PS Physical warrior or PS condi warrior?

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Posted by: harry abbott.9658

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Just wondering what’s better to use for the current meta Physical PS warrior or condi PS warrior thanks!

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Posted by: thrag.9740

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Fractals – condi ps seems best to me

Dungeons – Physical ps

Raids by boss:
VG: both are good. Condi ps can do green circles well, but gs ps can bring more emergency cc for break bars. Bring one of each here.

Gors: both have advantages. Condi ps can hold spirits for days. Gs ps probably does more damage to gorse due to large hit box and gs 3 + dodges, but its not gonna be a huge difference. Additionally, condi ps can help clear close by orbs by directing scorched earth appropriately. Personally I just prefer gs ps here.

Sabetha: power is preferred for pug groups, because people expect the ps to stack inside sabetha and gs 3 the sticky bombs out fast. In an organized group, there is a case to be made for condi ps helping to kill the last champion faster. Maybe the pug meta has already caught up on this one though?

Sloth: Condi has the potential to really help clear ads with the very large aoe scorched earth. But this can also be the condi ps’s downfall, as you could easily catch your friendly slubbling. Overall, cleaving the ads with scorched earth also requires you to be facing inwards, which may not be so possible. I’d go gs ps here.

Trio: Condi probably better for burning the final boss. Plus lots of opportunity to cleave with scorched earth.

Matthias: Condi has the advantage of being able to dps boss even when spread out for bombs. Additionally it clear ice patches. But, gs ps can bring more emergency cc for getting friends out of the sacrifice. See which will benefit your group more and choose based on that.

Escort: Condi ps wins easily imo. Hold wargs for days, huge aoes to cover the entire road in. Tower team, gs is probably better, but tbh, most groups have a few of the tower team jump down in between captures, so I would still go condi ps.

KC: gs ps seems like the clear winner to me. More emergency cc is very nice here. Condi damage ramp up time hurts during the burn phase.

Xera: condi ps seems like the clear winner to me. If your part of the random team that gets teled in the second half, you can stand on pedestal and still help. Additionally you can aim scorched earth to hit xera and bloodstone shards.

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Posted by: Amaimon.7823

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Well, fractals have this weird curve where T1 and T2 are best done with raw DPS, whereas T4 is best done with condi’s. T3 is a bit of a middle ground. Its usually because in T1 and T2 everything dies so fast there’s no point in using condi’s which have a higher long-term dps.

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Posted by: NikeEU.7690

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Vg – one of each
Gorseval – equal
Sab – condi better
Sloth – condi better
Trio – condi better
Matt – condi better
Escort – gs on cap group condi on ground team
Kc – power better
Xera – condi better

Fractals – condi better
Dungeons – power better

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Posted by: Oh Snapalope.1378

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One time on Xera, she teleported a druid, both warriors, and the 2nd chrono to the buttons platform. The druid ran back to heal, and the warriors + chrono cannot hit the crystal at all due to all being melee. Needless to say we wiped. From now on always condi PS on Xera.

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Posted by: nagr.1593

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Sab – condi better
Sloth – condi better
Escort – gs on cap group condi on ground team
Xera – condi better

I don’t understand ur reasoning for these..

For sab, power ps better imo since u can take big bombs most of time. For instance on chrono, I have trouble and have to interrupt rotations to move if ps are not stacked on top.

Sloth, I dunno that it matters overmuch tbh since u can still cleave adds long as they get pulled in. It’s not ur job to pull in mobs. Also I take shroom as ps so I’m not rly useful there except for banners and stuff

Escort – prty much faceroll tbh and it doesn’t matter whether u run condi or power. If u got good team that can pull mobs, power works on grnd also. Tbh most time I do escort even when not war, I see most of time the ps are dying.. Some of them condi too so idk

Xera I run power ps and it’s fine anyway. So what u don’t stand on platforms, that’s just a small part of xera tbh. Shard clears I agree melee is weak, but that’s y u have team. On xera fight itself (boss fight) dunno that there any clear winner either.

Fractals – condi better

So here my question is.. why? I dunno I rarely even have problem with melee in t4s. But I dunno if this related, but on 100 cm few days ago, I got kicked out after we kill 1st boss just bc I not running condi build. I never died that fight either, I also promise not die later. Plus their LFg post said nothin abt condi build. So I’m at a loss what to say at moments like this.

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Posted by: NikeEU.7690

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You can take the bombs at sab with condi if you want but really that’s a very trivial point.

If you eat the shoots on warrior at sloth I’m not sure why you’re worried about efficiency since your group obviously isnt.

Condi is far superior at xera and again I’m not sure why you’re arguing with me about efficiency when your group isn’t doing it as efficient as possible.

As far as fractals goes you’re probably killing everyone with social awkwardness and you aren’t aware of it that’s why you got kicked. With condi you just stand 200 range away from melee and get just as good if not better results with less downsides.

The point of all this is you’re arguing with me saYing power is just as good if you use pug strats and don’t care about efficiency. That’s true but if you’re using basic pug strats nothing really “matters” you could replace a warrior entirely with something else. This thread is ostensibly about doing things efficiently or the “meta” way so it doesn’t surprise me you disagree.

