Guild Wars 2

Finding a group for the new dungeon Fractals of the Mist is so annoying and just…. i dunno…

1) people are ’’lfg’’ for the same level, yet they dont actually ask or invite anyone.

2) the worst part, people care SO MUCH about your level ‘’are you 80? no? well ok, bye then’’
i mean, you get SCALED up… (the character i wanted to do it with, was 65, and yet people werent ok with me being scaled up 15 levels)…

3) So once i got a group, at some point, we seemed to be dying a lot, so i unequipped my clothes, and when i explained that i dont wanna spend that much money on that overpriced repair system, they kicked me from the party and i had to do it all over again..

(Edit: i DO equip during important fights, especially boss fights, i UNEQUIP during moments with enviromental damage or otherwise places, where having better stats is not that important [Especially some 1-hit death places]

4) People arent having fun in this game…at all…. just lots of rudeness and caring about getting loot.. I mean…all i want to do is to enjoy playing this game -.-

there might be something else, but i cant remember atm.

I get it you aren’t an MMO old timer because any of this isn’t new once you light up that ugly min-maxing stat mentality in the MMO player brain.

3) is definitely your fault, I’m extremely sorry to say it. And you’re funny too!

If you like MMO’s you’re going to love guild wars 2.

And if you DON’T like MMOs, then you’re REALLY going to love guild wars 2.

Cmon… you gotta be loving it! ehh? Ehh? All the gear checks and kicking and spamming, complaining, blaming, whining, wiping and sitting around in towns waiting for groups. FUN!

francisling.2987:

3) is definitely your fault, I’m extremely sorry to say it. And you’re funny too!

Oh hey, let’s not put in a repair anvil in the fractal also, because that is not going to annoy non-elitists.

Dungeons already drained all my coins lol, so i simply decided, that in a dungeon, id only wear clothes if it was some stronger boss fight, not to waste repair money by being swarmed and killed by those little mobs.

(and you cant repair while inside the fractal anyway)

Andovar Edoras.2143:

Finding a group for the new dungeon Fractals of the Mist is so annoying and just…. i dunno…

1) people are ’’lfg’’ for the same level, yet they dont actually ask or invite anyone.

2) the worst part, people care SO MUCH about your level ‘’are you 80? no? well ok, bye then’’
i mean, you get SCALED up… (the character i wanted to do it with, was 65, and yet people werent ok with me being scaled up 15 levels)…

3) So once i got a group, at some point, we seemed to be dying a lot, so i unequipped my clothes, and when i explained that i dont wanna spend that much money on that overpriced repair system, they kicked me from the party and i had to do it all over again..

4) People arent having fun in this game…at all…. just lots of rudeness and caring about getting loot.. I mean…all i want to do is to enjoy playing this game -.-

there might be something else, but i cant remember atm.

1. Not sure how this affects you.
2. That’s the group’s prerogative if they don’t want people below level 80. I personally only want to group with level 80 players because they’re going to have more traits and probably are better geared for their level than you are, since people don’t go for valuable gear while leveling.
3. I would kick you as well. With no gear equipped you’re a detriment to the group. There are plenty other people who can scrape together the handful of silver for repairs.
4. I’m having fun. I think I count as people.

Laelgon.8046:

Andovar Edoras.2143:

Finding a group for the new dungeon Fractals of the Mist is so annoying and just…. i dunno…

1) people are ’’lfg’’ for the same level, yet they dont actually ask or invite anyone.

2) the worst part, people care SO MUCH about your level ‘’are you 80? no? well ok, bye then’’
i mean, you get SCALED up… (the character i wanted to do it with, was 65, and yet people werent ok with me being scaled up 15 levels)…

3) So once i got a group, at some point, we seemed to be dying a lot, so i unequipped my clothes, and when i explained that i dont wanna spend that much money on that overpriced repair system, they kicked me from the party and i had to do it all over again..

4) People arent having fun in this game…at all…. just lots of rudeness and caring about getting loot.. I mean…all i want to do is to enjoy playing this game -.-

there might be something else, but i cant remember atm.

