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Posted by: Akari Storm.6809

Akari Storm.6809

I’m all for dueling. There are some nice places throughout Tyria that would be cool to have a match. Dueling above a waterfall. Dueling on a bridge, a mountain top, a rooftop, Mount Maelstrom. I know many would probably just do in LA at the mystic forge or at the statue, but theres also a good chance you would see these little fights out in the world.

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Posted by: Erewhon.2590

Erewhon.2590

I’ve honestly no idea why we don’t have dueling yet, such a small feature that could add so much to the game, should have been in at launch.

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Posted by: SteepledHat.1345

SteepledHat.1345

Esc, Options, graphics options, Hide Dueling Players in Cities – Check

Now everyone is happy.

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Posted by: Herr der Friedhoefe.2490

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490

Are you guys actually serious? You don’t want dueling because it’s “annoying”? Wow… WOW…… What, you really think you’ll get spammed with duel invites every 2 minutes of gameplay? How is it that every other MMO has this feature then, and there aren’t people clamoring to have it removed because it is “annoying”?

Because we left those games, and most of us have no problem with dueling, just lets not have it in open world content. It would be easy to set up a new browser and instance maps complete with room for spectators so the people could enjoy dueling, as a part of the Mists. I imagine plenty of guilds would run their own guild events there, except that Anet want’s to rent that server space.

So anyway, let’s not have dueling in open game play, or at least give me the first option to opt out, and an easy option to ignore people who want to duel.

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Posted by: spencerharrison.8136

spencerharrison.8136

Hilarious how touchy people are about this. Obviously it needs to be in game.

Call it “sparring” if you want to apease the apparently oversensitive players.

No, it won’t lead to people fighting everywhere. It will encourage dueling “hangouts” and give people a reason to meet other people and learn pvp technique without having to que up.

Sparring and dueling is one of the best features in MMOs. People are assuming it’s some ego thing – Most instances of duels are between friends trying out different builds on eachother. It’s a great way to practice and learn your character while waiting around for dungeons, ques, etc.

The fact that this isn’t in game already is, for lack of a better word, stupid. It should be.

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Posted by: Sirge.8934

Sirge.8934

They could add dueling. It’s not a matter of how complex the coding is. However, Anet stated that they would not. They have stated a few reasons for this.

1) Player cruelty. People take duels seriously. You can see a similar effect where some (few) WvW players call another server a bunch of cheaters, nightshifters, or doubleteamers. People would insult each other, ridicule, accuse others of cheating, etc. I’m pretty sure anyone can hit up google and find the ridiculous recordings on various MMO duels. Even if you could block the ability to be challenged to duels, players ridicule those who refuse to duel.

2) Balancing the meta. Classes are not balanced for 1v1 duels. If duels were enabled, players would respec for 1v1 duels, rather than group PvP or WvW. Future patches would have to account for this, and balance according to group PvP, PvE, WvW, and single PvP. In other words, a nightmare. In a straight 1v1, certain classes have advantages. For example, Mesmers can Moa someone in a duel, effectively ruining them before the match has even begun.

That’s Anet’s stance anyway. I think it could work, like it did in GW1. You had to either be in the same guild (or a guest), go to the hall, and start a 1v1 guild match (if I recall correctly, its been a while). The number of steps required to have a duel made it so that it didn’t really impact the community at large. Or it could be confined to a single place. Like, one dueling city or something.

However, straight up invite-to-duel would be bad IMO.

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Posted by: aaron.7850

aaron.7850

Claiming dueling will turn people into invite spam bots is a wild exageration and a silly reason to not implement dueling.
Its as simple as adding an option to auto-decline all duel invites. Duelists will find a secluded place, most likely cool or big open areas like coliseums and hang in there.

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Posted by: Zex.4629

Zex.4629

Claiming dueling will turn people into invite spam bots is a wild exageration and a silly reason to not implement dueling.
Its as simple as adding an option to auto-decline all duel invites. Duelists will find a secluded place, most likely cool or big open areas like coliseums and hang in there.

This +100.

