Guild Wars 2

it is to long and the last boss is hard enough NOT TO MENTION THE AGONY YOU WILL PUT ON HIM ! !
if the current situation of ar is fractal 1 on 38 IT WILL BE HELL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS NOT AION WITH 5h DUNGEONS !

what in god’s name

Actually this would fit quite well as a Fractal.
Both the first boss (with the walls) and the last one would work great and have easily addable agony.

Add it to fractals and just tweak the final boss so it’s a bit shorter (10 electric stacks to 5 and cut AoE phases in half, or just have only 1 long AoE phase that happens at 50%) and cut out some of the trash packs in the middle. It’s a great dungeon just needs a couple changes to make it into a fractal.

Though I’m not sure what should give agony for the final boss. I was thinking the fire AoE from Horrik during the shield phase, but that would also register to the barrage AoE phase which would be overkill. Maybe something like Frenzied Horrik’s attacks cause agony (but that would be too easy).

Svetli.4276:

it is to long and the last boss is hard enough NOT TO MENTION THE AGONY YOU WILL PUT ON HIM ! !
if the current situation of ar is fractal 1 on 38 IT WILL BE HELL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS NOT AION WITH 5h DUNGEONS !

What did I just read?

Svetli.4276:

it is to long and the last boss is hard enough NOT TO MENTION THE AGONY YOU WILL PUT ON HIM ! !
if the current situation of ar is fractal 1 on 38 IT WILL BE HELL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS NOT AION WITH 5h DUNGEONS !

Cry me rivers baby!

It would be a new and interesting challenge for sure. I dunno though, time-wise I’m not sure many FOTM speed run groups would like it. I can’t imagine what it would be like if you had bad luck in a PUG group with it as well; it might give you 2x more trouble than dredge (Yeah, I’ve had bad luck doing dredge in PUG groups… ). But time-wise I dunno if it should be in fractals. I mean we all know that time spent in fractals does not equate to the proper rewards.

if it gives 1g for level 1-9, 2g for 10-19, 3g for 20-29, 4g for 30-39, 5g for 40-49, everyone would want it, and to those who don’t know what’s he’s talking about, he’s talking about anet adding aetherblade retreat to the fractals, don’t know if they ever mentioned they’d do that though

Way to find the faintest possible whiff of a potential future minor problem and work yourself into a frenzied state over it. Well done, OP.

well i also expect them to do a mess with AR in fractal.

Mostly because people are forced to go glass cannon in fractal thank to things like veteran grawls and old tom….
(but not only…being GC helps everywhere in fotm)

So if they put this designed around tanks will be awful.

They should stop to design class/build requirements for dungeons…if they did it wrong designing around dps barriers its as bad putting armor/hp barriers.

Oh, I must have missed the memo about being forced to go glass cannon in fractals, since I have never done that and yet I have done quite a few Fractals.

lordkrall.7241:

Oh, I must have missed the memo about being forced to go glass cannon in fractals, since I have never done that and yet I have done quite a few Fractals.

That is because you still have to understand fractal mechanic probably or you wouldn t argue about 4 out of 5 being locked in GC.

And how pointless is having armor/HP at higher levels.

Hey Anet?!, do it , DO IT!!!! ad that in fractal, you all know its good.

Srsly if you dont want a challenge at all…. why you dont just read a book, take a walk outside, or just watch TV?
This thing is no Hardmode so just learn it -.-

You guys are aware that they’re probably not going to add aetherblade retreat to fractals, they probably never even thought about doing that, and now that someone is raging about something that they didn’t even think of doing it, it’s more reason for them not to do it, oh wait… this anet we’re talking about, then we’ll probably have aetherblade retreat as a fractal with 2x the difficulty and 1/10 the reward

Bismuth.3165:

You guys are aware that they’re probably not going to add aetherblade retreat to fractals, they probably never even thought about doing that, and now that someone is raging about something that they didn’t even think of doing it, it’s more reason for them not to do it, oh wait… this anet we’re talking about, then we’ll probably have aetherblade retreat as a fractal with 2x the difficulty and 1/10 the reward

you are not well informed..

Look in living story section you will find a post about it.

