Guild Wars 2

I never see pugs anymore, and heard the few pugs all want titles and stuff. I tried pugging the first few weeks raids it came out but back then no one had even beat the 1st boss yet, and when one guild finally did most pugs still couldn’t obviously. Then had to take a break b/c of school and work.

Lately I focused on pvp, got my legendary backpiece, and getting more mastery points. Would love to get into raiding, I raided on wow hard mode for many years and enjoy gw1 and gw2 way more than wow. I also did uwsc, fowsc, and doasc groups 24/7 on gw1 so I enjoy elite content.

I currently have full ascended/legendary gear on my rev and am working on ascended gear on my thief and necro. Watched several guides to get caught up.

But I heard no one raids anymore and those that do aren’t looking for new players. So basically if you’re wanting to get into raids its impossible? This is a pretty screwed up system. Even back in the day when high lv fractals were harder there were beginner, average, and pro groups, and even dungeons way back in the day before nerfs and buying runs there were still options for new players to learn and enjoy the content.

Again I love hard content, not complaining about that, just complaining about either the system or the community. Never see any guilds recruiting for raids in map chat or people teaching either. I used to help teach dungeons all the time b/c I found it fun and rewarding to help others. Hopefully I’m wrong and some guilds are still recruiting and some people still help others.

I do have a suggestion for the “pro guilds.” How about having more than 1 raid team. A core team and a B team or more. Than have once or 2x a week training nights, maybe have a few of the core team help out the B team on training nights. We did this all the time in wow and it was very successful and helped everyone be happy and enjoy the content more. Also raised the raid experience of the guild as a whole, so when members left the guild, quit playing, had to cut back on playing, got sick etc, it was much easier to find an alternate to fill in because you already had a whole group of friends who know the content.

many guilds took a break of recruiting because of the new raid wing, but they will start recruiting again soon, there are many raid teaching guilds.

Btw i believe most raiding guilds have more than one raiding group and were recruiting and should start recruiting again soon.

harold.3526:

many guilds took a break of recruiting because of the new raid wing, but they will start recruiting again soon, there are many raid teaching guilds.

Btw i believe most raiding guilds have more than one raiding group and were recruiting and should start recruiting again soon.

Where do they recruit at? Never see any in VB. Every now and then I see a recruitment for pvx in divinities reach or lions arch that goes something like this “PvX guild recruiting! We do pve, dungeons, fractals, pvp, wvw, raids, farming, etc etc.”

But when you ask about raids they go sorry we’re full. We’re just recruiting casuals to boost our #‘s and contribution. Not to mention most guilds don’t even play with each other anymore except for maybe wvw.

I always log-in by the time of the daily reset, and look for the LFM tab, i see pugs almost everyday by this time, got my first kill on VG and Gors on pug wednesday around 9 PM, so you can pug pretty easy.

It’s never too late to raid, but I’d definitely recommend going with a guild since the pug experience can be pretty hit or miss. Check out the Looking For section of the forums if you haven’t yet.

I’ll admit to being biased, but I love the guild I’m in and we are still recruiting for our entry level raid team. This group has a mix of new and experienced players so that we can help teach/guide new players to fights they haven’t encountered or haven’t played much. If you’re interested, check out the direct recruitment below, but even if not, check out that section of the forums for sure. I think the posts there are generally your best bet for finding active guild recruitment with enough info to get a feel for what type of environment they are.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/lookingfor/NA-NPC-Raid-Guild-Ready-to-Teach

P.s. Considering your account name, I would have thought your main would have been a mesmer, lol.

OnizukaBR.8537:

I always log-in by the time of the daily reset, and look for the LFM tab, i see pugs almost everyday by this time, got my first kill on VG and Gors on pug wednesday around 9 PM, so you can pug pretty easy.

That’s the first wing, people ask you to have tonic and over 50 LI for wing 2 and 3 even though it’s useless stuff, I’ve never been able to complete wing 2 because of that and just gave up on raids, the system is terrible, the rewards are terrible and the community is terrible, end of the line…

And don’t tell me to find a raid guild, I tried since wing 2 came out (I completed wing 1 way before back in January), couldn’t do it and it was too late.

