Guild Wars 2

Keep it RNG. When it rolls the chance for a skin, have it give 3 random choices you can choose from, bit like story rewards.

Keep them away from non-maw chests as I fear it would encourage just rolling an easy first fractal / rinse & repeat.

^ that is a good suggestion. Also how about maybe some items you buy with frac relics that you can throw into mystic forge with a skin to get another skin that you actually want and will use. I am 70g away from getting legendary, started collecting when i started doing fotm and only have 1 axe skin that is sitting in my bank to show for it. Makes me wonder how hard ascended weapons are going to be :O

Lol its gonna be one month since ppl started posting here and still no reply. Or even any form okittennowledgment from anet. Whoa I wonder if anyone devs even bother reading threads about fractals in general, anymore.

No response probably increases the likelihood that changes to this are not on the cards atm. However, they probably have read this.

Whoa it takes so much effort to implement a simple new system to get fractal skins right.

I got 18 bleeping skins 1 that I use all the time(gs), 2 underwater(spear & trident), 3 for my condition(staff, specter & torch) which i don even bloody use. BUT ALL I WANT IS SWORD, maybe a pistol and focus would be good but seriously. Been doing 3 dailies a day ever since November and I still cant get it.

Serious BS, the people that come up with loot concept, I swear……nvm

I have an anectode and an opinion to add to this discussion.

Anectode:
I got my first fractal weapon (scepter, hurray!) on my very first lvl 20 run. Boy, was I happy. The second fractal weapon I got from a 30+. I’d say about 4 weeks and therefore about 30 ish runs later. Doing all these runs I’ve seen 5-10 ish weapons drop. I’ve always felt happy for people on my runs getting a Fractal Skin, even more so, when it was a skin they actually wanted.

My opinion:
I do not like the Fractal Weapon Skin acquisition design. For every dungeon you have a few sets of armor, runes and potions available for dungeon tokens. The Dungeon sets don’t drop from mobs or chests but are acquired through a reward system based on how many times you’ve done that specific dungeon.. There’s absolutely no RNG involved in getting the desired stats/whatever for your characters. On the other hand, you only get Fractal Skins for being lucky and you get that chance once a day per tier. That doesn’t factor in getting a skin you don’t want or have already.

I see how they seem not to be considered Dungeon Rewards but more of an “extra bonus” for doing Fractals. In that regard the RNG makes sense.

As the state is now, there’s no way to work towards a Fractal Skin and that leaves me without the feeling of achievement or anything. I would very much like to see a sytem that offers the players a chance to get a desired skin through their own means, rather than RNG. If ArenaNet wants to keep the design as it is, they should replace any skins dropped from the extra chest with a ticket, which players could use to get the skin they want. If ArenaNet wants to make a lot of players happier they should make the skins available in exchance for a token, that people can only get in Fractals. Maybe the Pristine Relics or (another) new token.

I would tend towards the latter suggestion, since so many people haven’t had any luck with RNG so far and have never got a fractal weapon or maybe only one or two after I don’t know how many runs.

tl:dr, design a system that rewards people with less RNG and give them a chance to feel like the accomplished something.

Cheers!

Since my last post, I’ve completed over a dozen lvl 48’s, and several 26+. Not one skin. In fact, 60% I got nothing at all.

It takes a LOT of time and skill to beat a lvl 48, not to mention even getting to that personal reward level. Skins should be the ONLY thing dropping at these levels. If I wanted to add to the now 14+ infused rings rotting in my bank, i’d do lower levels!

Complete waste of my time, and very aggrevating. What’s truly sad, is that’s all I usually do, as I’ve completed the rest of the content months ago.

Oh, and FotM… is purely based on grinding, which was clearly stated as NOT what this game was. Clearly, that was a lie.

Think it’s time to look for another game, until an expansion, or some changes to what we have now makes it worth while doing.

I just wish I could sell them for decent cash. I had a bow drop that I ended up salvaging for some mithril. I’m not interested in these skins.

Kevin.3029:

Oh, and FotM… is purely based on grinding, which was clearly stated as NOT what this game was. Clearly, that was a lie.

