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Posted by: Trice.4598

Trice.4598

I know it’s not related to dungeons, but I think it was kind of low from ArenaNet to let the Dev blame themselves for the inactivity on the forum (saw a couple post saying it was them not having time to be active). It’s clear it was a management decision and not the Dev being too busy, and I don’t blame the devs, their hands are tied by the upper management which is made out of business man and investors rather than game developer.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

Why is the lfg torturing me with the worst pugs eu?

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Posted by: J Eberle.9312

J Eberle.9312

No worries m8 I just jumped in a pug melee only lupi with a GS mesmer, I left that one and the next pug I join is a mace/focus and hammer guardian with benevolence sigil and 12kap.

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Posted by: Trice.4598

Trice.4598

No worries m8 I just jumped in a pug melee only lupi with a GS mesmer, I left that one and the next pug I join is a mace/focus and hammer guardian with benevolence sigil and 12kap.

Mace op bruh, block and kittens.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

No worries m8 I just jumped in a pug melee only lupi with a GS mesmer, I left that one and the next pug I join is a mace/focus and hammer guardian with benevolence sigil and 12kap.

At least you know your kitten.

I’m sitting in 40 fracs right now with two staff-heal guards and a longbow and they managed to die at kittening Lornarr. One of them was able to tank the whole breath-attack while not even losing 1/3 of his hp.

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Posted by: JasmineLong.6514

JasmineLong.6514

No worries m8 I just jumped in a pug melee only lupi with a GS mesmer, I left that one and the next pug I join is a mace/focus and hammer guardian with benevolence sigil and 12kap.

At least you know your kitten.

I’m sitting in 40 fracs right now with two staff-heal guards and a longbow and they managed to die at kittening Lornarr. One of them was able to tank the whole breath-attack while not even losing 1/3 of his hp.

Nomad OP…don’t hate on the new meta.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

No worries m8 I just jumped in a pug melee only lupi with a GS mesmer, I left that one and the next pug I join is a mace/focus and hammer guardian with benevolence sigil and 12kap.

At least you know your kitten.

I’m sitting in 40 fracs right now with two staff-heal guards and a longbow and they managed to die at kittening Lornarr. One of them was able to tank the whole breath-attack while not even losing 1/3 of his hp.

Nomad OP…don’t hate on the new meta.

How can you even die with Nomads?

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Posted by: Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

No worries m8 I just jumped in a pug melee only lupi with a GS mesmer, I left that one and the next pug I join is a mace/focus and hammer guardian with benevolence sigil and 12kap.

At least you know your kitten.

I’m sitting in 40 fracs right now with two staff-heal guards and a longbow and they managed to die at kittening Lornarr. One of them was able to tank the whole breath-attack while not even losing 1/3 of his hp.

I loled.

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Posted by: Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

So I was thinking. Why is the dungeon subforum still under the ‘game discussion’ category? Shouldn’t it be archived?

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Posted by: JasmineLong.6514

JasmineLong.6514

So I was thinking. Why is the dungeon subforum still under the ‘game discussion’ category? Shouldn’t it be archived?

Lol…it might as well be since they aren’t going to do anything new. This is the place where the “vocal and toxic minority” come to gang out, since apparently all we do is qq and never help anyone out xD

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

Hey since i’m being punished I cant even open a freaking thread about TA suggestions. Can s/o do so instead?

This is the OP, just copy paste (dont quote for formating)




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* Let us skip the dialogues betwen Caith and the Lionguard before and/or after selecting the path. They last for over 1 minute.
* After the Oose room is completed, let us enter the next room without waiting for  Caith’s dialogue.
* Let us skip the Slick and Sparky cutscene.
* Let us skip the Clockheart’s death cutscene.

* The Holograms need to have a timed explosion instead of exploding on death. As of now, killing holograms means down state if you are within their range. This is not fun. Let them stop for X seconds before exploding. to allow counterplay (dodge).


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Edit: 600 sec flood control. Let’s just say it’s easier to shut people up than to create/fix content. Eh?

Edit2: So nobody? Lilith :’(

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Posted by: JasmineLong.6514

JasmineLong.6514

How did you get punished?

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Posted by: Dalanor.5387

Dalanor.5387

Dungeon Instance Owner

We’ve changed the way dungeon instances work. Currently, the instance is “owned” by the first person to enter the instance; this creates some issues when that person leaves or is kicked from the party. To prevent the dungeon instance from closing when any one person leaves, we’ve removed the concept of a dungeon “owner.” If everyone leaves an instance, it will close, but you don’t have to worry about one person leaving your party and having to restart your dungeon! Our goal here is to make instances more user-friendly, as the hidden owner concept was often hard to understand and resulted in people losing progress randomly when someone left.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/september-2014-feature-pack-improvements-galore/

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Posted by: Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

Dungeon Instance Owner

We’ve changed the way dungeon instances work. Currently, the instance is “owned” by the first person to enter the instance; this creates some issues when that person leaves or is kicked from the party. To prevent the dungeon instance from closing when any one person leaves, we’ve removed the concept of a dungeon “owner.” If everyone leaves an instance, it will close, but you don’t have to worry about one person leaving your party and having to restart your dungeon! Our goal here is to make instances more user-friendly, as the hidden owner concept was often hard to understand and resulted in people losing progress randomly when someone left.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/september-2014-feature-pack-improvements-galore/

That’s nice. Of course now the instance owner can’t flame the rest of the party without repercussions.

