Guild Wars 2

Why is it that before I could finish a daily every morning before going to work just by leveling my character. Today I log in and see 2 of the options are Silver Wastes and Fractals; so much for ‘play how you want’; I guess if you are not lvl 80 you’re SOL because obviously I can’t run Fractals or Silver Wastes.

Thanks for nothing ANet.

But you can still level your character, since daily rewards often include account bound experience. You can do the daily on anyone and just put the experience in your chest for the character you’re leveling.

Anyway, two of the dailies your lowbie could do.

So if your lowbie did the vista, and the gathering, both of which he could do, he could then go into WvW and buy with badges pretty much anything to get the third daily, without PvPing at all.

In fact, I did today’s daily on a lowbie.

Play how you want doesn’t mean do anything get everything. And even if you went into wvw you’re automatically bumped to lvl 80; find a group and roll with’m for 20minutes; there’s always tags rumbling around or regular pvp again automatically bumps you to lvl 80. This new daily change is a great change and will take getting used to; not many people like change and having to adjust but this change is good and it rewards better than the previous daily rewards ever did. And if you focus on one character and map completion and then running dungeons as much as you can once they’re available it only takes about 20 hours of game-play to hit 80 if that. Dailies should have been a scavenger hunt from the beginning. And every day they change.

Vayne.8563:

But you can still level your character, since daily rewards often include account bound experience. You can do the daily on anyone and just put the experience in your chest for the character you’re leveling.

Anyway, two of the dailies your lowbie could do.

So if your lowbie did the vista, and the gathering, both of which he could do, he could then go into WvW and buy with badges pretty much anything to get the third daily, without PvPing at all.

In fact, I did today’s daily on a lowbie.

Your missing the point of the op there are people who have low level characters for instance the new players who dont have lvl 80 characters to run into those zones. Its not about the exp per se but the small daily pool for newbies in the pve environment they are now forced to go to pvp or wvw to try get their dailys

Actually, the ‘newbie’ won’t even see those Daily ‘tasks/requirements’. So, they won’t have anything to feel bad about missing. =)

Accounts that have higher level characters will see those options, but then they have characters that can complete those tasks, as well.

I have to agree with you OP. There’s not enough options for the PVE only player or newbies. Once again Anet has fixed the unbroken.

Many of the PVE options have been awful. I don’t like to be forced into silver wastes either and all my toons are 80. Its a laggy mess. What ever happened to play your way?

BlkPrince.2854:

Vayne.8563:

But you can still level your character, since daily rewards often include account bound experience. You can do the daily on anyone and just put the experience in your chest for the character you’re leveling.

Anyway, two of the dailies your lowbie could do.

So if your lowbie did the vista, and the gathering, both of which he could do, he could then go into WvW and buy with badges pretty much anything to get the third daily, without PvPing at all.

In fact, I did today’s daily on a lowbie.

Your missing the point of the op there are people who have low level characters for instance the new players who dont have lvl 80 characters to run into those zones. Its not about the exp per se but the small daily pool for newbies in the pve environment they are now forced to go to pvp or wvw to try get their dailys

Lowbie characters get different dailies. I know this for a fact. I’m looking right now at a new account with a 41 level character as the max character. These are the dailies for PvE.

Daily Ascalon Vista Viewer
Daily Queensdale Event Completer
Daily Kryta Lumberer
Daily Great Jungle Wurm

Even as a lvl80 It’s still not comfortable enough. I dislike Silverwastes and Fractals are pretty much non existant to me. Had to turn in 25 WvW Badges to fill the 3rd spot, which isn’t something I was keen to waste.

Not that I care about AP’s but with the old daily, I could get 6-8 AP’s a day without being forced into doing things I don’t like.

EDIT: It’s not about AP’s for me, but freedom, which has been taken away.

Pretty cool that lowbie accounts get different dailies.

Do people complain now without even reading the patch notes? This was explained that dailies get different depending on the max level on the account.

i dont understand

since when anet is forcing you to play other game modes, no one is forcing you to do the dailies in the first place. is it a must to do daily? NO.

if u wan the reward or ap, then do it, if u dunwan them, then dont do it. is a matter of choice. doing them or not doing them will not affect your chance to get ur laurel either, since laurel is not part of the daily task but daily logon task

a·chieve·ment
noun
1. a thing done successfully, typically by effort, courage, or skill.
“to reach this stage is a great achievement”

HyruleanHyroe.1473:

a·chieve·ment
noun
1. a thing done successfully, typically by effort, courage, or skill.
“to reach this stage is a great achievement”

What has this to do with the current dailies?

Astralporing.1957:

What has this to do with the current dailies?

