Guild Wars 2

Jovel.5706:

If you feel unmotivated, leave and come back 2 years later.

You’re not paying a subscription fee, the game will still be here when you come back.

… but if enough people follow this advice, the players won’t be

Snowmoon.1758:

Alot of players nowadays expect MMOs to have an “end game content”. There seriously isn’t any TBH. A good end game content IMO is the bond and friendships that you make with the community/guild, guys and gals that you look forward to logging in every night to chit chat with, run dungeons with etc. That alone beats the so-called “End Game Content” that everyone thinks they want.

True, but how does one find a fitting guild? I’ve been in 5 or 6 so far, and none of them was the sort of guild I was looking for. The main reason is that in other games, there were ways to rank/sort guilds. For example, in Aion you had total abyss points. Then if you were really hardcore, you could apply for the 1) guild and if you were very casual you’d pick something like 20). In RIFT you had raid progress which could also give you this indication. In GW2 there is nothing, so all you can do is shout LF GUILD in Lion’s Arch, and hope you can find some people with your mindset. So far, I have not succeeded.

Apart from this, I think the multi-guild system also greatly reduces the sort of “natural closeness” between guildies, since they are a lot less important if there’s a few other guilds that can replace them with a simple mouse click.

Veldan.4637:

Jovel.5706:

If you feel unmotivated, leave and come back 2 years later.

You’re not paying a subscription fee, the game will still be here when you come back.

… but if enough people follow this advice, the players won’t be

Then we will have proof as to whether GW1 was a better game or not.

Veldan.4637:

True, but how does one find a fitting guild? I’ve been in 5 or 6 so far, and none of them was the sort of guild I was looking for. The main reason is that in other games, there were ways to rank/sort guilds. For example, in Aion you had total abyss points. Then if you were really hardcore, you could apply for the 1) guild and if you were very casual you’d pick something like 20). In RIFT you had raid progress which could also give you this indication. In GW2 there is nothing, so all you can do is shout LF GUILD in Lion’s Arch, and hope you can find some people with your mindset. So far, I have not succeeded.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/guilds/guilds

That’s a good start.

The other is to do what you like and be a little social while you do it. Add some friends to your list. Contact them when you need players to run content with. Tell them to contact you too. Join their guild or form your own.

Well i do dugeons and dailies and events i try to complete the map, i’m an normal player, i don’t play every day if i don’t want too, i have other games to play, i take a break of the game and play other games, i play tomb raider, and other mmorpg that came out and i try to play them to see if they are good. I don’t like PvP and wvw too, i’m more an pve player.

Veldan.4637:

True, but how does one find a fitting guild? I’ve been in 5 or 6 so far, and none of them was the sort of guild I was looking for. The main reason is that in other games, there were ways to rank/sort guilds. For example, in Aion you had total abyss points. Then if you were really hardcore, you could apply for the 1) guild and if you were very casual you’d pick something like 20). In RIFT you had raid progress which could also give you this indication. In GW2 there is nothing, so all you can do is shout LF GUILD in Lion’s Arch, and hope you can find some people with your mindset. So far, I have not succeeded.

Apart from this, I think the multi-guild system also greatly reduces the sort of “natural closeness” between guildies, since they are a lot less important if there’s a few other guilds that can replace them with a simple mouse click.

If you are looking for hardcore guilds (or avoid those) like you indicated in your post, the best way to do so is to join your server’s community forum. Except couple servers, most of the forums are well organized and you will know the well known guilds (at least WvW ones) from reading the forum. You can also just join WvW and see which guilds the well known commanders are from and join them.

Of course it only works for WvW guilds, but I assume most PvE guilds are quite casual anyway.

The longer you push yourself to play when you don’t really want to, the longer it will take for you to come back to the game after your break. If you really want to stick to GW2, hell any game/hobby, breaks are important. Take everything in moderation. I’m sure there is other things you could be doing than playing GW2, balancing it out will help promote a healthy lifestyle too.

Ghanto.9784:

Vayne.8563:

Ghanto.9784:

Former Guild Wars 1 and DAoC players, etc. So it seems a bit of an odd choice for someone who’s interested primarily in PvE. There’s plenty of other MMO’s out there that cater primarily – and many exclusively – to PvE players, so my advice is to try playing some of those. Variety is the spice of life and all that, right?

Based on what evidence? This game is by far more PVe oriented, than PvP. There’s more PVe content overall, a ton of it, the major upgrades have mostly been PVe upgrades and the biggest portion of the design budget, including tons of voice acting, all went to PVe.

There are a couple of tabs for PvP achievements and everything else is a PvE achievement. Even WvW has PvE elements in it.

If this game centered around PvP there’d be open world PvP servers and dueling. This game has far more PVe content than PvP content.

In fact, the entire first year of promotion was ONLY about PvE, and all they showed at shows for the longest time was PVe.

I have no idea why some people still believe this.

Apparently you need to reread what I actually wrote, in particular the very first line:

“First off, this game is primarily about WvW/PvP – or at least is was supposed to be, and is why most of the initial players were so eager to play it.”

Note the “at least it was supposed to be” and “why most of the initial players…”

What I basically meant was that I would have thought that the “majority” of the buyers of this game, the people who bought it before launch and soon after, were looking for a good wvw/pvp game. I wouldn’t have thought a lot of people would have gravitated toward it because they heard what a great pve MMO it was – or was supposed to be.

And even though I personally agree with you that there has been too much emphasis on PvE by ArenaNet, I still think the end game – which this person is complaning about – is more rewarding for those who like to pvp. I can’t imagine just doing dungeons or fractals over and over again, or standing around in Divinity’s Reach role-playing. I’d probably want to quit too if that’s what I were spending all my time on.

I never said there was was too much emphasis on PvE (since I’m a Pve’er by nature), But I disagree that most people who bought the game are PvPers. I think there are at least as many Pve’ers playing this game, is not more.

I think the perspective that this game was supposed to be about PvP is off. I don’t know where you got the idea. Certainly they spent more time promoting PvE and a lot of the people who bought it were Pve’ers.