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While I do agree, you sir have too much time on your hands.

Ioflux.4369:

While I do agree, you sir have too much time on your hands.

Now I can just link post every time someone complains about no more way point ressing.

DancingPenguins.9875:

Ioflux.4369:

While I do agree, you sir have too much time on your hands.

Now I can just link post every time someone complains about no more way point ressing.

Just sig it and then put a belt right above it (clever use of ascii) and go… “check below the belt”

Ioflux.4369:

DancingPenguins.9875:

Ioflux.4369:

While I do agree, you sir have too much time on your hands.

Now I can just link post every time someone complains about no more way point ressing.

Just sig it and then put a belt right above it (clever use of ascii) and go… “check below the belt”

That’s actually a good idea.

sorry i gave up after skipping the first 50%, what exactly are you rantig about or is it just random? or just me ?

Nibiru.1423:

sorry i gave up after skipping the first 50%, what exactly are you rantig about or is it just random? or just me ?

I thought he was crystal clear, check the first line.

Nibiru.1423:

sorry i gave up after skipping the first 50%, what exactly are you rantig about or is it just random? or just me ?

This feels like one of those “woosh” moments where the point of a huge wall of text went way over someone’s head. The first line followed by alot of sarcasm. People tend to miss sarcasm over the interwebz when its in the form of text rather than voice/tone.

Ioflux.4369:

Nibiru.1423:

sorry i gave up after skipping the first 50%, what exactly are you rantig about or is it just random? or just me ?

This feels like one of those “woosh” moments where the point of a huge wall of text went way over someone’s head. The first line followed by alot of sarcasm. People tend to miss sarcasm over the interwebz when its in the form of text rather than voice/tone.

Read it with a British Accent.

DancingPenguins.9875:

Ioflux.4369:

Nibiru.1423:

sorry i gave up after skipping the first 50%, what exactly are you rantig about or is it just random? or just me ?

This feels like one of those “woosh” moments where the point of a huge wall of text went way over someone’s head. The first line followed by alot of sarcasm. People tend to miss sarcasm over the interwebz when its in the form of text rather than voice/tone.

Read it with a British Accent.

Reminds me of chancellor sutler or a big brother type personality if I read it in such an accent.

Ioflux.4369:

DancingPenguins.9875:

Ioflux.4369:

Nibiru.1423:

sorry i gave up after skipping the first 50%, what exactly are you rantig about or is it just random? or just me ?

This feels like one of those “woosh” moments where the point of a huge wall of text went way over someone’s head. The first line followed by alot of sarcasm. People tend to miss sarcasm over the interwebz when its in the form of text rather than voice/tone.

Read it with a British Accent.

Reminds me of chancellor sutler or a big brother type personality if I read it in such an accent.

I was actually going for the Monty Python voice in my head. With the Ministry of Silly Walks jingo playing as the background.

Great piece! Heh

If you don’t mind I’ll point everyone to your direction whenever I see also a thread about the removal of wp ressing.

I approve of this public service announcement.

abelooi.9156:

Great piece! Heh

If you don’t mind I’ll point everyone to your direction whenever I see also a thread about the removal of wp ressing.

This is just an update to an old piece when people were saying dungeons were impossible. I figured it’s easier to rewrite it and link this piece instead of typing up the same thing every time as a reply.

Read this with a British accent AND a top hat

Gregorius.1024:

Read this with a British accent AND a top hat

IS no british accent…… a welsh accent is vastly different from a scouse accent!

Kakeru.2873:

Gregorius.1024:

Read this with a British accent AND a top hat

IS no british accent…… a welsh accent is vastly different from a scouse accent!

Any of the more posh accents would suffice.

OH I see this is where the guys who are elitist hang out and make up a diatribe written as a complaining casual player. You know.. Your right!
I don’t want to play in the same dungeon, as you do it’s pointless for a casual player to run these dungeons. I raided in EQ back in the days where if you died you actually had to wait hours to recover your corpse. Always fun in an alternate plane.

You can make fun of us all you want and shine the light of your dawn or twilight blade where ever you wish, although I might have a few suggestions.

