Guild Wars 2

Arkinos.7245:

While I agree that almost all JPs suck (mostly because of how bad the camera in this game is) you can always ask a Mesmer to do it for you if you have trouble doing it yourself.

The camera is adjustable now.

Celtic Lady.3729:

Sorin.4310:

More like the Anti Fun Club, amirite?

Depends on your definition of fun and I think it’s fairly obvious that most people in this thread aren’t characterizing JPs as fun.

So, no.

Sounds like someone wants to join the Anti Fun Club.

Sorin.4310:

Celtic Lady.3729:

Sorin.4310:

More like the Anti Fun Club, amirite?

Depends on your definition of fun and I think it’s fairly obvious that most people in this thread aren’t characterizing JPs as fun.

So, no.

Sounds like someone wants to join the Anti Fun Club.

While I find most jumping puzzles fun, not everyone has fun doing the same things. What’s fun for me is boring for someone else and vice versa. I find farming the same events over and over and over again boring, but I know others have fun doing that.

Sorin.4310:

Celtic Lady.3729:

Sorin.4310:

More like the Anti Fun Club, amirite?

Depends on your definition of fun and I think it’s fairly obvious that most people in this thread aren’t characterizing JPs as fun.

So, no.

Sounds like someone wants to join the Anti JP Club.

Fixed that for you.

SirDrygan.1823:

I find that people having problems with Jumping Puzzle is because they have input lag. Maybe due to their mouse, old desktop, internet connection, keyboard, memory, multitasking…etc. …snip

Or you know maybe, old, bad nerves, vertigo, bad eyesight, etc etc. Not all problems are with the players rig, I have a nice rig, only about a year old, but as I am getting older jumping puzzles or just vertical environments are something I dread. I never did like platformers even in my youth.

Before someone says maybe this game is not for you, well I am rather proficient with my character and have in fact beat Liandri (sp) without the cheesy cheats either. I do fine on a level playing field, but when I need to maneuver around the third axis it goes south fast.

I realize that many players like this type of thing, but I AM REALLY HOPING the next xpac returns to a more season 1 approach; that was much more fun for me. If not I will keep my money and possibly move on to a less platform style game.

Edit: clarity

As someone who enjoys JP and has no trouble with them all I can really say is git gud or get a mesmer.

/me secretly set fire in the club.

I love the concept of jumping puzzles! They are fun and it’s an easy way to get achievement points.

I love jumping puzzles in the game. I do have one plea to their creators: please remember that you don’t need to keep making them harder and harder and harder. I did all of the original JPs and loved them. However I have not been able to complete a single JP that has been released since launch. None of the holiday, living world, new maps, LA, nothing (except the skritt thing, but you didn’t have to jump for that.)

So while adding JPs can be awesome to find while exploring, consider adding JPs that aren’t outrageously difficult and frustrating to the point you want to do them on a mesmer.

I don’t mind the ones that are too hard for me because other people like them, but I wouldn’t mind some JPs along the same difficulty level as griffonrook run.

Not a huge fan of jumping puzzles but can tolerate them once in a while. However the fact that there are now a bunch of mastery points tied to JP is annoying me greatly. It seems to me that the mastery points in Tyria are much harder to get than the ones in HoT.

This is definitely one thing that has ruined my game experience. My current Fractals level is 6. I don’t think I’ll be able to progress because of this.

I think you definitely are not getting much fun from this game, Cedric.

Have taken a huge break from GW2 forums because of things, started reading this thread because I love JPs and I was like “wait a second, I don’t remember saying these things”, realize now this is a huge necro thread, holy smokes!

Cedric, I don’t think you realize you can skip specific fractals now—which means you never have to worry about the oh, so complicated small jumps from one platform to the next in the harpy fractal.

Necro a thread that was already necroed half a year ago. I’m not sure what to make of this.

Yeah I couldn’t manage a decent set of jumps if my life depended on it – and timed jumps? forget it.

Ive managed to avoid most of them but caved in and did Lessons from the sky in Labyrinthine Cliffs and still have nightmares about the jump at the top of the ship.

I also had to go into Fractals to finish of Mawdrey and ended up getting Cliffside and proceeded to fall off so much i must have ended up on everyones block list.

