Guild Wars 2

Has there been any official word on this yet?

Do you got any reason to think they will not reset the same time as the other weeklys named guild missions?

Linken.6345:

Do you got any reason to think they will not reset the same time as the other weeklys named guild missions?

Yea…the fact that I haven’t seen a dev say that’s the case is reason enough.

:O

Are you kidding me? They’re going to “reset”? Why the doggie (tired of seeing kitten, but you can think of a word that starts with F!) wouldn’t they be like dungeons/fractals where you could run as many as you wish repetitively!?

/sigh – please tell me this is a bad dream!

sparc.3649:

:O

Are you kidding me? They’re going to “reset”? Why the doggie (tired of seeing kitten, but you can think of a word that starts with F!) wouldn’t they be like dungeons/fractals where you could run as many as you wish repetitively!?

/sigh – please tell me this is a bad dream!

Because all raids eventually end up on farm status in every game. No matter how difficult they are. Raids are meant to give significantly better rewards than other content. And i don’t think they want yet another source of raw gold being dumped repeatedly into the economy.

Shadelang.3012:

sparc.3649:

:O

Are you kidding me? They’re going to “reset”? Why the doggie (tired of seeing kitten, but you can think of a word that starts with F!) wouldn’t they be like dungeons/fractals where you could run as many as you wish repetitively!?

/sigh – please tell me this is a bad dream!

Because all raids eventually end up on farm status in every game. No matter how difficult they are. Raids are meant to give significantly better rewards than other content. And i don’t think they want yet another source of raw gold being dumped repeatedly into the economy.

Okay, then make it “daily” just like dungeon “rewards”. Of course you could “do” a dungeon more than once per day, but you only got ONE chest with the “daily reward” for doing it. Example, 1g55s for AC. So of course you could run more than one dungeon per day even, but you wouldn’t/coudln’t get your fancy chest with your golds (so ofc most people wouldn’t do more than one per day because the loots themselves just weren’t/aren’t worth it). So I’d be fine with raid’s being “daily”. NOT weekly, unless it was offset properly. Example, the reward was 100-200 (168g is a decent number) gold for the “week” (for doing your one raid for the week). If it’s going to be “so hard” this shouldn’t be a problem. However I still don’t “see” this happening, especially after their (which I am also kittened off about because I wasn’t a “gold farmer”) dungeon nerfs. Yes, I’m actually mad about that, not because I was one, but because of the unfairness that so many people were allowed to do it and for so long, and now even if I wanted to I couldn’t. Call it buthurt if you want, but it’s plain and simply NOT fair!

So if they’re not going to make it “daily” (@ about~24g), or they’re not going to reward something to the likes of 168g for doing one (for the “week”/“weekly”) then it’s not even going to be worth it! If the drops themselves are typical ANET account bound or soulbound, then they’ll make it even more worthless (no way for me to turn my efforts into moneyz if that’s what I so happen to want to do)!

I can understand if they want to minimize/control the “raw gold” going into the market, but by robbing people of the opportunity to make big money like others have already done, is simply not fair – period FULL STOP. If they want to control the “raw gold” by not giving good gold rewards, but rather make GOOD drops that will be worth tons of money, that would actually be a perfect solution that would keep them AND me happy! This way people who have tons of gold (prior dungeon gold farmers) can spend their money on my drops! Then less ‘raw gold" enters the economy, yet I can make tons (if I chose to sell my drops). The key is not only having “good loots”, but assuring they’re NOT account or soul bound!

All short of one of the two above, it simply wont be fair. And if they’re not fair about it – I’m gone for good!

sparc.3649:

Shadelang.3012:

sparc.3649:

:O

Are you kidding me? They’re going to “reset”? Why the doggie (tired of seeing kitten, but you can think of a word that starts with F!) wouldn’t they be like dungeons/fractals where you could run as many as you wish repetitively!?

/sigh – please tell me this is a bad dream!

