Easy mode raids

Easy mode raids

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Posted by: keramatzmode.1906

keramatzmode.1906

Here’s my suggestion, dont worry its not as bad.

There will be hardcore and normal. Hardcore is the usual 10 man. Normal is 20 man raids.

Normal raids only consists two bosses, which will not lead to the final boss, you have to play hardcore for that. Want to fight Sabetha or Xera? gotta git gud and get into hardcore. However, all mechanics and difficulty will be the same, it will be the same outcome if you don’t do certain mechanics that will result in a wipe.

Normal raids can have 20 people into the raid. and rewards will only be given out after you clear both two bosses. for example, you have to kill both VG and Gorserval to get 1 LI and some magnetite shards, so that they can gear their ascended stuff before getting into hardcore and thats it. You wont get to progress anymore. It also allows people who done their hardcore raid to get into normal raids for extra LI.

To encourage players git gud for hardcore, new layers will be given a “newbie” buff for bosses they never cleared before in hardcore mode. Upon a clear, everyone in squad will get an extra LI as a token of appreciation guiding new raiders.

Or they could just join the current raids and do those as we have no reason to lower difficulty what so ever.

With the current barrier of LI requirement? Not likely unless you join a raiding guild that offers training. The “just join” mentality is severely contradicting what the raid community looks like in LFG. “make your own training squad” is nothing more but bullkitten.

Like I said, my suggestion simply offers a win-win situation, a difficulty that retains intact, but with more people to run with. In addition, the last boss content is cut to motivate/tease them for harder content. Gives the incentive for raiding veteran to roll with them for that extra 1 LI.

The “newbie” boon is also a good addition and worked well with other MMOs. Anyone going against this is contradicting themselves to keep “newbies” away from our sekrit club raids.

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Posted by: TexZero.7910

TexZero.7910

Here’s my suggestion, dont worry its not as bad.

There will be hardcore and normal. Hardcore is the usual 10 man. Normal is 20 man raids.

Normal raids only consists two bosses, which will not lead to the final boss, you have to play hardcore for that. Want to fight Sabetha or Xera? gotta git gud and get into hardcore. However, all mechanics and difficulty will be the same, it will be the same outcome if you don’t do certain mechanics that will result in a wipe.

Normal raids can have 20 people into the raid. and rewards will only be given out after you clear both two bosses. for example, you have to kill both VG and Gorserval to get 1 LI and some magnetite shards, so that they can gear their ascended stuff before getting into hardcore and thats it. You wont get to progress anymore. It also allows people who done their hardcore raid to get into normal raids for extra LI.

To encourage players git gud for hardcore, new layers will be given a “newbie” buff for bosses they never cleared before in hardcore mode. Upon a clear, everyone in squad will get an extra LI as a token of appreciation guiding new raiders.

Or they could just join the current raids and do those as we have no reason to lower difficulty what so ever.

With the current barrier of LI requirement? Not likely unless you join a raiding guild that offers training. The “just join” mentality is severely contradicting what the raid community looks like in LFG. “make your own training squad” is nothing more but bullkitten.

Like I said, my suggestion simply offers a win-win situation, a difficulty that retains intact, but with more people to run with. In addition, the last boss content is cut to motivate/tease them for harder content. Gives the incentive for raiding veteran to roll with them for that extra 1 LI.

The “newbie” boon is also a good addition and worked well with other MMOs. Anyone going against this is contradicting themselves to keep “newbies” away from our sekrit club raids.

What LI barrier, you mean that artificial thing set by groups ?

That thing you can just as equally ignore by creating your own groups. Yeah, i see no issue here.

The last thing raids needs is multiple modes. It kills raiding for everyone as there’s never a point in time to do anything other than the path of least resistance.

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Posted by: Joxer.6024

Joxer.6024

Only thing this game could do with is a few less mechanics per boss fight, that’s all. No easy modes needed really as there are very doable at their current stage. I am 56, the wife is 55, we both come from years of WOW playing and we are both (she worse than me,lol) clickers. That in itself can make raids really really tuff but we manage. She hits top dps on her Ele and I do ok as cPS. So easy mode? Nah, not needed.
But…..having what seems like 12 mechanics in one fight is a bit overkill!! Dodge this, don’t stand in this, watch for his pounding and swinging and oh yea, now find a teammate with the same debuff and get to them! Or you got posion,,,get the f out!!! LOL.
WOW had “don’t stand in the fire” and in the Naxx the evr fun “safety dance” (google it) and with debuffs you simply dropped em behind the group as the tank kited the boss around.
We are getting better though and given that most “raid teams” do 13 bosses in 3 or so hours I don’t see either of our requests happening.

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Posted by: IndigoSundown.5419

IndigoSundown.5419

20-man as a solution to easy raid mode desires?

The problem — if there is a significant one — is that people who want to get into raids can’t due to being unacceptable to PuG groups. The solution offered for that is that those people make the effort to form a group, develop a friends’ list or get into a guild that will do raids. The objection to that solution is that players want to drop in, join a group and raid with minimal fuss and inconvenience.

Having done 10 and 25 man raids elsewhere, the biggest differences for larger groups is the greater organizational challenge and greater inconvenience of waiting on more people. You need to wait for more people to join in, a single, “Need to AFK a minute.” usually leads to 5 or 6 more, a minute away stretches to 10, more people means greater possibility for dissent, anger and drama. I doubt people who are unwilling to wait, organize or be inconvenienced for a 10 man are going to be willing to wait, organize or be inconvenienced by a 20-man.

There would likely be no benefit at all for PuG’s. I can see some benefit for people who want easier raids and who already have a guild or group, but just don’t have the skill or will to deal with harder encounters. However, those people have shown little willingness to engage with the easier encounters, Also, how much of a joke would the easier encounters be with twice the players? We need only look at persistent world meta events to see the effects of outnumbering content.

Finally, there would, however, still be the spectre of rewards. Would 20-man offer the means to make L. Armor? If so, you’d see regular raiders farming those, following the path of least resistance. If not, much of the “want easy mode” crowd would not want to engage with the easier mode.

Nice try, but I don’t think so.

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Posted by: narcx.3570

narcx.3570

With the current barrier of LI requirement? Not likely unless you join a raiding guild that offers training. The “just join” mentality is severely contradicting what the raid community looks like in LFG. “make your own training squad” is nothing more but bullkitten.

I haven’t seen a group asking for LI’s in a real long time in LFG… These days it’s all about kill proof. And, really, it has been for months now… LI’s slowly faded away as A) people learned how to fake the code, and B.) enough time has passed for people to have failed their way through escort 50 times.

Also, how is telling somebody to make their own training squad bullkitten? Is it unreasonable to ask somebody who doesn’t like the way groups are being run to just start their own group? Somebody’s gotta start every group that ends up in LFG—why can’t it be you? Sooooo, it’s unreasonable to ask you to start a training group and actually learn the fights, but it’s totally reasonable to ask Anet to program an entirely different training-wheels mode for what is, honestly, already pretty easy content once you get in there and ACTUALLY TRY IT. I don’t get the QQ here…

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Posted by: Linken.6345

Linken.6345

Well most of the li request now range from 100-250+ kill profs so yea failing through escort 50 times dont cut it