1. Not sure how this affects you.
2. That’s the group’s prerogative if they don’t want people below level 80. I personally only want to group with level 80 players because they’re going to have more traits and probably are better geared for their level than you are, since people don’t go for valuable gear while leveling.
3. I would kick you as well. With no gear equipped you’re a detriment to the group. There are plenty other people who can scrape together the handful of silver for repairs.
4. I’m having fun. I think I count as people.

to your nr 1, it makes finding people much harder, because no interaction is actually made.

While I personally accept low lvl people in my runs, leveling to 80 in this game is super easy. If you can’t be bothered to do even that, expect really a lot of people to kick you.

Not that I don’t feel you, but technically and traditionally, Dungeons are for ‘serious’ players whose going to give 110% effort 100% of the time while inside the dungeon.

Going naked just isn’t going to show 100% whatever your reasons are. You lose a lot of stats from it, and the team suffers from low DPS, hence the other 4 person will waste more time and risk more wipe on the Dungeon.

I’m getting a bit technical here, but anyway, you might not know this, but this is a MMO community, and in every MMO community, theres a certain Do’s and Don’t, an invisible rulebook, code of conduct, whatever. It’s not a world where you can do anything you want however you want it.

p.s. Sorry if I offend anyone, but reality sucks. Sorry!

its nice enough that, after one of the dungeons (and its name i dont remember)
i practically went from ’’fine’’ to ‘’dirt poor’’ with those repair prices.

its like using the waypoints…. i stand next to one, and i have to pay over 1 silver for it (also makes pve dying more expensive), compared to how my 2nd character, who is around level 35, pays like what….10-20 coppers?

this issue brought down my playing time with this character, from every day a few hours, to maybe once or twice per week or 2…
i have to grind events to cough up some coin, just to waste it all with 1 full repair..
=> not what i see as fun.

Zid.4196:

While I personally accept low lvl people in my runs, leveling to 80 in this game is super easy. If you can’t be bothered to do even that, expect really a lot of people to kick you.

hm, i do all the events and hearts i see, crafting as much as i can, exploring, and all that, yet somehow leveling still doesnt seem so ’’easy’’. and of course i have a life too, cant just grind for levels 24/7 like some people do.

(and it might also affect that i have 2 rerolls already)

If your dying a lot taking your gear off is only going to make it worse.

Common sense! I’d kick you too, sorry. I am by no means elitist, in fact, I’ve been putting off heading to the fractals as I rerolled my main for aesthetics.

Your level 65, upscaled. That doesn’t mean you have level 80 exotic stats, it means your running around with very basic level 80 stats, so your already at a disadvantage. (For example, the Lost Shore’s event at level 18 scaled up to 80 hurt like hell, had to be extremely careful). Taking off your gear removes, precious health and armour, making you even more likely to die, and decimates your damage, making you a dead weight to the group.

Think more! Especially if your going to come on the forum and try and blame the party for your own lack of foresight.

no wonder i hate playing in parties or joining guilds.

And all i want to do is simply play some fractals of the mists… -.-

so sad you cant simply solo it, i like soloing games, imo parties and guilds (mostly guilds) only drain the fun out of games.
(i only ever group up with my closest real life friends)

Andovar Edoras.2143:

no wonder i hate playing in parties or joining guilds.

And all i want to do is simply play some fractals of the mists… -.-

so sad you cant simply solo it, i like soloing games, imo parties and guilds (mostly guilds) only drain the fun out of games.
(i only ever group up with my closest real life friends)

I think maybe perhaps the massively multiplayer genre might not be what your looking for. This games immensely more fun with other people.

Andovar Edoras.2143:

Dungeons already drained all my coins lol, so i simply decided, that in a dungeon, id only wear clothes if it was some stronger boss fight, not to waste repair money by being swarmed and killed by those little mobs.

(and you cant repair while inside the fractal anyway)

that can actualy be considered as scamming, you can get your acount banned for dooing that.

Tito.3270:

Andovar Edoras.2143:

Dungeons already drained all my coins lol, so i simply decided, that in a dungeon, id only wear clothes if it was some stronger boss fight, not to waste repair money by being swarmed and killed by those little mobs.

(and you cant repair while inside the fractal anyway)

that can actualy be considered as scamming, you can get your acount banned for dooing that.

um…wat?