SAB was abandoned after 6 days which is a shame because i love the skins

I just think that nothing Meta achievement or unique skins wise should HAVE to involve JP’s

#shudder

Speaking on behalf of my main toon who is an old fat bloke who does not like heights, he’s 100% happy for jumping puzzles to exist in the game but he thinks they should be a side dish not a main course.

If they are to remain a main course then at least give us more responsive controls and a camera that can give us a better view of where the heck we are.

GW1: WHY CAN WE NOT JUMP?

Arenanet adds jumping to GW2, and attaches gameplay to it so it’s actually more useful than the /jump emote

GW2: WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE HAVE TO JUMP?

Just because there’s a reward at the end doesn’t make it required content. You can safely ignore content you don’t find fun in GW2 are never going to suffer a stat penalty for doing so. If you don’t like the content, then learn to live without the rewards from it. You don’t NEED them in a mechanical sense. You just WANT them.

PopeUrban.2578:

GW1: WHY CAN WE NOT JUMP?

Arenanet adds jumping to GW2, and attaches gameplay to it so it’s actually more useful than the /jump emote

GW2: WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE HAVE TO JUMP?

Just because there’s a reward at the end doesn’t make it required content. You can safely ignore content you don’t find fun in GW2 are never going to suffer a stat penalty for doing so. If you don’t like the content, then learn to live without the rewards from it. You don’t NEED them in a mechanical sense. You just WANT them.

This is not true.

There are several story missions/fractals and other numerous activities which require the technique of jumping around and walking on very thin floor spaces. I’ve done some of them myself, without having a choice.

Draknar.5748:

Have taken a huge break from GW2 forums because of things, started reading this thread because I love JPs and I was like “wait a second, I don’t remember saying these things”, realize now this is a huge necro thread, holy smokes!

Cedric, I don’t think you realize you can skip specific fractals now—which means you never have to worry about the oh, so complicated small jumps from one platform to the next in the harpy fractal.

Why should a player have to skip an entire fractal experience just because we are forced to jump to get around?

Ardid.7203:

I think you definitely are not getting much fun from this game, Cedric.

I’m enjoying elements of it.

I love the jumping puzzles. I’m so glad they’re in the game. But I know there are some people who really have trouble with them or get sick. :\

Cedric Ambidexter.9174:

PopeUrban.2578:

GW1: WHY CAN WE NOT JUMP?

Arenanet adds jumping to GW2, and attaches gameplay to it so it’s actually more useful than the /jump emote

GW2: WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE HAVE TO JUMP?

Just because there’s a reward at the end doesn’t make it required content. You can safely ignore content you don’t find fun in GW2 are never going to suffer a stat penalty for doing so. If you don’t like the content, then learn to live without the rewards from it. You don’t NEED them in a mechanical sense. You just WANT them.

This is not true.

There are several story missions/fractals and other numerous activities which require the technique of jumping around and walking on very thin floor spaces. I’ve done some of them myself, without having a choice.

Again, you don’t need the rewards from that content. You WANT those rewards. In terms of “needs” to finish a character, you can easily buy everything from the TP without jumping even once.

In this case you want content designed in a certain way adjusted so that its a bit easier for you personally. Those sections are minor inconveniences the same way fighting dredge as a p/d thief is inconvenient. Part of playing a thing designed for a wide audience is that, occasionally, things aren’t designed specifically to cater to our personal sets of likes and dislikes.

It’d be a different story if that core content had massive and challenging jumping sections on par with, say, the steam geyser JP. If you don’t like uncategorized fractal, don’t do it.

At the end of the day its about whether you think the reward for a task is worth undertaking the task. There are a lot of things in this game I don’t want to do, and thus it follows I’ve determined the rewards don’t make up for my dislike of that particular content.

Cedric Ambidexter.9174:

Draknar.5748:

Have taken a huge break from GW2 forums because of things, started reading this thread because I love JPs and I was like “wait a second, I don’t remember saying these things”, realize now this is a huge necro thread, holy smokes!

Cedric, I don’t think you realize you can skip specific fractals now—which means you never have to worry about the oh, so complicated small jumps from one platform to the next in the harpy fractal.

Why should a player have to skip an entire fractal experience just because we are forced to jump to get around?