I’d like to say that you and I have very different views on what grinding is, or what we’re promised. The “no grinding” means that you dont need to do the same thing over and over again in an extended period to level up/acquire gears so you won’t be outleveled/outgeared by the next man. This doesn’t apply to fotm. You can get your two needed rings and backpiece in more or less one week doing only up to 20. If you want to go higher levels for the challenge/loots (lol)/skins or whatever it is you see in them then you need to work for it, the game doesn’t force you to. Not having 50 personal level or a misty gs won’t restrict your experience in other areas of the game.

Toadslick.1426:

I hit my 500th fractal over a month ago. I have over 50 pristine relics, and almost 30 useless ascended rings. I’ve been running 20+ fractals almost every night for months. I have never, NEVER had a fractal skin drop.

One member of my party, who has run less than half the fractals that I have, has gotten five. This system is ridiculous.

Dude that sucks so bad! I don’t even play FOTM, really, anymore due to being a main ranger. But on my very first level 20 I got a fractal axe skin—and axe is one of my favorite weapons! RNG is truly a nasty beast.

I don’t see why they want it to be RNG. Do they want players to be frustrated by getting 4 fractal tridents they can’t even use? You can still have it hard to acquire by making it cost a large number of pristine fractal relics.

4 months or so still looking for fractal rifle skin… RNG is the best.

Weird the next Fractal I did dropped a Shield skin and a Forgiveness Dye. Scary Coincidence.

NickDollahZ.5348:

4 months or so still looking for fractal rifle skin… RNG is the best.

Weird the next Fractal I did dropped a Shield skin and a Forgiveness Dye. Scary Coincidence.

Who said a little belly aching wouldn’t get you far?

102 daily and finaly got my fractal hammer

I did a bunch of runs over the past few days…… Still no skin drops. I haven’t even seen a ring in two weeks. Lots of relics however.

Alright, its come up on 4 months of doing FotM everyday, and my will to play the game is completely broken. So, I’ve done 2 months of 24 and 30 every day, and then another 2 months of doing 48 every day. This has resulted in around 50-60 rings, and around 20 weapon skins.

Most rings cam from sub 40, though a few frustrating ones still came from post. About 12 of the skins came from post 40, meaning that there IS a better chance to get a skin at the higher level, even with the increased length.

Unfortunately, in this time, the Fractal Sword and Greatsword never dropped, so I walk away from this endeavor empty handed. I may still occasionally run this only for the friends I had made, but other than that, I’m done with Guild Wars 2 in any capacity besides the 10 min daily and possibly the living story.

I’m with others when I say: it would be nice to at least be acknowledged. This thread has been hear the top of this section of the forums for the month it’s been around, and nothing.

Please just throw us a bone.

almost 1 month of doing level 20 to 26 FOTM, no skins have dropped for me. but I got 2 infused rings and 8 regular ascended rings, I hope Anet offer another way to get the skins, perhaps similar to the rings you can purchase with pristine relics.

rchu.8945:

almost 1 month of doing level 20 to 26 FOTM, no skins have dropped for me.

That tier of chest is garbage for Fractal skins. Seriously, get up to the 40’s and then you’ll start seeing some skins (unless you get incredibly lucky).

Rising Dusk.2408:

rchu.8945:

almost 1 month of doing level 20 to 26 FOTM, no skins have dropped for me.

That tier of chest is garbage for Fractal skins. Seriously, get up to the 40’s and then you’ll start seeing some skins (unless you get incredibly lucky).

I’ve gotten all my skins from that “tier” and no skins from 30+ or 40+.

^ How many is “all”?

I have 12 fractal skins, 5 of which are axes. And none of which I use.

I’d even welcome a new mystic forge recipe, 4 fractal weps = random fractal wep.

Achilevel.1807:

I have 12 fractal skins, 5 of which are axes. And none of which I use.

I’d even welcome a new mystic forge recipe, 4 fractal weps = random fractal wep.

