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Posted by: nexxe.7081

nexxe.7081

I started a group for CoF Story Mode, and it was my first time in there. We finally finished, and during the middle of the cut scene, i get kicked out.

It so happens, that the person who enters the dungeon first, or starts the cutscene at the beginning, is the group leader.

So he leaves, and everyone gets kicked out because of it. That is so frustrating and beyond stupid. It’s poor game design. I never experienced this any other MMO.

I don’t even know if i got to loot the chest after the final boss, and i didn’t even get to finish the cutscene.

I feel as if my time was wasted, and i feel very discouraged to even do them again, especially if this is the normal thing with GW2 dungeons.

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Posted by: Miaire.5468

Miaire.5468

There are many threads like this in this forums but I think Anet hasn’t addressed this matter other than saying it’s difficult to fix because of the way they designed it.

Don’t get too discouraged though. Not all parties are opened by clueless people/jerks, sometimes you’re just unlucky when it does happen. To minimize the risk, run with people you trust (friends/guild), or if pugging, open the instance yourself.

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Posted by: nexxe.7081

nexxe.7081

There are many threads like this in this forums but I think Anet hasn’t addressed this matter other than saying it’s difficult to fix because of the way they designed it.

Don’t get too discouraged though. Not all parties are opened by clueless people/jerks, sometimes you’re just unlucky when it does happen. To minimize the risk, run with people you trust (friends/guild), or if pugging, open the instance yourself.

Thanks for encouragement, but it doesn’t look like this will be fixed. I read another thread, and the content designer addressed this over a year ago.

I would’ve started the dungeon myself, but it was contested (another stupid idea). I didn’t know about the Guesting exploit either, to get around it, until i read another thread.

Overall, this left a really bad experience with me.

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Posted by: Saulius.8430

Saulius.8430

…Guesting exploit…

i hope you were joking

kill all ze thingz

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Posted by: nexxe.7081

nexxe.7081

…Guesting exploit…

i hope you were joking

Would you rather i used the words: workaround, circumvent, or bypass? They are all basically the same, semantically speaking. A way to get inside the dungeon using another instance of the same area.

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Posted by: Noah.4756

Noah.4756

I started a group for CoF Story Mode, and it was my first time in there. We finally finished, and during the middle of the cut scene, i get kicked out.

It so happens, that the person who enters the dungeon first, or starts the cutscene at the beginning, is the group leader.

So he leaves, and everyone gets kicked out because of it. That is so frustrating and beyond stupid. It’s poor game design. I never experienced this any other MMO.

I don’t even know if i got to loot the chest after the final boss, and i didn’t even get to finish the cutscene.

I feel as if my time was wasted, and i feel very discouraged to even do them again, especially if this is the normal thing with GW2 dungeons.

It’s indeed true that whoever starts the dungeon is the host. So if the host leaves the team, everyone get’s kicked out. There are multiple other threads regarding this issue.

If you got kicked out during the cutscene the host didn’t get the chest either, because the chest isn’t rewarded until everyone is done watching the cutscene. Hope that gives you some reconciliation in some way.

The game has always had a weak party design. Not until recently this game started to support a LFG tool (although it does work great now). Just like the LFG tool, host migration should’ve been part of the game since release but unfortunately has been lacking for at least a year. I’m sure they are working hard in finding a proper solution though but probably it is not as easy as we think.

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Posted by: Casmurro.9046

Casmurro.9046

^ That. At the end of a story mode dungeon you get 50s plus that chest that pops up on your screen, just like those daily chests, that chest only pops up when everyone finishes watching the cutscene.

To see if you got the achievement go to your achievement panel, and look if the crucible of eternity exploration is marking 1/4 (one story mode and 3 exp paths). If its 1/4 it means that you got the achievement.

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Posted by: JJBigs.8456

JJBigs.8456

Maybe they got tired of people watching the cutscene. Next time skip it, and you will be rewarded. If someone watches all cutscenes people think your lagged out or bugged and kick you. Could of been an accident.