Andovar Edoras.2143:

Tito.3270:

Andovar Edoras.2143:

Dungeons already drained all my coins lol, so i simply decided, that in a dungeon, id only wear clothes if it was some stronger boss fight, not to waste repair money by being swarmed and killed by those little mobs.

(and you cant repair while inside the fractal anyway)

that can actualy be considered as scamming, you can get your acount banned for dooing that.

um…wat?

Are you asking details about a scam? Asking about hax or scam is also a bannable offense.

Well last night I made a group with a guildie. We sort of quickly found us a full team. 1 of them were only lvl 60something. We had fun, we chatted a bit underways and speculated on the locations and did pretty well in the first 2 fractals.
Unfortunately one of us DC’ed and those of use left to work on the 3rd fractal we had gotten into just ended up unable to complete it and give up.
But we had fun for as long as it lasted, was a good experience.

Had anyone decided to do like you and take off the armor… I would have questioned it too… that aint a good move. I know armor repair costs sucks, but I know from experience, that dungeon going is usually unsuccessful if you strip down. The only time it is ok to be naked in a dungeon is if all pieces are broken. This should not happen in other dungeons as you should go for repairs before then. In Fractals as you cannot get back to the lab untill completion of 3 fractals (right?) ending up naked is what happens.

Anyways, you will encounter more elitists and people that wont take you in the group. It is unfortunate, but things like this happened in GW1 too and from what I hear it also happens in all other MMO’s so nothing much to do about that, other than avoiding it when you can. It is about finding those people that are cool with your way of playing and possibly play similar ways. Just… repair that danm armor. You are not even at the level yet where it gets really expensive.

Andovar Edoras.2143:

3) So once i got a group, at some point, we seemed to be dying a lot, so i unequipped my clothes, and when i explained that i dont wanna spend that much money on that overpriced repair system, they kicked me from the party and i had to do it all over again..

Yeah.

You deserve to be kicked.

You’re asking to basically be afk while everyone else does the dungeon for you.

That’s just not on.

Try thinking about the 4 other people in your group.

Now then, before calling me useless, usually in fight or dungeons, i focus on bringing the utility and support to the fight. If you want me to deal tons of damage, youre looking at the wrong class, mesmers arent meant for just dishing out damage. And im not freeloading, im actively playing along, while being friendly and fun during the journey…sad that others dont always react the same way..

Andovar Edoras.2143:

Finding a group for the new dungeon Fractals of the Mist is so annoying and just…. i dunno…

1) people are ’’lfg’’ for the same level, yet they dont actually ask or invite anyone.

2) the worst part, people care SO MUCH about your level ‘’are you 80? no? well ok, bye then’’
i mean, you get SCALED up… (the character i wanted to do it with, was 65, and yet people werent ok with me being scaled up 15 levels)…

3) So once i got a group, at some point, we seemed to be dying a lot, so i unequipped my clothes, and when i explained that i dont wanna spend that much money on that overpriced repair system, they kicked me from the party and i had to do it all over again..

4) People arent having fun in this game…at all…. just lots of rudeness and caring about getting loot.. I mean…all i want to do is to enjoy playing this game -.-

there might be something else, but i cant remember atm.

A couple of things I would say in response to what you posted.

1. Not sure what to say on this really. If I’m looking for people and they say they’re on the same level that I am, I send em an invite. The higher I’ve gotten the harder it gets to find ppl.

2. Most folks are savvy to understand how the scaling up process works but there is something you’re not thinking about. It’s not about your gear scaling up etc., it’s that you are missing trait points to finish or flesh out your build. That may not seem like a big deal but it really is, at least imo. The other issue is how you’ve spent your skill points and what skills you’ve purchased. I’m finding the more I’m in these fractals the more I need various skills depending on the situation and if you’re missing some that you may need, you’re stressing your team.

3. Lol, you should’ve gotten kicked.

Andovar Edoras.2143:

2) the worst part, people care SO MUCH about your level ‘’are you 80? no? well ok, bye then’’
i mean, you get SCALED up… (the character i wanted to do it with, was 65, and yet people werent ok with me being scaled up 15 levels)…

3) So once i got a group, at some point, we seemed to be dying a lot, so i unequipped my clothes, and when i explained that i dont wanna spend that much money on that overpriced repair system, they kicked me from the party and i had to do it all over again..

