guild forums (like 10) and made a proposal…

If it’s on forums, it’s surely easy to come up with physical proof then? Screenshot or it didn’t happen and it all just gossip “he said, she said”…

All the %s of internationals, proposal me this, double-team alliance me that so far in this thread is only serving to fuel the drama here but possibly with NO truth in it.

Get some facts on the table; so far there’s only been the actions of each part in-game that has been speaking for itself.

DaveVN.5987:

I will make sure i get some decoy charrs with pink hair

Forget Asuran Rebels, next is Platina Charrs, 10 pink-haired charr mesmers.

@ Dondarrion: You obviously don’t read that well but i will say it again, all evidence was given to your alliance team. What they do with it is up to them. As far as Piken is concerned it’s over and done with. As for attacking Troma over an issue SFR caused Piken, there is no need for it. Troma is one of the most respected and upstanding guys on these forums. If you still have issue with it i suggest you ask your alliance leaders not other servers.

Jayne.9251:

Gensokyo.1528:

UnknownRH.4592:

Gensokyo.1528:

Troma.3250:

We never used Piken like a tool, we just do our job. We focus you, they choose what they want. If the third server was another, we would do the same

was exactly the same with sfr in our matchup against piken in week 5 we purely focused them and riverside was free to do what they wished that they attacked piken was their own choice we didnt care what they did but you also accuse us of double teaming piken in week 5. Week 6 was a bit different though we only started focusing jade sea on the last few days of the week despite what everyone seems to think everyone seems to forget how we built a wp inside elonas eb keep and flipped their garri almost every single day at prime, we were forced to make jade sea come third in that matchup due to how the league works but no one in the server even had that goal in mind until the last few days of the matchup just like how you now want us in third place so that jade sea can come second you are playing the league in the exact same way

Well Piken never accused anyone for double teaming and it is understood as double focus and general strategy. What i do not understand is why SFR hate Piken because of week 1. When in week 5 RS decided to focus Piken we never had an exchange of rage with RS due to that. they are simply doing what they can.

thats because piken already disliked sfr from before the league which is prob explains the behaviour in week one we just reaffirmed this hatred and made it stronger in week 5 which made you focus on us and not riverside. We didnt blame viznunah in week 1 either because we understood why they focused us piken should have understood why we focused them in week 5 but yet they vowed revenge on us after it and that is displayed in this matchup also some piken did accuse us of double teaming them in week 5 matchup just like some sfr are now 10 people posting on forums dont represent an entire 1000 man wvw community though sfr seem to be the only server that understands this

Lol, I’m sorry, I don’t mean this rudely, but you’re a little nutty eh? Piken hated SFR? What on earth for?

Or are you just trying to further work up your server mates with made up stories?

I can see why some Piken hate SFR, they never could beat them before. It boils inside ppl. League was be a welcome opportunity to get back on them, even if it wasn’t with their own power but a 3rd server, of course that all backfired in week 5 and now in week 7, last chance for Piken to take some shots at SFR before after league when Viz helping them would be a random event rather then planned ahead by ANet.

In the end Piken changed face so much since launch, nothing left of its “100% for the fight 0% for the ppt”- mentality it had when it was created. Just another random place like every server has become.

This league probably will end like this:
1- Vizunah
2- SFR and Jade
3- Piken and Baruch

Without geopolitics and talking about individual performance the league should have finished something like:
1- Vizuna
2- SFR
3- Piken
4- JS & BB (almost equal in performance)

But geopolitics matters in a 1 Vs1 Vs1 match….
There are two good news:
1- More rewards to more people.
2- Jade and Baruch improved a lot during the last weeks, so we will give good fights to the top3 during the second league.

Best,

Haltair, one of the Twelve Shadows

Empyre that may be your view but it’s not the view of the majority on Piken. If i remember correctly you(RG) left Piken because we cared more about the fights than the PPT. Now i don’t think you really have much of a clue whats going on with Piken or you would know the heart of Piken is still what is was when the server 1st started.