Just a friendly reminder regarding achievements in general.

For those that haven’t bothered to read the patch note on the dailies:

NEW FEATURES AND CONTENT
New Daily Achievement System

Achievements have been divided into 3 categories: PvE, WvW, and PvP.
The number of available achievements per day is based on the highest-level character on an account:
Levels 1 – 10: 1 achievement per category
Levels 11 – 30: 3 achievements per category
Levels 31 – 80: 4 achievements per category
Completing daily achievements now awards players with items and/or experience based on their corresponding content type, such as WvW daily achievements rewarding world experience.
Completing daily achievements no longer awards players with achievement points.
A new Daily Completionist achievement has been added and is earned by completing any combination of daily achievements from the three categories.
Completing the Daily Completionist achievement rewards players with 10 achievement points.
December will be the final month to include monthly achievements.
Existing daily and monthly achievement rewards have been rolled into the new log-in reward system.

Reread the patch notes.

You did in fact get your daily done that morning before work, just by logging in. That reward chest that popped up is the same as your old daily, and gives mystic coins, laurels, xp books, and other stuff. Its just a different name, and its also a lot easier as you have to do absolutely nothing but log in.

What is now called dailies is a new type of reward that you dont need to do at all (unless your a serious AP hunter, but if you are then you should have enough 80’s to do them).

Also, to clear up some more misinformation, I just checked on a level 10 toon I have on a spare account. Queensdale event completer, kryta lumberer, and ascalon vista viewer. Which would take about 10 minutes, and is more than doable on a low level.

You can still play how you want, dailies aren’t required.

I don’t know why the white knights always rush in to defend the game on every issue. Often times with stupidity like, the daily is optional or so don’t do it. He wants to do it.

Honestly the old system gave you options, while this one forces your hand. I generally avoid vistas and siverwastes, yet I had to do it. Doable for me, but he’s underlevel. Yeah I did it, but I didn’t enjoy it. I liked the old dailies.

Solution, Throw a few of the old options into the mix. Choice is good.

Vayne.8563:

BlkPrince.2854:

Vayne.8563:

But you can still level your character, since daily rewards often include account bound experience. You can do the daily on anyone and just put the experience in your chest for the character you’re leveling.

Anyway, two of the dailies your lowbie could do.

So if your lowbie did the vista, and the gathering, both of which he could do, he could then go into WvW and buy with badges pretty much anything to get the third daily, without PvPing at all.

In fact, I did today’s daily on a lowbie.

Your missing the point of the op there are people who have low level characters for instance the new players who dont have lvl 80 characters to run into those zones. Its not about the exp per se but the small daily pool for newbies in the pve environment they are now forced to go to pvp or wvw to try get their dailys

Lowbie characters get different dailies. I know this for a fact. I’m looking right now at a new account with a 41 level character as the max character. These are the dailies for PvE.

Daily Ascalon Vista Viewer
Daily Queensdale Event Completer
Daily Kryta Lumberer
Daily Great Jungle Wurm

You have different dailies than me then.
The only things I could do on my lowbie are Ascalon Vista thing and the lumberer. The 3. PVE daily is Silverwastes Event completion and Fractals lvl 11-20. Eversything else is kittenty WvW and PVP, both gamemodes Im not playing and wont start doing it.
Pre Patch it was possible to get your daily by simply roaming around with your character. Now they are forcing you to play things which they want to be promoted.

If I agree with the fact that, there is just not enough option. Ppl complain on both side. Those doing level 50 fractal hate to do a level 11-20 and low level hate that there is content only for level 80.

But you are not forced into this content. Its only AP guys. If you really want AP, then go for it, if its not worth the effort for you don’t. Daily was a must before because of Laurels et other reward, but all of that is in the log-in reward now.

Before the update, 70-80% of the daily achievements were PvE.Now that every category (PvE,WvW and PvP) has the same amount of achievements to complete i see a LOT of PvE people crying.

Before the change PVP and WvW players had 2(or 3) achievements each,meaning they had to do 3(or 2) PVE achievements to complete their daily.I don’t see other people crying,even tho 2 of the PvP achievements are class specific.So if they don’t even own those two classes they can go into PvE and finish their daily there.

Just by taking a look at todays PvP achievements ,it is clear to me that anyone can complete at least 2 of them.You get 50 rank points even if you lose a match,and anyone should be able to capture a point.
Refusing to try out new things,or not wanting to step outside your comfort zone does NOT mean that you have no choices.

People who PvP or WvW learned to adjust a long time ago.If they wanted to finish their daily,they had to do some PvE achievements as well.

It’s called ‘’Daily achievement’’ after all and not ‘’Daily run around the game and get free presents for everything you do ’’.