EDIT: Deleted smart kitten post as I realised he meant AR = Aetherblade Retreat, makes post make sense.

This would be the only fractal that insta-gibs pets. Maybe ANET’s plan is to get rid of ranger in pve entirely? I’m completely against adding this as a fractal. At least fractals are fun. This dungeon, aetherblade, is a steaming pile of kitten.

Ram Banson.4081:

Hey Anet?!, do it , DO IT!!!! ad that in fractal, you all know its good.

Srsly if you dont want a challenge at all…. why you dont just read a book, take a walk outside, or just watch TV?
This thing is no Hardmode so just learn it -.-

Hey Reading a book or taking a walk can ALSO be a challenge, depending on circumstances

Chopps, I actually enjoy having a ranger in grp especially for boss fight. Pet rezz, nature spirit, bear pet… all nice things to have if used correctly. Stun, snare, also nice.

LordByron.8369:

Bismuth.3165:

You guys are aware that they’re probably not going to add aetherblade retreat to fractals, they probably never even thought about doing that, and now that someone is raging about something that they didn’t even think of doing it, it’s more reason for them not to do it, oh wait… this anet we’re talking about, then we’ll probably have aetherblade retreat as a fractal with 2x the difficulty and 1/10 the reward

you are not well informed..

Look in living story section you will find a post about it.

Seriously? can you link it?
It’s not really that bad if you have a good group, but what saddens me is that it’s going to be more difficult with lower rewards if they ever added it to the fractals

ColinJohanson.2394:

And as mentioned earlier, the dungeons people enjoy from our living world release will be researched by the keepers of the Fractals of the Mist and used as way to continue to expand and build on our fractals permanently going forward.

I don’t read they will take the dungeon and put it in the fractals. Do you?

What I think after reading this is more like they just try to capture what makes this dungeon likeable and/or the good mechanics, and use those in the future fractals.

Fror.2163:

I don’t read they will take the dungeon and put it in the fractals. Do you?

What I think after reading this is more like they just try to capture what makes this dungeon likeable and/or the good mechanics, and use those in the future fractals.

Actually the whole Fractals of the Mist dungeon is about the NPC researching the mists and such.

Yasi.9065:

Ram Banson.4081:

Hey Anet?!, do it , DO IT!!!! ad that in fractal, you all know its good.

Srsly if you dont want a challenge at all…. why you dont just read a book, take a walk outside, or just watch TV?
This thing is no Hardmode so just learn it -.-

Hey Reading a book or taking a walk can ALSO be a challenge, depending on circumstances

Chopps, I actually enjoy having a ranger in grp especially for boss fight. Pet rezz, nature spirit, bear pet… all nice things to have if used correctly. Stun, snare, also nice.

I’m fairly certain you’re in the minority. There’s few redeeming qualities and no need to snare. All you need in dungeons are reflection, group stability, and DPS and the ranger can only do one of those things (reflection). Interesting how guardian does all three. Jon P wasn’t lying when he said guardian would be the cleric profession to end all clerics. Your best bet in any gamemode is always guardian. :p

Chopps.5047:

I’m fairly certain you’re in the minority. There’s few redeeming qualities and no need to snare. All you need in dungeons are reflection, group stability, and DPS and the ranger can only do one of those things (reflection). Interesting how guardian does all three. Jon P wasn’t lying when he said guardian would be the cleric profession to end all clerics. Your best bet in any gamemode is always guardian. :p

Why so down on Rangers, Chopps? Where did this ranger-loving fellow from 4 days ago go?

Chopps.5047:

On the last boss fight, if you are doing a speed run, you have to alternate what you attack: Mai or her add. Doing this in the right order (google it) prevents a HUGE aoe from spamming the arena. Speed runs in this dungeon will want to aboid the time consuming aoe but also must be good enough to focus down targets with the right amount of power. You can’t just feedback land aegis while dropping 100b like they do on the kitten Lupicus video.

Now you DON’T have to play this way. If you run it like a pick up group you will just accept that you will be dodging aoe. There’s a chance to lose a pet. Swiftness, careful dodges, well timed swaps, and signet of stone are important.