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Posted by: Sovta.4719

Sovta.4719

i don’t care about dueling but i don’t see why they don’t introduce it in heart of mists, somewhere near those training dummys

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Posted by: Herr der Friedhoefe.2490

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490

i don’t care about dueling but i don’t see why they don’t introduce it in heart of mists, somewhere near those training dummys

Very clever in your placement ideas. Congratulations. I like it.

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Posted by: Fernling.1729

Fernling.1729

Claiming dueling will turn people into invite spam bots is a wild exageration and a silly reason to not implement dueling.
Its as simple as adding an option to auto-decline all duel invites. Duelists will find a secluded place, most likely cool or big open areas like coliseums and hang in there.

Completely agree with you. Most arguments are about people being spammed with duel requests. What most don’t realize is that every mmo that has dueling, also includes an option to decline/refuse all duel requests. In turn the player not wanting to see or duel anyone will never even see a popup on the screen. Immersion wise, dueling is a great thing to add as well. There is literally no downside to having it in the game.

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Posted by: EvilSardine.9635

EvilSardine.9635

They need to add in dueling. It would be a great thing to do with friends and would be great practice. They should add an instance somewhere that’s just an arena that you can join as a party. It’s as simple as that.

If they go with the duel request button method then just put an option in settings to turn down duel requests for those who are afraid of dueling. No big deal.

They could add dueling. It’s not a matter of how complex the coding is. However, Anet stated that they would not. They have stated a few reasons for this.

1) Player cruelty. People take duels seriously. You can see a similar effect where some (few) WvW players call another server a bunch of cheaters, nightshifters, or doubleteamers. People would insult each other, ridicule, accuse others of cheating, etc. I’m pretty sure anyone can hit up google and find the ridiculous recordings on various MMO duels. Even if you could block the ability to be challenged to duels, players ridicule those who refuse to duel.

2) Balancing the meta. Classes are not balanced for 1v1 duels. If duels were enabled, players would respec for 1v1 duels, rather than group PvP or WvW. Future patches would have to account for this, and balance according to group PvP, PvE, WvW, and single PvP. In other words, a nightmare. In a straight 1v1, certain classes have advantages. For example, Mesmers can Moa someone in a duel, effectively ruining them before the match has even begun.

That’s Anet’s stance anyway. I think it could work, like it did in GW1. You had to either be in the same guild (or a guest), go to the hall, and start a 1v1 guild match (if I recall correctly, its been a while). The number of steps required to have a duel made it so that it didn’t really impact the community at large. Or it could be confined to a single place. Like, one dueling city or something.

However, straight up invite-to-duel would be bad IMO.

1) Anet’s stance on griefing is super strict. Anyone talking trash or bullying can be banned if reported. The end.

2) Yes, some classes are better at 1v1s but that doesn’t mean dueling shouldn’t be put in. It would be an amazing way to test out builds against friends. What’s wrong with practicing against a Mesmer who uses moa? Nothing. If anything it lets you learn how to beat them and there will be less whining about it.

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Posted by: Latorn.4209

Latorn.4209

I don’t even understand why people are arguing if dueling should be in the game or not, the answer seems pretty obvious to myself and a majority of the population >.< that’s a yes in case you couldn’t tell XD

My OP was actually a question concerning how hard dueling is to implement and why Anet hasn’t implemented it yet.

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Posted by: Darxio.5672

Darxio.5672

Oh, just go to the mists for dueling. Keep it out of PvE and WvW, w’here some people do not want to bother with people constantly ‘challenging’ them over trivial matters.

Besides, we don’t need the mists being more of a ghost town.

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Posted by: Latorn.4209

Latorn.4209

Oh, just go to the mists for dueling. Keep it out of PvE and WvW, w’here some people do not want to bother with people constantly ‘challenging’ them over trivial matters.

Besides, we don’t need the mists being more of a ghost town.

You realize SPvP is being hindered by the influx of dueling matches right?

Well that and the fact that the lack of actual SPvP rewards is leading it to hindering itself, but that’s a different matter entirely XD

Regardless, the argument for open world dueling is for the near unlimited map variability. I don’t mean to be ignorant or cruel, but I’m going to use a word I never use: it really seems like the ultimate in “carebear” that people are, for some reason, afraid of even being challenged to a duel that they can easily decline.