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

Still nobody posted my thread request. Guys?

Edit: We love you too Dlonie :>

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

Of course, hours after I say “goodbye”, they fix something I’ve been pushing for for ages.

Oh well. This is literally too little, too late Why didn’t they communicate this sooner on one of the weekly instance ownership threads??! Sigh…

inb4 they announce a new dungeon tomorrow >.<

That would be some delicious egg on my face.

Man, I suck at this whole “leaving” thing.

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Posted by: Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

Still nobody posted my thread request. Guys?

I’m on my phone which makes it hard. I will later this evening if no one steps up and assuming I remember.

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Posted by: J Eberle.9312

J Eberle.9312

inb4 they announce a new dungeon tomorrow >.<

Don’t worry, it won’t happen. :)

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

Sorry Miku, been dealing with clients all day. Got it up on my lunch break !

[ARES]
And all who stood by and did nothing, who are they to criticize the sacrifices of others?
Our blood has bought their lives.

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Posted by: IvanTheGrey.2941

IvanTheGrey.2941

There has been a great disturbance in the farce, like a million QQs all crying out at once. No pug is safe. No leetist scum is safe.

ALL IS VAIN.

While I’m in agreement that there should be something done about the kicking thing, having an instance that I solo’d or carried a party through be stolen from me @ the last boss for people to invite guildees/sell? There’s another storm coming. How is it done in WoW/other MMOs that do it right? I literally see nothing but bad coming from this tbh.

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Posted by: JasmineLong.6514

JasmineLong.6514

There has been a great disturbance in the farce, like a million QQs all crying out at once. No pug is safe. No leetist scum is safe.

ALL IS VAIN.

While I’m in agreement that there should be something done about the kicking thing, having an instance that I solo’d or carried a party through be stolen from me @ the last boss for people to invite guildees/sell? There’s another storm coming. How is it done in WoW/other MMOs that do it right? I literally see nothing but bad coming from this tbh.

Get more people on your friends list so you can whisper them to be fillers :P

I’ll start charging for my services

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Posted by: RemiRome.8495

RemiRome.8495

be stolen from me @ the last boss for people to invite guildees/sell? There’s another storm coming.

All is vain.

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

On top of not having instances locked, other MMOs had leader status for parties. The leader could invite, kick, make someone else the leader, leadership was transfered if the leader left/dc’d for 10 minutes. In return he couldn’t be kicked.

GW2 doesn’t have this system and thus is failing hard.

Ps: THANKS LILITH LOVE YOU

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Posted by: J Eberle.9312

J Eberle.9312

This is the next mega servers.

You’re welcome.

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Posted by: NACotser.4125

NACotser.4125

Dungeon Instance Owner

We’ve changed the way dungeon instances work. Currently, the instance is “owned” by the first person to enter the instance; this creates some issues when that person leaves or is kicked from the party. To prevent the dungeon instance from closing when any one person leaves, we’ve removed the concept of a dungeon “owner.” If everyone leaves an instance, it will close, but you don’t have to worry about one person leaving your party and having to restart your dungeon! Our goal here is to make instances more user-friendly, as the hidden owner concept was often hard to understand and resulted in people losing progress randomly when someone left.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/september-2014-feature-pack-improvements-galore/

Ever the pessimist, I’d like to point out that this makes griefing way easier because now you can’t open the dungeon yourself to protect yourself from being kicked. Then again it means people can kick griefers who opened the instance too… Opinions?

2Hairy = 2Scary
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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

There has been a great disturbance in the farce, like a million QQs all crying out at once. No pug is safe. No leetist scum is safe.

ALL IS VAIN.

While I’m in agreement that there should be something done about the kicking thing, having an instance that I solo’d or carried a party through be stolen from me @ the last boss for people to invite guildees/sell? There’s another storm coming. How is it done in WoW/other MMOs that do it right? I literally see nothing but bad coming from this tbh.

In EQ there was an Instance Owner, who was truly the Leader. He had commands that could kick people, invite people or close the whole instance. However if he left, the leader would be defaulted to the next person who joined the group (or in the case of people all being in a group at the start it was basically random). So the leader could leave freely as the instance wasn’t tied to them, it was just theirs to control. Honestly I thought this was the best system of any game I’ve played. If you didn’t like the leader you were free to leave, but it prevented greifing as the leader typically isn’t going to get people together to have them do a mission just to grief them at the end.

DCUO was somewhere in between. We had group leaders who were in full control of the party/raid. But, the instances you could invite people much like GW2 but you’d get a pop up that would have to accept them into the group. Kicking took majority vote, not just being seconded and even the group leader could be kicked. So in groups (4) you’d need 2 people to kick, and in raids (8) you’d need 4 people to kick. However, there was no LFG system like GW2, so when you formed a group it was because you invited them to a party, not because they saw the list and joined in. That IMO is the biggest issue.

