Guild Wars 2

While although I can’t locate it, some several months ago an arena-net member posted that Carrion would be added in the ‘next round of ascended’.

(For those of you who don’t know, Carrion is Primary: Condition, Secondary: Power, Vitality)

Well, here we several months down the road, and many many months from the initial release of ascended gear, and yet still no carrion gear.

This is quite a large dissapointment. It would take no more than 10 minutes of development time to add these to the game. I don’t even care if they use an existing icon, just throw out some gear in the already existing format with those stats.

From my understanding when I started this game we are allowed to play ‘how we want’. However, if I want to play my condition damage-based thief, I get shafted in gear because Arenanet takes 6 months to release an item set that would take 10 minutes to make.

I have over 125 laurels just waiting to be spent yet they haven’t been in anticipation of this update. If Arenanet does not want these stats to be available to players, at least please give me a confirmation of this so I can respec altogether and get new gear, because at this point it is getting ridiculous.

I agree. Not only that but conditions are STILL not fixed.

Will people STOP THROWING AROUND THE WORD ‘PROMISE’. Please? They just said ‘we will have all the stat combos’. Its not a marriage agreement. Its not a binding contract. Its a conversation.

In this case its almost certainly a bug. One of about 420 introduced in this patch (a.k.a. about par for the course). Report it in the bug forums and give them a day or two to fix it.

Nike.2631:

Will people STOP THROWING AROUND THE WORD ‘PROMISE’. Please? They just said ‘we will have all the stat combos’. Its not a marriage agreement. Its not a binding contract. Its a conversation.

In this case its almost certainly a bug. One of about 420 introduced in this patch (a.k.a. about par for the course). Report it in the bug forums and give them a day or two to fix it.

Not only this, but I don’t seem to recall them giving an actual time frame for WHEN they’d be adding it. Don’t jump to conclusions.

Nike.2631:

Will people STOP THROWING AROUND THE WORD ‘PROMISE’. Please? They just said ‘we will have all the stat combos’. Its not a marriage agreement. Its not a binding contract. Its a conversation.

In this case its almost certainly a bug. One of about 420 introduced in this patch (a.k.a. about par for the course). Report it in the bug forums and give them a day or two to fix it.

How is this a bug? It hasn’t even been implemented into the game. If it were a bug I’d imagine Ascended items titled “Carrion” would be available in game but have the wrong stats.

Because leaving out an item on a list is a bug? Rather than a conspiracy, a plot, an arch-betray, or a broken promise.

It’s a goof, not a deliberate assault on the sensibilities of the player base. Let them know they goofed via proper channels and sit tight for a hot fix.

I might be mistaken but I am almost completely sure that Carrion is available from the new weapons.

I too would very much like to see Ascended accessories with Carrion stats. It’s hard to believe it’s just an oversight at this point, but I can’t see any reason why they wouldn’t add this stat combination.

The “next round of ascended” may as well be the introduction of ascended weapons, and in that case they didn’t break any promises, all you gotta do is look for Occam items to see that they have Carrion stats.

They did indeed add it to the weapons, this makes it even more unlikely that they do not want the player base to have access to these stats. But then, why do the trinkets still not exist?

I’m glad you realize that there are in fact Ascended weapons with carrion stats. That would make your title misleading at best and inaccurate at worst. As for adding trinkets, there’s no reason why they won’t at some point. It’s probably not very high on their list of priorities.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Missing-Ascended-Stats-Bug-or-Intentional

6 months ago, still waiting. I would love ascended valkyrie jewlery.

I can’t really say I understand the argumentative nature of some of these responses of this thread. Picking apart semantics of the title, etc.

As just posted by Eredeliel, the Dev stated that they would be sure to have Carrion and Valkyrie added in the next batch of Ascended — referring to the trinkets and amulets as that was all we had at the time of the discussion well over 6 months ago.

Having these stats added to the ascended trinket list would be only beneficial to the players and I fail to see why one would argue against or dismiss it.

Just bumping to avoid creating a redundant topic…

Do we STILL not have these? I am sick of sitting on laurels to buy something we honestly should have had over half a year ago.

I have watched the Devs suggest they will get to this for over 6 months now.

As of a month ago I stopped playing (and spending) until Carrion ascended is implemented.

I check about once a week and don’t even bother with dailies anymore because my 160 laurels saved just to fit out my main is enough. As i have written politely on many previous threads……..

PLEASE ADD CARRION ASCENDED………PLEASE.

Ehh to be honest as a condition thief ascended apothecary or dire/rabid stats should be good! I use exotic settlers too, the healing power is really nice with all the stealth/SoM regeneration.

