Guild Wars 2

Kevin.2176:

Your posts makes 0 sense, in any context or form. They are very incoherent and inconsistent.

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

Bro, go in peace, i (nor anyone else) gives a kitten of who you are and what you did and your “only video on internet” (which doesn’t means you and your group are the only one able to perform it, but i guess you’re having difficulties to get it haha ).

I have made 0 indication of this is only capable by us. I guess we are having difficulties???

Looking your attitude, you seems quite proud of your video, acting like if your video was a unique pearl ( i hope i will figure out which one haha )
and you some kind of elite or pro. One day you will figure out : when your elitefriends/guildies are offline, you’re a noone like any other on LA with an exotic armor, and with your attitude, a loner haha

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

This thread, and my posts HERE are EXCLUSIVELY related to speedrun as SKIPPING 80% of the content. And this is the second time i have to type it.

1. 80% content?? this is second time I have said this, show me anything about this being done, anywhere, please. Is this 80% something you just randomly came up? did you divide time spent on each section by total length? is this related to something you posted previously about path 3 being skipped??

2. So all your “pathetic” "25 min noobpath “beggar’s run” are referring to something completely different? I guess there are so many evidence of this being done everywhere that my huge ego just prevented me from seeing it.

If you don’t even know what i’m talking about and how a speedrun is excecuted, don’t make me waste my time

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

If you’re begging me to give you an answer and peace, send me via PM a link of your video , and if i have time i’ll comment on it and we can have a discussion.

You can look it up yourself if you want to learn a thing or two.

ME learn. From you. Right. Lolz

I truly believe you will understand ( sooner or later) your video now you’re so proud (looking forward to see it hahaha ) will be just a source of fixes for Anet devs. So we will have a patch with classes underpowered, path harder on every exact part of your video when you’re powning adds, a pug way harder than it is today. Congrats lolz. Now you’re proud of it, enjoy till last

What is this, I don’t even… what??

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

Kevin.2176:

Your posts makes 0 sense, in any context or form. They are very incoherent and inconsistent.

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

Bro, go in peace, i (nor anyone else) gives a kitten of who you are and what you did and your “only video on internet” (which doesn’t means you and your group are the only one able to perform it, but i guess you’re having difficulties to get it haha ).

I have made 0 indication of this is only capable by us. I guess we are having difficulties???

Looking your attitude, you seems quite proud of your video, acting like if you video was a unique pearl ( i hope i will figure out which one haha )
and you some kind of elite or pro. One day you will figure out : when your elitefriends/guildies are offline, you’re a noone like any other on LA with an exotic armor, and with your attitude, a loner haha

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

This thread, and my posts HERE are EXCLUSIVELY related to speedrun as SKIPPING 80% of the content. And this is the second time i have to type it.

1. 80% content?? this is second time I have said this, show me anything about this being done, anywhere, please. Is this 80% something you just randomly came up? did you divide time spent on each section by total length? is this related to something you posted previously about path 3 being skipped??

2. So all your “pathetic” "25 min noobpath “beggar’s run” are referring to something completely different? I guess there are so many evidence of this being done everywhere that my huge ego just prevented me from seeing it.

If you don’t even know what i’m talking about and how a speedrun is excecuted, don’t make me waste my time

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

If you’re begging me to give you an answer and peace, send me via PM a link of your video , and if i have time i’ll comment on it and we can have a discussion.

You can look it up yourself if you want to learn a thing or two.

ME learn. From you. Right. Lolz

I truly believe you will understand ( sooner or later) your video now you’re so proud (looking forward to see it hahaha ) will be just a source of fixes for Anet devs. So we will have a patch with classes underpowered, path harder on every exact part of your video when you’re powning adds, a pug way harder than it is today. Congrats lolz. Now you’re proud of it, enjoy till last

He is talking about this thread:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Arah-rewards-and-YOU/first#post456542

To make it easier on you, I will quote you :

I will add a point 3 to the OP post (expecially after that video)

3: Anet, fix ASAP giganticus and adds AI not allowing anymore any speedrun nor wp corpse-runs.