Amineo.8951:

OnizukaBR.8537:

I always log-in by the time of the daily reset, and look for the LFM tab, i see pugs almost everyday by this time, got my first kill on VG and Gors on pug wednesday around 9 PM, so you can pug pretty easy.

That’s the first wing, people ask you to have tonic and over 50 LI for wing 2 and 3 even though it’s useless stuff, I’ve never been able to complete wing 2 because of that and just gave up on raids, the system is terrible, the rewards are terrible and the community is terrible, end of the line…

And don’t tell me to find a raid guild, I tried since wing 2 came out (I completed wing 1 way before back in January), couldn’t do it and it was too late.

To me its not true, the same way i join VG i join Sloth too, there isnt dif in req on the pubs i join.

This seems to be an odd complaint with the release of wing 3, because no one has any experience.

Happened this tuesday:

I have a guildy that just came back to the game, he got HoT, spend 1-2 hours doing abit of the story + a few events to get basic gliding. We did not have a guild raid that day and I did not have time to join him (rl), so he checked lfg. 10-15 min later he whispered me he was in a pug group, lfg text being: lets have a look at first boss in wing 3, later that evening he whispered me over skype with “I just got my first raid kill GG”..

It is never to late to get into raids, join a teaching/learning lfg group or join a guild that do raids, thats it. You will need to spend abit of time, and you will die a few times. But if you want to raid, you will get the kills and learn the bosses.

Sigfodr.9576:

Happened this tuesday:

I have a guildy that just came back to the game, he got HoT, spend 1-2 hours doing abit of the story + a few events to get basic gliding. We did not have a guild raid that day and I did not have time to join him (rl), so he checked lfg. 10-15 min later he whispered me he was in a pug group, lfg text being: lets have a look at first boss in wing 3, later that evening he whispered me over skype with “I just got my first raid kill GG”..

It is never to late to get into raids, join a teaching/learning lfg group or join a guild that do raids, thats it. You will need to spend abit of time, and you will die a few times. But if you want to raid, you will get the kills and learn the bosses.

That’s a special case, the 1st boss of the new wing is the easiest of the Forsaken Thicket, wait a bit (like a week or two) and you’ll see that he will struggle finding groups.

So last night I seriously saw like 4-5 practice groups. Most were for SV but there’s still a lot of those on the LFG

Absurdo.8309:

This seems to be an odd complaint with the release of wing 3, because no one has any experience.

People already require experience for wing3.

Nope never too late I started raiding 3 weeks ago we got our 1st VG kill last week and killed him again this week, we are now starting on gorse.
Our guild is fairly small we have about 5-6 people who can actually raid, so we fill the last few spots with friends, and friends of friends, once you start asking people to help you out it is amazing how many in the gw community will go out of their way to help.
If you can scratch a few together its really worth,

Amineo.8951:

Sigfodr.9576:

Happened this tuesday:

I have a guildy that just came back to the game, he got HoT, spend 1-2 hours doing abit of the story + a few events to get basic gliding. We did not have a guild raid that day and I did not have time to join him (rl), so he checked lfg. 10-15 min later he whispered me he was in a pug group, lfg text being: lets have a look at first boss in wing 3, later that evening he whispered me over skype with “I just got my first raid kill GG”..

It is never to late to get into raids, join a teaching/learning lfg group or join a guild that do raids, thats it. You will need to spend abit of time, and you will die a few times. But if you want to raid, you will get the kills and learn the bosses.

That’s a special case, the 1st boss of the new wing is the easiest of the Forsaken Thicket, wait a bit (like a week or two) and you’ll see that he will struggle finding groups.

Is it, really. Are you sure?

Since then he joined us (and killed): VG+gors+Xera. And joined a pug group and killed KC. Again, it did not take him more then 20-30 min. to find a pug group. And thats with barely any LI and no tonic etc.

But he do actually open lfg up and look in it once in a while..

Amineo.8951:

That’s a special case, the 1st boss of the new wing is the easiest of the Forsaken Thicket, wait a bit (like a week or two) and you’ll see that he will struggle finding groups.