This post really just sounds like a troll/joke post, but anyways…

I hate this patch and the ascended gear. I haven’t done a single dungeon, cause I don’t like that.
SERIOUSLY these dungeons aren’t made for lvl 65 people running around naked… and you’re basically just a free rider with that setup.

Andovar Edoras.2143:

2) the worst part, people care SO MUCH about your level ‘’are you 80? no? well ok, bye then’’
i mean, you get SCALED up… (the character i wanted to do it with, was 65, and yet people werent ok with me being scaled up 15 levels)…

3) So once i got a group, at some point, we seemed to be dying a lot, so i unequipped my clothes, and when i explained that i dont wanna spend that much money on that overpriced repair system, they kicked me from the party and i had to do it all over again..

I welcome you to the world of gear & level progression: you get scaled yes, but you don’t have full traits and also you go and do it naked. This means that they ll have to spend extra hours to gain the next dungeon level because your character is substandard.

I don’t say I agree with this! But I say that is how it is if level and gear is important and you have to see it from their view point. Would you like to spend 4h in a dungeon instead of 2h because you invited the wrong person.

I suggest to you to first get 80 or find a group of guild members who are all not 80.

now then, read again, maybe now you understand, i dont walk around naked 24/7, just places where having better stats isnt important. OF COURSE i equip in boss fights or otherwise tough fights…

It seems like im the only person in the game who doesnt have an endless coin supply in their pocket…Considering how you would have to do about 8-10 Renown Hearts (not counting events atm) to get just ONE full repair..

Phoenix.6735:

I get it you aren’t an MMO old timer because any of this isn’t new once you light up that ugly min-maxing stat mentality in the MMO player brain.

If GW2 was your first MMO you would never have known about it until now.

We never had it until this new dungeon

Tito.3270:

Andovar Edoras.2143:

Dungeons already drained all my coins lol, so i simply decided, that in a dungeon, id only wear clothes if it was some stronger boss fight, not to waste repair money by being swarmed and killed by those little mobs.

(and you cant repair while inside the fractal anyway)

that can actualy be considered as scamming, you can get your acount banned for dooing that.

Tell that to all the naked 80’s in events.

Ryan.6951:

If you like MMO’s you’re going to love guild wars 2.

And if you DON’T like MMOs, then you’re REALLY going to love guild wars 2.

Cmon… you gotta be loving it! ehh? Ehh? All the gear checks and kicking and spamming, complaining, blaming, whining, wiping and sitting around in towns waiting for groups. FUN!

Sounds like WoW… smells like WoW… Where’s my mount!!!!! We really need mounts for posing perhaps the locusts will demand it once they get dungeon finders and gearscore

lvl 80 full exotics done lvl 2 run to the end, my repair bill was just over 9 silver, and I died plenty dropping from heights and that stupid stairway that you have to dodge electrical bars on, you are telling me that 9 – 10 silver is to much for you to pay for repairs, and I doubt it would cost you that much if you are only lvl 65.

I can understand people not wanting players that have not reached lvl 80 , they die a lot, had a lvl 61 in our party on a lvl1 fractual, it was like he was being 1 shotted everytime we came up against a mob. But we didnt deny him a run, it was pretty funny.

Cod Eye.1632:

lvl 80 full exotics done lvl 2 run to the end, my repair bill was just over 9 silver, and I died plenty dropping from heights and that stupid stairway that you have to dodge electrical bars on, you are telling me that 9 – 10 silver is to much for you to pay for repairs, and I doubt it would cost you that much if you are only lvl 65.

I can understand people not wanting players that have not reached lvl 80 , they die a lot, had a lvl 61 in our party on a lvl1 fractual, it was like he was being 1 shotted everytime we came up against a mob. But we didnt deny him a run, it was pretty funny.

one full repair to me is like 20 silvers, maybe 15.. which does seem weird.