That would be a bad recipe. Dropping 4 skins which took some time to get. Just for a random skin? What if you get one of the skins you just dropped into the forge? Now your out 3 skins. We can mull around with ideas but in the end Anet needs to figure this out or at least respond. TBH, at this point I don’t see them making any changes to fractals until the adventure box is done.

thisisu.7504:

^ How many is “all”?

for me:
1 pistol
1 GS
1 torch
1 shield
2 rifles
2 staffs

from lvl 20-28

1 dagger from lvl 38 ._. (the one i wanted most and dropped just few days ago).

I usually see more skin drops on 20-28 than on 30-38.

Burn.5401:

I’ve gotten all my skins from that “tier” and no skins from 30+ or 40+.

LordByron.8369:

I usually see more skin drops on 20-28 than on 30-38.

RNG is RNG. That doesn’t make the chances from 20-28 any less garbage, it just means that you’re particularly lucky. Players should still strive to hit 40-48 and only run those because the chance is significantly better.

Rising Dusk.2408:

Burn.5401:

I’ve gotten all my skins from that “tier” and no skins from 30+ or 40+.

LordByron.8369:

I usually see more skin drops on 20-28 than on 30-38.

RNG is RNG. That doesn’t make the chances from 20-28 any less garbage, it just means that you’re particularly lucky. Players should still strive to hit 40-48 and only run those because the chance is significantly better.

is that what Anet has stated regarding the RNG for fractal weapon skins, as in better chances at the 40 to 48 tier?

rchu.8945:

is that what Anet has stated regarding the RNG for fractal weapon skins, as in better chances at the 40 to 48 tier?

Yeah, it was confirmed forever ago. It’d be painful to try and scour the developer tracker for the exact post(s) since they were months ago, but they will be there if you’re motivated.

Lanser.8520:

Alright, its come up on 4 months of doing FotM everyday, and my will to play the game is completely broken. So, I’ve done 2 months of 24 and 30 every day, and then another 2 months of doing 48 every day. This has resulted in around 50-60 rings, and around 20 weapon skins.

Most rings cam from sub 40, though a few frustrating ones still came from post. About 12 of the skins came from post 40, meaning that there IS a better chance to get a skin at the higher level, even with the increased length.

Unfortunately, in this time, the Fractal Sword and Greatsword never dropped, so I walk away from this endeavor empty handed. I may still occasionally run this only for the friends I had made, but other than that, I’m done with Guild Wars 2 in any capacity besides the 10 min daily and possibly the living story.

Frankly alot of my frens who were mainly pve players(some from real life and the rest from in game) have left this game for this same reason. Of course there are other reasons such as the nerf/dr on fractal loot which Anet refuses to accept and also limiting the the doable fractal lvl to 50.

For myself I have been hunting for a sword for 4 months now but still have not got one.

Personally, I’d like to minimize the amount of RNG required to acquire these Fractal skins. I was never a big fan of RNG-only rewards because I could never be “lucky” enough to earn something nice after putting way more effort than I would like, compared to the first-timer next to me that may get the prize in the first try. That in itself is just plain wrong. It happens to me in almost every MMO I play and it makes me sick. Total Randomness has no prestige attached to it, in my opinion, just a short burst of excitement that doesn’t last as long as it should. I’d like to pull out my nice-looking weapon and say “Do you see this? I did a lot to earn this mofo!”

I’d say that it should be craftable but require materials that could only be obtained from the wide spectrum of Fractal tiers, and probably in abundant amounts and/or available in specific Fractals. The reason I say this is because if I want to run Fractals, I want to see how I progress in the acquisition of resources I would need to build this Fractal weapon; in a similar vein when it comes to crafting my Legendary. At least with a Legendary, I could see some progress made to it if I decide I want to put some effort into making one that day. I can’t really say that with a Fractal weapon currently because it is heavily reliant on luck.

“But you can actually buy a Legendary on the TP!”

So! Look, for some people, the progress of acquiring a Legendary would just simply be the amount of money they can stuff in their wallet. For others like myself, the progress of acquiring a Legendary would be the journey of gathering all the materials needed to actually craft one. The basic point is this: progression.