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Posted by: emikochan.8504

emikochan.8504

Adding an spvp map using the arena from the black citadel would probably sate people. Or just letting people duel in specific arenas, would make everyone happy since they are out of the way, and it’d populate the non-LA cities a bit.

Also space for spectators.

About duel spam, you can auto-decline duels in eve, don’t see why not in gw2 :P

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Posted by: Latorn.4209

Latorn.4209

Adding an spvp map using the arena from the black citadel would probably sate people. Or just letting people duel in specific arenas, would make everyone happy since they are out of the way, and it’d populate the non-LA cities a bit.

Also space for spectators.

About duel spam, you can auto-decline duels in eve, don’t see why not in gw2 :P

Actually, that’s a great idea, I never even though of that. Allowing dueling almost everywhere except LA would increase player traffic to all the other areas.

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Posted by: Conner.4702

Conner.4702

The problem with dueling i not the dueling itself, but the whining that will start afterwards when class A can’t beat classes BCDEFGH and demands buffs or nerfs. Almost no MMO is based around class balance and it wouldn’t be pretty when they tried. It’s based on group balance.

So dueling is always a big no no for me when people ask for it to be implented in a game.

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Posted by: Latorn.4209

Latorn.4209

The problem with dueling i not the dueling itself, but the whining that will start afterwards when class A can’t beat classes BCDEFGH and demands buffs or nerfs. Almost no MMO is based around class balance and it wouldn’t be pretty when they tried. It’s based on group balance.

So dueling is always a big no no for me when people ask for it to be implented in a game.

Almost every other MMO on the market has some form of dueling, not only that but I can’t see how you can support your point when:

People already whine about class balance (have you seen the SPvP forums?) and ALWAYS will whine about class balance.

People are already using inconvenient means to duel each other, such as meeting in an SPvP or WvW game.

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Posted by: eisberg.2379

eisberg.2379

Are you guys actually serious? You don’t want dueling because it’s “annoying”? Wow… WOW…… What, you really think you’ll get spammed with duel invites every 2 minutes of gameplay? How is it that every other MMO has this feature then, and there aren’t people clamoring to have it removed because it is “annoying”?

Because “every other MMO” does not have unrestricted dueling. One notable one being GW1.

GW1 wasn’t an MMO, so you better pick a different game =D
I think LOTRO didn’t have Dueling, can’t remember though. Does SWTOR have dueling?

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Posted by: Latorn.4209

Latorn.4209

Are you guys actually serious? You don’t want dueling because it’s “annoying”? Wow… WOW…… What, you really think you’ll get spammed with duel invites every 2 minutes of gameplay? How is it that every other MMO has this feature then, and there aren’t people clamoring to have it removed because it is “annoying”?

Because “every other MMO” does not have unrestricted dueling. One notable one being GW1.

GW1 wasn’t an MMO, so you better pick a different game =D
I think LOTRO didn’t have Dueling, can’t remember though. Does SWTOR have dueling?

Both LOTRO (or at least google search says it does) and SWTOR (it does, I played it at launch) have dueling, it’s honestly hard to find an MMORPG that doesn’t. >.<

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Posted by: Lifeson.4352

Lifeson.4352

I miss going outside Orgrimmar and watching some duel action when I’m bored.
I want to be able to go to the arena in Black Citadel and watch duels from the stands. :P

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Posted by: thisolderhead.5127

thisolderhead.5127

Actually there is a simple enough solution for most parties – add dueling however tie it down to only a handful of locations that are specifically designed for it (mini-arena type setup perhaps), and out of the way of normal traffic.

Everything this doesn’t address doesn’t warrant address, except the investment of time into actually coding it – /holdbreath.

Feeling bad due to my response does not mean it was a personal attack.
It may just be that your original statement was wrong.
Please try again.

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Posted by: Turgut.4397

Turgut.4397

I don’t want to see major kitten contests going on 24/7 outside of Divinity’s Reach. Sorry.

Still waiting for the things I love about GW1.

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Posted by: thisolderhead.5127

thisolderhead.5127

I don’t want to see major kitten contests going on 24/7 outside of Divinity’s Reach. Sorry.

Which is why you limit it to some areas outside of normal traffic, for those of you so offended by the idea it is out of sight and mind.

Feeling bad due to my response does not mean it was a personal attack.
It may just be that your original statement was wrong.
Please try again.