Most of us casuals, will stop complaining soon as we move on. So just be patient, then you can play with yourselves.

I have no doubt that gw2lfg will sorely miss your loss badges.

I agree. Some of those in the so-called ‘casual’ camp (whatever that means anymore) are getting to be just as bad as the supposed ‘elitists’.

I don’t play all that often, and I haven’t had many issues aside from the obvious stage where I didn’t know what I was doing and was still learning how things worked. The most important step is realizing that there is always something to learn.

I’m the farthest thing from a casual player. I clear all paths of Arah on a daily basis, but even i can see the obvious flaws in some of the dungeon design just for Arah specifically. While i love the idea of locking out the wp zerg for boss fights as i feel that is skillless and stupid, I must admit some of the game mechanics are truly f*ed up. I find it hilarious that the trash mobs in Arah are harder then almost every single boss. I have a lot of gripes with Lupi specifically. I am fine with no trinity provided they give individual classes the tools they need to survive, but I am not ok with no defined aggro system. Lupi likes to focus someone like crazy and if that person isnt say a thief it is only a matter of time before they run out of evades and other skills before they are inevitably downed. Which is ok in most fights as its not that hard to get someone back up. For lupi however, it can be quite difficult especially if he is standing right on top of the downed player. Again i love the challenge of fighting Lupi daily but the dungeons in this game need a metric kitten ton of polish before they really meet my standards.

You are a poet. That was beautiful.

THIS… This made me smile.

This is fabulous. Thank you.

I don’t agree with one thing tho, that legendary you have, proves doesn’t show youre a good player or a bad player at all, it just shows you played a lot.

Having said that, I do agree with other things.

Had fun reading this, good job;)

First of if they cannot do the dungeons they are not the best. The best out there can solo every dungeon except the specific parts which is required x people to stand on spots, pull leavers at the same time or other mechanics which FORCE more than 1 person and which can’t be done by 100% dodge rate and perfect positioning.

Dungeons are too hard for random scrub and too easy for full premade pro groups:
There need to be difficulty lvls on these.

Dungeons have WAY too many silver mobs and too few bronze/normal mobs, making it trivial and boring to go through the extreme hp pool of the single silver mobs.
This is among some of the things which is a huge design flaw.

Waypoint rush IS BAD!!! Same as exploits(if you are not good enough to do something hard you should do something easier to train and become good enough or change your builds/setups, not just nerf everything to kitten for everyone), both should be stopped and they are working at it, but so should skipping all the mobs, there should be barricades blocking progress until certain mobs are killed so you can’t rush it, this should be complimented by the reduction of amount of silver mobs and adding of normal+bronze mobs.
On top of that a wipe should ALWAYS!! Force all mobs/bosses etc to reset as if you never touched them

Holy trinity:
THIS is the biggest issue of guildwars2, it’s a HORRIBLE design choice to remove this, it have been proved throughout every mmo ever made that this trinity is the BEST!! Way to allow people to play the class/role/style that each player personally prefers.
As it is now everyone is forced into “tanky dps” or “tanky healer” for the best end result. YES you can do full dps set and I am personally always running in full berserk sets with absolutely maxed dps BUT!!!! This is Extremely much harder than when I am running a survive dps build or a heal dps build and it will not work once you reach a certain difficulty with a group since that unlucky 1 shot on you will cost a wipe every time once you get to the point where it is so hard that 1 person dead=wipe, besides I have been gaming for 20years and are extremely good at every game I play so is a few others but it is the minority which can go full glass cannon builds without being a burden to their party instead of a boost, meaning that for the majority of people (will properly also happen to me once i reach 40/50+ fractile) there is only ONE type of builds for everyone no matter the class.

Instead of adding options to people with the removal of the trinity you are directly hurting the options and forcing everyone into the same exact play style… how the devs did not see this is just amazing and it makes one wonder if they EVER actually played any other game then their own?!

Erebus.7568:

Instead of adding options to people with the removal of the trinity you are directly hurting the options and forcing everyone into the same exact play style… how the devs did not see this is just amazing and it makes one wonder if they EVER actually played any other game then their own?!