Fractal weapons, on the other hand, have very little sense of progression (as in you’re at least level 20) because acquisition is solely based on luck.

On the other hand, what I don’t like to see is the capability to purchase a Fractal weapon on the Trading Post. That would just kill the prestige straight up. How would you feel if the dungeon armor you worked so hard far was now available on the Trading Post?

“But how about those that got lucky?”

Well, they got lucky. Big deal. I’d say that after a certain point, if you see someone in with Fractal weapons, that meant they have at least completed levels 40 or higher because they managed to acquire the materials needed, most that only dropped at those higher levels.

Similar example: when I see a new player in full Arah gear, I’d say that they probably know the ins-and-outs of Arah (or at least the popular puggable paths) and could probably have the knowledge to guide a few new people along. However, back when this game was still new, I had a rather cynical view of someone in full Arah gear in that they probably farmed the first two bosses of Arah p3 using terrain glitches. Not anymore since those glitches have been long since fixed.

“Back to the subject, what would you suggest for this crafting recipe?”

With that said, the recipe to create such Fractal weapon should require Level 400 Weaponsmith, Huntsman, or Artificier; and consist of a mix of Vials, Globs, Shards, and maybe a new material, along with conventional materials needed to build that specific weapon such a Shield Boss + Shield Backing to create a Shield. The new material, however, could only be obtained from Level 40+ (and cannot be created using conventional upgraded methods used to convert Vials to Globs, and Globs to Shards); AND could only drop from specific Fractals. These could be called, for example, “Uncategorized Crystal Mist Essence” implying that it dropped specifically from the Uncategorized Fractal.

After acquiring those materials, a Level 400 Crafter could make the Gift of Fractal [Weapon].

Next you would need a Gift of Ascension, which is just a measily 500 Fractal Relics.

Finally, you would need an Eldritch Scroll and some Pristine Fractal Relics. The Final Recipe could look like this:

Example Mystic Forge recipe

• Fractal Shield Skin
  • Gift of The Fractal Shield (requires Level 400 Weaponsmith, recipe purchased for 20 Globs of Coagulated Mist Essence + 30 Vials of Mist Essence)
    • 100 Orichalcum Shield Bosses
    • 10 Shards of Crystallized Mist Essence
    • 20 Jade Crystal Mist Essence (drops in the Jade Fractal at Level 40+)
    • 30 Ascalonian Crystal Mist Essence (drops in the Urban Fractal at Level 40+)
  • 1 Gift of Ascension
  • 30 Pristine Fractal Relics
  • 1 Eldritch Scroll

I’m sure those numbers could be tweaked so that acquisition seems more realistic while maintaining a certain level of prestige. In this case, the only time RNG is involved is during the acquisition of the various Mist Essences. Meanwhile, the new material is introduced to minimize the chances of someone crafting such weapons on the first day they become implemented. Jade is the common material for all weapons, which also throttles progress.

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“Well, someone could just farm the first few mobs for the Fractal-specific Crystal Mist Essence; and then reset the instance to do it again.”

First few mobs? Not necessarily. Vanquishing the entirety of the Fractal? Maybe—Depends on the sanity of the group.

These types of Mist Essences could only drop from specific mobs and/or after the party has passed a certain point in a particular Fractal. Here are some examples of when these Fractal-specific materials could start dropping:

• Aquatic Crystal Mist Essence: Starts dropping upon reaching the group of krait guarding the third cell.
• Cliffside Crystal Mist Essence: Starts dropping upon reaching the Chest Seal.
• Svanir Crystal Mist Essence: Starts dropping upon reaching the Elemental Source.
• Swampland Crystal Mist Essence: Drops only from The Mossman or Bloomhunger, and their summoned creatures.
• Underground Crystal Mist Essence: Starts dropping upon opening the door to either Bomb hallway or Turret hallway.
• Ascalonian Crystal Mist Essence: Starts dropping after defeating Siegemaster Dulfy.
• Volcanic Crystal Mist Essence: Starts dropping after escaping the flaming boulders.
• Uncategorized Crystal Mist Essence: Starts dropping upon reaching the room with the Rabbit, Saboteur, Shaman, and Ettin.
• Jade Crystal Mist Essence: Drops anywhere! Don’t skip— Kill everything!