Well I can only speak for myself and say that while the forum warriors certainly did provide motivation, I don’t believe there was ever any hate. For me, any ppt motivation was just a personal “you can’t have my stuff!” And prior to the leagues starting, any discussion about SFR centred around strategy and nothing else.

I think many went into the leagues without any great expectations. And you know when there’s no great expectations, there’s just a willingness to get out there and do the best you can without the added pressure of omg we have to win! Heck we looked at the season sked and knew we had the toughest pairings of any server out there, so expecting something different would have been an exercise of frustration.

So while that may motivate other servers, it wasn’t the same on Piken, as far as I saw.

Haltair.3062:

This league probably will end like this:
1- Vizunah
2- SFR and Jade
3- Piken and Baruch

Without geopolitics and talking about individual performance the league should have finished something like:
1- Vizuna
2- SFR
3- Piken
4- JS & BB (almost equal in performance)

But geopolitics matters in a 1 Vs1 Vs1 match….
There are two good news:
1- More rewards to more people.
2- Jade and Baruch improved a lot during the last weeks, so we will give good fights to the top3 during the second league.

Best,

Haltair, one of the Twelve Shadows

I agree with this analysis.
It could also have been this:
1- VS
2- SFR/PS
4- JS/BB

But it is 1vs1vs1, not 1vs1.

I’ll add Kodash in “emerging” servers.

And I hope that my fellows (JS) don’t give up so quickly, in the next game against Piken Square.

Since nobody knows SFRJ tag meaning I’m gonna go ahead and call them SFR Junior

@Troma: are you telling me I’m not famous in VS? I thought I was the nightmare of every green-arrow!

100% agreed with haltair !

necrotic kisses from vizunah

Saint Scarlet.2906:

Empyre that may be your view but it’s not the view of the majority on Piken. If i remember correctly you(RG) left Piken because we cared more about the fights than the PPT. Now i don’t think you really have much of a clue whats going on with Piken or you would know the heart of Piken is still what is was when the server 1st started.

We left because of all the bandwagoners and queue that came with those. Joining Blacktide, noone but CIR playing at EU prime, rising to top of ladder w/o having to play ppt ourselves and on top t3 objectives to defend (so much more fun if you go 25 v zone, no sieged up bs as we see today). The other time we left IIRC to have a first shot at captain america.

The 1st time you left we had no queues apart from EB it wasn’t until you came back and brought 4/5 guilds with you that the queues got out of hand.

Empyre.2531:

Jayne.9251:

Gensokyo.1528:

UnknownRH.4592:

Gensokyo.1528:

Troma.3250:

We never used Piken like a tool, we just do our job. We focus you, they choose what they want. If the third server was another, we would do the same

was exactly the same with sfr in our matchup against piken in week 5 we purely focused them and riverside was free to do what they wished that they attacked piken was their own choice we didnt care what they did but you also accuse us of double teaming piken in week 5. Week 6 was a bit different though we only started focusing jade sea on the last few days of the week despite what everyone seems to think everyone seems to forget how we built a wp inside elonas eb keep and flipped their garri almost every single day at prime, we were forced to make jade sea come third in that matchup due to how the league works but no one in the server even had that goal in mind until the last few days of the matchup just like how you now want us in third place so that jade sea can come second you are playing the league in the exact same way

Well Piken never accused anyone for double teaming and it is understood as double focus and general strategy. What i do not understand is why SFR hate Piken because of week 1. When in week 5 RS decided to focus Piken we never had an exchange of rage with RS due to that. they are simply doing what they can.

thats because piken already disliked sfr from before the league which is prob explains the behaviour in week one we just reaffirmed this hatred and made it stronger in week 5 which made you focus on us and not riverside. We didnt blame viznunah in week 1 either because we understood why they focused us piken should have understood why we focused them in week 5 but yet they vowed revenge on us after it and that is displayed in this matchup also some piken did accuse us of double teaming them in week 5 matchup just like some sfr are now 10 people posting on forums dont represent an entire 1000 man wvw community though sfr seem to be the only server that understands this

Lol, I’m sorry, I don’t mean this rudely, but you’re a little nutty eh? Piken hated SFR? What on earth for?