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Posted by: Fror.2163

Fror.2163

Well, it’s a Story mode. People should know better, in Story mode, everyone can be a first-timer. I had the case yesterday where I was the opener of a story mode. One guy watched all the cutscenes. All. Me and the three other guys were bored of this, but by respect for the newcomer, we didn’t kick him or even told him to stop watching. I however said that he should not expect people to be as normal as we were: there are jerks out there that take their reward and end the instance in a heartbeat.

But well… while he watched his video, we spammed /dance, /laugh, /cry and other emotes. We even opened a box of fun. Sometimes people lose the sense of fun.

Frór (yes, with the accent!)

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Posted by: Atreides.3709

Atreides.3709

I ran, or rather, attempted to run, three dungeons last night. Sadly, in each instance, whoever the party leader was got tired and just left, kicking us out of the dungeon.

This is so frustrating. It was an hour and a half wasted – which is seeming to happen more and more often. More players, because of the LFG system, can readily find a new dungeon group, they’ll just serial abandon the dungeons until they find a group that goes at the speed of light and knows all the dungeon ‘exploits’ (places to skip content, little ledges to kitten onto, etc.).

I’d propose that each person is limited to one dungeon abandon per 24 hours. If they leave twice in 24 hours, they can’t get into any dungeon until the next daily reset. But, I see in other threads that this issue has been known, and griped about for 15 months.

The only thing I know to do is to just not buy gems and support the game until things like this, that the community deserves (yes, we deserve to not worry about wasting an hour of our time), are fixed.

shrugs

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Posted by: Fror.2163

Fror.2163

@Atreides: a better solution would be to remove the link between the opener and the instance, to make it party-wise.

Frór (yes, with the accent!)

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Posted by: rozcinana.7249

rozcinana.7249

If I recall correctly, everyone needs to finish or skip the cutscene before they can get the end reward in dungeons (token and gold). So if your party leader left before you finished the cutscene, he probably didn’t get the reward either. Correct me if I’m wrong.

Just to be safe though, since everyone typically skips cutscenes, let your team know you want to watch it so they are aware.

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Posted by: MastaNeenja.1537

MastaNeenja.1537

Sounds like they left, it is bad party design there’s several threads on this but I don’t know how high on the priority ladder this is for Anet to fix it.

Because some people lack any real patience or empathy it is a good idea to give a heads up when you join the party that you have not seen the cut scenes and would like to watch them. Most people are pretty cool with it when you ask.

Once I pugged an obviously new player in AC, they wanted to watch the cut scene and a second PUG wanted to kick them for watching it… so I kicked the second pug instead. The guy that got kicked had done some other annoying stuff already and that was the last straw. So it still pays to be polite in dungeons.

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Posted by: Agony.3542

Agony.3542

…Guesting exploit…

i hope you were joking

Would you rather i used the words: workaround, circumvent, or bypass? They are all basically not the same, semantically speaking. A way to get inside the dungeon using another instance of the same area.

ftfy.

Exploiting is making some kind of profit by using an unintended mechanic/glitch/bug. Guesting however is by no means unintended and in place for players on servers that might not have enough players to complete certain events, like the gate events for example.

RIP game 2012-2014

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Posted by: nexxe.7081

nexxe.7081

I didn’t get the achievement. I tried to do the meta to unlock CoF, but the respawn rate and difficulty is too hard to do solo, and i ask for help in /map chat, but nobody shows up. The fact that i have to use Guesting to even enter a dungeon is ridiculous. Add to the fact, that i might not even be party leader, and i’ll lose out on loot and the achievement again. It’s not worth the frustration. Screw it. I’ll just play another MMO where the design is more professional and not amateur. If it’s not being fixed after over a year, there’s no point waiting for another year. What a shame for new players, or returning players. Thanks for everyone trying to keep things positive and encouraging.