Guild Wars 2

Nozdrum.2894:

Hey guys I will do 30% less damage and I will get 180% better loot.
And now your dungeon will take about 10% longer than it needs to be.

Hey why do you want to kick me, stop being so unsocial.

One player doing 30% less damage will not make things take 10% longer unless that one player is 1/3 of your total damage output. And if that is the case, then you should be asking how a player running MF is still dealing more damage than the rest of you who are not.

Kicking players (or agreeing with the kicks) for any reason but leeching is highly anti-social and does not make you or the community look good.

im just stating this without sigils or other things im critting for about 11k Damage and such … would you honestly kick me becouse my So called damage would be lower then that if i put some MF Sigils / runes into my weapons/armor and such?

Who eles deals about 9-11k Damage on a crit with 60% or higher to crit chance without sigils or such?

To me the arguement stating that a person running MF Will do less damage is only half true. Im finding im doing more damage then others in the group But i like them still becouse of Heals or such

Point being why all the hate? Its a pointless thing your complaining about over-all

I knew someone would point out that my math is wrong. I wanted to see if you understood what this thread is about and by doing so you showed me that you do not.
Everyone who is saying “mf is fine, I deal more damage than other people anyways” is not getting the point.
Yes you might deal more damage than people who don’t run mf-gear ( because they play bad or have a bad class ), but this does not mean you are somewhat morally allowed to do less damage yourself.
It is like saying “this man murdered a child, therefor I am also allowed to murder a child.”
You are dragging your party down with mf-gear. Yes there are other things that drag your party down, like bad players, bad skill-set, bad weapon-choices, bad positioning etc. .
But this does not make your choice of mf-gear any less selfish, you are sacrificing the time of everyone in the party so that you get more loot. You decided that you think you are special and deserve more loot, but you don’t you are party member as everybody else. What would you do if a party member would only damage a boss down to 30% and say “I have done my part now you will do the rest” and will go afk, while the rest also hit the boss? According to mf you would give him even better loot.
That is what OP wanted to convey, it is a selfish stat and should be removed from dungeons.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Magic-Find-Merged/first

Nozdrum.2894:

I knew someone would point out that my math is wrong. I wanted to see if you understood what this thread is about and by doing so you showed me that you do not.
Everyone who is saying “mf is fine, I deal more damage than other people anyways” is not getting the point.
Yes you might deal more damage than people who don’t run mf-gear ( because they play bad or have a bad class ), but this does not mean you are somewhat morally allowed to do less damage yourself.
It is like saying “this man murdered a child, therefor I am also allowed to murder a child.”
You are dragging your party down with mf-gear. Yes there are other things that drag your party down, like bad players, bad skill-set, bad weapon-choices, bad positioning etc. .
But this does not make your choice of mf-gear any less selfish, you are sacrificing the time of everyone in the party so that you get more loot. You decided that you think you are special and deserve more loot, but you don’t you are party member as everybody else. What would you do if a party member would only damage a boss down to 30% and say “I have done my part now you will do the rest” and will go afk, while the rest also hit the boss? According to mf you would give him even better loot.
That is what OP wanted to convey, it is a selfish stat and should be removed from dungeons.

So now your stating that i should have to have say a Red Ring of Death from Frac in order to even run Frac?

No, I am stating you should try to play at the maximum of your capabilites. And mf is not the best, since mf consumes a stat that would help the entire party.
If you dont have a red ring of death, thats fine you will get one eventually or just do dailies. But there is no reason to not have an corresponding exotic ring.

edit1: How exactly did you came to the conclusion that I would like you to have a red ring of death for fractacls, before you run fractals?

Nozdrum.2894:

No, I am stating you should try to play at the maximum of your capabilites. And mf is not the best, since mf consumes a stat that would help the entire party.
If you dont have a red ring of death, thats fine you will get one eventually or just do dailies. But there is no reason to not have an corresponding exotic ring.

edit1: How exactly did you came to the conclusion that I would like you to have a red ring of death for fractacls, before you run fractals?

The problem is i am playing at the Max of my capibilitys with MF Considering its the only sigils I have and such.

So Good Point Thanks for telling me i should use my MF Sigils <3

I find that major sigils, while obviously are less, are pretty decent and most of them are like 4s per. Assuming your being serious about only having a MF sigil atm and the reason would be money. If you want to play to the max, and you cant afford a better sigil than Luck, you should at least go for a Major of <DPS/Life/Whatever>. Feels stupid even saying this since obviously your trolling, but js, fail troll.