1) ok
2) Lv80 gear has better stats, therefore a lv80 character with lv80 will perform better than a lv1 in whites, statistically. Blame Anet for this system.
3) I will kick you too, expect when you do so at enviromental damages. Then it’s ok.
4) You can blame the people, but the whole idea of this dungeon is getting higher so you get better loot. There is no fun in doing the same dungeon 20 times, you do it for the loot (which you could also get by logging on for 5 minutes during a one time event, but that aside). If you want fun, grab some guildies and do some other dungeon. FotM is all about the reward. Blame Anet for this dungeon mechanic.

I don’t agree on all parts, nor do I disagree on all reactions, but I would like to add this:

from what I gathered in WvW and from dungeons, there is this odd reasoning going on:

- when people discuss the game they tell you NOT to rush leveling, NOT to complete map and go on, they tell you to take it SLOW.
They tell you the endgame IS the game itself. They tell you that you are doing it wrong if you hurry to 80.
And they often use caps in odd places to tell you that.

- when you discuss WvW they tell you that it’s easy to get to 80 and you shouldn’t complain about imbalance as a leveler. Just get to 80 fast.

- when you discuss dungeons they tell you that you need to be serious about it and leveling to 80 first isn’t too much to ask.
Again: just get to 80 fast.

There are inherent flaws in this reasoning, and in this design for that matter.

I already decided not to do this FotM dungeon anymore, i just wanted to explore this new place but all people care about is loot anyway, so ill just forget it.
And wow, not a single person in this thread that agrees that sometimes its better to unequip rather than waste coins.

+Even though dying in PVE is annoying and rather expensive (you pay for repairs AND waypoint revives, each about 1,3silvers maybe)

Andovar Edoras.2143:

I already decided not to do this FotM dungeon anymore, i just wanted to explore this new place but all people care about is loot anyway, so ill just forget it.
And wow, not a single person in this thread that agrees that sometimes its better to unequip rather than waste coins.

+Even though dying in PVE is annoying and rather expensive (you pay for repairs AND waypoint revives, each about 1,3silvers maybe)

Nobody is going to agree that playing without equipment is anything but a selfish act on your part.

Even if your playing a support role, losing the extra health/armour makes your a liability that is likely to further hinder your already wiping party.

Everybody else manages their money to such a degree that they can cover repair bills and still have some change, why is it too much to expect that a player who proclaims to be friendly and fun, to play respectfully towards the other players in his/her party?

Pants.8315:

Andovar Edoras.2143:

I already decided not to do this FotM dungeon anymore, i just wanted to explore this new place but all people care about is loot anyway, so ill just forget it.
And wow, not a single person in this thread that agrees that sometimes its better to unequip rather than waste coins.

+Even though dying in PVE is annoying and rather expensive (you pay for repairs AND waypoint revives, each about 1,3silvers maybe)

Nobody is going to agree that playing without equipment is anything but a selfish act on your part.

Even if your playing a support role, losing the extra health/armour makes your a liability that is likely to further hinder your already wiping party.

Everybody else manages their money to such a degree that they can cover repair bills and still have some change, why is it too much to expect that a player who proclaims to be friendly and fun, to play respectfully towards the other players in his/her party?

my money status used to be completely fine, since i never buy anything anyway, besides gathering tools and scavenging packs..

I blame that level 60 dungeon. like i mentioned before. it kinda brought me from ’’fine’’ to broke. (especially that one golem boss that throws fire, practically instakilling your whole party)

Dungeons always seem to take more money away from you than actually give good stuff, seeing as most of the stuff i get is useless junk, sometimes rarely it might be a better rarity, but mostly just common armor that my characters cant use. (and i have 3 of them.)

Bring a few spare pieces of really cheap gear at your level to swap to. If it gets broken, throw it out and get more later.

Ardrea.7045:

Bring a few spare pieces of really cheap gear at your level to swap to. If it gets broken, throw it out and get more later.

Good idea actually and one I have used in the past. Masterwork or even rares are fairly cheap on the TP and you will at least be wearing something when your good armor armor turns to dust. Repairs are a pox on us all, but unless you want to find yourself kicked by many either find a like minded group of friends or carry an extra set of armor. Hint: 10 slot invisible bags are cheap on the TP and you can buy a set without having the fear of selling them at the first vender you sell loot at.

unequipping is on you buddy.

