Karka Queen event frustration

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Posted by: PolarisNova.3867

PolarisNova.3867

Really sorry to the people who are having a hard time, but if anything, I learnt and adapted quickly to not standing/idling/akitteng in certain places. I learnt a hard lesson, but really I find the idea of Southsun being really dangerous and unpredictable to be part of it’s charm.

I was once caught out by a karka horde and got killed before I could get to the queen, but I could have spawned elsewhere and run round a safe way, the island really isn’t that big.

~Lady Amelia of the House of Rose~

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Posted by: biofrog.1568

biofrog.1568

After the third time trying to get to the Queen Karka fight, I’ve given up, rage-quit, and come onto the forums to complain. I actually don’t know what the Queen Karka fight is like, because I’ve never been able to get past the OUTRAGEOUS hordes of karkas camping the only way to get there since Anet put that new area in with the wall. Only way through. So many karka that as soon as I aggro I am insta-downed and then insta-killed. And this is how it’s intended to be?

Bravo on your awesome troll, whoever designed that.

Hahah it is a huge troll; it’s like saying “Hah! Those of you who want the Queen to appear have to run over to the camp to capture it! But you are the exact same people who will be trapped on the other side of the karka camp and can’t even get to the Queen, while the Akitten people at the Queen spawn will happily partake of the event through doing nothing!”

All that aside, there IS definitely a way to jump around, and I do it every kitten time. When running up the slope to the camp, head to the right-side. You will see a stack of logs, run past and up the slope to a second stack of logs. Jump up this stack, then onto the white pool ledge to the right. You have to make a tricky jump right into a ‘wedge’ that is slightly lower than the rest, the run around the back and make a daring open-fall jump onto the next white pool below then you are home free.

It might look difficult, but it really isn’t. The wedge jump is the only one I might miss now and then

“There’s no lag but what we make.” – biofrog

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Posted by: Michaeas Magister.1589

Michaeas Magister.1589

Had a bit of luck the other day, and was able to study a “retake Steampipe” event up close while it was idle.

I was counting multiple groups of 6-7 L83-84 young karka, alongside a mix of hatchlings, poppers and the odd veteran young karka.

And i have seen a projectile burst of a single such karka eat through 19000-20000 health.

Meaning that getting the aggro of a single such group, could see damage in around 114000 or more. Yes, there is dodge. But as far as i can tell, dodge do not allow you to avoid the whole projectile burst. And with multiple karka firing at once, you are going to get hit no matter what.

Strang thing is that i have also seen the event barely sporting any karka at all, and at level 80 at that.

I wonder if culling is what is tripping us up here, in that both the area inside the camp and outside (perhaps as far as the veteran karka in by the waterfall) are taken into account for scaling.

Also, i have actually seen on more quiet repetitions a smoke/dust plume before karka appear inside the camp. So i suspect that the designers tried to put in a kind of “burrowing” element, but the culling (or what i wonder is some kind of inefficiency in loading game elements) causes the karka to appear as if they instantly spawn. And the warning that the plume is supposed to give before the karka attack do not happen, resulting in people being insta-downed form barely appearing mobs.

Meaning that the event designers seems unable to deal with the limitations of the game engine, or there is some kind of unknown issue with the loading of game elements (models, sounds, particle effects) that interact with culling to cause the game to be harder than it should during larger events.

Maybe this is an indication that it might be time to open up some more servers?

There are many indications that the game code just cannot keep up with the sheer number of players that are currently playing. (culling, rubber-banding, stop-motion animations, etc.) Last night, my wife never even SAW the Karka Queen on her monitor until near the end of the fight.

The fact that all of the servers show as “Very High” or “Full” plus all the complaints relating to game performance should tell Arenanet that it is time to quit attempting to get the game code to accommodate more players than it actually can.

Thanks.

It’s as I have always said,
“You can get more results with a kind word and a big stick,
than you can with merely a kind word.”

