Guild Wars 2

zencow.3651:

And of course, embrace the casualness.

I agree, this is what is killing my game.
It is catering to the average-ists. I see this on the forums (collaborative development), I see this in the content released (LS) and in the devs comments (apart from Tyler Chapman who can win 1v1 versus anyone of us folks).
What gives me the spleen is that there is no culture of excellence here.

Mmm. I know what you mean.

Playing WoW I remember seeing a guild get a couple banhammers and their World First achievement revoked by Blizzard for cheating, and I remember the collective community reaction being comparable to something like ‘little harsh, but, serves them right’. Playing this game, people do all sorts of antics ranging from mild cheese to baldface cheating, and the collective community reaction is to openly mock and deride others for not participating.

There’s something so utterly screwball about that.
I’ve been around long enough to remember typing N to go North, and I’ve never seen anything quite like it.

It’s not even like the community lacks a culture of excellence, if anything it has this kind of bizarro semi-anti-excellence culture. Where exerting the least amount of effort is highly regarded above all other things, no matter how positively or more often negatively this impacts skillful execution.

(Yes, yes, I know path of least resistance. Let me head that off before I hear it. To say GW2 players engage in the path of least resistance is like saying : one or two people in the EvE Online community might be considered slightly trollish, or XboX Live players can occasionally be a tad bit rude. What makes this weird is that it’s gone above and beyond what you see in other games to the point of being a defining characteristic of the community.)

Writetyper.1985:

There is nothing to do in this game

I can’t believe you’re all still maining PvE after 14 months.

What do you do, CoE over and over again? It’s clear that anet is only interested in casual zerg kitten in every living story, considering the best hard content we’ve gotten was taken away. That’s my message to you if you’re hanging on in desperation for good PvE stuff. The potential is there but it’s not going to go to use.

No, no, no. We do Arah over and over again.