Because all raids eventually end up on farm status in every game. No matter how difficult they are. Raids are meant to give significantly better rewards than other content. And i don’t think they want yet another source of raw gold being dumped repeatedly into the economy.

Okay, then make it “daily” just like dungeon “rewards”. Of course you could “do” a dungeon more than once per day, but you only got ONE chest with the “daily reward” for doing it. Example, 1g55s for AC. So of course you could run more than one dungeon per day even, but you wouldn’t/coudln’t get your fancy chest with your golds (so ofc most people wouldn’t do more than one per day because the loots themselves just weren’t/aren’t worth it). So I’d be fine with raid’s being “daily”. NOT weekly, unless it was offset properly. Example, the reward was 100-200 (168g is a decent number) gold for the “week” (for doing your one raid for the week). If it’s going to be “so hard” this shouldn’t be a problem. However I still don’t “see” this happening, especially after their (which I am also kittened off about because I wasn’t a “gold farmer”) dungeon nerfs. Yes, I’m actually mad about that, not because I was one, but because of the unfairness that so many people were allowed to do it and for so long, and now even if I wanted to I couldn’t. Call it buthurt if you want, but it’s plain and simply NOT fair!

So if they’re not going to make it “daily” (@ about~24g), or they’re not going to reward something to the likes of 168g for doing one (for the “week”/“weekly”) then it’s not even going to be worth it! If the drops themselves are typical ANET account bound or soulbound, then they’ll make it even more worthless (no way for me to turn my efforts into moneyz if that’s what I so happen to want to do)!

I can understand if they want to minimize/control the “raw gold” going into the market, but by robbing people of the opportunity to make big money like others have already done, is simply not fair – period FULL STOP. If they want to control the “raw gold” by not giving good gold rewards, but rather make GOOD drops that will be worth tons of money, that would actually be a perfect solution that would keep them AND me happy! This way people who have tons of gold (prior dungeon gold farmers) can spend their money on my drops! Then less ‘raw gold" enters the economy, yet I can make tons (if I chose to sell my drops). The key is not only having “good loots”, but assuring they’re NOT account or soul bound!

All short of one of the two above, it simply wont be fair. And if they’re not fair about it – I’m gone for good!

Whether its worth doing or not isn’t the purpose of raids. People don’t do raids to farm gold. If thats why your doing them than you missed out on what there supposed to be about.

Raids should be profitable yes. But in the sense that they give you more than you lose when you do them. And you have a CHANCE for something rare.

Raids are there for the challenge. And to PROVE your good enough to do them. The rewards you get are such that you can SHOW people that you were good enough to do them. Titles. Unqiue weapons and armor skins. These have always been the primary rewards of raids.

When I was raiding in WoW and I put on my top tier armor. No one asked me if I knew the fight anymore. No one questioned whether or not I was good enough. Because I was SHOWING people that I was. Thats one of the big rewards of raiding.

The second is the feeling of overcoming a challenge. That adrenaline rush that hits you as you get the boss at 3% and he hits his enrage timer. And your desperately bursting through that last bit of health in order to kill it while your friends start dieing around you. And you succeed. That is arguably far more important than even the skins.

I don’t feel that raids should be this heavy gold burst into the economy. I feel it should have the potential to give very good rewards (Though it shouldnt be guaranteed). But those rewards don’t have to be gold.

As for gold. If you do raids alot your going to max out on ascended armor and weapons. Eventually you won’t need anymore. Which means you can sell them. Last I checked ascended weapons sell for a gold each. If the drop rate is high enough thats another gold you get per boss kill ontop of the kill reward itself.

Your suggestion to turn it into a daily makes it the exact same thing we had with dungeons. When people find the easiest way to do it. And they find they can do that repeatedly for profit each day. It stops being about fighting the boss. Frankly. Id say that was what killed the REAL dungeon community more than anything else. And left an army of farmers in its place.