Overall I think GW2 LFG would improve greatly if you had to accept someone from LFG instead of having them automatically placed in the group. This way we could somewhat screen who gets placed into an LFG. We could just hit accept right away, or we could make sure they adhere to the stipulations we put in the LFG note before they can get into the party and manipulate it (kicking people to steal an instance).

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Minigrump.4961

Worst part about browsing the forums on mobile

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

Worst part about browsing the forums on mobile

I never had that happen. But then again, I use a windows phone.

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Posted by: Advent Leader.1083

Advent Leader.1083

Now that was what I call a delicious takedown. Props to dev.

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spoj.9672

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Taku.6352

I like this new trend of 2 way communication between the reds and us peasants.

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Posted by: J Eberle.9312

J Eberle.9312

The reds lol. I like it.

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Posted by: Trice.4598

Trice.4598

THE LEGEND WAS TRUE, red post in the dungeon sub forum really do in fact exist. I can not rest in peace.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

I like this new trend of 2 way communication between the reds and us peasants.

If this trend doesn’t go away and pushes the game forward I’m all for it.

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J Eberle.9312

We need to start operation convert devs to scumbag dungeon meta builds quickly.

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Trice.4598

We need to start operation convert devs to scumbag dungeon meta builds quickly.

1 year later

LFG “Selling Arah p2 5 gold, pay Shazbawt”

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

I’m mainly happy that we are able to weed out false information now. Like the fake ban. Before we weren’t able to tell what was true or false, and now that we have a couple devs monitoring… we at least have Anet’s side of the story (if we assume it’s true and they aren’t lying, which could be too trusting of me but whatever)

[ARES]
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Our blood has bought their lives.

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Posted by: JasmineLong.6514

JasmineLong.6514

We need to start operation convert devs to scumbag dungeon meta builds quickly.

You imagine if they got a meta team together for the tourney? That would be pretty epic.

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Posted by: JasmineLong.6514

JasmineLong.6514

We need to start operation convert devs to scumbag dungeon meta builds quickly.

1 year later

LFG “Selling Arah p2 5 gold, pay Shazbawt”

Shazbawt LFG: “Arah P4|Experienced|No Rangers or Necros|Zerker only”

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Posted by: Trice.4598

Trice.4598

I’m mainly happy that we are able to weed out false information now. Like the fake ban. Before we weren’t able to tell what was true or false, and now that we have a couple devs monitoring… we at least have Anet’s side of the story (if we assume it’s true and they aren’t lying, which could be too trusting of me but whatever)

I played a game 3 years ago, every time someone would complain on the forum saying they were “auto banned wrongfully” the GM who handle the bans would post a 15 seconds video of the guy “hacking” and bust his jimmies. It was kind of fun and upsetting to see how many people lies. He would post 3-4 videos a day.

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

That’s epic. I love it when I see it. Gaille does it too (explains the reasons x person was banned" and it’s usually in the best possible way. <3 Devs. Haha

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Our blood has bought their lives.

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Posted by: JasmineLong.6514

JasmineLong.6514

I’m mainly happy that we are able to weed out false information now. Like the fake ban. Before we weren’t able to tell what was true or false, and now that we have a couple devs monitoring… we at least have Anet’s side of the story (if we assume it’s true and they aren’t lying, which could be too trusting of me but whatever)

I agree, having some sort of presence like this is good for weeding out fake information. I am still partially upset that it had to be because we caused a kittenstorm and not on their own free will but hopefully all this information is true on their end.

Some of the CC posts they are doing however is not something I’m happy about and I, others as well I’m sure, will be super kittened even more than we are now if there is no delivery on any of this, just like how it has been in the past :/

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Posted by: rojak.1894

rojak.1894

Isnt Shazbawt a ranger?

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Posted by: Trice.4598

Trice.4598

Isnt Shazbawt a ranger?

Don’t you dare killing our dream.

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Posted by: JasmineLong.6514

JasmineLong.6514

Isnt Shazbawt a ranger?

Maybe. Shazbawt 2.0 will be a Warrior

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Posted by: J Eberle.9312

J Eberle.9312

double axe ranger last I saw at wurm event a couple months back.

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Posted by: oxtred.7658

oxtred.7658

“Zerker, ping gear or ban for 3 days” would be sweet.

If you’re on EU and need help to get into dungeons, pm me.

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Posted by: JasmineLong.6514

JasmineLong.6514

“Zerker, ping gear or ban for 3 days” would be sweet.

Rofl…that would be awesome

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Posted by: Dalanor.5387

Dalanor.5387

“Zerker, ping gear or ban for 3 days” would be sweet.

I would watch a 3 hour long compliaton video of this … Oh the sweet tears.

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Posted by: J Eberle.9312

J Eberle.9312

I’m estimating more than half the population is illiterate and so would be banned by the end of it.