Andovar Edoras.2143:

Finding a group for the new dungeon Fractals of the Mist is so annoying and just…. i dunno…

1) people are ’’lfg’’ for the same level, yet they dont actually ask or invite anyone.

2) the worst part, people care SO MUCH about your level ‘’are you 80? no? well ok, bye then’’
i mean, you get SCALED up… (the character i wanted to do it with, was 65, and yet people werent ok with me being scaled up 15 levels)…

3) So once i got a group, at some point, we seemed to be dying a lot, so i unequipped my clothes, and when i explained that i dont wanna spend that much money on that overpriced repair system, they kicked me from the party and i had to do it all over again..

(Edit: i DO equip during important fights, especially boss fights, i UNEQUIP during moments with enviromental damage or otherwise places, where having better stats is not that important [Especially some 1-hit death places]

4) People arent having fun in this game…at all…. just lots of rudeness and caring about getting loot.. I mean…all i want to do is to enjoy playing this game -.-

there might be something else, but i cant remember atm.

Let me break this down…

You aren’t level 80 yet don’t understand that with levels comes traits/skills that greatly help in dungeons.

You want to run a instance but don’t’ want it to cost you anything so you un-equip your armor making the other group members work harder just to carry you.

By “People” it seems you are referring to the player base and I for one have not elected you to speak for me nor has my guild and friends, so when you say people aren’t having fun you speak incorrectly because a lot of people are having a great time.

Adding all of these things up it is overwhelmingly apparent why you might not be chosen for groups, and I don’t mean to offend you but I wouldn’t pick you either. This is not meant to be a harsh post but just to maybe open your eyes a little.

Andovar Edoras.2143:

Pants.8315:

Andovar Edoras.2143:

I already decided not to do this FotM dungeon anymore, i just wanted to explore this new place but all people care about is loot anyway, so ill just forget it.
And wow, not a single person in this thread that agrees that sometimes its better to unequip rather than waste coins.

+Even though dying in PVE is annoying and rather expensive (you pay for repairs AND waypoint revives, each about 1,3silvers maybe)

Nobody is going to agree that playing without equipment is anything but a selfish act on your part.

Even if your playing a support role, losing the extra health/armour makes your a liability that is likely to further hinder your already wiping party.

Everybody else manages their money to such a degree that they can cover repair bills and still have some change, why is it too much to expect that a player who proclaims to be friendly and fun, to play respectfully towards the other players in his/her party?

my money status used to be completely fine, since i never buy anything anyway, besides gathering tools and scavenging packs..

I blame that level 60 dungeon. like i mentioned before. it kinda brought me from ’’fine’’ to broke. (especially that one golem boss that throws fire, practically instakilling your whole party)

Dungeons always seem to take more money away from you than actually give good stuff, seeing as most of the stuff i get is useless junk, sometimes rarely it might be a better rarity, but mostly just common armor that my characters cant use. (and i have 3 of them.)

I know the dungeon you speak of and as long as you understand and learn the fight you wont wipe….heck I can’t remember the last time we died in that dungeon to the flame golem. It is far from a insta-kill.

I’m enjoying the new dungeon, speak for yourself

I’ll only take a non 80 on the first few levels of the fractals, upscaling doesnt help against the later stuff

If you take off your gear in a group I will kick you, if you decide to only wear MF gear in the group and are not skilled enough to contribute with kittened stats I will ask you to change your gear, or you will get kicked.

Im having a blast in the new dungeon, having a system where a dungeon is a puzzle and bosses have a neat mechanic to win instead of just zerg the boss to death is win in my book, good job anet.

Speaking just for people scaled up to 80- I’ve done about 5 attempts at fractals with a member of the team who is below 80 and 5/5 times the person below 80 has shown that they do not know how to follow orders, lack understanding of the game mechanics, and obviously a lvl 80 will have higher stats and better armor than a person who is lvl 20 scaled up. Is this a case of a few bad low levels ruining it for a whole group of good low level players? Maybe but I think its more that the majority of players below 80 are not very good.

Ryan.6951:

All the gear checks and kicking and spamming, complaining, blaming, whining, wiping and sitting around in towns waiting for groups. FUN!