Rangers must be strong. ANET is challenging us, not hating us. They love us. So they make it hard, forcing us to improve. It’s NOT an unfair fight to rangers.

I hope that helps.

Broadicea.8294:

Chopps.5047:

I’m fairly certain you’re in the minority. There’s few redeeming qualities and no need to snare. All you need in dungeons are reflection, group stability, and DPS and the ranger can only do one of those things (reflection). Interesting how guardian does all three. Jon P wasn’t lying when he said guardian would be the cleric profession to end all clerics. Your best bet in any gamemode is always guardian. :p

Why so down on Rangers, Chopps? Where did this ranger-loving fellow from 4 days ago go?

Chopps.5047:

On the last boss fight, if you are doing a speed run, you have to alternate what you attack: Mai or her add. Doing this in the right order (google it) prevents a HUGE aoe from spamming the arena. Speed runs in this dungeon will want to aboid the time consuming aoe but also must be good enough to focus down targets with the right amount of power. You can’t just feedback land aegis while dropping 100b like they do on the kitten Lupicus video.

Now you DON’T have to play this way. If you run it like a pick up group you will just accept that you will be dodging aoe. There’s a chance to lose a pet. Swiftness, careful dodges, well timed swaps, and signet of stone are important.

Rangers must be strong. ANET is challenging us, not hating us. They love us. So they make it hard, forcing us to improve. It’s NOT an unfair fight to rangers.

I hope that helps.

Heheh, that guy isn’t around anymore :P

Broadicea.8294:

Chopps.5047:

I’m fairly certain you’re in the minority. There’s few redeeming qualities and no need to snare. All you need in dungeons are reflection, group stability, and DPS and the ranger can only do one of those things (reflection). Interesting how guardian does all three. Jon P wasn’t lying when he said guardian would be the cleric profession to end all clerics. Your best bet in any gamemode is always guardian. :p

Why so down on Rangers, Chopps? Where did this ranger-loving fellow from 4 days ago go?

Chopps.5047:

On the last boss fight, if you are doing a speed run, you have to alternate what you attack: Mai or her add. Doing this in the right order (google it) prevents a HUGE aoe from spamming the arena. Speed runs in this dungeon will want to aboid the time consuming aoe but also must be good enough to focus down targets with the right amount of power. You can’t just feedback land aegis while dropping 100b like they do on the kitten Lupicus video.

Now you DON’T have to play this way. If you run it like a pick up group you will just accept that you will be dodging aoe. There’s a chance to lose a pet. Swiftness, careful dodges, well timed swaps, and signet of stone are important.

Rangers must be strong. ANET is challenging us, not hating us. They love us. So they make it hard, forcing us to improve. It’s NOT an unfair fight to rangers.

I hope that helps.

Reality sucks but I’m glad you’re here :o

Thx swiftpaw. Ironic you posted that bc I figure I’ve taken the profession as far as I can and am moving on to getting back to things IRL. Good luck out there fellas

Chopps.5047:

Thx swiftpaw. Ironic you posted that bc I figure I’ve taken the profession as far as I can and am moving on to getting back to things IRL. Good luck out there fellas

Aw well I hope you still play from time to time ^^

I’ll still play occasionally, primarily wvw or spvp, particularly since I’ll have some time off work in the next few days. But I won’t pull the hours I used to. Sometimes you just have to move on, swiftpaw. Like you said, reality sucks. It was one hell of a ride though and one of the better gaming experiences I’ve had. (lifelong gamer)

Chopps.5047:

Broadicea.8294:

Chopps.5047:

I’m fairly certain you’re in the minority. There’s few redeeming qualities and no need to snare. All you need in dungeons are reflection, group stability, and DPS and the ranger can only do one of those things (reflection). Interesting how guardian does all three. Jon P wasn’t lying when he said guardian would be the cleric profession to end all clerics. Your best bet in any gamemode is always guardian. :p

Why so down on Rangers, Chopps? Where did this ranger-loving fellow from 4 days ago go?