Bring back the glory to this dungeon, put an end on those pug and people even opening threads like this asking a cheaper faster way to get this armor. Please.

I hope I helped you understand what he’s talking about

(Btw, I never said you couldn’t run arah, read my post twice before you get on your high horse.)

Ahhh that’s it. Thanks. And.. why he’s talking about that video here?
An OT for troll around, or a personal attack?

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

Ahhh that’s it. Thanks. And.. why he’s talking about that video here?
An OT for troll around, or a personal attack?

You are talking about Arah 25 min clears being “beggar’s run”, “noobpath” and as “pathetic”, no? I can quote you again if you really want.

This is even done before I even posted anything at all.

Kevin.2176:

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

Ahhh that’s it. Thanks. And.. why he’s talking about that video here?
An OT for troll around, or a personal attack?

You are talking about Arah 25 min clears being “beggar’s run”, “noobpath” and as “pathetic”, no? I can quote you again if you really want.

This is even done before I even posted anything at all.

So you truly need to be ridicolized. Fine
I wasted my time watching your video.
Yes, your run is exactly the beggar run i was talking about. But let me add haha
Your video begins after the first boss. So you seems cut off from your video :
the first video (skipped obiouvsly)
the choice (path 3)
Moving adds (because clearly you skipped all adds at entrance)
The entire fight with both bosses (fast, ok, but not a matter of 10 seconds both bosses, for sure)
So do you mind if we add 5/7 minutes?
I guess you’re truly proud of your pathetic abuse of speedboost skills skipping the entire dungeon, hahahaa
Just so you know, your kind of speedrun is done by plently pugs, daily. I just did a similar one, 32 minutes, 2 days ago, they forced me to behave (Was a bad time to find a new group, and i was curious).
Was a random pug.
One of us was a newbie of path 3. Hahahah
When i have time, try to whisp me, maybe i can teach you one thing or two about how arah adds fight against you, and how to deal with them. ( I can be deeply specific, every path)

Anet, please, fix this trash. Close doors along the path until all adds are killed, make a speedrun physically impossible. Please.

It is a 23 minute video.. for someone who doesn’t give a kitten about the video you sure do a thorough job of “ridicolizing” me.

I’m sorry that I didn’t press record early enough since I wasn’t in zone, lol. You can complete the zone in 32 minutes with pugs (funny how you remember exactly how long it is with random pugs, from 2 days ago), but you take 5-7 minutes on the first two bosses? are there any more random number you want to pull out of your kitten ? how about 80% of the instance skipped?

So you really think a group that is capable of one-shotting every single path with decent time would need help with trash mobs? Please tell me more about these deeply specific trash mobs mechanic. I’m dying to know.

Sure, it’s a 23 minutes video. Skipping 2 bosses and everything i listed before, lol
No need to be sorry, i can post arah path 3 done in 4 minutes, i’ll start my video from last boss lolz

Well ye, i remember it because not just i was curious, but much more was the fastest (and most ridiculous) way to complete an arah path i ever seen. But wait, you would be amazed if i showed you a pug we did during shardfarm days , when was possible to jump over the mountain using the tree. Was a 17 minutes clear path killing last boss too with random peeps i never met again (You know, even during shardfarm days, i was always trying to make people stay until the end, leading them if newbies)

5 minutes nearly, yes, if you add all i wrote AND the two bosses.

And yes, you skipped 80% of the path, am i wrong? You fought just a couple adds badly aggroed, the lupicus guardians, gorillas and bosses haha
Oh no, this is not the thread for in-depth about arah path 3. If i find free time for you, meet me in-game, i can teach you how to fight the real arah. Don’t worry i’m patient, i wait you if you’re died, running back to me, and i will explain you every single add pack strategy
Your video is just a shame on Anet devs, not able to just close doors until every adds is killed, allowing this trahsrun, and free tokens for beggars of a prestigious arah armor.
So ridiculous i even wasted my time watching this video and talking about it.

