Guild Wars 2

Horrorscope.7632:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Horrorscope.7632:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Now, before you start asking why there’s so many Jugs, remember there was once a time when there were ample complaints about the cost of the Temple Exotic gear which cost . . . 42,000 Karma a piece. The response to that was to make Jugs of Liquid Karma drop from the Daily (giving 4500 Karma each) meaning you could gear up Exotic armor in roughly eight to ten days.

I get your point, but your math is off. I assume gear up means all gear.

You can’t buy Exotic trinkets/weapons with Karma so really? It’s just armor I am referring to. So I wasn’t 100% clear, my apologies.

That to, but doing math 42000 per piece 4500 for jug that is 8-10 for one piece. Then you ‘x’ that by number of pieces, no? Why I caught it I was thinking, wow really that is all I was doing for full exotic armor was 8-10 days? Seemed like a lot more. You need around 250K’s worth of Karma. No big.

(-checks-) Yes. Yes I did leave out those two words “per piece” and my brain kept inserting them as I double-checked. This is why you don’t do proofreading on your mobile device, ladies and gentlemen. (And charr.)

A little over one month then, including the Monthly, should be enough. And that also includes karma from doing events or other activities.

Emissary Vex.5690:

Point one – Dailys are optional

Ok thank you everyone for stating something so obvious that it hurts. You mean Anet doesn’t have a gun to our heads forcing us to do dailys? Who knew. Now lets just pretend for a second that we WANT the laurels but we don’t want to do the daily. This has nothing to do with being entitled or lazy. We WANT to do the harder content in the game, dungeons, etc; which after doing only contributes to 1/5 or LESS of the daily.

Point of note, you don’t want the Laurels themselves. They’re pointless on their own. What you want is what you get with Laurels, of which there are exactly one thing exclusive to Laurels which currently can be possibly, potentially, and by a stretch . . . considered “necessary”.

I’m talking of course about the cat tonic.

. . . no of course I’m not. Right now Laurels (30) are required for Ascended amulets. These are the only thing you can’t get another way right now and they represent either 30 days of Daily, or 20 days of Daily and the Monthly. Note well, this month is one you can knock out mostly without stepping out of WvW. Like 80% of the way.

I admit to not being sure if the Daily PvP achievements count for the “Monthly Completionist”.

Either way, do you want the amulet? Or easier access to rings without going into Fractals? Or the minis and cat tonic? You don’t want Laurels just for hoarding Laurels. You want them for something, and there’s a very limited slice of what’s being offered which is useful and only available there.

Point two – Dailys are easy and you complete them just when ignoring them

So this so obscenely ignorant it hurts. You only complete them if you are the kind of person who does nothing but overland content. Try doing nothing but a dungeon and tell me how far you got along in your daily

I really do not know how someone would do nothing but dungeons and consider that a balanced state of play. PvP or WvW I can understand, but restricted that far? “I only ever run dungeons” is literally saying “I only play one part of the game”. I find it difficult to agree you should be cut slack for effort when you throw away 90% of the game. No matter how difficult that last 10% is.

I mean, gods forbid I tell you how to play but . . . wow. That’s . . . that’s a degree of specialized play which makes me really scratch my head.

My point

The problem is that people who want to enjoy harder group content AKA dungeons are being punished because they cannot get dailys without simply playing longer and doing easier solo content they dont want to do.

Punished? Why do people keep using that word. You’re being punished if you’re temporarily banned. You’re being punished if your guild drops you for acting up. You’re being punished if you are being written a speeding ticket. You are not being punished for, in essence, skipping 90% of the game.

This seriously is not about the Daily requirements. This is about the players who don’t want to do the Daily complaining they don’t get the same rewards as other players who do them. And there is exactly one thing to do to fix that.

Let that cat tonic drop out of a chest in Gendarran Fields. Everyone needs to be able to earn it, not just people who do the Daily religiously.

Emissary Vex.5690:

Ok so there are two arguments.