And what a lot of people seem to have missed is that the Daily has gotten ’’optional’’.You won’t lose out on Laurels or Myst. Coins if you don’t complete it.Just some exp and the 10 achievement points.

ArmoredVehicle.2849:

EDIT: It’s not about AP’s for me, but freedom, which has been taken away.

Well then, you’re in luck! Because the only thing you get for doing those dailies is AP, plus the small task specific reward.

The rest of the rewards you get for just logging in.

Nimarrna.5924:

Before the change PVP and WvW players had 2(or 3) achievements each,meaning they had to do 3(or 2) PVE achievements to complete their daily.I don’t see other people crying,even tho 2 of the PvP achievements are class specific.So if they don’t even own those two classes they can go into PvE and finish their daily there.

While there were only 2 PvP or WvW specific dailies, this is a bit disingenuous. Many of the old dailies could be completed in any format. For example, dodges, interrupts, kills, even revives could all be done in PvP, and of course WvW.

I do find it funny that the people who are complaining often seem to state that they don’t care about AP, when AP is now the only reason to do them.

The problem with using the max level character on the account to determine the level of dailies is, people often use dailies to level their low-level alts. And in fact, dailies award a lot of experience(as an actual drop) now. So it looks like Anet kinda thought this through, but not completely.
So yeah, dailies now exclude non-80’s and yeah, this is a problem.
And I just don’t see why dailies have to be so specific. Why not Kyrta Events , instead of Queensdale events. Why not “World Boss” instead of “Shatterer”? etc…

Fractals aren’t exclusive to 80s; I did low ones @ 60s and to little trouble.

SHM.7628:

I don’t know why the white knights always rush in to defend the game on every issue. Often times with stupidity like, the daily is optional or so don’t do it. He wants to do it.

Honestly the old system gave you options, while this one forces your hand. I generally avoid vistas and siverwastes, yet I had to do it. Doable for me, but he’s underlevel. Yeah I did it, but I didn’t enjoy it. I liked the old dailies.

Solution, Throw a few of the old options into the mix. Choice is good.

being rational and reasonable is different from being white knight who defend for the sake of defending regardless is it right or wrong

one should put efforts to obtain the achievement and not the other way round. if ppl are complaining because achievement seems too difficult for them to do, then, too bad, achievement shouldnt be easy to do to begin with

if ppl are complaining that now it is much easier to get 10 ap compare to last time, that is legit complain

unfortunately to the complainers who complain becoz of the lack of choices and becoz of the lack of chocie, u cant get them done easily….
i like this daily achievements more

back to TS question, no, daily is according to the levels, logon a different level and u will see a different daily if any of the daily is not completable due to their lvl

SHM.7628:

Often times with stupidity like, the daily is optional or so don’t do it. He wants to do it.

You obviously don’t understand the difference between “wanting something” and “wanting something badly enough to actually get it even if you don’t like what you have to do.”

Life is about opportunity costs, and you have to know whether or not something is worth your time. If it’s not worth your time, don’t do it, and don’t kitten about the fact that you’re not doing it.

Schwarzseher.9873:

Vayne.8563:

BlkPrince.2854:

Vayne.8563:

But you can still level your character, since daily rewards often include account bound experience. You can do the daily on anyone and just put the experience in your chest for the character you’re leveling.

Anyway, two of the dailies your lowbie could do.

So if your lowbie did the vista, and the gathering, both of which he could do, he could then go into WvW and buy with badges pretty much anything to get the third daily, without PvPing at all.

In fact, I did today’s daily on a lowbie.

Your missing the point of the op there are people who have low level characters for instance the new players who dont have lvl 80 characters to run into those zones. Its not about the exp per se but the small daily pool for newbies in the pve environment they are now forced to go to pvp or wvw to try get their dailys

Lowbie characters get different dailies. I know this for a fact. I’m looking right now at a new account with a 41 level character as the max character. These are the dailies for PvE.

Daily Ascalon Vista Viewer
Daily Queensdale Event Completer
Daily Kryta Lumberer
Daily Great Jungle Wurm

You have different dailies than me then.
The only things I could do on my lowbie are Ascalon Vista thing and the lumberer. The 3. PVE daily is Silverwastes Event completion and Fractals lvl 11-20. Eversything else is kittenty WvW and PVP, both gamemodes Im not playing and wont start doing it.
Pre Patch it was possible to get your daily by simply roaming around with your character. Now they are forcing you to play things which they want to be promoted.

It’s based on the highest level character you have.

If you have a level 80 character, then you get dailies based on that level 80 character.

Vayne posted a screenshot from an account with the highest level character being level 41.