I’m getting a feeling I’m getting trolled like crazy, but I’ll bite.

Ok, like I stated few posts back. Since we are obviously not up to your supreme standards, and despite having cleared every single Arah path multiple times, and farmed enough tokens for close to 3 Arah sets (sorry I don’t do obvious terrain exploits), we are yet “pathetic” “beggars” not worthy of lol the armor you are wearing.

My offer still stands, any path of your choosing, in any instance, any trash + boss, however you want to clear it. We can make this a friendly little challenge.

If you truly believe i waste my time competing with players who use speedbooster skills with 0 idea how to deal with a single Deadshot mob or any other arah add pack, you’re quite wrong. I compete with people who play better than me killing all in a better way
THIS is the topic and what we are talking about where you trolled , wasting a page talking about your run.
One day i will teach you how to do your run invisible all the time until bosses with 0 aggro haha (And i’m a necro, don’t forget )

It is perfectly understandable to back out. Like I said before, any way YOU want to clear it, aka, anything you kill we will kill.

P.S. they are called Deadeyes

The text disappeared typing accidentally. “Deadeye shot” was the full text.
Looking forward to it. It’s fun the “we” you used hahaha
Seeems you lost i made my entire armor and my achievement with pugs of random peeps i rarely met more than 2 times
I guess if you’re alone with some pug guys i’ll randomly provide not so pro who will need some more rev than usual (and bit more crazy performance revving them staying alive) will truly show who you really are Don’t be scared, i’m patient, i explain and help i told ya And you’re even proud of the amount of 3 arah armor stolen with your speedrun? You would deserve a permaban for abuse of an exploit, to be honest

You know, for such an attitude having person and what a loner I am, I actually met plenty of people doing these runs, and guess what, there is this wonderful list feature in guild wars for you contact them and befriend them for future runs. This is where my “we” came from what happened to your “elites”?

So what run is this going to be? you can PM me if you don’t want to clutter these forums with more OT.

So you’re admitting alone with my pug of random peeps (my typical pug who gave me armor and ach, this is how i met real talents) , you’re a noone hanging around LA , acting as a pro on pug chats spreading a "shush noob " here and there until blocked
Yes, we can talk more ingame (if i have free time for you to teach the entire adds arah content)

what…? I’m having a really hard time understanding majority of your posts

so are you up to this challenge? you can bring all your real talents, I’ll bring the people I met just fraps a run of any path, screenshot the start/finish time if you want, or just provide any form of evidence, and I’ll show you a frapsed version of the same path of us clearing it with faster time.

Since you are so convinced we can’t do simple trash, I am willing to go this far just to prove a point on the internet.

Lucas, you need to chill. I know you want to be one of the few people with Arah armor but you’re not, and there are plenty of us that have done this dungeon quire frequently with and without pug groups. You want things to be more difficult and take more time? Killing all those mobs for no payoff eats my real life time. I would not mind killing trash if they were not trash (they don’t even drop matts I can use) and there was a chance to pick up 2.5 tokens or something of each kill. Going through the dungeon, I have stopped even picking up blue chest loot. Once you get a rythum to killing in arah, it’s not that bad.

I would never kill all the mobs, because there is no gain. If I can skip them, I would. ESPECIALLY, because there is only one path right now unless your group is good. Path 3 is doable because of the waypoint management. Path 1, which I think is really easy right up until Giganticus, sucks because after you kill the stupid tar beast (which is easy) there is no waypoint. thus if you do wipe, you reset

Path 2, I have not done much because it takes a long time and my adhd kicks in and I don’t want to waste time in a dungeon. anything longer than 2 hours and im wasting real life.

Path 4 requires a good group, and you need to know the dungeon, and how to use tricks to kill the final boss.