Still no Magi either..

I was really surprised when I went looking for these for a new setup and they were nowhere to be found. Maybe they are waiting for ascended jewelcrafting and then make those exclusive to that? I mean… there would be no way of them not putting them in at that point. >.<

I just got one the other day. Power, vit, condi dmg.

Think it was called the " oculus chest". I forget the name of the chest exactly but I have the staff. It’s black and orange and looks amazing. I can add kitten when I get home if u want to see proof and see how it looks?

ArenaNet’s promises don’t mean anything like they used to back in the days of GW1.

They proved this when the game took a completely opposite direction from the Manifesto.

God Of Fissures.8627:

ArenaNet’s promises don’t mean anything like they used to back in the days of GW1.

They proved this when the game took a completely opposite direction from the Manifesto.

You mean you counted every line the manifesto and every line is a 180 degree turn around? Or you interpreted one line in one possible way and that one line is a 180 degree turnaround?

Because there’s at least 50 lines in the manifesto that are still true, I’d think. Particularly when you actually pay attention to Anet’s clarification of it, which was released 3 days after the manifesto.

As long as people keeping bringing up the manifesto to try to make a point, I’ll keep point out that the other side of the story.

Vayne.8563:

God Of Fissures.8627:

ArenaNet’s promises don’t mean anything like they used to back in the days of GW1.

They proved this when the game took a completely opposite direction from the Manifesto.

You mean you counted every line the manifesto and every line is a 180 degree turn around? Or you interpreted one line in one possible way and that one line is a 180 degree turnaround?

Because there’s at least 50 lines in the manifesto that are still true, I’d think. Particularly when you actually pay attention to Anet’s clarification of it, which was released 3 days after the manifesto.

As long as people keeping bringing up the manifesto to try to make a point, I’ll keep point out that the other side of the story.

You can do that all you want. This is not the game that the developers described in the Manifesto.

Why are you guys being so polite about this?

In a game where builds are directly tied to armor stats, not having crucial stat combos on the end-game gear is a colossal kitten-up.

Straight out incompetence.

Thrumdi.9216:

Straight out incompetence.

Well, when it comes to anet it could easily be turned into the “you don’t say” meme when people bring up their incompetence.

Thrumdi.9216:

Why are you guys being so polite about this?

In a game where builds are directly tied to armor stats, not having crucial stat combos on the end-game gear is a colossal kitten-up.

Straight out incompetence.

I agree wholeheartedly. Incompetence is something ArenaNet has gotten very competent at since focusing solely on Gem Store sales.

God Of Fissures.8627:

Vayne.8563:

God Of Fissures.8627:

ArenaNet’s promises don’t mean anything like they used to back in the days of GW1.

They proved this when the game took a completely opposite direction from the Manifesto.

You mean you counted every line the manifesto and every line is a 180 degree turn around? Or you interpreted one line in one possible way and that one line is a 180 degree turnaround?

Because there’s at least 50 lines in the manifesto that are still true, I’d think. Particularly when you actually pay attention to Anet’s clarification of it, which was released 3 days after the manifesto.

As long as people keeping bringing up the manifesto to try to make a point, I’ll keep point out that the other side of the story.

You can do that all you want. This is not the game that the developers described in the Manifesto.

Shrugs. Most of the manifesto, the largest part of it, remains true.

This dead horse needs beating.

Bump for question – now that dire is in the game is this an indication that there wont be any carrion. I am still waiting to buy ascended gear for my thief and don’t wanty to waste my laurels.

Animalmom at the worst you’ll be able to craft it when they come out with ascended jewelcrafting (via chrysocolla). It’ll be in the game eventually.

11-15-2012 – Ascended Gear introduced.

2-26-2013 – 5 more Ascended Stats added (Rampager, Cleric, Knight, Apothecary, and some wacky combo of precision, power, and toughness).

10/7/2013 – Still no Valkyrie/Carrion Ascended gear.

Kinda a copy and paste from a previous post of mine, but hey, it still hasn’t been addressed. Valkyrie and Carrion are two stat combos that have been in the game since Day 1, derived from Fangs/Beryl Orb and Bones/Chrysocola Orbs respectively.

Despite this, we’ve gone nearly a year since ascended gear was released without these missing stat combinations being implemented. It took over 3 months to add other missing stats, but for some odd reason, they left out Valkyrie and Carrion and added some random new stat set and Apothecary instead, which wasn’t introduced until Lost Shores. The “why” on this is puzzling. What’s even more puzzling though is the silence after it was confirmed that this wasn’t intentional and that these stats would be added in the future.