Chopps.5047:

On the last boss fight, if you are doing a speed run, you have to alternate what you attack: Mai or her add. Doing this in the right order (google it) prevents a HUGE aoe from spamming the arena. Speed runs in this dungeon will want to aboid the time consuming aoe but also must be good enough to focus down targets with the right amount of power. You can’t just feedback land aegis while dropping 100b like they do on the kitten Lupicus video.

Now you DON’T have to play this way. If you run it like a pick up group you will just accept that you will be dodging aoe. There’s a chance to lose a pet. Swiftness, careful dodges, well timed swaps, and signet of stone are important.

Rangers must be strong. ANET is challenging us, not hating us. They love us. So they make it hard, forcing us to improve. It’s NOT an unfair fight to rangers.

I hope that helps.

Heheh, that guy isn’t around anymore :P

LoLs. I think my Ranger tests may have led to that. Here’s hoping it actually brings about some well needed changes. But for now, remember to pick up the stick at bloomhunger and spike at the end!

lordkrall.7241:

Actually this would fit quite well as a Fractal.
Both the first boss (with the walls) and the last one would work great and have easily addable agony.

Negative

The Mai fight is way too much like Dhuum. Way too much HP’s, & too much repitition of gimmicky padded out nonsense. Cut her HP’s in half and maybe it can be made permanent… Also add normal Lackies chasing us around during the bombardment stage so we actually have something to Rally off of before the often unavoidable cannon spam completely kills those players who aren’t fortunate enough to have the ridiculous levels of both condition removals & health regen + speed that my nature’s voice Ranger (or also some niche Guardians/Thieves) has.**

• *This doesn’t mean rangers are good…most rangers are complete Trash for this and most people couldn’t do this even with my build b/c it requires making a macro that they might get banned for … yeah, awesome Trait change ANET, force people to Macro in order to get anything out of it! Keep up the awesome “balance” =P …. oh and don’t bother letting us modify our User Interfaces and .INI’s like Unreal Engine, and Halflife engine, and about a dozen others did for basically EVERY GAME EVER MADE ON THEM…. Oh and GW1 engine also… now that I think about it….

If you want to see how the average Ranger does, just watch Eugene’s latest Vid.
Highly recommended for entertainment value. It’s almost Flimsii tier…
(i have roughly 25% more HP&tough, AAAAND 200% more Regen than Eugene’s)

obal.3218:

Chopps.5047:

Broadicea.8294:

Chopps.5047:

I’m fairly certain you’re in the minority. There’s few redeeming qualities and no need to snare. All you need in dungeons are reflection, group stability, and DPS and the ranger can only do one of those things (reflection). Interesting how guardian does all three. Jon P wasn’t lying when he said guardian would be the cleric profession to end all clerics. Your best bet in any gamemode is always guardian. :p

Why so down on Rangers, Chopps? Where did this ranger-loving fellow from 4 days ago go?

Chopps.5047:

On the last boss fight, if you are doing a speed run, you have to alternate what you attack: Mai or her add. Doing this in the right order (google it) prevents a HUGE aoe from spamming the arena. Speed runs in this dungeon will want to aboid the time consuming aoe but also must be good enough to focus down targets with the right amount of power. You can’t just feedback land aegis while dropping 100b like they do on the kitten Lupicus video.

Now you DON’T have to play this way. If you run it like a pick up group you will just accept that you will be dodging aoe. There’s a chance to lose a pet. Swiftness, careful dodges, well timed swaps, and signet of stone are important.

Rangers must be strong. ANET is challenging us, not hating us. They love us. So they make it hard, forcing us to improve. It’s NOT an unfair fight to rangers.

I hope that helps.

Heheh, that guy isn’t around anymore :P

LoLs. I think my Ranger tests may have led to that. Here’s hoping it actually brings about some well needed changes. But for now, remember to pick up the stick at bloomhunger and spike at the end!

You wish, Obal. You think I never knew ranger did more damage with items like Fiery Greatsword? Only noobs didn’t know that about ranger. To me, all you did was prove how little you know about the profession.

I have priorities IRL that have been neglected far too long. Have fun optimizing builds for your digital shinies. I’ll still be out there kicking the crap out of DnT in the Mists >:) because Death and Taxes is what you fellas experience when you play Strikeforce.