I just dislike that there is only one path that you can do, which requires effort but not a chunk out of my playing time. I like playing gw2, but i really dislike the dungeons. they are boring, undynamic, and give you nothing but the shards. OF COURSE, I will keep doing it until my set is complete (need masque and legs) but after that, I won’t go into it, unless i get bored and need to do a legendary.

Other than that, arah is boring, and I would rather be pvping.

No you misunderstand me. I don’t give a kitten of who you are and what you want to accomplish, nor your childish competition to help Anet devs to ruin faster this game underpowering everything (i told ya, there is nothing faster than speedboost +invisible run 0 aggro till bosses haha ). I’m happy of what i am and what i got, and to have friends happy to call me to have fun, and call them to join me. I’m not in competition with you or anyone at all. The only thing i’m interested of is learn better ways to deal the entire gw2 content with better performance (speedboosting beggar runs not included, more than 1 time to see something new) , and craft the most beautiful weapons for my class. You, enjoy your competition. I’m sorry, i explained more than enough how pathetic i consider speedbooster runs, forget me and my name at all

No doubt gryph. I totally agree with you the loottable is pathetic, and kill adds is a waste of time. Right back to the topic, just saying
But you will admit fight just bosses skipping every adds and the lupicus kitefight using the wp is idiot and must be fixed. And speedruns like that video must be closed forever.
Feel free to call me ingame, we can do a nonbeggar run together, path 3 and even 2. Both can be done in 1:30 minutes playing normally, no stress, with a random medium high performance group

I think you are misunderstanding me. I am willing to clear ANYTHING you clear, aka EVERY SINGLE MOB in the instance if you prefer.

Since you are so sure that we are just pathetic bunch of beggars that isn’t worthy of the “prestigious Arah gear”, feel free to take the challenge. Your post is quite hilarious and ironic at the same time. The prime measurement of performance is time, (quality is not a factor in this case, since you can’t obtain more than 60 tokens per run), yet you are backing out on people that you look down upon?

Any artificial standard you want to throw out there, any mobs you deemed as acceptable to skip or not skip, just let me know, don’t let a bunch of “pathetic beggars” put you to shame.

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

No you misunderstand me. I don’t give a kitten of who you are and what you want to accomplish, nor your childish competition to help Anet devs to ruin faster this game underpowering everything (i told ya, there is nothing faster than speedboost +invisible run 0 aggro till bosses haha ). I’m happy of what i am and what i got, and to have friends happy to call me to have fun, and call them to join me. I’m not in competition with you or anyone at all. The only thing i’m interested of is learn better ways to deal the entire gw2 content with better performance (speedboosting beggar runs not included, more than 1 time to see something new) , and craft the most beautiful weapons for my class. You, enjoy your competition. I’m sorry, i explained more than enough how pathetic i consider speedbooster runs, forget me and my name at all

No doubt gryph. I totally agree with you the loottable is pathetic, and kill adds is a waste of time. Right back to the topic, just saying
But you will admit fight just bosses and the lupicus kitefight using the wp is idiot and must be fixed. And speedruns like that video must be closed forever

Hey, I am not supporting the speedrun, but It would be ridiculous to kill everything, and too time consuming. Ill kill stuff directly in my path, and I will run around groups of mobs that I don’t need to kill. I have never done a speedrun. I have done a solid, kill a path to the boss run that was just under 1 hour (Best run with a good group.) However, I have grown to hate arah because its the same thing over and over again just to get a skin, and of course, im a gamer so I am doing it, but its BORING. I am a necro, that armor is perfect for necros The other paths are to time consuming, and give you the same kitten shards. so, I will always choose path 3, because I know i can complete with a pug group.