It should be profitable enough to be worth doing. I.E. if you succeed it should pay you back the investment you spent. (foods/oils/sigils/runes etc…). But it should NEVER become the most profitable thing in this game. Or they run the risk of not being raids anymore.

Cameron Rich.3905:

Hey everyone, just as a heads up:

Raids Reset at 12:30am (PDT) Monday Morning

Beautiful. Thanks for clarifying!

edit Wait…so it’s PDT and not PST, right? I.e. as of right now, it’s 12:09 pm PDT, even though in PST, it’s 11:09 am. Just verifying since I thought everyone in the states ran on PST (and cuz I suck at time conversions).

sparc.3649:

Okay, then make it “daily” just like dungeon “rewards”. Of course you could “do” a dungeon more than once per day, but you only got ONE chest with the “daily reward” for doing it.

they did. its a 168 hour day. not a 24 hour day.

Dahkeus.8243:

Cameron Rich.3905:

Hey everyone, just as a heads up:

Raids Reset at 12:30am (PDT) Monday Morning

Beautiful. Thanks for clarifying!

edit Wait…so it’s PDT and not PST, right? I.e. as of right now, it’s 12:09 pm PDT, even though in PST, it’s 11:09 am. Just verifying since I thought everyone in the states ran on PST (and cuz I suck at time conversions).

Daylight savings is why. I would instead go by server time.

Edit: grammar

Ayrilana.1396:

Dahkeus.8243:

Cameron Rich.3905:

Hey everyone, just as a heads up:

Raids Reset at 12:30am (PDT) Monday Morning

Beautiful. Thanks for clarifying!

edit Wait…so it’s PDT and not PST, right? I.e. as of right now, it’s 12:09 pm PDT, even though in PST, it’s 11:09 am. Just verifying since I thought everyone in the states ran on PST (and cuz I suck at time conversions).

Daylight savings is why. Would instead go by server time.

Oh yea, forgot that servers don’t do daylight savings. Gotcha, thanks!

sparc.3649:

Shadelang.3012:

sparc.3649:

:O

Are you kidding me? They’re going to “reset”? Why the doggie (tired of seeing kitten, but you can think of a word that starts with F!) wouldn’t they be like dungeons/fractals where you could run as many as you wish repetitively!?

/sigh – please tell me this is a bad dream!

Because all raids eventually end up on farm status in every game. No matter how difficult they are. Raids are meant to give significantly better rewards than other content. And i don’t think they want yet another source of raw gold being dumped repeatedly into the economy.

Okay, then make it “daily” just like dungeon “rewards”. Of course you could “do” a dungeon more than once per day, but you only got ONE chest with the “daily reward” for doing it. Example, 1g55s for AC. So of course you could run more than one dungeon per day even, but you wouldn’t/coudln’t get your fancy chest with your golds (so ofc most people wouldn’t do more than one per day because the loots themselves just weren’t/aren’t worth it). So I’d be fine with raid’s being “daily”. NOT weekly, unless it was offset properly. Example, the reward was 100-200 (168g is a decent number) gold for the “week” (for doing your one raid for the week). If it’s going to be “so hard” this shouldn’t be a problem. However I still don’t “see” this happening, especially after their (which I am also kittened off about because I wasn’t a “gold farmer”) dungeon nerfs. Yes, I’m actually mad about that, not because I was one, but because of the unfairness that so many people were allowed to do it and for so long, and now even if I wanted to I couldn’t. Call it buthurt if you want, but it’s plain and simply NOT fair!

So if they’re not going to make it “daily” (@ about~24g), or they’re not going to reward something to the likes of 168g for doing one (for the “week”/“weekly”) then it’s not even going to be worth it! If the drops themselves are typical ANET account bound or soulbound, then they’ll make it even more worthless (no way for me to turn my efforts into moneyz if that’s what I so happen to want to do)!