We’ve been more then patient, and some type of response is more then warranted at this point. The “it takes time and there’s a huge amount of stuff on our list of things to do” isn’t cutting it as an excuse. Items are added all the time, and it is glaringly obvious to the players that there are prioritization issues. Hard to add new items? We’ll just add new stats combos (Azurite/Sentinel) while ignoring the missing ones. Icons? We’ll just change the Dragon’s Bash food icons out of the blue rather then make ones for the missing stat items. Skins isn’t even an issue since trinkets don’t have them and the ascended back ones use the same ones. If you’re prioritizing random things like the SAB or temporary kitten content rather then a glaring hole in gear implementation, I don’t know what to say. Something like this should be a top priority, not put on the back burner. Quite frankly we’re fed up with all this.

For those that would say, change your gear set, etc. That’s missing the point. Imagine if say Berserker or PTV ascended where missing and this situation occurred. Yet this is exactly what has occurred for Valkyrie and Carrion.

So once again, why has this gear not been implemented yet? Has this fallen through the cracks? What will be done to address this and when? Answers would be much appreciated.

Reading how adamant some players are about this makes me curious: do a lot of you actually run the exact same stat combo on 100% of your equipment?(or in this case, wish that you could?)

You can reach very similar total stats by combining several types, usually leading to much more well-rounded builds.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Reading how adamant some players are about this makes me curious: do a lot of you actually run the exact same stat combo on 100% of your equipment?

Never seen any zerker, have you?

GrandmaFunk.3052:

You can reach very similar total stats by combining several types, usually leading to much more well-rounded builds.

Funny thing. Guess what stat types were often used to create well-rounded builds?

“Reading how adamant some players are about this makes me curious: do a lot of you actually run the exact same stat combo on 100% of your equipment?(or in this case, wish that you could?)
You can reach very similar total stats by combining several types, usually leading to much more well-rounded builds.”

You definitely cannot do what you suggest when it comes to Carrion (for condi thief). If you use ascended Rabid you trade Vitality for toughness which is a bad tradeoff given our HP tier and ranged nature.

You trade power for precision which (since condi thieves dont use crit at all) which is far worse, you trade somethign very useful for something NOT USEFUL AT ALL.

So you have a spec (P/D or D/D condi) that no one thinks is OP but for some reason you stagnate at exotic when everyon else gets to have better gear.

For a condi thief Carrion is the best by a mile. Everything else wastes stats egregiously.

@abarrent – ty

Listen, I’m not jumping up and down and screaming I just want to know if it’s ever coming, because if it isn’t I’ll maybe make Dire ascended and have a tankier set and at least spend the 147 laurels I have.

It’s not my game and you can make the rules what every you want, but what I don’t want to happen is to give in and by Dire and then have you introduce Carrion. That would produce a ragequit most likely. I don’t run fractals, I just WvW.

I am just asking for some guidance.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Reading how adamant some players are about this makes me curious: do a lot of you actually run the exact same stat combo on 100% of your equipment?(or in this case, wish that you could?)

You can reach very similar total stats by combining several types, usually leading to much more well-rounded builds.

Yes, I do use carrion on all of my equipment. As a condition d/d deathblossom thief — precision is not useful as conditions don’t crit, toughness is not so useful due to our low health pool, healing isn’t so useful as we are limited in heals — but power, vitality, cond damage hit our needed stats perfectly.

Sadly still no word on when / if this will ever be resolved.

Berelious.3290:

Nike.2631:

Will people STOP THROWING AROUND THE WORD ‘PROMISE’. Please? They just said ‘we will have all the stat combos’. Its not a marriage agreement. Its not a binding contract. Its a conversation.

In this case its almost certainly a bug. One of about 420 introduced in this patch (a.k.a. about par for the course). Report it in the bug forums and give them a day or two to fix it.

Not only this, but I don’t seem to recall them giving an actual time frame for WHEN they’d be adding it. Don’t jump to conclusions.

My goodness. You’re actually defending a company that said this would be added. No, they did not give a time frame, but Carrion Ascended is something that should’ve been released along with all the other ascended equipment. Failure to do so would obviously result in a backlash of angry customers, and it has resulted that way. It’s getting tiring seeing all of the white knights defending Anet from criticism they need to hear, and frankly, your defense does not help improve this game one bit. 6 months is unacceptable and it shouldn’t take more than a week at most to implement. There is no excuse as to why this hasn’t been implemented yet.

Considering how much Ascended gear costs (in super valuable laurels) it’s understandable that people would want to know whether Carrion gear is coming or not.