What makes things more difficult is that a lot of people hate arah, thus finding groups is difficult. Whole guilds don’t even want to do them. Usually people do it for the shards to buy the weapons, but the rest of the armor is kitten looking unless your a necro

A measurement of performance is time yes. Time used to clear a path dealing with every adds, the entire group is not allowed to blink, nor do a micronesimal downed state, playing like under drugs. Forget it, i play for fun, i enjoy the community, not my chronometer. This is what makes me part of the elite of my server, my attitude. Not my timings, acting as a wierdo “i’m pro you all shush noobs” attitude, thinking buttonspamming a speedrun skill is elitism

Hehe, Gryph. Me too , i try to evade an useless fight with the giant on path 3, he’s a threat, i hate when he’s aggroed haha Agree, until we will have a patch about loot (seems it’s coming on monday) , kill all adds is a waste of time. But trust me, it forged what today is a list of great players i’m proud to be friend of. Like Rissi, Chaarazard, Malkier and Jukaga, great players i met on a pug i organized, we did path 4 and next day path 1 with loads of fun and pure awesomeness (no beggarskip)
Agree, i got bored of arah too, from when i completed my armor. I was thinking to farm a bit more for weapons but nah, i play sometimes path 3 just when in the mood, if a pug is forming on LA. I have the staff i love and fit my armor too (coe staff), i’m working on an uber one crafted via mystic forge, a bit expensive hehe

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

This is what makes me part of the elite of my server, my attitude.

I’m quoting this because I think I will probably put this in my signature soon.

Anyways, I don’t consider myself any of those things you randomly mentioned, I don’t believe I have made any indication of such.

My entire point that you so conveniently bypassed is that, if a group is capable of completing all paths of Arah at a relatively decent pace, it is simply laughable to assert they are unable to clear the trash they skipped.

This is probably hard for you to accept, but there are many people out there with full Arah gear. I find it extremely hard to believe that someone who plays for the “community” goes out of their way to insult another group purely due to some elevated standard that you do not even follow yourself.

You don’t have to take my challenge, you also don’t have any basis to make your “beggar’s run” “pathetic” “newbies” who don’t understand simple trash mechanics.

I never directly offended you, or your fellows. I consider everyone doing shardfarm before, and speedruns like your video today, with those “terms”.
Feel free to play the game the way you prefer, improve it if you want. (Until patched hopefully forever)
Your ego blinded you enough (as much an user tried to point you where your ego was pushing, 1 page ago) to not see what kind of useless 2 people chat you made for 2 pages, still throwing yourself and an other thread on this thread who talks about something else, a video never mentioned, pretending every post i made is talking with you, and i don’t know why you even think i’m barely interested on a competition too haha This is called trolling, and i’m sorry if you didn’t find a competitor for who do a spambutton of speedboost better haha (still i repeat you, you cannot beat an invisible run walking between adds 0 aggro until you approach the boss, but you still keep talking about a competition haha ).

And no, i never said i’m the only arah armor fullset player of this planet. Lots did a fullset during shardfarm days in a few hours (and 0 idea of what arah is).
I just hope to be one of the few for long, long time.

I’m not going to bother going back and quoting every single “beggar” “pathetic” and “unworthy” comments you have made in the past two pages. Those are magically directed at someone else in this two people conversation?

Until you show me a screenshot or a video or anything at all of another Arah 25 min run being done that is being posted on these forums, I’m going to assume your comments are directed towards me/my group. This isn’t an ego problem or whatever elitism issue you made up. You have quoted my video, addressed DIRECTLY at it, and based your whole argument off that run. Am I supposed to just ignore it and think differently?

You are very inconsistent in your posting, and it is quite hard to keep up all the different points you dabbled around (some are even contradicting).

Understand that, no matter what kind of gating mechanism, leashing, zone wide aggro, or any other mechanic that Anet decided to implement, there will always be speed clears. There will always be people trying to clear things more efficiently than others, this is a challenge to some, and to those probably the only interesting PvE goals left in the game after Dungeon Master.

The fact that you believe you’re part of “an elite group on your server” really makes me wonder if you know what ego is.