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Posted by: OtakuDFifty.2965

OtakuDFifty.2965

I’ve found that scaling is out of control, especially at Point Pride. A group of 5 can easily recapture it in a reasonable amount of time, but if you’ve got 10 or more, be prepared to wait several minutes before the area is clear enough to even make the bar progress. And you can forget about protecting Steampipe. The more defenders, the faster it falls.

I just want to get Settler armor. Almost no one else is interested and just wants to capture points long enough to get the Queen Karka to appear. Hard to coordinate enough players to do something only I would benefit from. The last time we had 4 camps up, I barely had enough time to find the merchant, look at the menu, and fail to buy anything because a Drake showed up and pull/dazed me. By the time I recovered, one of the camps had fallen.

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Posted by: Mad Queen Malafide.7512

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And i have seen a projectile burst of a single such karka eat through 19000-20000 health.

Meaning that getting the aggro of a single such group, could see damage in around 114000 or more. Yes, there is dodge. But as far as i can tell, dodge do not allow you to avoid the whole projectile burst. And with multiple karka firing at once, you are going to get hit no matter what.

Yes, THIS annoys me to no end. Perhaps it is the large number of players in the zone that is causing them to be boosted to insane levels. But one volley from one of those karka’s is enough to instantly drop any player. Their charge attack as well, instant down. If you aggro more than one, they will fire more instant death rays at you than you can possibly dodge. Their damage output is ridiculous.

All that aside, there IS definitely a way to jump around, and I do it every kitten time. When running up the slope to the camp, head to the right-side. You will see a stack of logs, run past and up the slope to a second stack of logs. Jump up this stack, then onto the white pool ledge to the right. You have to make a tricky jump right into a ‘wedge’ that is slightly lower than the rest, the run around the back and make a daring open-fall jump onto the next white pool below then you are home free.

Some jumping advise from the Biofrog

Thanks, I will give this a try the next time I’m caught on the wrong side of the event.

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Posted by: digiowl.9620

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The last time we had 4 camps up, I barely had enough time to find the merchant, look at the menu, and fail to buy anything because a Drake showed up and pull/dazed me. By the time I recovered, one of the camps had fallen.

Ah, those drakes. The real killer seems to be their combo of DOT&confuse field and pull chain. This because the range of that pull is simply insane. I think maybe i can avoid getting pulled with a double dodge, but anything less seems to be futile as it i find myself on my back inside their field. Especially as the drakes seems capable of tracking while charging up the pull, so even if you dodge to the side you still get hit (only consolation is that you avoid landing in their field).

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Posted by: digiowl.9620

digiowl.9620

All that aside, there IS definitely a way to jump around, and I do it every kitten time. When running up the slope to the camp, head to the right-side. You will see a stack of logs, run past and up the slope to a second stack of logs. Jump up this stack, then onto the white pool ledge to the right. You have to make a tricky jump right into a ‘wedge’ that is slightly lower than the rest, the run around the back and make a daring open-fall jump onto the next white pool below then you are home free.

Some jumping advise from the Biofrog

Thanks, I will give this a try the next time I’m caught on the wrong side of the event.

I think it also possible to scale the cliff next to the bridge and wall, and slip between some trees into the pool of floaters.

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Posted by: aspirine.6852

aspirine.6852

Really sorry to the people who are having a hard time, but if anything, I learnt and adapted quickly to not standing/idling/akitteng in certain places. I learnt a hard lesson, but really I find the idea of Southsun being really dangerous and unpredictable to be part of it’s charm.

I was once caught out by a karka horde and got killed before I could get to the queen, but I could have spawned elsewhere and run round a safe way, the island really isn’t that big.

Tried that, now i am the first to say i am not a great player but from pearl islet to the karka queen took me longer than she was alive. Through the camp is not a option for me because I am either too slow or there are about 30 karka there that one way or another going to get me.
Tried to run through camp karka but the two vets/champs there kill me instantly. Would have been nice if you are able to get there through the area in between those two camps.