Materials for the more popular weapons, like Greatswords, would drop from the more harder or longer Fractals, like the Underground Dredge Fractal and Cliffside Fractal. While the materials for less popular weapons would drop in easier Fractals, like Swamp and Aquatic.

“Well, how about those who have all these stored Fractals weapons, which have been obtained by luck, that currently have no use?”

There can be two options, both involving the Mystic Forge. The first is just a Random Fractal Weapon, for those who have “thrills” with gambling. The second recipe produces a specific Fractal Weapon using the materials that drop in Levels 30 and 40. Using the recipe for the specific Fractal Weapon, the unwanted Fractal Weapon replaces the need for the Gift of Ascension.

Different Random Fractal Weapon

• Any Fractal Weapon
• 5 of Any Fractal-specific Crystal Mist Essence
• 5 Shards of Crystallized Mist Essence
• 50 Globs of Ectoplasm

- or -

Specific Fractal Weapon

• Any Fractal Weapon
• a specific Gift of Fractal Weapon
• an Eldritch Scroll
• 30 Pristine Fractal Relics

Overall, I’d just want to see some progress in obtaining one. More reliance on skill and reslience, and less on RNG. Likewise, I don’t expect to get this stuff in one day, just like how it didn’t take me one day to build my legendary weapon. I just want to feel like I rightfully earned it instead of winning the “RNG Lottery”. I personally find almost no prestige in RNG-only rewards. I say almost because the current Fractal weapons show that one of your characters are at least level 20. From that point, it’s just purely luck.

There are 2 things I find peculiar about skins drops.
1. There always seems to be 1 or 2 skins that seems to drop over and over again for a certain char or account. In most cases these skins that drop repeatedly cant be used by that char class. Why is this so?
2. Main hand like sword and 2 hand weapons such as GS, rarely drop. Again I would like to as why?
Even if Anet does not want to do anything about getting skins, at least please make the chance of drop of all skins equal.
A plus would be to do something like once a certain skins drops, make that chance on that skins dropping again lesser then those which hasn’t dropped.

joeytan.3865:

Even if Anet does not want to do anything about getting skins, at least please make the chance of drop of all skins equal.

They are. RNG is RNG.

Initally I was thinking the same thing as well. But there is nothing random about this. I got 4 shortbows, a fren of mine has 5 focus and another dude i know(this one it the best) 6 spears. This problem has plagued my FOTM group and nearly everyone I do high lvl fractals with.

Ok if you still think my sample size is too small scroll back through this thread and see how many ppl have this problem. Once your done, scroll back through the previous threads about fractal skins drops and check there as well. Finally pay attention to the party chat after the daily chest drops.

Anyone can easily see that certain weapons drop much lesser then other.

joeytan.3865:

Initally I was thinking the same thing as well. But there is nothing random about this. I got 4 shortbows, a fren of mine has 5 focus and another dude i know(this one it the best) 6 spears. This problem has plagued my FOTM group and nearly everyone I do high lvl fractals with.

Ok if you still think my sample size is too small scroll back through this thread and see how many ppl have this problem. Once your done, scroll back through the previous threads about fractal skins drops and check there as well. Finally pay attention to the party chat after the daily chest drops.

Anyone can easily see that certain weapons drop much lesser then other.

Sampling bias. Perhaps the ones with problems tend to be vocal, whereas the ones without don’t say anything at all?

Rising Dusk.2408:

Burn.5401:

I’ve gotten all my skins from that “tier” and no skins from 30+ or 40+.

LordByron.8369:

I usually see more skin drops on 20-28 than on 30-38.

RNG is RNG. That doesn’t make the chances from 20-28 any less garbage, it just means that you’re particularly lucky. Players should still strive to hit 40-48 and only run those because the chance is significantly better.