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Posted by: LOCO.1785

LOCO.1785

Dueling is a great idea and I’m still scratching my head why it’s not in game already. Well not that surprised actually, since a lot of stuff ANet said would be in the game pre-release still isn’t in.

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Posted by: Frellin.6318

Frellin.6318

I would also add dueling to heart of the mists. Though the location I have in mind is the middle. At the intersection of all the perimeter features of the mists you can make a giant circle for dueling. Hell, you can even keep that lone dodge practice dummy for giggles. No need to even change the landscape. The radius for starting a duel could be invisible.

I’m not sure about dueling in the rest of the world. I personally would not have an issue with it but I think Arenanet might have one. At the very least I see them keeping it out of major cities and not interfering with vendors.

I am not a big time dueler but this game needs any and all features to encourage more players to PvP. The number of people playing sPvP is quite small.

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Posted by: Latorn.4209

Latorn.4209

I don’t want to see major kitten contests going on 24/7 outside of Divinity’s Reach. Sorry.

Which is why you limit it to some areas outside of normal traffic, for those of you so offended by the idea it is out of sight and mind.

Exactly, there are easy ways to implement the system without it having a negative effect on anyone at all. Dueling would only be a boon for the game.

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Posted by: Daemonne.5018

Daemonne.5018

Dueling, more reasons to stand around in big cities instead of out in the world interacting.
Arenas, more reasons to stand around in cities waiting for your match to pop instead of out in the world interacting.

If you play solitaire with only one suit, your game is going to end faster and feel lacking.

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Posted by: Celtic Lady.3729

Celtic Lady.3729

I’m fine with dueling so long as there is an option to refuse or block all dueling requests. The last thing I want is to get hit on by every Tom, Dick, and Harry that’s bored and looking for a fight.

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Posted by: aaron.7850

aaron.7850

Dueling shouldnt be restricted just to HotM imo.

Some of us enjoy fighting in wvwvw and not in spvp, one reason is my character, I worked hard to get my exotic skins and all that progress goes away when I go into HotM, my heroic character suddenly turns into a lvl 5 squire with horrible clothes.

Another reason is racial abilities, I know some wvwvw players that duel with them and it would seem unfair to implement dueling only inside HotM for them, they pretty much designed their gear and traits around them.

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Posted by: GrandmaFunk.3052

GrandmaFunk.3052

I don’t even understand why people are arguing if dueling should be in the game or not, the answer seems pretty obvious to myself and a majority of the population >.< that’s a yes in case you couldn’t tell XD

My OP was actually a question concerning how hard dueling is to implement and why Anet hasn’t implemented it yet.

1) never assume you speak for the majority unless you have actual stats/research backing it up.

2) Anet hasn’t implemented it yet because they feel other things are more important/interesting and choose to focus their resources on those. Simple matter of priorities.

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Posted by: Slowburn.5319

Slowburn.5319

How can giving others the option to duel take anything away from the people who don’t want to duel? And don’t tell me how it annoys you to receive duel requestsl! Are you that bothered when players whisper you too? Same with mounts…the ‘i don’t want one so i don’t want anyone else to have one’ bullkitten needs to stop. When features are requested that you don’t care for and won’t use anyway..just don’t comment!!

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Posted by: Slowburn.5319

Slowburn.5319

I don’t even understand why people are arguing if dueling should be in the game or not, the answer seems pretty obvious to myself and a majority of the population >.< that’s a yes in case you couldn’t tell XD

My OP was actually a question concerning how hard dueling is to implement and why Anet hasn’t implemented it yet.

1) never assume you speak for the majority unless you have actual stats/research backing it up.

2) Anet hasn’t implemented it yet because they feel other things are more important/interesting and choose to focus their resources on those. Simple matter of priorities.

1) never answer for anet unless you have actual sources/research backing it up.

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Posted by: GrandmaFunk.3052

GrandmaFunk.3052

I don’t even understand why people are arguing if dueling should be in the game or not, the answer seems pretty obvious to myself and a majority of the population >.< that’s a yes in case you couldn’t tell XD

My OP was actually a question concerning how hard dueling is to implement and why Anet hasn’t implemented it yet.

1) never assume you speak for the majority unless you have actual stats/research backing it up.