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Posted by: DutchRiders.2871

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Sab – condi better
Sloth – condi better
Escort – gs on cap group condi on ground team
Xera – condi better

I don’t understand ur reasoning for these..

For sab, power ps better imo since u can take big bombs most of time. For instance on chrono, I have trouble and have to interrupt rotations to move if ps are not stacked on top.

Sloth, I dunno that it matters overmuch tbh since u can still cleave adds long as they get pulled in. It’s not ur job to pull in mobs. Also I take shroom as ps so I’m not rly useful there except for banners and stuff

Escort – prty much faceroll tbh and it doesn’t matter whether u run condi or power. If u got good team that can pull mobs, power works on grnd also. Tbh most time I do escort even when not war, I see most of time the ps are dying.. Some of them condi too so idk

Xera I run power ps and it’s fine anyway. So what u don’t stand on platforms, that’s just a small part of xera tbh. Shard clears I agree melee is weak, but that’s y u have team. On xera fight itself (boss fight) dunno that there any clear winner either.

Fractals – condi better

So here my question is.. why? I dunno I rarely even have problem with melee in t4s. But I dunno if this related, but on 100 cm few days ago, I got kicked out after we kill 1st boss just bc I not running condi build. I never died that fight either, I also promise not die later. Plus their LFg post said nothin abt condi build. So I’m at a loss what to say at moments like this.

Both condi and Power dps are decent builds, however in practice condi deals better damage since it has range and an easier time keeping rotations up.

Only keep construct clearly favors Power PS for end game if you ask me and maybe some groups need the extra cc from power.

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Posted by: Lendruil.9061

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Sloth, I dunno that it matters overmuch tbh since u can still cleave adds long as they get pulled in. It’s not ur job to pull in mobs. Also I take shroom as ps so I’m not rly useful there except for banners and stuff

If you eat shrooms as warrior then your group doesnt get your banners and ea, but you are actually buffing the boss.

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Posted by: Ropechef.6192

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Sloth, I dunno that it matters overmuch tbh since u can still cleave adds long as they get pulled in. It’s not ur job to pull in mobs. Also I take shroom as ps so I’m not rly useful there except for banners and stuff

If you eat shrooms as warrior then your group doesnt get your banners and ea, but you are actually buffing the boss.

wait what?
no kidding?

that is hilarious!

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Posted by: Sigfodr.9576

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Sloth, I dunno that it matters overmuch tbh since u can still cleave adds long as they get pulled in. It’s not ur job to pull in mobs. Also I take shroom as ps so I’m not rly useful there except for banners and stuff

If you eat shrooms as warrior then your group doesnt get your banners and ea, but you are actually buffing the boss.

For some reason I still meet alot of people that dont know this. But its fairly simple if you think about it. You are on same team as sloth. So naturally your buffs also help sloth ^^ Thats why you generally leave slub duty to temps/thiefs/DH’s

The same at matt btw, when you are getting sacrificed. We had a chrono get sacrified a few weeks back, just after he used his reflect (in matt’s invuld bubble part), this made the reflect nolonger reflect. Since now the chrono (and therefore his reflect) and matt was on same team

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Posted by: Chris McSwag.4683

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Vg – one of each
Gorseval – equal
Sab – condi better
Sloth – condi better
Trio – condi better
Matt – condi better
Escort – gs on cap group condi on ground team
Kc – power better
Xera – condi better

Fractals – condi better
Dungeons – power better

While I agree with most, why condi for sloth? Condies get cleared every cc phase and your cc contribution is low at best.

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Posted by: NikeEU.7690

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Vg – one of each
Gorseval – equal
Sab – condi better
Sloth – condi better
Trio – condi better
Matt – condi better
Escort – gs on cap group condi on ground team
Kc – power better
Xera – condi better

Fractals – condi better
Dungeons – power better

While I agree with most, why condi for sloth? Condies get cleared every cc phase and your cc contribution is low at best.

Condi gets better dps on sloth by a little bit. Thats predicated on Power using Dumplings. If Power is able to go back to using Dragons Breath Buns without Might suffering Power would be slightly better.

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Posted by: Chris McSwag.4683

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Vg – one of each
Gorseval – equal
Sab – condi better
Sloth – condi better
Trio – condi better
Matt – condi better
Escort – gs on cap group condi on ground team
Kc – power better
Xera – condi better

Fractals – condi better
Dungeons – power better

While I agree with most, why condi for sloth? Condies get cleared every cc phase and your cc contribution is low at best.

Condi gets better dps on sloth by a little bit. Thats predicated on Power using Dumplings. If Power is able to go back to using Dragons Breath Buns without Might suffering Power would be slightly better.

Despite the cleanse? And just be sure, I assume this is with full dps condi ps with extra might from other sources and not the smoldering/dumpling variants?

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Posted by: NikeEU.7690

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Just run a legal* dps meter.

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Posted by: reapex.8546

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Well, fractals have this weird curve where T1 and T2 are best done with raw DPS, whereas T4 is best done with condi’s. T3 is a bit of a middle ground. Its usually because in T1 and T2 everything dies so fast there’s no point in using condi’s which have a higher long-term dps.

Anet made power builds more viable in T4 fractals several patches ago. Unfortunately, not everyone reads the patch notes.