Guild Wars 2

Daily.5381:

Vesper.8359:

Kingmutez.4930:

On the one had we have ppl that don’t want LFD tools like in Wow and on there we have the ppl that do. Both have good arguments, its counterproductive to have to wait in front of a portal spamming “LF1MOAR” and traditional hot join dungeons breeds Trolls so lets make a whole new system to be the standard!? isnt that what GW2 is all about? Here are some traditional ideas and new ones.

I haven’t seen any one make a good argument against it except that supposedly you’d be afk more in cities waiting for que instead of being more active and social… Which to me seems like the opposite.

There are 8 dungeons in 80 levels. None are required for anything and none are casual walkthroughs. Adding an instant team maker is pointless. This is not WoW where the entire game is casual dungeon runs.

Many people pushing this have some misconception that the dungeons are the game. Instant dungeons will wear out the content (that is only a small amount of gameplay) very fast. Then, the inevitable roar for more dungeons – creating this casual dungeon crawling situation that WoW has and that people have grown to hate. They are (hopefully) not going to follow that same destructive path here.
This is a different kind of game.
Embrace it. There are too many clones out there.

Good explanation and very true.

/signed.

With no specific role anymore getting a group through dungeon finder would be easy. Oding it on /map takes forever.

for those fearing it will destroy the community just have it same server. Frankly all these servers are full to my knowledge so it would not be that hard. But yeah i’d like to do dynamic events, go crafting etc without having to stand in front and spam lfg.

100% Agree. LFG function is a really anti-social, people don’t use it, there is little point, that guy is looking for group, but for what? Make an list, descriptions for example we can find people who want do the same as us, like dungeons.

Wow, great idea! I can’t say how many times I had problems grouping up for a dungeon.
It would make dungeon playing easier!

Daily.5381:

Vesper.8359:

Kingmutez.4930:

On the one had we have ppl that don’t want LFD tools like in Wow and on there we have the ppl that do. Both have good arguments, its counterproductive to have to wait in front of a portal spamming “LF1MOAR” and traditional hot join dungeons breeds Trolls so lets make a whole new system to be the standard!? isnt that what GW2 is all about? Here are some traditional ideas and new ones.

I haven’t seen any one make a good argument against it except that supposedly you’d be afk more in cities waiting for que instead of being more active and social… Which to me seems like the opposite.

There are 8 dungeons in 80 levels. None are required for anything and none are casual walkthroughs. Adding an instant team maker is pointless. This is not WoW where the entire game is casual dungeon runs.

Many people pushing this have some misconception that the dungeons are the game. Instant dungeons will wear out the content (that is only a small amount of gameplay) very fast. Then, the inevitable roar for more dungeons – creating this casual dungeon crawling situation that WoW has and that people have grown to hate. They are (hopefully) not going to follow that same destructive path here.
This is a different kind of game.
Embrace it. There are too many clones out there.

Again where is the argument in this? Is this how you feel? So far its only opinions and making friends since people can’t make real life friends now?

Anyway, right now people are still leveling to 80 and within a few months its populations will start to go down (not die). So far most people only want to do AC for the glow weapons or CoF because that armor usually looks the best for most classes, I already witness people spamming for TA explore for over an hour already and my server is full. So either way something is going to be done eventually since the masses are calling for it.

Vesper.8359:

Daily.5381:

Vesper.8359:

Kingmutez.4930:

On the one had we have ppl that don’t want LFD tools like in Wow and on there we have the ppl that do. Both have good arguments, its counterproductive to have to wait in front of a portal spamming “LF1MOAR” and traditional hot join dungeons breeds Trolls so lets make a whole new system to be the standard!? isnt that what GW2 is all about? Here are some traditional ideas and new ones.

I haven’t seen any one make a good argument against it except that supposedly you’d be afk more in cities waiting for que instead of being more active and social… Which to me seems like the opposite.