Point one – Dailys are optional

Ok thank you everyone for stating something so obvious that it hurts. You mean Anet doesn’t have a gun to our heads forcing us to do dailys? Who knew. Now lets just pretend for a second that we WANT the laurels but we don’t want to do the daily. This has nothing to do with being entitled or lazy. We WANT to do the harder content in the game, dungeons, etc; which after doing only contributes to 1/5 or LESS of the daily.

Point two – Dailys are easy and you complete them just when ignoring them

So this so obscenely ignorant it hurts. You only complete them if you are the kind of person who does nothing but overland content. Try doing nothing but a dungeon and tell me how far you got along in your daily

My point

I have nothing agaisnt laurels or ascended gear being easy to get via solo content for most players. The problem is that people who want to enjoy harder group content AKA dungeons are being punished because they cannot get dailys without simply playing longer and doing easier solo content they dont want to do. From the people arguing to keep dailys exactly the same easy solo way for everyone dailys take upwards of 45mis to an hour. Now we have idiots saying that is barely anything stop whining. They are completely ignoring the fact that we arent even whining about it taking that long; the problem is that it takes that long on-top of the other content some people actually want to use, like dungeons.

Now how does wanting to be able to get laurels from harder content lazy and self entitled? Everyone keeps pretending like someone is arguing the laurels should free and effortless, such arguments are completely ignorant.

Game systems always put rewards in different places. GW2 is somewhat ahead of other games in that regard. At one point in Rift, BiS weapons were available only in PvP. You prefer to get them through raids? Sorry. That was fixed — eventually.

When Ascended first appeared, the only way to get it was in FotM. Promises were made about making the items available via other means. That’s still in process. Dungeon runners had two and a half months where their play-style choice allowed access to BiS that no other play-style could access. Now, maybe amulets will be made available via different play-styles going forwards. Maybe in 2-3 months. Maybe sooner, maybe never. In the meantime, if you have to have a BiS amulet now, you’ll have to do what non-dungeon runners had to do in November to get rings. You’ll have to do something you prefer not to do.

Still talking about something that took me an hour to do TWO sets of dailies for me (and most) today huh? All the while I was just leveling and/or having fun

/me kicks a chicken

Gestankfaust.4216:

Still talking about something that took me an hour to do TWO sets of dailies for me (and most) today huh? All the while I was just leveling and/or having fun

/me kicks a chicken

I’ve been replying here between work, sleep, work, dailies, helping guildmates reach Arah Story, some jumping puzzles, and now sleep.

It took me the longest to do today’s daily but only because I kept trying to join guildmates in doing things only to arrive too late to take Tequatl once and the second time it was almost too late. I also spent some time checking out some things for my own personal curiosity. I also stopped to help a couple people out with things, which is why I had three “almost finished” tracks before it finally finished on “Maguuma Slayer” . . .

I could, in the next couple days, take a painstaking record of just how long it takes me to do the Daily and where my time is spent. But as it’s been said here numerous times – the time spent has never really been the issue. It’s been that some people would rather not be asked to play more of the game than they want to. Which is perfectly valid . . . I know if they wanted a sPvP win with no way around it I’d tell them to go jump.

But I pointed out earlier . . . if you’re limiting yourself to only one part of this game and discounting 90% of it, I have to wonder why you absolutely will never touch it if you can get what you want from it. This isn’t some “Saw”-like sadistic choice, here.

I think the dailies are very good as they are right now. Some nice additions, complete 5 out of 9, what’s not to like?

yup, fine as it is now…. don’t be lazy people… earn your laurel…..

If you do a few dungeons you will have following dailies done on 5.03.2013:
- ascalonian events for AC
- maguuma slayer for TA
- aquatic slayer for FotM or HotW
- skill point (3 runs required though)
- group event completer

Depending on your choice of dungeon, you will have 3 or 4 done. So take your pick:
- visit the laurel vendor OMG impossible I hate walking
- craft in the mystic forge OMG I don’t want to gamble 20 vendor trash worth 20 copper in order to gain 5s and a laurel
- gather OMG I don’t want to earn money in order to earn money

Yes I see how it’s completely impossible to do the daily with dungeons …