RNG out of 200 fotm X5 players starts to be something more than RNG.

Expecially since i started asking around….and seems CHEST rewards are better the lower lvl you play.

Its possibly a rng issue but even then numbers starts to be enough to say there is (almost) no increment in rewards at higher levels….

So i would not say at 48 chances are “SIGNIFICANTLY” better….(nor that i am lucky because i still run 38+ usually one 38 and one 2X)

They (ANet) already did a full investigation of drop rates from chests and things, and found no particular issues of note with them besides the tagging issue which they address awhile back.

If you have asked 200 unique groups about this (which is an insufficient polling size), and you are sure that you have received unbiased results (which you cannot be sure of), it unfortunately doesn’t mean anything. I get a Fractal skin 1 out of every 4 or so L48 runs. Someone in my group gets a Fractal skin in L48 3 out of every 4 runs I do, and I do a lot. My sample size is no better than yours; maybe my groups are just all always super lucky, and maybe you’re just super unlucky. But that’s the way RNG is, and assuming that something is wrong just because you’re on one end of the spectrum is crazy talk.

Rising Dusk.2408:

They (ANet) already did a full investigation of drop rates from chests and things, and found no particular issues of note with them besides the tagging issue which they address awhile back.
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*cough final rest *cough

Rising Dusk its clear to anyone reading this you’ve been lucky… Probably a couple great swords, daggers, maybe an ax or 2. Clearly you feel rng is rng and you hope it remains that way, only time will tell if they plan to address this or not. Truth be told there probably are bigger fish to fry but a lot of people run fractals and nothing more, they unlike you have had horribly bad rng and want an alternate means to obtain these. Nobody is asking for them to be delivered on a silver platter.

Chauntry.1635:

Rising Dusk its clear to anyone reading this you’ve been lucky… Probably a couple great swords, daggers, maybe an ax or 2. Clearly you feel rng is rng and you hope it remains that way, only time will tell if they plan to address this or not. Truth be told there probably are bigger fish to fry but a lot of people run fractals and nothing more, they unlike you have had horribly bad rng and want an alternate means to obtain these. Nobody is asking for them to be delivered on a silver platter.

Have I? I have gotten only one (dagger) of the three skins I want (dagger, scepter, staff). I’ve gotten more skins than I can count that the class I want to use the skins on can’t even use. Just because I have skins doesn’t mean I am winning the lottery and having my judgment clouded by it; no, on the contrary, I think you other guys aren’t considering the ramifications on the prestige of the items if they become easier to get or easier to get the ones you want. They are supposed to be insanely difficult to get, particularly the skin you want.

I, personally, can’t wait to keep running L48’s and one day get the staff and scepter. Those days will be very sweet when they come. If I could just throw any of my countless pristine relics at the forge and make it, or if I could just get one guaranteed after running it a couple dozen times, it just wouldn’t feel the same. I am pretty confident that ANet is aware of that, and that is exactly why things are the way they are. It’s working as intended.

I don’t understand what it is that makes you feel like you need an alternate way to get these skins at all. Really, it’s good that some skins in the game are RNG bonus rewards. You don’t need them, you don’t have to have them, and heck, they don’t even have stats. You want to get them to look cool and for their prestige, but need to consider that changing how you get them ruins that prestige and makes them less desirable to begin with.

If you are complaining about the method of getting the skins, you don’t deserve the skins. There are people who will climb and wait to get the skins they want. Not sure why Anet needs to change anything to cater to people who just want their skins now when they give no other benefit than looks. This isn’t ascended gear we are talking about here.

Razeor.6271:

joeytan.3865:

Initally I was thinking the same thing as well. But there is nothing random about this. I got 4 shortbows, a fren of mine has 5 focus and another dude i know(this one it the best) 6 spears. This problem has plagued my FOTM group and nearly everyone I do high lvl fractals with.

Ok if you still think my sample size is too small scroll back through this thread and see how many ppl have this problem. Once your done, scroll back through the previous threads about fractal skins drops and check there as well. Finally pay attention to the party chat after the daily chest drops.