2) Anet hasn’t implemented it yet because they feel other things are more important/interesting and choose to focus their resources on those. Simple matter of priorities.

1) never answer for anet unless you have actual sources/research backing it up.

The difference here being that my statement is easily verified, see one of many examples here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Is-pvp-dead-You-decide/first#post807293

claims about what “most” ppl want, or which side of an issue the majority falls on, is impossible to verify without a census of some sort.

ie: you and 4 of your buddies are not an acceptable sample size for commenting on what the majority wants.

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Posted by: Alarox.4590

Alarox.4590

Counter arguments to dueling:

1.) I don’t like it, therefore it shouldn’t be in regardless of how many people benefit from this.

2.) It’s way harder to code than we think (not really; they’ve put in WAY more complex systems for events).


Last time I checked, games were meant to be fun. Dueling is a LOT of fun for a huge amount of people, and for many others it’s actually a training/testing tool.

If someone says “oh, well you can just stop whatever you’re doing and go to the mists and try to change your gear and build to match your PvE/WvW build (which is impossible to come close to matching stat wise) and find an open lobby and join and hope that other players don’t come in”.

Well, you could also just walk from Orr to the Black Citadel, so Waypoints shouldn’t be in the game. You could just stand there and wait for mobs to spawn in a populated area, so you shouldn’t share experience with non-group members. Same goes for nodes, you could just stand there and wait for them to respawn so we don’t need those to be instanced. Vendors/bankers/trading-post shouldn’t be in WvW since you can just go to Lion’s Arch and walk to the mystic forge area as well. Convenience is overrated, am I right?

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Posted by: rozcinana.7249

rozcinana.7249

If I get the option to automatically ignore all dueling requests without seeing a notification and wouldn’t get hounded by players for ignoring dueling requests I would be cool with it.

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Posted by: Abbehemoth.2471

Abbehemoth.2471

it’s actually super easy to program. it doesn’t take a day, maybe a few hours max. Anet is just lazy. Also there is no reason to up-scale people in a duel. It’s fun to win as lvl 20 vs lvl 21. You can’t even spec someones armor, how lazy can you be as a company, lol.

Let me guess, your daddy is a super duper programmer, he once programmed the channels on the tv, super easy didn’t even take the whole day, yes?

Stupidity running rampart.

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Posted by: Raf.1078

Raf.1078

I’ve been to several dueling matches in WvW. As a spectator. Usually put together by peeps on opposing sides with understanding that it hands off by everone but the duelists. Was a good show. That Thief and Ele must have fought for 20-25 minutes.

Wasn’t there a couple of guilds early on that were doing this?

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Posted by: Latorn.4209

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No idea why my question was moved from the general forum to suggestions… Anyways…

Dueling, more reasons to stand around in big cities instead of out in the world interacting.
Arenas, more reasons to stand around in cities waiting for your match to pop instead of out in the world interacting.

Do you understand how foolish your statement is? You’re creating imaginary limitations for the system, could they simple not create a dueling system that prohibited individuals from using it in cities? Or even just prohibit it from Lions Arch, because people hardly go to the other cities as it is.

Oh, and dueling is interacting! Would you rather have players interacting with each other in an MMO, or interacting with NPCs?

ie: you and 4 of your buddies are not an acceptable sample size for commenting on what the majority wants.

No, but the number of results a forum search brings up can easily prove it’s probably the most talked about feature that isn’t in the game.

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

No idea why my question was moved from the general forum to suggestions… Anyways…

Dueling, more reasons to stand around in big cities instead of out in the world interacting.
Arenas, more reasons to stand around in cities waiting for your match to pop instead of out in the world interacting.

Do you understand how foolish your statement is? You’re creating imaginary limitations for the system, could they simple not create a dueling system that prohibited individuals from using it in cities? Or even just prohibit it from Lions Arch, because people hardly go to the other cities as it is.

Oh, and dueling is interacting! Would you rather have players interacting with each other in an MMO, or interacting with NPCs?

ie: you and 4 of your buddies are not an acceptable sample size for commenting on what the majority wants.

No, but the number of results a forum search brings up can easily prove it’s probably the most talked about feature that isn’t in the game.