There are 8 dungeons in 80 levels. None are required for anything and none are casual walkthroughs. Adding an instant team maker is pointless. This is not WoW where the entire game is casual dungeon runs.

Many people pushing this have some misconception that the dungeons are the game. Instant dungeons will wear out the content (that is only a small amount of game play) very fast. Then, the inevitable roar for more dungeons – creating this casual dungeon crawling situation that WoW has and that people have grown to hate. They are (hopefully) not going to follow that same destructive path here.
This is a different kind of game.
Embrace it. There are too many clones out there.

Again where is the argument in this? Is this how you feel? So far its only opinions and making friends since people can’t make real life friends now?

Anyway, right now people are still leveling to 80 and within a few months its populations will start to go down (not die). So far most people only want to do AC for the glow weapons or CoF because that armor usually looks the best for most classes, I already witness people spamming for TA explore for over an hour already and my server is full. So either way something is going to be done eventually since the masses are calling for it.

There was plenty of reason in my post.
There’s no reason to attempt at being snarky in a suggestions post or anywhere else.
A forum is for diverse opinion.

The only reason people -I think ‘masses’ to be a gross overstatement- are calling for it is because of the habits they are bringing over from other games. Nobody is saying that it would not be more convenient. In fact, that same convenience is the actual lead in to the problem that games like world of warcraft have. It creates an instant and casual environment that wears out the dungeons, makes them grind fests for loot instead of the more difficult tiny portions of the game that they are made for – skilled, pre-made groups. There are no casual walk through’s in this game. These are ‘nearly’ exact quotes of what anet has said already. Read interviews about this topic for the bulk of it. I don’t think we’ll be seeing this put in because it simply isn’t needed.

So we should also get a guild join instant queue, and events instant queue, story arcs instant queue in case you want to do someone else’s or bring along someone? Why just dungeon? Why not everything instant and handed to you so you can anonymously blend in and not socialize in an MMO? Why only ask for dungeon queue?
It’s because of the habits from WoW and clones.

Dungeon queue is just as silly as those other queues would be. Make friends or just chat with others around or guildmates and make a group for events, story arcs, heart runs or yes – a dungeon. We don’t need the instant, nameless, chatless, casual, faceless grindfest in this game.

Once people adapt to a new game, they’ll be out there doing events and changing the world like the rest of us.

Easy group finding does not equal easy dungeons. Getting a group together should be simple while the dungeon still requires communication and tactics. Nothing wrong with a lfg tool if the challenge is still there and this is coming from an old school mmo player that started with Everquest.

WTB LFG system.

Just stopping by to vote ‘yes.’ Spamming the /m channel until you get the “too many messages” warning is not fun.

im really serprized they didnt add this before release. if i remember correctly we told them about the lack of LFG in beta was unacceptable.

Isn’t there a LFG system in the game already? I saw something along those lines yesterday.

Eochaidh.4106:

Isn’t there a LFG system in the game already? I saw something along those lines yesterday.

There is.
Some people don’t even want to have to do a minimal amount of effort.
It isn’t making a team that they are whining about.
These are the people too lazy to make a team.
They don’t even want to have to answer a LFM request.
Or heaven forbid, be asked a simple question before invited.
They want instant group with no conversation.
Like WoW.

And if you want to spam chat and make a team Daily you can still do that, even with a dungeon finder in the game. The simple truth is that you can’t make a team now, because it takes so long to make a group you have to take whatever you can get.

Would it help if it wasn’t called “dungeon finder” maybe we should call it Dungeon Hot Join or something and people would stop thinking that any kind of implementation of a dungeon finder would turn GW2 into WoW.

The currently LFG tool in the game is, as far as I can tell, useless. It only applies to friends, so unless you have a facebook sized list of friends, you could easily just msg them individually. Or maybe no one is even using it, because it’s always empty when I try to search for anything.