Why do you want to do a fractal specifically designed around jumping in the first place?

Your logic is backwards. You don’t have to skip it. You can, however, choose to skip it because you find the content not to your liking. Lots of people hate pvp, so they never step foot in pvp. They don’t have to skip pvp, and the resulting pvp locked skins. They choose to skip pvp because their dislike of the content is stronger than their desire for the reward.

That’s a completely fair system that caters to everyone equally.

PopeUrban.2578:

Cedric Ambidexter.9174:

PopeUrban.2578:

GW1: WHY CAN WE NOT JUMP?

Arenanet adds jumping to GW2, and attaches gameplay to it so it’s actually more useful than the /jump emote

GW2: WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE HAVE TO JUMP?

Just because there’s a reward at the end doesn’t make it required content. You can safely ignore content you don’t find fun in GW2 are never going to suffer a stat penalty for doing so. If you don’t like the content, then learn to live without the rewards from it. You don’t NEED them in a mechanical sense. You just WANT them.

This is not true.

There are several story missions/fractals and other numerous activities which require the technique of jumping around and walking on very thin floor spaces. I’ve done some of them myself, without having a choice.

Again, you don’t need the rewards from that content. You WANT those rewards. In terms of “needs” to finish a character, you can easily buy everything from the TP without jumping even once.

In this case you want content designed in a certain way adjusted so that its a bit easier for you personally. Those sections are minor inconveniences the same way fighting dredge as a p/d thief is inconvenient. Part of playing a thing designed for a wide audience is that, occasionally, things aren’t designed specifically to cater to our personal sets of likes and dislikes.

It’d be a different story if that core content had massive and challenging jumping sections on par with, say, the steam geyser JP. If you don’t like uncategorized fractal, don’t do it.

At the end of the day its about whether you think the reward for a task is worth undertaking the task. There are a lot of things in this game I don’t want to do, and thus it follows I’ve determined the rewards don’t make up for my dislike of that particular content.

I think you’re playing a different game, because we clearly don’t have the same experiences.

I’m not a fan of JP’s, but if you want map completion, you have to see all of the map right?

Cedric Ambidexter.9174:

PopeUrban.2578:

Cedric Ambidexter.9174:

PopeUrban.2578:

GW1: WHY CAN WE NOT JUMP?

Arenanet adds jumping to GW2, and attaches gameplay to it so it’s actually more useful than the /jump emote

GW2: WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE HAVE TO JUMP?

Just because there’s a reward at the end doesn’t make it required content. You can safely ignore content you don’t find fun in GW2 are never going to suffer a stat penalty for doing so. If you don’t like the content, then learn to live without the rewards from it. You don’t NEED them in a mechanical sense. You just WANT them.

This is not true.

There are several story missions/fractals and other numerous activities which require the technique of jumping around and walking on very thin floor spaces. I’ve done some of them myself, without having a choice.

Again, you don’t need the rewards from that content. You WANT those rewards. In terms of “needs” to finish a character, you can easily buy everything from the TP without jumping even once.

In this case you want content designed in a certain way adjusted so that its a bit easier for you personally. Those sections are minor inconveniences the same way fighting dredge as a p/d thief is inconvenient. Part of playing a thing designed for a wide audience is that, occasionally, things aren’t designed specifically to cater to our personal sets of likes and dislikes.

It’d be a different story if that core content had massive and challenging jumping sections on par with, say, the steam geyser JP. If you don’t like uncategorized fractal, don’t do it.

At the end of the day its about whether you think the reward for a task is worth undertaking the task. There are a lot of things in this game I don’t want to do, and thus it follows I’ve determined the rewards don’t make up for my dislike of that particular content.

I think you’re playing a different game, because we clearly don’t have the same experiences.

We have the exact same experiences, the difference is our lens on those experiences.

I enjoy the Jumping Puzzles.

There are very few required for map completion.

However, since so few of the do, it would probably be a positive change for them to just make it so that none of them are required for MC.

PopeUrban.2578:

Cedric Ambidexter.9174:

PopeUrban.2578:

Cedric Ambidexter.9174:

PopeUrban.2578:

GW1: WHY CAN WE NOT JUMP?