Or are you just trying to further work up your server mates with made up stories?

I can see why some Piken hate SFR, they never could beat them before. It boils inside ppl. League was be a welcome opportunity to get back on them, even if it wasn’t with their own power but a 3rd server, of course that all backfired in week 5 and now in week 7, last chance for Piken to take some shots at SFR before after league when Viz helping them would be a random event rather then planned ahead by ANet.

In the end Piken changed face so much since launch, nothing left of its “100% for the fight 0% for the ppt”- mentality it had when it was created. Just another random place like every server has become.

Everything will go back to normal once we get done with leagues and people will start playing for fun again. I agree the mentality here was to win even from people who never played for points. Now, if we are at you say Piken could never beat SFR. I ask in terms of what? PPT then it is held to be true (humbly accepted as it is just coverage you are superior at). When it comes to open field tactics and fights we do get lots of opportunities to take out the so called “hate” towards any server we want. It is what we are still best at and hold pride in it.

You take pride in something you can’t prove?

GvG is that way ->

Edit:
Oh and please don’t take this as an attack. It’s almost Christmas so everyone has to be nice to each other I’m sure that a guild named SFR Junior is awesome on the battlefield.

Wolfheart.1938:

You take pride in something you can’t prove?

GvG is that way ->

Edit:
Oh and please don’t take this as an attack. It’s almost Christmas so everyone has to be nice to each other I’m sure that a guild named SFR Junior is awesome on the battlefield.

Indeed soon.
And we hold pride in that we have the most open field fighting oriented guilds. It does not mean always winning fights.

Saint Scarlet.2906:

@ Dondarrion: You obviously don’t read that well but i will say it again, all evidence was given to your alliance team. What they do with it is up to them. As far as Piken is concerned it’s over and done with. As for attacking Troma over an issue SFR caused Piken, there is no need for it. Troma is one of the most respected and upstanding guys on these forums. If you still have issue with it i suggest you ask your alliance leaders not other servers.

Please re-read my statement before you say stupid things like that. I’m not attacking, Troma, I’m asking for proof to backup these claims that SFR tried to buy an alliance with Piken. If asking for proof when standing accused is called attacking, well… I’m well aware Troma’s reputation, that’s not in question here.
In Troma’s post, he addresses pevepe.net admins about Piken players he has great confidence in whispering him the truth of the matter. He’s saying it’s “SFR guys” who made the gold offer, who knows who that could be?? So far, reading Troma’s post over and over, the proof is simply Piken players’ word whispered to Troma. But if SFR have really been posting on several forums, THAT is physical evidence, why is it so difficult to come up with that? Like Troma, I’d welcome those Piken players to speak up and show proof.

And like I wrote, it’s not just this case, but same goes for those SFR guys saying there’s a VizuPiken alliance going on now; please show proof to backup your claim. It’s war, it’s tactics. Vizu had their objectives, Piken had theirs, both want SFR 3rd in match-up, and some SFR people took it badly. I was playing again yesterday and yes, after both Vizu and Piken had driven us back in the Vizu BL, I saw Piken going straight to war and besieging & taking Hills from Vizunah.

2/3 more days of season 1 battles, see you on the battlefield!

@ Troma

OH well, i finally got what you mean

We were well aware about the “double focus” we was about to face in the last matchup and in order to couter that the best solution we comes up with was to force PS in third spot on week 5 in order to let em have the only choice to try beat VZ on week 6-7 in order to improve their rating.

That was discussed internally in SFR and was supposed to be a strategy.

I was personally considering to go ask officially at PS but then i did not and ofc i never offered even a single gold in exchange, but you know lot of guilds from SFR played on PS and vice versa so there should be some contacts between due to the fact most of us know each others.