Is it that hard to use the search function and read your ToS?

No, but the number of results a forum search brings up can easily prove it’s probably the most talked about feature that isn’t in the game.

Making multiple threads of the same topic is not a sign of how badly it is needed, especially when there is 50 threads of this topic and only 20 people have commented in support of it across all 50 threads. If maybe people would read the rules they would find out that creating one thread and having multiple people on it gives a more defined clear notion of what the players want.

Do you understand how foolish your statement is? You’re creating imaginary limitations for the system, could they simple not create a dueling system that prohibited individuals from using it in cities? Or even just prohibit it from Lions Arch, because people hardly go to the other cities as it is.

They did this in WoW and yet everyone stood out side the cities and duels and just bothered other people. Again if people did a lil research they would have found that Arena Net is Implementing a dueling system into the Heart of The Mist where you and your friends can rent out a private room and duel till your hearts content. The moderator of the room will be able to control who comes and stays, and more than likely other aspects of the game.

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Posted by: Krosslite.1950

Krosslite.1950

Yes it is.

It takes a lot of code per region to make such a change. This is something that can maybe be added in an expansion.

Personally I have no desire for it to take place.

They now have PvP maps that can be used for this type of play

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Posted by: Latorn.4209

Latorn.4209

Is it that hard to use the search function and read your ToS?

No, but the number of results a forum search brings up can easily prove it’s probably the most talked about feature that isn’t in the game.

Making multiple threads of the same topic is not a sign of how badly it is needed, especially when there is 50 threads of this topic and only 20 people have commented in support of it across all 50 threads. If maybe people would read the rules they would find out that creating one thread and having multiple people on it gives a more defined clear notion of what the players want.

Do you understand how foolish your statement is? You’re creating imaginary limitations for the system, could they simple not create a dueling system that prohibited individuals from using it in cities? Or even just prohibit it from Lions Arch, because people hardly go to the other cities as it is.

They did this in WoW and yet everyone stood out side the cities and duels and just bothered other people. Again if people did a lil research they would have found that Arena Net is Implementing a dueling system into the Heart of The Mist where you and your friends can rent out a private room and duel till your hearts content. The moderator of the room will be able to control who comes and stays, and more than likely other aspects of the game.

Alright, let’s look at your points one at a time here:

Read the ToS? You mean forum rules, and why suggestions belong in the suggestion forum? This thread wasn’t a suggestion but rather a technical question, I simply gave my opinion in response to the replys that were off topic. Again, no idea how my OP found it’s way to the suggestion forums.

And as previously stated, this thread isn’t like the 50 other threads suggesting the implementation of dueling, it’s a question.

The system doesn’t need to be like WoW’s, almost every other MMO has dueling too you know. The reason I don’t think it should be exclusive to the HotM is so that players can use the infinite map-variability found in the open world and revisit old locations.

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Posted by: Catisa.6507

Catisa.6507

Bring dueling on if and only if:

A. Auto decline option is available from the start (no partial roll out or fix in some future patch that never comes)
B. Disabled for all in WvW. Don’t need even longer queues because of non-contributors.

AR

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Posted by: RoShamBo.2618

RoShamBo.2618

Sod dueling and just make the basics of the game WORK PROPERLY F F S! And you could start with sorting out the stupid game breaking right mouse button funtionality as per the thread linked below:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/An-option-to-disable-right-click-targeting/first

k thx bai

Forever posting in legendary threads!

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Posted by: Latorn.4209

Latorn.4209

Sod dueling and just make the basics of the game WORK PROPERLY F F S! And you could start with sorting out the stupid game breaking right mouse button funtionality as per the thread linked below:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/An-option-to-disable-right-click-targeting/first

k thx bai

Thank you for contributing to this thread by posting about a completely irrelevant topic. >.<

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Posted by: RoShamBo.2618

RoShamBo.2618

Sod dueling and just make the basics of the game WORK PROPERLY F F S! And you could start with sorting out the stupid game breaking right mouse button funtionality as per the thread linked below:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/An-option-to-disable-right-click-targeting/first

k thx bai

Thank you for contributing to this thread by posting about a completely irrelevant topic. >.<

Sorry, but I completely disagree with you. I think it’s far more important for ArenaNet to get the basics of the game working properly before they expend resource adding ‘bells and whistles’. This is, of course, my personal view on the matter but I know for a fact that it’s a view shared by a very large number of the player base in this game. As for relevance to adding dueling to the game, how about this:

You can’t have a meaningful duel while you are unable to consistently control your character properly. So why add dueling in at all?