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Posted by: Heser.7190

Heser.7190

Personally, I love being part of a mindless zerg.
One frame per second is more than enough for the skillful use of one type of skill.

Attack, collect, dodge … ups to late … die, repeat.

it is so dynamically repulsive

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Posted by: PolarisNova.3867

PolarisNova.3867

Personally, I love being part of a mindless zerg.
One frame per second is more than enough for the skillful use of one type of skill.

Attack, collect, dodge … ups to late … die, repeat.

it is so dynamically repulsive

For you, not everyone is getting lag. It’s a blast for me, the only thing I am having some problems with is my sound cutting out to the point I am playing in silence.

~Lady Amelia of the House of Rose~

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Posted by: digiowl.9620

digiowl.9620

And then come crashing like some sonic tidal wave…

Honestly, the game seems to have a serious issue with loading resources on the fly. This even tho they seem to already be in ram, as the HDD bare moves.

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Posted by: juno.1840

juno.1840

The DCs, skill-lag, and culling are the only problems I have with the event. These are pretty serious problems however.

The DCs are fairly new — only occurring since the Game Update for the queen event itself. They did not happen to me at all for any of the prior southsun content (recent content — not the original southsun which was a lag/DC fest).

Part of me thinks that someone in ANet was thinking “hey, wanna see something funny? Watch this…”

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Posted by: rizzo.1079

rizzo.1079

Personally, I love being part of a mindless zerg.
One frame per second is more than enough for the skillful use of one type of skill.

Attack, collect, dodge … ups to late … die, repeat.

it is so dynamically repulsive

I had no problems with lag the other day when Camp Karka actually wasn’t contested and I managed to get there. Saw eggs and threw ’em at her and everything.

Then I got one blue and one karka shell from the chest. Yeah I got 2 rares, but the big chest sucks and is not worth it at all considering I usually have a 50/50% chance of pulling at least one rare from the big chest on any other meta boss.

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Posted by: Emma J.1940

Emma J.1940

So far I’ve found it a bit fustrating, I can agree with a lot of whats been said here, but I’ve not been able to get all 4 camps done nevermind the queen. I’d like to get the chance of having some of these problems.

I’m on fissue of woe and for the last 5 days I’ve been trying to do the queen event, so far theres just not been enough of us to leave a group at every camp. We’ve captured 3 at most but soon as we leave the third camp to go on one of the others has been over taken again by huge groups of karkas.
Pleas Anet if a camps been won leave it like that until the queens arrived, don’t reset them untill after she’s there. Because so far I’m just running around in endless circles trying to capture the camps and being killed every 5mins. Is it worth it?

I know if I was in a guild it would be easier to orgainise a good group to do the event but the guild I’m in hasn’t bothered doing the event.

I wish there was an events notice board in lions arch where we could leave a message up for an hour or so for example:

Karka Queen event
Anyone interested meet at Pearl Islet 7pm Uk time

We could do that for any of the big events. I’m a solo player mostly but I do enjoy meeting up for the big battles. I think it’s great when there’s a a big group playing together, all helping out. I love to do the big bosses, but a lot of the time there’s not many of us about to do it.

Last night I had hopes it could be done when a commander messaged for everyone to join in for the event. Great I thought untill I got to the end of the first camp killing the karka nests. I destoyed the last one to be told off by the other players as they were only there to farm and they were all kitten ed at me as they’d have to wait for it to reset!!!!!

So does anyone know of a world I can guest on that’s doing the queen event regularly?
I’d like to have a go but soon I’m just going to give up and go back to the rest of the game.

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Posted by: digiowl.9620

digiowl.9620

So people are starting to farm Steampipe now? Ugh…

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

So people are starting to farm Steampipe now? Ugh…

Not at gandara. Steampipe got bugged – no pops and nests are indestructible. No queen either, of course – that’s for the last 48h.

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