Best GW2 quote, ever.

Andovar Edoras.2143:

my money status used to be completely fine, since i never buy anything anyway, besides gathering tools and scavenging packs..

I blame that level 60 dungeon. like i mentioned before. it kinda brought me from ’’fine’’ to broke. (especially that one golem boss that throws fire, practically instakilling your whole party)

If you play with lvl 80 exo geared
Dungeon runs nets you from 0,5 to 2G each….thats because despite what elitists says MOST dungeon are designed for lvl 80 players.

The downgrade is not efficient at all and fails exactly like the upgrade.

p.S. and yes i asked many times to lowerdifficulty for lvl 30-40 dungeons……

Um….so im level 65, and people comment me about skills and traits….

Im only missing 1 elite, and its not that useful anyway (mass invisibility), there are simply better stuff to put as elite, than that..

traits arent THAT game changing, getting 1 boon for a lucky moment, or i dunno, i agree that i like those damage boosting traits, but its still not that much to make the difference between a strong and a weak player.

And the most important part here: im level 65, not something like 20… I ’’Almost’’ have what a 80 has..compared to a low level player..(and im not talking about gear, since i dont really care about those stuff, i never grind for gear anyway)

I want to do each dungeon once, and thats it, just for the story, not for the loot.

rofl andovar ure level 65 and ure trying to teach us how to play at level 80?

Now that i think of it, youre All level 80 with endlessly deep pockets, arent ya..(at least the level part).

For once, would be nice to hear opinions from people with lower levels since the higher a person’s level gets, the more selfish and rude they usually get with their ’’greatness’’

Andovar Edoras.2143:

Um….so im level 65, and people comment me about skills and traits….

Im only missing 1 elite, and its not that useful anyway (mass invisibility), there are simply better stuff to put as elite, than that..

traits arent THAT game changing, getting 1 boon for a lucky moment, or i dunno, i agree that i like those damage boosting traits, but its still not that much to make the difference between a strong and a weak player.

And the most important part here: im level 65, not something like 20… I ’’Almost’’ have what a 80 has..compared to a low level player..(and im not talking about gear, since i dont really care about those stuff, i never grind for gear anyway)

I want to do each dungeon once, and thats it, just for the story, not for the loot.

and here you are wrong…
The difference is huge…
They made you think its not but it is….

Once you will be lvl 80 in exo you’ll come here saying….“dungeons are too easy”

Andovar Edoras.2143:

Now that i think of it, youre All level 80 with endlessly deep pockets, arent ya..(at least the level part).

For once, would be nice to hear opinions from people with lower levels since the higher a person’s level gets, the more selfish and rude they usually get with their ’’greatness’’

Don’t you think YOU are the one being selfish here?

Because people don’t want to play with a level 65 who apparently has a bit of a temper, de-equips his gear mid instance and doesn’t understand the difference between train and utility skill, does not mean they are selfish.

It doesn’t mean they have an attitude problem or think they a great. It just simply means they want to play with who/how they want.

Do you think it is selfish for you to expect them to carry you butt naked through an instance because you don’t have the HP/Traits/Experience they do? Don’t you think it is selfish to blame THEM and making them sound like monsters for not taking you?

Again I am just trying to open your eyes a little…

Let me get this straight, you think level 80 ppl are wrong because they are not low enough level to be unbiased?
You will soon learn that Gear makes too much difference to ignore it, hindering your team because u dont want to waste coins its not their problem, why make it their?

The only reason i used to unequip before in a dungeon was when i was new at CoE at the laser part, and equip it right after, other than that i see no reason to unequip it anymore as its an easy jump puzzle once u get the hang of it.

Im not a deep pocket and i do not consider myself great, unfortunately you will soon trully find out the essence of that with ppl grinding the game in future grinding content, i wouldnt kick you if u unequiped ur armor, but i would warn u to equip it back, even though i can easelly do CoE with 4 in all paths (except path 1 as its broken now), it gives you the impression u just want to be team carried, maybe we would spare you some coin to fix it, but if you refused it, after we were done with the instance we would probably disband because of ur choice, now tell me who is rude in this situation?