Do you remember the Slothasor run from Friday (or maybe Saturday, dunno exactly). You joined a pug stated as “experienced” but no other requirements (like LIs, eternal or tonic buff) and when I read all member names, I recognized your account name. I immediately googled it and I knew my memory was right about this forum and your posts here.
The commander and organisator of that run asked everybody of the group about experience and about unclear things. He did an excellent preparation via TS, you were there as well but muted, maybe or hopefully only listening.
Although it was an experienced run he was repeating every mechanic and made clear that you can fail once but not more because the mechanics shouldn’t be a serious issue for exp players.
You failed hard three times (2x laying poison under team although it was called out loud in TS + 1x not pulling Sloth as tank to the next spot).
The commander then asked you via TS, you didn’t react, so your kick was absolutely inevitable because that hasn’t been a training run + you haven’t shown any reaction at all.

Situations like this are the reason why people put up requirements. All you had to do was reacting to the mechanics and play the encounter like the group had wished for.
People who are not able to should form training runs and get used to mechanics. After practicing a bit you shouldn’t have a problem to have success in a group like from the weekend.

Vinceman.4572:

Amineo.8951:

That’s a special case, the 1st boss of the new wing is the easiest of the Forsaken Thicket, wait a bit (like a week or two) and you’ll see that he will struggle finding groups.

Do you remember the Slothasor run from Friday (or maybe Saturday, dunno exactly). You joined a pug stated as “experienced” but no other requirements (like LIs, eternal or tonic buff) and when I read all member names, I recognized your account name. I immediately googled it and I knew my memory was right about this forum and your posts here.
The commander and organisator of that run asked everybody of the group about experience and about unclear things. He did an excellent preparation via TS, you were there as well but muted, maybe or hopefully only listening.
Although it was an experienced run he was repeating every mechanic and made clear that you can fail once but not more because the mechanics shouldn’t be a serious issue for exp players.
You failed hard three times (2x laying poison under team although it was called out loud in TS + 1x not pulling Sloth as tank to the next spot).
The commander then asked you via TS, you didn’t react, so your kick was absolutely inevitable because that hasn’t been a training run + you haven’t shown any reaction at all.

Situations like this are the reason why people put up requirements. All you had to do was reacting to the mechanics and play the encounter like the group had wished for.
People who are not able to should form training runs and get used to mechanics. After practicing a bit you shouldn’t have a problem to have success in a group like from the weekend.

I joined another group the week-end and got the kill, and I don’t remember these mistakes, the only ones I did were not dodging the shakes at the right time and the reflects not timed well.

Anyway, I’m done with this game the next couple of weeks, it will eventually die one day with all the stuff coming up not only this year but the next ones aswell.

Amineo.8951:

Vinceman.4572:

Amineo.8951:

That’s a special case, the 1st boss of the new wing is the easiest of the Forsaken Thicket, wait a bit (like a week or two) and you’ll see that he will struggle finding groups.

Do you remember the Slothasor run from Friday (or maybe Saturday, dunno exactly). You joined a pug stated as “experienced” but no other requirements (like LIs, eternal or tonic buff) and when I read all member names, I recognized your account name. I immediately googled it and I knew my memory was right about this forum and your posts here.
The commander and organisator of that run asked everybody of the group about experience and about unclear things. He did an excellent preparation via TS, you were there as well but muted, maybe or hopefully only listening.
Although it was an experienced run he was repeating every mechanic and made clear that you can fail once but not more because the mechanics shouldn’t be a serious issue for exp players.
You failed hard three times (2x laying poison under team although it was called out loud in TS + 1x not pulling Sloth as tank to the next spot).
The commander then asked you via TS, you didn’t react, so your kick was absolutely inevitable because that hasn’t been a training run + you haven’t shown any reaction at all.

Situations like this are the reason why people put up requirements. All you had to do was reacting to the mechanics and play the encounter like the group had wished for.
People who are not able to should form training runs and get used to mechanics. After practicing a bit you shouldn’t have a problem to have success in a group like from the weekend.

I joined another group the week-end and got the kill, and I don’t remember these mistakes, the only ones I did were not dodging the shakes at the right time and the reflects not timed well.

Anyway, I’m done with this game the next couple of weeks, it will eventually die one day with all the stuff coming up not only this year but the next ones aswell.

Okay, cya

Yes, it’s too late. Don’t bother.

Its never too late. There are quite a few Training Groups in LFG ( mostly at the End of the Week ) and there are also many Raiding Guilds who invest Time and Effort into training People for Raids.