You quoted my post saying how I can clear it under 25mins and posted that basicly I’m a “beggar” for my 60 tokens, that I am unworthy of wearing Arah armor and I play like a newbie.
I understand that you dislike people speed clearing dungeons, but don’t go out and insult people that are doing it saying they are unworthy of “your” armor.
And the fact that you assume we don’t know what the trash mobs do and you want to white knight us and hold our hands and explain what trash mobs do just makes me wonder if you can comprehend what you’re reading.

Fed trolls and bruised egos. Why is this thread still continuing? Lucas needs to accept that not everyone likes to run dungeons the way he does, and not doing so is not an exploit. Kevin should stop biting the trolls; it’s clear that Lucas doesn’t understand, but it didn’t help that you tried to present an argument of “I’ve done arah in 25 minutes, bow down”.

Stick to groups where people play the way YOU want to play instead of trying to force everyone to play your way. There is no RIGHT way to play this game or to complete dungeons, only different ways, varying in terms of loot and efficiency.

The sooner people come to terms with that, the sooner we can have actual discussions about dungeons. None of this “QQ PPL DUN PLAY HOW I WUNT TO PLZ FIX”.

Arah is fine, no changes needed. Plenty of other dungeons (and equipment) avaible, if you think it takes too much time.

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Stick to groups where people play the way YOU want to play instead of trying to force everyone to play your way. There is no RIGHT way to play this game or to complete dungeons, only different ways, varying in terms of loot and efficiency.

Well said. Unless Anet directly addresses something as not acceptable, or it just borderlines as an exploit (aka terrain or waypoint exploitation), I consider everything to be fair game. There is absolutely no “correct” way of doing something unless Anet makes it public its original design intent (good example being Magg).

I want to apologize for derailing a legitimate discussion for almost two pages. I probably didn’t have the best self control when a person directly insults me and my group repeatedly in three different threads (either intentional or otherwise).

However, it does really bother me that some of the most vocal voice in this community are also the ones that can’t see beyond their own way of doing things, and would go as far as criticizing those that do things differently, in the least constructive way possible.

Well, The Mexican Cookie, i never said my way of play is THE way, and everything else is trash.
I just want fixed as soon as possible those easy skip-all runs, and MOSTLY the giganticus wp kite fight, the most idiot way to kill a boss i never see on an mmo. And i truly believe everyone will confirm the wp kitefight is just pathetic.
I was sure was clear my point, and who i was talking with: everyone abusing the content stealing tokens, not just those 2 users i never gave a kitten nor i remember their name at all, they are a noone like billion others, alone on LA ( i have to scroll this thread to remember their name, and they was 100% sure i even watched their video haha ). They throw themself as if they was my interlocutor, i was like "Wt.. who is this people, a video? An other thread? What was his name? Ah wait i’ll quote "
Over all, i find uberfun they truly, deeply believe to be the only group of players of this planet able to do a speedboost run. They don’t want to believe me EVERY, and i repeat EVERY single path 3 pug i join do a speedclear with the exact same timing of that video , expecially if the pug is made of farmers. A newbie, on the pug, is the only possible delay, expecially on lupicus. But if the group is a group of random daily farmers, they perform EXACTLY as that video, maybe 1-3 minute more slower (the real timing of that funny video is 31-32 minutes, they still push and believe they made it under 25 minutes haha ) a typical pug is around 35 40 minutes, i rarely go over this timing with random peeps found on LA playing path 3 with a speedfarmer group. Sadly, this is the majority. Who met me remember perfectly my comments complaining about the skip and inviting to fight at least some key nodes, and attempt a normal fight against lupicus , a couple attempts at least, explaining them how to deal with him. If you got the point, they are illuded, and scared Anet fix everything. They don’t think Anet can just close doors around (it’s full of gates, after all) until all adds are dead, and speedruns will just die (and when lupicus wp kitefight is fixed, the end of pug of losers)
Arah is meant to be long and hard, a final extreme challenge for a player who want a final great challenge. The speedrun is just a fail and a smack to the face of the programmers. This doesn’t means they gave up accepting the fail