And tbh even if that was the case i do not see any problem.

Rather i found it very disappointing to see you posting this like it is a “shame for SFR” since you on VZ knows much more than other the “win at any cost” mentality, a way more than us on SFR

What will happen if i come here and start making a list of all the things i saw VZ does in the previous 16 months of GW2 about to win?

Let’s change argument then.

To bury the hatchet, some weeks ago one of your guys proposed me about a 20vs20 Omega Golem fight GvG style, we may be avaible for that in the last day of the matchup, let me know if is possible to organize since we need some days to set things out, PS welcome too if they want to join for a massive 20vs20vs20 fight!

you can contact me in game if you are interested

have a nice day

Kresh

Can you do something to stop this guy. He is emptying Bay on SFR map atm.

http://hpics.li/a8f97ba

ilmau.9781:

@ Troma

OH well, i finally got what you mean

We were well aware about the “double focus” we was about to face in the last matchup and in order to couter that the best solution we comes up with was to force PS in third spot on week 5 in order to let em have the only choice to try beat VZ on week 6-7 in order to improve their rating.

That was discussed internally in SFR and was supposed to be a strategy.

I was personally considering to go ask officially at PS but then i did not and ofc i never offered even a single gold in exchange, but you know lot of guilds from SFR played on PS and vice versa so there should be some contacts between due to the fact most of us know each others.

Your strategy would possibly have worked if it was any other server(not saying other servers would accept), but Piken doesn’t play and organise itself like most other servers. We have tried to tell everyone so many times before, to us the rank and ppt doesn’t really mean a thing to us. it helps us maintain the place we are but we don’t go out trying to get that place. It’s a byproduct of the way we play, which is for the fun of fights.
There was no discussion between Viz and PS, we both were aware of each others likely strategy because we know how the other plays. Neither of us would consider asking the other server for help in any way for the simple reason we respect each other too much to do something so underhanded. We enjoy playing against each other because both servers players are fun to fight and honourable.
Yes we have quite a few guilds that have moved from PS to SFR and vice versa, so we do have quite a few people in contact with each other. Your alliance team has all the info it needs, as far as Piken is concerned you guys will(or not) sort it out, but it’s nothing we’re going to worry about now.

Holsen.9526:

Can you do something to stop this guy. He is emptying Bay on SFR map atm.

http://hpics.li/a8f97ba

Huh, you’ve got one of those guys too eh? We had a guy building troll siege and draining all supply in our EB keep over the weekend. Annoying as hell aren’t they! Sorry I don’t recognize the name, maybe some others do. I think you can just report him for greifing?

Trolls like that are really annoying!

ilmau.9781:

What will happen if i come here and start making a list of all the things i saw VZ does in the previous 16 months of GW2 about to win?

Please do, Kresh, I’m pretty sure it would be quite hilarious.

Even factoring the inventions of raging kids like the Canadians, I’m pretty sure we’ve never paid any “non-EU” guild to come and help us, or we’ve never even thought about offering gold to a server to help us win anything. Not to mention spying on the other servers.
That’s probably where the line is drawn for “sportmanship”, and if it has been crossed by some, it has not been crossed by Vizu.
There may have been some focus on some matchups originating from common goals, but no more than that.

edit : the guy in the screen is obviously French, it’s a shame. too bad he seems to have created that caracter only for trolling purposes (cf. name and guilde name). Please report him !

Considering someone posted a screenshot showing a vizunian, who was well known for griefing on sfr, commanding in vizunah says a lot

Just in case, you won’t earn any point fighting here. Trolls made this place unpleasant for such a long time now than most of us don’t even try or want to post here.

This is what we should all be ashamed of.

Holsen.9526:

Can you do something to stop this guy. He is emptying Bay on SFR map atm.

http://hpics.li/a8f97ba

He is resistance leader. Everybody know that anarchy is opposition to authority.