Guild Wars 2

PBag.7450:

You want “Casual-Friendly”? Then maybe SAB isn’t for you.

Mate, I have completed most of the normal achievements and half tribulation mode, I am far from a casual player.

Difference between me and you I am considerate towards most of the player base who are actually far more casual than I am. Did you not wonder why the “Is it too hard?” topic was so long and positive topics rarely filled a single page? Because more people found it too difficult and frustrating. I agree 100% with them, world 2 normal mode was drastically disproportionate to the first world, we never got many topics complaining world one was too easy just tons of topics filled with praise.

It is in Arena Nets best interest to take care of the needs of the many over the needs of the few, without them the game would be a much smaller place.

Instead of wasting time asking for things to revert, nag Josh for a directors cut game mode instead.

AppleHack.7340:

Barabbas.8715:

AppleHack.7340:

Aedelric.1287:

PBag.7450:

People who play games need to start growing up.

And while you are at it get a job and start wearing suits!

Seriously, games are for fun and you have to be a child at heart to enjoy them. This is a game not a job, people play it to mess around, relax and have fun.

Now to the rest, not everyone’s definition of fun is the same. Hard does not equal enjoyable or good content. You want it hard then do things like Tribulation and Liadri, if you found them too easy then perhaps Guild Wars II is not the game for you.

Remeber Guild Wars II was sold on the idea of being -casual friendly-, not ultra hard super elite MLG gameplay. If you bought the game to be tested to your utmost limits, then perhaps you got the wrong game?

Yes, the problem is when they go and nerf the Tribulation Mode like they just did.

Yeah, because adding three check points across two zones is such a major nerf. I even deleted all my TM rewards because now they are worthless. /sarcasm

Or maybe you could do some research before posting and notice that all the nerfs they did to Normal mode also carried over to the Tribulation mode.

Those weren’t nerfs, those were fixes. Those flowers were broke as hell as were many other things. And NONE of that makes TM significantly easier.

Barabbas.8715:

AppleHack.7340:

Barabbas.8715:

AppleHack.7340:

Aedelric.1287:

PBag.7450:

People who play games need to start growing up.

And while you are at it get a job and start wearing suits!

Seriously, games are for fun and you have to be a child at heart to enjoy them. This is a game not a job, people play it to mess around, relax and have fun.

Now to the rest, not everyone’s definition of fun is the same. Hard does not equal enjoyable or good content. You want it hard then do things like Tribulation and Liadri, if you found them too easy then perhaps Guild Wars II is not the game for you.

Remeber Guild Wars II was sold on the idea of being -casual friendly-, not ultra hard super elite MLG gameplay. If you bought the game to be tested to your utmost limits, then perhaps you got the wrong game?

Yes, the problem is when they go and nerf the Tribulation Mode like they just did.

Yeah, because adding three check points across two zones is such a major nerf. I even deleted all my TM rewards because now they are worthless. /sarcasm

Or maybe you could do some research before posting and notice that all the nerfs they did to Normal mode also carried over to the Tribulation mode.

Those weren’t nerfs, those were fixes. Those flowers were broke as hell as were many other things. And NONE of that makes TM significantly easier.

Yes they do and there was nothing wrong with the flowers the only minor problem was that the river was too punishing for normal mode, and it did deserve a nerf but everything was completely fine for TM difficulty. On top of that they made some harder jumps easier and more!

AppleHack.7340:

Barabbas.8715:

AppleHack.7340:

Barabbas.8715:

AppleHack.7340:

Aedelric.1287:

PBag.7450:

People who play games need to start growing up.

And while you are at it get a job and start wearing suits!

Seriously, games are for fun and you have to be a child at heart to enjoy them. This is a game not a job, people play it to mess around, relax and have fun.

Now to the rest, not everyone’s definition of fun is the same. Hard does not equal enjoyable or good content. You want it hard then do things like Tribulation and Liadri, if you found them too easy then perhaps Guild Wars II is not the game for you.

Remeber Guild Wars II was sold on the idea of being -casual friendly-, not ultra hard super elite MLG gameplay. If you bought the game to be tested to your utmost limits, then perhaps you got the wrong game?

Yes, the problem is when they go and nerf the Tribulation Mode like they just did.

Yeah, because adding three check points across two zones is such a major nerf. I even deleted all my TM rewards because now they are worthless. /sarcasm

Or maybe you could do some research before posting and notice that all the nerfs they did to Normal mode also carried over to the Tribulation mode.

Those weren’t nerfs, those were fixes. Those flowers were broke as hell as were many other things. And NONE of that makes TM significantly easier.

Yes they do and there was nothing wrong with the flowers the only minor problem was that the river was too punishing for normal mode, and it did deserve a nerf but everything was completely fine for TM difficulty. On top of that they made some harder jumps easier and more!

No those flowers were garbage. They would throw you off cliffs and sometimes not even activate properly. And if those harder jumps you’re talking about are the water spouts, those weren’t hard to begin with if you had a little patience and timing.

Barabbas.8715:

AppleHack.7340:

Barabbas.8715:

AppleHack.7340:

Barabbas.8715:

AppleHack.7340:

Aedelric.1287:

PBag.7450:

People who play games need to start growing up.

And while you are at it get a job and start wearing suits!