I think the LFG tool is especially necessary in this game for 2 reasons: dungeons often outlevel the area they are in. It’s not particularly rewarding trouncing around a level 16 area when you are 50 while waiting for an area lfg call to net something. Also, story modes exist, are required, and yet aren’t terribly rewarding to repeat for the most part (the exception may be farming caudecus manor for xp when you are just around 40). It was easy as all heck finding story modes the first few weeks, but it’s getting tougher.

/agree. Please add a LFG type tool similar to what is currently available for pvp.

There is a LFG feature in the game. I found it about a week ago. But I do not use it. Have found groups easily for dungeons. I don’t think many people even see the option or if they do, even bother using it.

I agree w/ the OP. Let’s say I feel like doing AC35. Currently, I have no choice but to map travel to the Plains of Ashford and spam /m. I would expect that a global LFG tool will be implemented in the near future since a primary purpose of this game was to get rid of the elements that force people to ‘wait for fun’ and enable gamers to get into the fun right away.

yes there is a real need for a lfg function…

a bigger issue is that the items you get isnt better then stuff you can easily obtain for 1/20 of the time invested and you need that gear to even do the last stuff. so all your doing is running a instance with insanely hard bosses 200 times just for a skin, not many people will be willing to do this which means very few people will even do the instances making it hard to even find a group and impossible to find good groups which can actually do the whole arah run for example.

Actually, the LFG/LFR system used in WoW actually did kill off some of the social aspect. But not for reasons stated here.

Because the system set you up with anybody on any server within your region, as opposed to just your server, you tend to end up with groups full of idiots that prefer to hide behind anonymity instead of improving their play (trolling, being bad, etc.). Furthermore, the pairing with other realms meant that you had less contact with your own, which guildwars 2 puts a hefty emphasis on with dynamic events.

This led to less “lasting” social interaction, and a relative increase of interaction with kittens in WoW.

The solution? Make a LFG tool, but make it per server or small server groups (3 at max, maybe the low pop servers). The less anonymity is promoted, the better the overall social experience will be.

I say we should go on strike ….I mean we are already standing around the entrances like “We are already on strike” , except we do not have picket signs.

Seriously can a GM explain how the current setup is supposed to work. I went to wiki trying to see how it works and nothing was on there yet except this which tells nothing on how its function operates http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Contacts_panel what do you type in the search bar? All I ever got was an error saying that player is not online, does not exist or something like that….

At least some of the nay sayers could agree that the current group finder is not worth trying to get it to work…as I have never seen anything lit up.

You all forget one thing. In WoW you have kiddies that thinks the world is base around them and they know everthing in the world. They like gods. Now imagine what you said about dungeon finder. Atm you try hard to get group together. This group will stick to end of a dungeon, even if its very hard and alot of deaths. In wow if you die alot or something they kick you and get instant replacement with stupid dungeon finder. Now you all said we want dungeon finder. Why want to bring stupid wow play style to this game?

+1
Less spamming, less traveling to be spamming

We do need some kind of tool. We have one for sPVP and I do not see people complaining. And you can still join as a group. So why would it be any different for PVE? Spamming chat is not social, spamming chat does not make friends. Playing with people is social, and chatting with them in a party is as well.

We do not need the same tools as WoW for example, but we do need something to help us find other people interested in the same dungeon as we are without resorting to spamming a channel that no one may even be listening to…

Gizzox.7491:

+1
Less spamming, less traveling to be spamming

this 100%
/15char

I rather go and play the game than stand in a city spamming.

At least have a Dungeon channel that you can ONLY access at level 30+ to reduce spammers. Maybe even at 80 since most people running instances are 80. That way I can be helping a friend in a level 20 zone and still see someone’s post “LF1M Awesome asura for CoF” so I can ditch my friend and go do CoF :P

The outside PVE is impeccible, the Spvp is amazing, the WvW is alright (gear is very lacklustre) but the dungeons and the LFG are the weakest parts of this game. The dungeons might not be as painful if it was easier to get a group with a LFG that was actually useful. Fingers crossed they implement something soon, in the mean time bak to Mists of Pandaria (which i really dont want to do)