If it is, people know to wait. If it’s not, then people know to use their laurels to get another type of gear. Imagine how upset people would be if they gave up waiting, got another set of (sub-optimal) gear and then Carrion gear came out shortly thereafter — ESPECIALLY since Ascended gear costs so much (of a time-gated resource).

Still waiting on Magi gear

I have actually stopped playing until they either give us a firm timetable to add ascended carrion gear or simply tell us it won’t be added to trinkets/accessories. I don’t like being stuck in limbo while I play though, so I’ve been gone about a month and will occasionally check back to see if anything’s changed.

Galtrix.7369:

Berelious.3290:

Nike.2631:

Will people STOP THROWING AROUND THE WORD ‘PROMISE’. Please? They just said ‘we will have all the stat combos’. Its not a marriage agreement. Its not a binding contract. Its a conversation.

In this case its almost certainly a bug. One of about 420 introduced in this patch (a.k.a. about par for the course). Report it in the bug forums and give them a day or two to fix it.

Not only this, but I don’t seem to recall them giving an actual time frame for WHEN they’d be adding it. Don’t jump to conclusions.

My goodness. You’re actually defending a company that said this would be added. No, they did not give a time frame, but Carrion Ascended is something that should’ve been released along with all the other ascended equipment. Failure to do so would obviously result in a backlash of angry customers, and it has resulted that way. It’s getting tiring seeing all of the white knights defending Anet from criticism they need to hear, and frankly, your defense does not help improve this game one bit. 6 months is unacceptable and it shouldn’t take more than a week at most to implement. There is no excuse as to why this hasn’t been implemented yet.

Exactly this. It should have been implemented from the beginning. It shouldn’t take a year to add.

And for the record, the last official post was that they would be added ‘in the next batch’ of ascended — yet, we got the weapons batch, but the carrion/other stat trinkets were not added. Hence the thread.

I agree. My new engi needs some carrion love :\

They are almost certainly waiting for when they bump up jeweler to 500 to introduce the remaining stat combos as craftable items. I suspect that will come before the end of the year as per their promise in the last blog.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

They are almost certainly waiting for when they bump up jeweler to 500 to introduce the remaining stat combos as craftable items. I suspect that will come before the end of the year as per their promise in the last blog.

IF this was / is true, why don’t they just tell us? It would go along way towards building good will as well as being transparent or ‘black and white’. They have a giant thread about better communication. Well here is a chance to commincate something that the playerbase has been asking about for over a year and it seems like all of the questions disappear into the void.

I’d just like to know if the missing sets will ever be introduced and if we will ever be able to mix & match our stats with the ‘gem’ bonus, for example beserker of the knight stats or valkryie of the soldier or whatever like we can with exotics.

All in all ascended gear has been handled poorly from the very start. From it’s announcement to its introduction to its aquirement to where we are now. Its hard to say that not one step from beginning to now hasn’t been handled without stumbling.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

They are almost certainly waiting for when they bump up jeweler to 500 to introduce the remaining stat combos as craftable items. I suspect that will come before the end of the year as per their promise in the last blog.

Last time i heard this, it was about them “certainly waiting for when they add ascended crafting to the game”. Before that it was “surely when they add earrings”. And so on, and so on, for a year already. Last time any dev commented on it, they said that all missing stat sets will be added the next time ascended gear gets introduced. That was over half a year ago.

Just chiming in to say this is the single issue stopping me from playing again. Either tell us it will be added like you originally promised or that we should give up and change our specs/spend laurels elsewhere. I check about once a month to see if you’ve resolved this, and still nothing. Please reply!

They should just drop prefixes altogether. It’s going to get really messy over the years as they add more, and just imagine if they add a new base that has 4 stats.

They should just let you choose whatever stats you want. Just give 3 slots or something and let you put a stat gem in it. It’d be way simpler and allow for everything. It’ll also fix the problem of not being locked to whatever prefix is on the item.

Unfortunately however, it seems they’re trying to use stat combos as a form of progression, along with new runes and sigils.

If you want to keep your fractal level you can keep it. Period

If you want to get Carrion Ascended gear, you can get it. Period

Couldn’t resist. Anyways, I don’t believe they had a set date for Carrion gear so no use complaining about it. They might introduce it with the fractal update who knows. Considering it’s one of the core stat types of the games (i.e not added later) I think it should’ve been implemented with the first set of ascended items

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Occam%27s_weapons

Hmmmm

There is weapon, no trinkets yet.

Unfortunately, this thread is still prevalent. Any word on ascended carrion trinkets…?