@ Vinceman: I don’t think it was nice to Point out a Players Mistakes in the Forum here.
But TBH if I would make a Run with EXP Only and then also Tell the Mechanics and if someone screws up on Fixates or Poison multiple Time I’am seriously doubting that this Player is EXP and if he would not answer to me then.,I would assume that this Player just wants to get carried which results in a Kick.

Every single group should be a “training” group. It takes less than 20 minutes to learn every single mechanic on a boss you have 0 idea about(no video watching, no reading up on it, etc).

This community needs to be less demanding, raids are not difficult in this.

I thought it was too late 7 weeks ago when I started raiding, by which time, Wing 2 had been out for a couple of months, and Wing 1 for about 5 months, but no, it wasn’t too late. I’ve been raiding consistently since then and can clear Wing 1 and 2 easily, along with potentially Wing 3 with a good group.

Put in the effort to join a raiding guild, and learn mechanics quickly, and you’ll be golden. Gear up at least two characters (Revenant, PS War, Tempest are among the classes that are most desired aside from Druid and Chrono) in Exotic armor and Ascended weapons/trinkets.

Sigfodr.9576:

Is it, really. Are you sure?

Since then he joined us (and killed): VG+gors+Xera. And joined a pug group and killed KC. Again, it did not take him more then 20-30 min. to find a pug group. And thats with barely any LI and no tonic etc.

But he do actually open lfg up and look in it once in a while..

I had a somewhat related experience:
I actively tried to join PUGs, but sadly, never got into any groups. So, I joined a friend’s guild, one that did consistent clears of both wings (although not as consistent on Matthias). Considering I had barely any experience, I told my friend that all I wanted was exposure to the mechanics, and I will figure it out quickly, and did not expect to be carried. I wasn’t invited to that guild’s raid groups, and my fried who invited me to the guild didn’t often raid with them to begin with (he prefers PUG clearing at reset). He’s kind of a weird guy, so all he would tell me to do is “gitgud”. I knew he was kidding, but I took it upon me as a challenge.

I joined a guild that was recruiting new and experienced raiders to fill out static teams. This guild did teamless raids (essentially, pick up groups formed within the guild, usually with half experienced members and half inexperienced members). I did two such teamless raids. In my first one, we downed Sabetha and VG, with me on cannons for the first ever time on Sabetha (I played daredevil for that fight). I struggled initially, but once our group started sticking to the cannon order, we downed her without breaking a sweat. The second teamless raid was my first foray into Salvation’s Pass on a new class, for me: Revenant. We defeated Slothasor on the second pull (I unknowingly dropped poison on the group twice, which I caught on recording), Trio in one try (well, it was face roll … ) and almost had Matthias down after 4 attempts (10-15%). We probably would have killed Matthias if we had more time. Not too bad for a group made of up of half the team going into SP for the first time.

Not long after that, the guild that initially didn’t invite me to groups always invites me into their raid group the moment they see me online, on their main raid nights (Monday) and other raid nights when they need me to fill in a role (usually Revenant, or DPS).

Walhalla.5473:

@ Coconut: I don’t think it was nice to Point out a Players Mistakes in the Forum here.
But TBH if I would make a Run with EXP Only and then also Tell the Mechanics and if someone screws up on Fixates or Poison multiple Time I’am seriously doubting that this Player is EXP and if he would not answer to me then.,I would assume that this Player just wants to get carried which results in a Kick.

I wasn’t pointing out mistakes, recheck the quoted people…
But I would if I was in that run (yes, I’m not nice!), a player went talking kitten about people in the forum, and then got busted by someone who has seen the truth, seems fair to me.

Personally I hate when non-exp players join exp groups, but when it’s my group (or I’m helping leading it) and if I’m not in an extreme hurry, I usually don’t mind taking some time explaining and giving a second chance.
But if a person doesn’t communicate or respond at all that would be an instant kick.
I mean, come on, we are all here to have fun, why are you muted and ignoring everyone on comms? we don’t bite!
In my opinion communication is the main factor for the difference between a fun/good run and a toxic/bad/complete disaster one.

Oh Sry, kitten ed with the Quote Coconut will edit it.

Your never too late until you try. You’ll just have to add some extra effort into finding a good group that’ll take a new player. Overcome and flourish my friend, its worth it.