Seriously, games are for fun and you have to be a child at heart to enjoy them. This is a game not a job, people play it to mess around, relax and have fun.

Now to the rest, not everyone’s definition of fun is the same. Hard does not equal enjoyable or good content. You want it hard then do things like Tribulation and Liadri, if you found them too easy then perhaps Guild Wars II is not the game for you.

Remeber Guild Wars II was sold on the idea of being -casual friendly-, not ultra hard super elite MLG gameplay. If you bought the game to be tested to your utmost limits, then perhaps you got the wrong game?

Yes, the problem is when they go and nerf the Tribulation Mode like they just did.

Yeah, because adding three check points across two zones is such a major nerf. I even deleted all my TM rewards because now they are worthless. /sarcasm

Or maybe you could do some research before posting and notice that all the nerfs they did to Normal mode also carried over to the Tribulation mode.

Those weren’t nerfs, those were fixes. Those flowers were broke as hell as were many other things. And NONE of that makes TM significantly easier.

Yes they do and there was nothing wrong with the flowers the only minor problem was that the river was too punishing for normal mode, and it did deserve a nerf but everything was completely fine for TM difficulty. On top of that they made some harder jumps easier and more!

No those flowers were garbage. They would throw you off cliffs and sometimes not even activate properly. And if those harder jumps you’re talking about are the water spouts, those weren’t hard to begin with if you had a little patience and timing.

Flowers weren’t garbage, but facing the right direction is too hard for your average player so yes, they should be removed from NORMAL mode but they were just fine on TM. The jumps they made easier are also on Zone 3 and in my opinion being patient and having timing is a lot harder than just like… running through it don’t you think?

Sera.6539:

I do believe Josh Foreman said somewhere in that large thread that he wants to control the difficulty, and doesn’t want the game engine to dictate that, if possible.

Quoted for truth. I saw the post too.

Seriously, all those who said that “engine problems were a fine difficulty” need to learn more about game designing. A game designer (in other word Josh) usually wants to be the one deciding what is hard, not the lag, the glitch, the collisions issues etc.

That you accomodate to these issues doesn’t make them right in the end, they’re still glitches/bugs you managed to get used to.

I can’t believe a thread like this exists. One of the few good changes to the Super Adventure Box this time it came out was that it had all 3 difficulty settings. From my experience in World 2, the difficulty curve got ridiculously steep in Normal Mode of all places. And I didn’t even run across the bugs that some got.

I really don’t get the people complaining about it being too easy now. You still have Tribulation Mode, which from what I hear is pretty much what you hardcore “it’s too easy if we don’t die in one hit all the time” players wanted. Why are you complaining about changes to Normal Mode? Especially when these changes seem to be towards things that genuinely caused problems?

Sigh. Even when they get their hardcore “kill you all the time” mode, they still aren’t satisfied. I’m beginning to think they really just want everything to be harder just so they can pretend they’re better and look down on the rest of us simply because they can, and boost their own pitiful egos.

AppleHack.7340:

Barabbas.8715:

AppleHack.7340:

Aedelric.1287:

PBag.7450:

People who play games need to start growing up.

And while you are at it get a job and start wearing suits!

Seriously, games are for fun and you have to be a child at heart to enjoy them. This is a game not a job, people play it to mess around, relax and have fun.

Now to the rest, not everyone’s definition of fun is the same. Hard does not equal enjoyable or good content. You want it hard then do things like Tribulation and Liadri, if you found them too easy then perhaps Guild Wars II is not the game for you.

Remeber Guild Wars II was sold on the idea of being -casual friendly-, not ultra hard super elite MLG gameplay. If you bought the game to be tested to your utmost limits, then perhaps you got the wrong game?

Yes, the problem is when they go and nerf the Tribulation Mode like they just did.

Yeah, because adding three check points across two zones is such a major nerf. I even deleted all my TM rewards because now they are worthless. /sarcasm

Or maybe you could do some research before posting and notice that all the nerfs they did to Normal mode also carried over to the Tribulation mode.

He’s saying that the changes can hardly be called nerfs, I mean only world 2-1 feels remotely easier since the whole geyser section got replaced as well as the rapids knockback which was insane to start with. World 2-2 still is unforgiving as ever.

Aerlen.5326:

I’ve got a great idea. The bugs reported in TM? Don’t fix them. At all. Spawning in lava, spawning in spikes.. the ones being reported now.. leave them. It’s supposed to be “hard mode”, right? Leave all the server-client issues and bugs in TM because maybe it’ll shut up the hardcores.

Seriously though, I’m not happy to hear some fixes to NM bled into TM and I don’t even play TM. I want the hardcores to have their content too (and I’m SICK of every time something like this happens, it’s time to call the rest of the playerbase ‘noobs’ in revenge. No. Cut it out. No one wanted TM nerfed. No one. Talk to the Devs about this – no one asked for TM to be changed).

It took around 4 days to gather the feedback and make the changes featured in today’s patch. Yes the bugs suck, but it’s only been a few hours since the patch (assuming you’re talking about the new checkpoint issues). Give it a day or three for a fix, not a few hours.

I never really saw anyone complain about TM (besides the P2W issue and whatnot). It seems like a limitation on the design side to have some NM changes bleed into TM. Perhaps we’ll have an answer later.