Arenanet adds jumping to GW2, and attaches gameplay to it so it’s actually more useful than the /jump emote

GW2: WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE HAVE TO JUMP?

Just because there’s a reward at the end doesn’t make it required content. You can safely ignore content you don’t find fun in GW2 are never going to suffer a stat penalty for doing so. If you don’t like the content, then learn to live without the rewards from it. You don’t NEED them in a mechanical sense. You just WANT them.

This is not true.

There are several story missions/fractals and other numerous activities which require the technique of jumping around and walking on very thin floor spaces. I’ve done some of them myself, without having a choice.

Again, you don’t need the rewards from that content. You WANT those rewards. In terms of “needs” to finish a character, you can easily buy everything from the TP without jumping even once.

In this case you want content designed in a certain way adjusted so that its a bit easier for you personally. Those sections are minor inconveniences the same way fighting dredge as a p/d thief is inconvenient. Part of playing a thing designed for a wide audience is that, occasionally, things aren’t designed specifically to cater to our personal sets of likes and dislikes.

It’d be a different story if that core content had massive and challenging jumping sections on par with, say, the steam geyser JP. If you don’t like uncategorized fractal, don’t do it.

At the end of the day its about whether you think the reward for a task is worth undertaking the task. There are a lot of things in this game I don’t want to do, and thus it follows I’ve determined the rewards don’t make up for my dislike of that particular content.

I think you’re playing a different game, because we clearly don’t have the same experiences.

We have the exact same experiences, the difference is our lens on those experiences.

No, because you’re making statements which aren’t true to my experience.

Cedric Ambidexter.9174:

PopeUrban.2578:

Cedric Ambidexter.9174:

PopeUrban.2578:

Cedric Ambidexter.9174:

PopeUrban.2578:

GW1: WHY CAN WE NOT JUMP?

Arenanet adds jumping to GW2, and attaches gameplay to it so it’s actually more useful than the /jump emote

GW2: WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE HAVE TO JUMP?

Just because there’s a reward at the end doesn’t make it required content. You can safely ignore content you don’t find fun in GW2 are never going to suffer a stat penalty for doing so. If you don’t like the content, then learn to live without the rewards from it. You don’t NEED them in a mechanical sense. You just WANT them.

This is not true.

There are several story missions/fractals and other numerous activities which require the technique of jumping around and walking on very thin floor spaces. I’ve done some of them myself, without having a choice.

Again, you don’t need the rewards from that content. You WANT those rewards. In terms of “needs” to finish a character, you can easily buy everything from the TP without jumping even once.

In this case you want content designed in a certain way adjusted so that its a bit easier for you personally. Those sections are minor inconveniences the same way fighting dredge as a p/d thief is inconvenient. Part of playing a thing designed for a wide audience is that, occasionally, things aren’t designed specifically to cater to our personal sets of likes and dislikes.

It’d be a different story if that core content had massive and challenging jumping sections on par with, say, the steam geyser JP. If you don’t like uncategorized fractal, don’t do it.

At the end of the day its about whether you think the reward for a task is worth undertaking the task. There are a lot of things in this game I don’t want to do, and thus it follows I’ve determined the rewards don’t make up for my dislike of that particular content.

I think you’re playing a different game, because we clearly don’t have the same experiences.

We have the exact same experiences, the difference is our lens on those experiences.

No, because you’re making statements which aren’t true to my experience.

Which ones?

PopeUrban.2578:

Cedric Ambidexter.9174:

PopeUrban.2578:

Cedric Ambidexter.9174:

PopeUrban.2578:

Cedric Ambidexter.9174:

PopeUrban.2578:

GW1: WHY CAN WE NOT JUMP?

Arenanet adds jumping to GW2, and attaches gameplay to it so it’s actually more useful than the /jump emote

GW2: WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE HAVE TO JUMP?

Just because there’s a reward at the end doesn’t make it required content. You can safely ignore content you don’t find fun in GW2 are never going to suffer a stat penalty for doing so. If you don’t like the content, then learn to live without the rewards from it. You don’t NEED them in a mechanical sense. You just WANT them.

This is not true.

There are several story missions/fractals and other numerous activities which require the technique of jumping around and walking on very thin floor spaces. I’ve done some of them myself, without having a choice.

