Guild Wars 2

Gnat.9405:

They mentioned that 2014 will not have a new gear tier introduced. This gives players ample time to create gear significant to design. I would bet that the only content that actually requires PvE ascended gear will be higher level fractals for a very long time. Casuals aren’t participating in that anyway.

Just because someone has time constraints doesn’t mean they don’t also participate in high end, hardcore content. It just means they have very little time to do it in. But since Fractals are designed to be short, they’re perfect for that situation.

Avatara.1042:

Or they could do a weekly cap, instead of daily.

A monthly cap would be even better.
That way people with really irregular playing times (like say, a student) will be able to get enough materials.
But then again…we aren’t talking about time gating a dungeon or an event…they are time gating transforming a T6 material to a T7…Unlike dailies which can take some amount of time, getting a charged quartz takes less than 5 minutes. This kind of time gating isn’t even asking us to play the game, it’s just incredibly annoying.

I hope it will!

Getting charged quartz is just a cheap way to get players to login. Who in their right mind enjoys going to a skill challenge every single day to repeat the same mundane task

RedStar.4218:

Avatara.1042:

Or they could do a weekly cap, instead of daily.

A monthly cap would be even better.
That way people with really irregular playing times (like say, a student) will be able to get enough materials.
But then again…we aren’t talking about time gating a dungeon or an event…they are time gating transforming a T6 material to a T7…Unlike dailies which can take some amount of time, getting a charged quartz takes less than 5 minutes. This kind of time gating isn’t even asking us to play the game, it’s just incredibly annoying.

Why does a cap make a student more or less able to get enough materials? Without a cap the student should be able to get enough materials. The only difference is that everyone else isn’t relegated to putting in the amount of time/effort that the student puts in.

It might be easy to get charged quartz, but I have never made one. Will I be behind by default? I don’t really care anymore. Getting full ascended gear for all my characters is looking like the title for capturing stonemist….. something that will never, ever, happen.

Gnat.9405:

They mentioned that 2014 will not have a new gear tier introduced. This gives players ample time to create gear significant to design. I would bet that the only content that actually requires PvE ascended gear will be higher level fractals for a very long time. Casuals aren’t participating in that anyway.

Lots of generalizations and assumptions there. Labeling people “casuals” and telling them how they play is a bit offensive.

There is also this game mode called WvWvW where players use their PvE gear in a PvP environment. Although the developers have made it clear they do not intend this game type to be as balanced as sPvP, many of the players themselves do in fact want it to have some semblance of balance. Many WVW players consider this mode to be endgame, high-end content, where the best gear is necessary to make sure the playing field is as level as possible. Time gating gear progression is not enjoyable for many WvW players, especially locking the materials behind daily PvE activities.

Time gating is a cheesy way of extending the gear treadmill. For those of us who just want to play the game, especially those with multiple characters (and builds) it kicks the fun factor right in the jimmies.

I had BiS weapons for ALL my characters. Why would I be happy with a downgrade? Especially if it takes months or years to get back to where I was before. How long will it take for me to get all 5 characters ascended weapons for all their various builds? Should I just give up and retire all except the zerker warrior because that is the most efficient stat set for ascended? Too bad that’s the worst build for WvW…..

Well doesn’t look like charged quartz is used, but they added more time gated material instead ><.

Well I haven’t seen anything that takes charged quartz in the livestream, so this thread is over.

Thrashbarg.9820:

Lots of generalizations and assumptions there. Labeling people “casuals” and telling them how they play is a bit offensive.

This is grossly taken out of context; if you read the rest of the thread maybe you wouldn’t feel this way.

Also as far as I know it is possible every day to complete the daily achievement strictly in WvW so most of your post is invalid.

But as players are now saying, charged quartz will not be an issue so the original topic of this thread has been addressed.

I hope we’ve all learned something

Well the materials can be traded, so I am good.

Gnat.9405:

Thrashbarg.9820:

Lots of generalizations and assumptions there. Labeling people “casuals” and telling them how they play is a bit offensive.

This is grossly taken out of context; if you read the rest of the thread maybe you wouldn’t feel this way.

Also as far as I know it is possible every day to complete the daily achievement strictly in WvW so most of your post is invalid.

But as players are now saying, charged quartz will not be an issue so the original topic of this thread has been addressed.

I hope we’ve all learned something

Completely true, there are usually at least 3 WvW specific tasks, plus gathering, and there is usually at least one other task that can be completed without leaving the mists be it Kills, Variety, Veterans, Champions, Events…

Charged Quartz is used as a material… well… kind of. If you want celestial ascended gear, you’ll need an ascended celestial inscription and a component of that is the exotic inscription, which uses the crystals.

timidobserver.7925:

Why does a cap make a student more or less able to get enough materials? Without a cap the student should be able to get enough materials. The only difference is that everyone else isn’t relegated to putting in the amount of time/effort that the student puts in.

Students can have irregular play time. The might be able to play 1 hour/day for a week then nothing for nearly 3 weeks and play all day during the last week-end.

However in the end, if we take charged quartz as an example, it takes less than 5 minutes to launch the game and get it. If you have at least 10 minutes (which anyone can get) isn’t a problem to obtain your charged quartz (as long as you have the necessary materials).

RedStar.4218:

However in the end, if we take charged quartz as an example, it takes less than 5 minutes to launch the game and get it. If you have at least 10 minutes (which anyone can get) isn’t a problem to obtain your charged quartz (as long as you have the necessary materials).

Soon we’ll have few hours of all those “only takes 10 minutes, so it’s nto a problem” daily activities. Not much time left for actual game.

What I gathered from the recent live stream pertaining future Charged Quartz usage and time-gated mats:

Ascended weapon inscriptions will utilize the exotic weapon inscription of that specific stat combo. If true, charged quartz will solely be needed for celestial gear of both exotic and ascended nature.

ANET seems to have made a change in their time-gated mats. Instead of having the raw mat be sellable and the time-gated refined mat account bound, ANET switched it with the new T7. Aside from the T7 mats that can only be obtained by doing various game events, the time-gated refined T7 mat will be sellable/tradeable to players on the TP.

This is a lot better then the first implementation of time-gated mats. Before it didn’t matter how much quartz you bought, you would still be making charged quartz at the same rate as everyone else. Now players that want to obtain those time-gated mats immediately can do so through the TP, and players that don’t have the need to rush have an extra source of income.

They weren’t in the crafting video.

Avatara.1042:

Onkelbubu.3108:

When charged Quarz crystals will be a new ingridient, I want my 45 back which i put into celestial gear + the 45 ectos.

Agreed. Refund on Celestial gear for those who want it should happen. Removing a stat with zero compensation is extremely unfair and a good way to lose what little faith people have left.

Where did you find the information they are ‘removing the stat with zero compensation’?
That’s not accurate at all.
From the page:
“Weapons, armor and trinkets with magic find will become account bound, lose their current stats and will gain the ability to be double-clicked to select one of several stat options depending on the item.”

Please, tell me how that’s zero compensation.

Also, why should anyone be refunded Charged Crystals or Ectos for gear they’ve made, and used or not, had in inventory for possibly a couple months? You wanted it at the time, you made it. You had full knowledge of it’s stats, you had every ability to know how it would affect your playability. There’s no reason at all, especially given the above information on choosing new stats and Account Binding- to get any form of refunded materials. None at all.
You wanted it. You made it. You live with it.