Guild Wars 2

Kontrolle.3514:

Lol, you guys never have seen a decent mesmer.
Mesmer > all in everything espacially support in PvE, i outperform every guardian by a lot.

Mesmer is the only must have class in this game for everything.

Now you made me curious.

I’d really want it to be true.
I’ve been playing guardian since the start, and I’ve never seen anyone getting even close to my tanking, healing & support abilities – all in one (then again, I played maybe with 150-200 different people so far, don’t like pugs too much), be it pug or experienced guildie. So if you claim you can outperform every guardian by a lot, which should include me, I would actually start leveling my mesmer.

But before I get excited, could you give me some examples on how exactly you do that? As far as I know, the boons you can give to allies are random. You can’t time aegis or stability right before knock down to prevent it, cast protection and regen at the most fierce battle and I don’t think you can tank anything, neither healing other allies by A LOT. Or am I completely wrong?

I would really want to be proven wrong, as I like mesmers and I think they aren’t played with their full potential by vast majority of players, who just want to pew pew.

Yes you are complete wrong.

i will edit this post to prove my statement just wait a bit.

do not agree
Mesmer is really useful (stealth, quickness, portals, more targets etc etc etc), but having a guardian is better

Ok now here is the build, it isnt even optimized for PvE, its my regular WvW build:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAW8dl0ziqHTzqGaNJiJFBHydmBztcoFUSBvdhA;TYAqmMNJay2krJZTA

now here is the key, why its alot better then any guardian. Two words =
Chaos Armor. You have 100% uptime of chaosarmor, coupled with a alot of toughness.
4 etheric fields which are the strongest fields available. Confusion stacks extrem well with projectile/whirl users Just tell your buddies they have to use thier leaps and blast inside the field for chaos armor madness.
Chaosstorm is way better to provide aegis then anything a guardian can offer.

You can tank extrem well with permaprotection ~10-20 secs in a fight, high toughness
and distortion every 8 seconds. You have a ridicoulus amount of projectile reflection which is totally oped in WvW and most PvE situations. You can even reflect a couple of agony attacks.

so in a short list:

strong condition/boon removement – nullfield
Strongest combofields 100% uptime – etheric
extreme amount of reflection – focus/reflection bubble
permanent chaosarmor for blind, confusion, protection.
The best aegis abillity – chaos storm.
highest amount of invul – blurred frenzy / distortion.
Cheesy tactics with portals
10 sec quickness…. extrem nice for turbo rezz dead guys.

The only thing what a guard can do better then everyone else is to provide stabillity.

Your build is interesting, so I’d like to see it in action.

For some reason I wouldn’t trust chaos armor that much, but maybe I’m wrong.
I mean, some situations require to give all allies aegis on call, without rellying on luck.

Also, protection is only a damage reduction. Guardians can keep up a lot of protection AND regen at same time, which is much more effective, in my humble opinion.
Guardians can reflect and absorb projectiles with many skills as well.
Guardians have some aoe blind options as well, not so much, but fair enough.
Guardians can provide 3 aegises on demand for all party members within range.

Additionaly, if we are traited and equipped, we can heal all our allies all the time with many our skills. And this healing ability, for me, is one of the most important aspect of being guardian. Sacrificing my own damage, I’m usually able to keep alive 3 berserker warriors with my outgoing healing options, so they don’t use their own heal skills at all. Maintaining protection, regen and blind at right moments, healing and empowering them – it usually outweights any other kind of support. Not to mention our conditions removing options, with shouts and light fields.

Still, I really want to see your mesmer in action

Razzy.2741:

Your build is interesting, so I’d like to see it in action.

For some reason I wouldn’t trust chaos armor that much, but maybe I’m wrong.
I mean, some situations require to give all allies aegis on call, without rellying on luck.

Also, protection is only a damage reduction. Guardians can keep up a lot of protection AND regen at same time, which is much more effective, in my humble opinion.
Guardians can reflect and absorb projectiles with many skills as well.
Guardians have some aoe blind options as well, not so much, but fair enough.
Guardians can provide 3 aegises on demand for all party members within range.

Additionaly, if we are traited and equipped, we can heal all our allies all the time with many our skills. And this healing ability, for me, is one of the most important aspect of being guardian. Sacrificing my own damage, I’m usually able to keep alive 3 berserker warriors with my outgoing healing options, so they don’t use their own heal skills at all. Maintaining protection, regen and blind at right moments, healing and empowering them – it usually outweights any other kind of support. Not to mention our conditions removing options, with shouts and light fields.

Still, I really want to see your mesmer in action

Chaos Storm provides aegis every second, in addition it dazes enemys quite often.
Its way more reliable then aegis from guardians and doesnt rely on luck at all. you buff a good amount of regeneration and protection through chaos armor, if your party utalize your fields well. Your phantasms buff regen too.

You may adjust this build for heals on shatter for example, which would give you a good amount of heal too but the groups in which i play don relay on heals at all and we usally dont group beserk warriors because most of them are just terribad and a wasted slot.
If we need heals at all what we barely do we have a ranger with waterfield and people use thier finishers in that. Im not that mus of a pve expert but this build walks through fractals carrying a full team with ease.

Anyway a team with such a mesmer + a decent guardian is of course even better then just one of them.

It is random, the buff provided by chaos storm can be aegis but not always. I play a mesmer and sometimes I won’t get aegis even if I’m standing in chaos storm for the full duration. I often use it to try to get swiftness and lots of time I don’t get a proc of it. It’s a random boon between aegis swiftness and retaliation and without luck, you can very well not get it at all, let alone all your party. You have to stand in it too btw, with shout/virtue, a guardian can pretty much get closer to the people he wants to benefit from aegis and then move away.
You also seem to forget that chaos armor you gain from combo field is the beta version of it. You need to be touched to receive a random boon between protection regen and swiftness, you won’t necessarily receive protection unlike the #4 from staff. Here again it’s random and you have to be touched taking non protection-mitigated damage to trigger it. Guardian can provide protection to his allies before they take any damages at all.

I’m not saying your build is inefficient. I’m just saying you’re a bit too much optimistic with chaos armor and chaos storm.
Also you need blast finisher to provide it to your party and you don’t have any with this setup so you rely on your team mate to proc all these chaos armor with leap or blast. Now if you used signet of inspiration, you could share all your boons with your allies provided they are close enough though.