Again, you don’t need the rewards from that content. You WANT those rewards. In terms of “needs” to finish a character, you can easily buy everything from the TP without jumping even once.

In this case you want content designed in a certain way adjusted so that its a bit easier for you personally. Those sections are minor inconveniences the same way fighting dredge as a p/d thief is inconvenient. Part of playing a thing designed for a wide audience is that, occasionally, things aren’t designed specifically to cater to our personal sets of likes and dislikes.

It’d be a different story if that core content had massive and challenging jumping sections on par with, say, the steam geyser JP. If you don’t like uncategorized fractal, don’t do it.

At the end of the day its about whether you think the reward for a task is worth undertaking the task. There are a lot of things in this game I don’t want to do, and thus it follows I’ve determined the rewards don’t make up for my dislike of that particular content.

I think you’re playing a different game, because we clearly don’t have the same experiences.

We have the exact same experiences, the difference is our lens on those experiences.

No, because you’re making statements which aren’t true to my experience.

Which ones?

About the puzzles being optional in all cases. That’s not true.

Cedric Ambidexter.9174:

PopeUrban.2578:

Cedric Ambidexter.9174:

PopeUrban.2578:

Cedric Ambidexter.9174:

PopeUrban.2578:

Cedric Ambidexter.9174:

PopeUrban.2578:

GW1: WHY CAN WE NOT JUMP?

Arenanet adds jumping to GW2, and attaches gameplay to it so it’s actually more useful than the /jump emote

GW2: WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE HAVE TO JUMP?

Just because there’s a reward at the end doesn’t make it required content. You can safely ignore content you don’t find fun in GW2 are never going to suffer a stat penalty for doing so. If you don’t like the content, then learn to live without the rewards from it. You don’t NEED them in a mechanical sense. You just WANT them.

This is not true.

There are several story missions/fractals and other numerous activities which require the technique of jumping around and walking on very thin floor spaces. I’ve done some of them myself, without having a choice.

Again, you don’t need the rewards from that content. You WANT those rewards. In terms of “needs” to finish a character, you can easily buy everything from the TP without jumping even once.

In this case you want content designed in a certain way adjusted so that its a bit easier for you personally. Those sections are minor inconveniences the same way fighting dredge as a p/d thief is inconvenient. Part of playing a thing designed for a wide audience is that, occasionally, things aren’t designed specifically to cater to our personal sets of likes and dislikes.

It’d be a different story if that core content had massive and challenging jumping sections on par with, say, the steam geyser JP. If you don’t like uncategorized fractal, don’t do it.

At the end of the day its about whether you think the reward for a task is worth undertaking the task. There are a lot of things in this game I don’t want to do, and thus it follows I’ve determined the rewards don’t make up for my dislike of that particular content.

I think you’re playing a different game, because we clearly don’t have the same experiences.

We have the exact same experiences, the difference is our lens on those experiences.

No, because you’re making statements which aren’t true to my experience.

Which ones?

About the puzzles being optional in all cases. That’s not true.

Where have you encountered a puzzle that you’re required to complete to progress your character? I can’t think of one.

You need to do a few light jumping sections to finish certain optional paths in the PS (if you pick certain story steps. you can finish a complete PS without doing any such sections) and a couple for map completion, but neither of these activites is required to reach the exact same mechanical power as every other character in the game.

What those sections prevent you from achieving is skins and titles.

My ping and coordination killed jump puzzles fun for me, i like the idea but the implementation is horrible.. to the point its not fun its now tedious after you fall 25 times..

There is a Vista in a cave at Straights of Devastation thats a forced jumping puzzle as well, tree roots etc and ranger pets in there.. you fall and die a lot.

I looove jumping puzzles, it’s one of the things that make GW2 great to me.
I love exploring around, and trying to finish JPs without help is awesome. I really hope they keep on doing them
I don’t care if for vistas or other things they move them so it’s not obligatory

Please accept my application for membership.
It’s odd. I actually really enjoy the SAB through world 2 zone 1. Then it gets much harder and success fades away. Must be why I’ve had like 95% of the world JP’s done in 2012 and like none since.

Where do i sign up?

OtterPaws.2036:

Where do i sign up?

Jumping must be difficult with otter paws. I feel for you.

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