ArchonWing.9480:

Fractals aren’t exclusive to 80s; I did low ones @ 60s and to little trouble.

Scale 11-20 fractals are pretty exclusive to level 80s. While theoretically a character below level 80 can still participate while uplevelled, none of his equipment (barring perhaps crafted level 78 backpacks) will have slots for Agony Resistance, meaning that certain attacks of every boss and occasional environmental effects will tick 10% of his max health off per second while also negating his healing effects for its duration. For a character with the appropriate level of Agony Resistance, they’d only take 1% of their max health from Agony.

A lower level player could be carried through fractals despite low Agony Resistance, and if he’s really good at dodging he could avoid most instances of Agony (each final boss has unavoidable Agony right at the start of the encounter). I would assume that most players being referenced to here aren’t being carried by level 80s, though.

Regarding wasting badges, if you hang out in EoTM, they fall in your lap. I currently have 16,689 badges of honor, mostly from EoTM. That’s not that remarkable. Many people have a great deal more than I do.

Also, for WvW achievments, EoTM is more forgiving that regular WvW.

Xiahou Mao.9701:

ArchonWing.9480:

Fractals aren’t exclusive to 80s; I did low ones @ 60s and to little trouble.

Scale 11-20 fractals are pretty exclusive to level 80s. While theoretically a character below level 80 can still participate while uplevelled, none of his equipment (barring perhaps crafted level 78 backpacks) will have slots for Agony Resistance, meaning that certain attacks of every boss and occasional environmental effects will tick 10% of his max health off per second while also negating his healing effects for its duration. For a character with the appropriate level of Agony Resistance, they’d only take 1% of their max health from Agony.

A lower level player could be carried through fractals despite low Agony Resistance, and if he’s really good at dodging he could avoid most instances of Agony (each final boss has unavoidable Agony right at the start of the encounter). I would assume that most players being referenced to here aren’t being carried by level 80s, though.

I have done level 19 or even 20 fractals with people with 0 AR many times. It’s not that big a deal.

Xiahou Mao.9701:

ArchonWing.9480:

Fractals aren’t exclusive to 80s; I did low ones @ 60s and to little trouble.

Scale 11-20 fractals are pretty exclusive to level 80s. While theoretically a character below level 80 can still participate while uplevelled, none of his equipment (barring perhaps crafted level 78 backpacks) will have slots for Agony Resistance, meaning that certain attacks of every boss and occasional environmental effects will tick 10% of his max health off per second while also negating his healing effects for its duration. For a character with the appropriate level of Agony Resistance, they’d only take 1% of their max health from Agony.

A lower level player could be carried through fractals despite low Agony Resistance, and if he’s really good at dodging he could avoid most instances of Agony (each final boss has unavoidable Agony right at the start of the encounter). I would assume that most players being referenced to here aren’t being carried by level 80s, though.

I admit, I suddenly forgot about the specific “11-20” part. I’m not sure why it’s so specific.

I don’t find anything in the patch notes about there being different tasks in the Dailies for lower level Characters.

Only that there are less tasks shown (and thus, available) for the 3 different tiers.

The number of available achievements per day is based on the highest-level character on an account:

Levels 1 – 10: 1 achievement per category
Levels 11 – 30: 3 achievements per category
Levels 31 – 80: 4 achievements per category

But…perhaps, they left that information out of the Patch Notes.

Vayne.8563:

BlkPrince.2854:

Vayne.8563:

But you can still level your character, since daily rewards often include account bound experience. You can do the daily on anyone and just put the experience in your chest for the character you’re leveling.

Anyway, two of the dailies your lowbie could do.

So if your lowbie did the vista, and the gathering, both of which he could do, he could then go into WvW and buy with badges pretty much anything to get the third daily, without PvPing at all.

In fact, I did today’s daily on a lowbie.

Your missing the point of the op there are people who have low level characters for instance the new players who dont have lvl 80 characters to run into those zones. Its not about the exp per se but the small daily pool for newbies in the pve environment they are now forced to go to pvp or wvw to try get their dailys

Lowbie characters get different dailies. I know this for a fact. I’m looking right now at a new account with a 41 level character as the max character. These are the dailies for PvE.

Daily Ascalon Vista Viewer
Daily Queensdale Event Completer
Daily Kryta Lumberer
Daily Great Jungle Wurm

Those where the post patch, before reset, daily PvE choices. Today included a 11-20 fractal and Silverwastes.

maybe an idea, display ALL dailies instead of forcing only the dailies according to your level.
i decide what i want to do, just because the character is a max level doesn’t mean i like to do max level stuff, that’s for me to decide.