Guild Wars 2

Boone.7132:

ahem… you asked what do other MMOs after for an endgame besides raiding and tiered gear? Well, allow me to make a short list of things that they have AND GW2 lacks:

mounts
dueling
arena (more fun that rated BGs.. if you disagree I will wager that you never managed to break 1600 in WoW and are bitter about it)
large scale “WvW” that doesnt involve hitting gates for 1 hour and running down a path
well-designed dungeons (not corpse rushes)

i am sure there is more!

And achievements where you actually feel like you achieved something. I mean dont get me wrong but killing 1k centaurs doesnt really feel like an awesome achievement.

Getting hit by falling dying Claw of Jormag thats an achievement, but unfortunately there are very few achievements like this in GW2. Most of the achievements are grind/farm type.

Looria.8019:

KniL.5126:

Go to ORR (level 80 Areas), make the puzzles, make level 80 dungeons (Ex: Arah) go to World vs World, go to sPVP and hit level 80 there. You can do a lot of things in level 80.

Lets take them one by one.

Go to ORR (level 80 areas). What to do there? I have the map completed and running through gazillions of mobs and pretty much being in combat 100% of times without any real sense of direction isnt my idea of fun. But anyway, that map completed.

Make the puzzles – I have all jumping puzzles completed. I LOVED THEM. But you can do them only once to actually get some reward and there are nowhere near enough of them in game to keep me playing. (And im telling you I would log in to the game just to do some jumpies)

Make lvl 80 dungeons (like Arah). For me, since its all about looks, there is no point in doing Arah more than I did to get my shoulders. However I did finish all the paths.

Go to WvW. My server usually has almost 100% of the map occupied so there is no incentive for me to go there. I dont need money, I dont need karma and joining a zerg to play some PvDoor isnt fun either.

sPvP, I am PvE player so I do occasionally PvP but its definitely not a reason for me to log in.

So tell me now, since the whole game is endgame and I should be going back to lower zones and do events as part of my “end game”. What should I do now? If i go to lower zones, I pretty much oneshot anything, get rubbish rewards (since its all about looks the rewards will always look worse than what I have from ExplM dungeons), there are no new bosses introduced in the lower zones for me to see.

Basically, the whole game isnt endgame. The endgame is simply missing from GW2.

Edit: forgot to add that I have 100% world completion..but that was like in second week after GW2 came out.

If all this is true, you tore through the game very quickly but do not sound disappointed by it, and would likely come back any time there is new content. This is exactly how many people I know were, at least prior to Nov 16. Loved the game, just not playing it as much for a while. Now, with the added content, some of those players may be content with the gear grind, but there are now people who are not satisfied with the direction of the game as a whole. Disgruntled, if they’re still playing, these people have little desire to support the game through gem purchases.

PS – When you have the itch to play (for a reason other than the item treadmill), you might try doing the jumping puzzles that lead you to a chest. It sounds like you enjoy those, and they reset daily.

Rhotsbin.8579:

PS – When you have the itch to play (for a reason other than the item treadmill), you might try doing the jumping puzzles that lead you to a chest. It sounds like you enjoy those, and they reset daily.

Problem is its not rewarding. There is no incentive doing the jumping puzzles again. For some lvl 15 blue? Whats the point. It doesnt give me any specific item look I would long for, it doesnt give me better quality item, it pretty much doesnt give me anything.

On the other hand you are right. I did enjoy the game, I feel I did have much more content than for 60 bucks. However I thought when all the leveling and exploring is over, I would jump on some achievements. But achievements like “kill 1000 centaurs” are not really achievements its just mindless killing its a farm/grind. If there were plenty achievements like “get hit by falling claw of jormag after being killed” yea thats awesome achievement but unfortunately there are not many in GW2.

So yea I will come back for some content. Let me rephrase that. For some quality content, not like the lost shores island which is pretty much useless and dead and doesnt even have completion or anything.

dalendria.3762:

“Why keep playing if I have done everything?” If you truly did everything and enjoyed it, then maybe there is nothing more for you to do.

So this is what we all paid for?

Vakirauta.6397:

dalendria.3762:

“Why keep playing if I have done everything?” If you truly did everything and enjoyed it, then maybe there is nothing more for you to do.

So this is what we all paid for?

$60. I’ve stopped playing GW2 completely and can’t complain that I got WELL over my $60 from it. Anet now would be aiming to make more from me in the form of gem store purchases. Unfortunately I regret even the $30 I did spend on gems after seeing the games true colors (that’d be pink ).

Having a lower max level would have solved all of the problems with people complaining about ‘end-game’ content.

Now: Player gets to max level, he/she finds out there is no tiered stat progression, and he/she quits the game.

Lower max level: Player gets to max level, he/she then plays through the 80% of the content that he/she has not done.

I’m baffled why ANet promoted GW2 by saying ‘the game IS the end-game’, yet they made the game the game and the end-game the end-game.