Guild Wars 2

Silmar Alech.4305:

And they look down upon me. You wrote a different thing, but elitists I met acted like I described it. Perhaps they were just jerks and no real elitists, but it is very hard to distinguish between them.

Well, actually he is true and you shouldn’t deny this.
You guys make beliefe of that the acting he described is only cummon in lfg PuG groups and that’s just not true. Meanwhile many players have become those “elitists” which you always make fun of. They exactly act like this, beeing arrogant, acting like they would be superior and looking down to other people.
How I know? I already have run dungeons with a lot of people out of the forums here.

I would to those kind of posts if I was a native english speaker, but since I’m not, I’ll keep my sarcastic one sentence thingies.

May I ask you why you are doing that then ?
I’d also like to know names but that would cause drama so I better not ask for ’em.

GrimmR.3541:

J Eberle.9312:

GrimmR.3541:

You should really make a “Literary discussion thread“ swifty!

:o The dawn of a new era!
Eh but it’s 4am and I should be sleeping

Weirdo timezone ’murica is. Well make it tomorrow then, I would fancy a read aswell as a few posts!

Australia*

Best tro- I mean literary artist I ever knew. I will never meet another one like her ever again.

Wuups sorreyh.

This thread should be stickied so that people would know what the “elitists” think and how they see the game… and whatever their complaints there are people in game that just think differently and won’t change their mind so easily.

On a side note, when you see a topic that you consider a useless discussion, just don’t answer, it will magically disappear in page 2 where nobody will look for it

Cheers Ranael.

dominik.9721:

Well, actually he is true and you shouldn’t deny this.
You guys make beliefe of that the acting he described is only cummon in lfg PuG groups and that’s just not true. Meanwhile many players have become those “elitists” which you always make fun of. They exactly act like this, beeing arrogant, acting like they would be superior and looking down to other people.

I do make fun of elitists? Nooo… no… well, but if I do, then only a little, and only in my german posts perhaps, and only of people who look down on me.

But you did not understand the point of the OP and why he made this thread. The intention is a honest one, and he isn’t looking down on how I usually play, he simply don’t want to play this way (which is absolutely fine with me). I am also not being looked down upon entirely, since I realize way more details about the combat mechanics than the pro’s (or jerks) think I do.

It’s only that I am too lazy to take heed of all the details. It’s to stressing. And it would divide me from my guild, who isn’t made of very good players for the most part. The combat system is not bad, because it is unbalanced, or “broken”, which it isn’t, it is bad because it is so complicated that only very few people are actually able to fully understand it and use it in full. For example, only so few people are able to solo legendary dungeon bosses. And it’s not some brainless invincibuild like in GW1, it’s really their skill and comprehension of the combat system and the boss mechanics. I feel this is the real flaw in the combat system. Here, min/maxing went too far, in my opinion. I don’t want to equalize all players, but the difference between the capabilities of an elitist player should not be so ridiculously higher than the capabilities of a player with an ordinary skill level.

Silmar Alech.4305:

…And it’s not some brainless invincibuild like in GW1, it’s really their skill and comprehension of the combat system and the boss mechanics. I feel this is the real flaw in the combat system. Here, min/maxing went too far, in my opinion. I don’t want to equalize all players, but the difference between the capabilities of an elitist player should not be so ridiculously higher than the capabilities of a player with an ordinary skill level.

As a somewhat casual player myself, i wanted to give some input regarding this quote. I actually think that the gap between the elite and casuals are not big enough. I’d like the bosses in this game to hit harder and have more HP (i’m definitely in the minority in this one). This way mistakes or miscues in dodging/active defense will be way more punishing than it currently is.

An example I like to us is Ginva in HoTW. Everyone hates this boss. He hits hard frequently, has reapplying boons that make him more tanky, and it seems like he has tons of HP. I’ve seen so many people range him because he is a pain to melee. I think this is the way to go. When people actually try to melee, they will find his attacks a little more predicable and eventually fun, because it is punishing to make a mistake.

I remember when melandru in arah was the major topic of complaint. Oh god the whining that went on. Then bam! someone melees him. all of a sudden he is a fun boss. But if you make the smallest mistake you can get rekT immediately. As it should be.

If all bosses were designed to be this difficult, I’d think we would be in a much better place. Casuals would have their casual tactics and still complete it, although they will be punished with wasting time and boredom. Elites can use their elite tactics and kill it a lot fast, but 1 mistake and they wipe. That is were the gap should be.