I can understand if they want to minimize/control the “raw gold” going into the market, but by robbing people of the opportunity to make big money like others have already done, is simply not fair – period FULL STOP. If they want to control the “raw gold” by not giving good gold rewards, but rather make GOOD drops that will be worth tons of money, that would actually be a perfect solution that would keep them AND me happy! This way people who have tons of gold (prior dungeon gold farmers) can spend their money on my drops! Then less ‘raw gold" enters the economy, yet I can make tons (if I chose to sell my drops). The key is not only having “good loots”, but assuring they’re NOT account or soul bound!

All short of one of the two above, it simply wont be fair. And if they’re not fair about it – I’m gone for good!

In the DnT post on Reddit from the guys who cleared it, one person got the ghostly infusion and sold it instantly for 900g on the TP. They do have rare rewards with raids.

100 gold is clearly way too much for the amount of time commitment a raid would take after having mastered it. You could make a lot of money running dungeons in the old system, but it would take up your entire day to do so. With raids they made the reward higher per time spent (once you master the raid), but a lower ceiling for mass farming. That’s the general trend that ANet have been taking with rewards.

Your other wish for drops that have value was actually fulfilled. Crafting materials have skyrocketed in value since the HoT economy changes. You can make a ton of money by selling them.

You could probably run Ulgoth once per day in about the same amount of time many dungeon paths would take and would earn more money than before on linen and leather drops.

You’re absolutely kidding me, next time you decide to add content like this please tell the community that raids have a timer, the whole reason I bought HoT is for raids. This is absolute bs, I understand you want people to play all aspects of the game, but a majority of players just simply don’t want to do that. A majority likes a challenge, and figuring out how to overcome a challenge, like the underworld on dhuums release, you made him extremely hard to fight and I absolutely LOVED it. This is a low blow Anet. Waiting two weeks to recieve my paycheck is enough for me, I play games to avoid the timegates involved in real life. Please see into the light, and get rid of this gamebreaking feature. Considering all I do now is low reward fractals, I felt as though I could do raids, and I’m not saying make legendary armor easy to get, make the rng on it super low, like the voltaic spear. I don’t play your game to talk to people in LA I play your game to challenge myself, and so far you have literally no fun challenging content asides from fractals 85-100 and I GET NOTHING FROM THEM. Real life people want to play your game, and enjoy their time on it, not do they’re second job after work, cause that’s all I feel this game is right now.

chask.6028:

You’re absolutely kidding me, next time you decide to add content like this please tell the community that raids have a timer, the whole reason I bought HoT is for raids. This is absolute bs, I understand you want people to play all aspects of the game, but a majority of players just simply don’t want to do that. A majority likes a challenge, and figuring out how to overcome a challenge, like the underworld on dhuums release, you made him extremely hard to fight and I absolutely LOVED it. This is a low blow Anet. Waiting two weeks to recieve my paycheck is enough for me, I play games to avoid the timegates involved in real life. Please see into the light, and get rid of this gamebreaking feature. Considering all I do now is low reward fractals, I felt as though I could do raids, and I’m not saying make legendary armor easy to get, make the rng on it super low, like the voltaic spear. I don’t play your game to talk to people in LA I play your game to challenge myself, and so far you have literally no fun challenging content asides from fractals 85-100 and I GET NOTHING FROM THEM. Real life people want to play your game, and enjoy their time on it, not do they’re second job after work, cause that’s all I feel this game is right now.

Hey did like months ago.

Ewww. So there are locks on raids on GW2? I was hoping you wouldn’t make that dumb mistake that most other games have made. GG on guilds with people not in multiples of 10.
Also, please fix mission “Into the Labyrinth” and remove my flood control timer. Seriously. I can’t communicate here with a 5 minute flood control timer. I’m not a robot. Wasn’t the 2 day suspension enough?

Havent raided yet but from what they said no lock out on raids only the rewards are once a week.

So you can keep going in and mastering it for no profit mate