There is a small, yet annoying vocal minority that throws the L2P card every time someone says “wow this is really hard”. Conversely, there is also a small and slightly less annoying vocal minority that complains every time they are confronted with something that mashing the “1” button cannot overcome. This has been the case since video games were created, which is why you don’t ever see either Anet or the bulk of the game community involved in these conversations.

. With that said, you seem to fall into the third camp which has the ridiculous and anachronistic notion that a defining mechanic that the vast majority of players are using and actually enjoying on a daily basis is actually broken. And not just broken, but to the point that the only possible explanation is that the developers just don’t know it exists, as if the dog pooped on the carpet behind the couch right before Christmas dinner and Sweet Jesus can’t you smell it? Christmas is ruined forever.

The biggest problem with dungeons is you, you whining and crying all over the forums, dungeons are awesome.

DancingPenguins.9875:

Oh look! This PuG group killed the bosses without me!

It’s actually the other way around most of the time. Random people lie around dead, while me and some friends finish the boss.

The amount of people in this game who don’t want to learn is terribly high. I don’t mind new people – it’s ok to explain things first time. But when you’re doing lvl 20 fractals and people have NO CLUE of boss mechanics it’s just dumb. It’s as if people are kitten in some way.

So until such clearly stupid dungeoneers exist, none of the “blame the elitists!” posts are valid. Until every non-first time PUG player will at least know the boss mechanics (and I don’t say succeed in dodging every time, mistakes happen, just don’t do dumb things like making lupicus reset etc.) and the dungeon route, I have every right to remain “elitist”.

GabGar.4962:

The biggest problem with dungeons is you, you whining and crying all over the forums, dungeons are awesome.

Well, there are a few real problems with dugeons
- high mob and boss health
- level scaling (being a level 80 at AC is too much of an advantage)
- defiant
- class filtering encouters
- mob loot drops

loseridoit.2756:

GabGar.4962:

The biggest problem with dungeons is you, you whining and crying all over the forums, dungeons are awesome.

Well, there are a few real problems with dugeons
- high mob and boss health
- level scaling (being a level 80 at AC is too much of an advantage)
- defiant
- class filtering encouters
- mob loot drops

Honestly I see more dumb 80s running like headless chickens or beign kitten by Kholer than people leveling alts. Beign 80 has nothing to do with dodge at the rigth time or know what to do.

And I leveled 5 80s almost just doing dungeons and do PUGs all time. Sometimes the group is a fail, sometimes 5 40s kitten AC in 10 minutes.

OP’s post is exactly the kind of frustration Anet’s design decisions are inciting in players.

Most players don’t post, and it is said that for every one person who has an opinion (regardless of whether they post it or not) there are TEN others who think/feel the same.

I think Anet should take note.

i like how is the dungeon now and NO1 of them is impossible, all can be doned w\o exploit

so tired of listening to people whine about how hard dungeons are.

99% of them are mind-numbly easy and should be made harder… you know with difficult mechanics and not just MORE HEALTH MORE DAMAGE attitude that they seem to have when designing dungeons.

Dungeons are meant to be for organized groups (explorable modes were never intended for pugs). You are not going to just be handed everything. If you are not good enough to complete the content there are other ways for you to get exotics. it shouldnt be dumbed down just because you cannot finish it when the vast majority of people have absolutely no problem doing it.

I’m pretty sure the biggest problem with dungeons is that they’re simply no fun. How hard or easy they are wouldn’t matter much if they were fun, but they’re not.

rizzo.1079:

I’m pretty sure the biggest problem with dungeons is that they’re simply no fun. How hard or easy they are wouldn’t matter much if they were fun, but they’re not.

I actually agree with this. I think it partly comes down to the dungeons and the way they are designed. With most, if not all of them, they can be quite difficult until you learn how the mechanics work. This ruins the novelty of playing something new. Then you work out how those mechanics work, but by then you have played it a number of times and your just there wanting to rush through it and get the rewards. If that makes sense.