Anyone can easily see that certain weapons drop much lesser then other.

Sampling bias. Perhaps the ones with problems tend to be vocal, whereas the ones without don’t say anything at all?

OH really? I do fractals with a large group of ppl, well actually its a guild of players who are 40+, fairly larget one as well and I as I mentioned I also do it with frens both real life and online. We always ping it on party chat if we get a fractal skins. There are so many ppl ranting that they got the same skin a few times over and that some skins almost never drop.

ArcTheFallen.7682:

If you are complaining about the method of getting the skins, you don’t deserve the skins. There are people who will climb and wait to get the skins they want. Not sure why Anet needs to change anything to cater to people who just want their skins now when they give no other benefit than looks. This isn’t ascended gear we are talking about here.

Uhh 4 months of 3 dailies and still can’t get the skins I want. I even finished legendaries is that time man but I still cant get the 2 skins i want. That is why the need a new method of getting fractal skins.

just a thing:

Lets discuss one of the best skin we have in game

ASCALONIAN CATACOMB one..

Why most people find them boring despit ebeing one of the coolest if not the coolest around?

Because its easy to obtain…

Now Fractal skins are way worse than AC.

And considering fotm rewards are bad (expecially with current inflation of cores/lodestones) that would kill fotm at once.

Why does it feel like this issue will never be resolved. It depresses me every time I see this thread. Somethings gotta give.

Excursion.9752:

Why does it feel like this issue will never be resolved. It depresses me every time I see this thread. Somethings gotta give.

Hopefully nothing ever does. People are all gimme, gimme, gimme and don’t stop to consider that more than half of what makes the skins attractive in the first place is the fact that they are so hard to obtain and RNG’d.

If you ask me, more dungeons need RNG rewards that have special skins.

Woohoo! Got my first fractal skin the other day. Was doing my 10th run or so of 20+ and saw my fractal skin! The amount of joy that overwh…. oh, it’s a trident. FML

LordByron.8369:

just a thing:

Lets discuss one of the best skin we have in game

ASCALONIAN CATACOMB one..

Why most people find them boring despit ebeing one of the coolest if not the coolest around?

Because its easy to obtain…

Now Fractal skins are way worse than AC.

And considering fotm rewards are bad (expecially with current inflation of cores/lodestones) that would kill fotm at once.

True. I use AC GS for 6 months, i change it when i complete me surnrise and still have the skin for my MF set. But isn´t the point of the topic. The method to get frac skins is horrible.

I have all AC skins, i just want to change hammer (done), sword and focus.

Rising Dusk.2408:

Excursion.9752:

Why does it feel like this issue will never be resolved. It depresses me every time I see this thread. Somethings gotta give.

Hopefully nothing ever does. People are all gimme, gimme, gimme and don’t stop to consider that more than half of what makes the skins attractive in the first place is the fact that they are so hard to obtain and RNG’d.

If you ask me, more dungeons need RNG rewards that have special skins.

My character’s look is mutually exclusive from the looks of surrounding players, imo.

Ethics.4519:

My character’s look is mutually exclusive from the looks of surrounding players, imo.

That’s true even considering what I said. The fact of the matter is that it looks cooler to you and feels more rewarding to you when you use an item if it was a very difficult path to get it. People would not push so hard or do FotM nearly as much as they do now if FotM skins could be grinded with pristine relics or the such.

Rising Dusk.2408:

Ethics.4519:

My character’s look is mutually exclusive from the looks of surrounding players, imo.

That’s true even considering what I said. The fact of the matter is that it looks cooler to you and feels more rewarding to you when you use an item if it was a very difficult path to get it. People would not push so hard or do FotM nearly as much as they do now if FotM skins could be grinded with pristine relics or the such.

The thing that makes the skin attractive to me is the look. If my mesmer would have started with anomaly and whisperblade, I’d still be using it to this day. I do understand the concept of having a goal and making something a long-time investment, but I can’t get behind the RNG aspect. Maybe RNG of getting a skin, but not RNG of the type of skin.