Forever posting in legendary threads!

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Posted by: Qnopsik El Qox.1269

Qnopsik El Qox.1269

Latorn.4209 answering your title question is pretty simple:
Yeah, it’s kitten hard.

Reading some of the answers here made me ROTFL so hard, that i still can’t sit still
Especially:

it’s actually super easy to program. it doesn’t take a day, maybe a few hours max. Anet is just lazy. Also there is no reason to up-scale people in a duel. It’s fun to win as lvl 20 vs lvl 21. You can’t even spec someones armor, how lazy can you be as a company, lol.

Still dunno if he is a troll or joking, or needs some serious medical help.

Costume Brawling ??

This is just a technical question, because many people argue that costume brawling could easily be retooled into dueling.

And this idea seems to make sense to an extent, I mean, costume brawling itself with its new abilities and “damage” system seems like it would have been even more complex to program than basic dueling. The idea stems from the fact that basic dueling would just utilize the abilities we already have and denote each participant as attackable so that their HP would actually drop.

Anyone have any insight or ideas into how the process of creating dueling/retooling costume brawling would actually work?

Mate, please, do you even remember how costume brawling worked? Three different effects: gain CB stack, loose CB stack, regenerate CB stack, nothing more. And you want to say it’s almost dueling … PLEASE be serious.

Want to know what’s so difficult in adding open world DUELING, here are some points:

  1. This game has some faction implemented: players, npcs, diffrent kinds of enemies. How do you want to change mechanic between factions during the Duel? Have you though about it? What with other players using support auras, whats with NPC using support skills, what with Enemies using AoE, CC, conditions or any other kind of skills?
    example: Guardian versus Ele, whats with their AoE support skills, yeah cleansing wave FTW…
    It’s not CostumeBrawl and its add/deduce point thing, it’s a real problem to develop/code.
  2. What’s with negative effects that it can have on other players? Its’ an additional lag that wouldn’t happen without dueling active. Those players would go sPvP, or stand dormant waiting. What with players that don’t want to see duel spammers. Maybe you have only good experiences from other duel accepting games, but I remember lots of high levels killing/grieving low levels in their zones.
    What can you do, make duelers invisible? It’s changing some of the core mechanics.

It’s not an easy Task to add open world dueling.
Those are changes that need lots of thinking and implementing.

Saying that majority of players wants dueling in game is also a kitten joke. Majority of players doesn’t even use this forum.

Of course dueling could be fun, and in GW1 i spend lots of time with friends in a guild hall dueling, playing, sparing, training, but it wasn’t something that affected PvE, or other players.

I would like to have some kind of dueling option in GW2, but please something well designed.

*Private arenas – could be an answer. They have lots of positives.
*Open world dueling – as for me I see more negatives than positives, and lots of coding it would demand is an additional kitten big negative.

Rozalinda El Qox 80lvl Elem
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Posted by: NinjaEd.3946

NinjaEd.3946

As long as this was exclusive to persay the arena in Black citadel, and therefore was optional I wouldn’t mind. But ppl running around randomly requesting a duel would kitten the kitten out of many people.

“I’m waiting for the staff to get off their lunch
break. I feel like they should be back by now..”

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Posted by: Meryt.9823

Meryt.9823

it’s actually super easy to program. it doesn’t take a day, maybe a few hours max. Anet is just lazy. Also there is no reason to up-scale people in a duel. It’s fun to win as lvl 20 vs lvl 21. You can’t even spec someones armor, how lazy can you be as a company, lol.

Perhaps you should write your own MMO if it’s that easy.

However , back on topic.
I found duelling in other games an annoyance in populated areas. If they do implement it in GW2 there ought to be designated areas (ie Arenas and quieter corners of the maps). Any players duelling in towns and settlements ought to run the risk of some NPC guards spawning to cart them off to the dungeons. There they would either pay a fine (level based) or get a 20minute lockdown in the cells.

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster.

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