Guardians of the Vault [GotV] and Guíld of Dívíne Soldíers [GoDS]
Gate of Madness server
I’ve been seeing that guild’s tag around for a looooooong time, probably since launch, so they didn’t just pop up overnight in response to current events. They don’t bother anybody.
And I had my say on this subject back when the whole Marjory/Kasmeer debate was raging so I’m just gonna stop right there. We’re gamers, let’s go have fun together.
““Pro-White” groups tend to in fact be Anti-Black groups, and “Pro-Heteroseuxal” groups are often Anti-LGBT.”
This positive claim requires evidence you still haven’t provided.
Do you have a victim complex or something?
Now it just seems like you’re in denial, as evidenced by your circular-logic and double-standards.
If you’re offended by what I say, asking you to back up your claim, you’d probably be better off not responding. Or not making claims.
Koo Klux Klan, British national Party, German Nationalist Party, English defence league.. need I go on?
I think our friend’s position is more supported than yours.
I won’t oppose anyone that wants to create a guild as long as he or she complies with the ToS. However, this doesn’t seem to be case.
This thread was made with the only purpose of seeking attention and stirring up drama. The OP just doesn’t seem to like that much all the LGBT-friendly events that have happened recently both in-game and in the real world.
This looks more like a kind of reactionary thing than anything else. Nothing good can come out of this.
they didn’t just pop up overnight in response to current events.
+1 especially for this bit.
Why is it only a problem now, OP?
““Pro-White” groups tend to in fact be Anti-Black groups, and “Pro-Heteroseuxal” groups are often Anti-LGBT.”
This positive claim requires evidence you still haven’t provided.
Do you have a victim complex or something?
Now it just seems like you’re in denial, as evidenced by your circular-logic and double-standards.
If you’re offended by what I say, asking you to back up your claim, you’d probably be better off not responding. Or not making claims.Koo Klux Klan, British national Party, German Nationalist Party, English defence league.. need I go on?
I think our friend’s position is more supported than yours.
Black panthers, La Raza, Organization Us.. need I go on?
Also, three of those are nationalist groups. The only “hate group” you actually mentioned is the KKK. Do your research please.
EDL is actually against Islam, the largest hate group in the world to date.
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guys, you have no idea how good is to be in a guild were the word gay is not used as an insult. or where you can speak about something else besides boobs, and where women can play without being harassed with sentences like “go to the kitchen”.
or maybe i had bad encounters in prevoius “straight” guilds…
I won’t oppose anyone that wants to create a guild as long as he or she complies with the ToS. However, this doesn’t seem to be case.
This thread was made with the only purpose of seeking attention and stirring up drama. The OP just doesn’t seem to like that much all the LGBT-friendly events that have happened recently both in-game and in the real world.
This looks more like a kind of reactionary thing than anything else. Nothing good can come out of this.
I agree and disagree. Discussing such things can be very beneficial to all involved. It exposes us all to different viewpoints and allows those of us with open minds to change our positions based on reasoned arguments or lack there of. If I were on the fence about gay rights, the reasoned arguments of those for supporting rights, would be far more persuasive than the baffling non-arguments against.
Besides we can all use a shake up at times. We can become complacent in our ideas about the world. I sometimes fall into the idea that racism is a horror ofthe past, then I see a news report about yet another white police office killing an unarmed black kid or wrestling a pregnant woman to the ground for not giving her name. A right that people are supposed to be afforded in certain situations.
Threads like this remind us that the march towards equality is not yet complete.
guys, you have no idea how good is to be in a guild were the word gay is not used as an insult. or where you can speak about something else besides boobs, and where women can play without being harassed with sentences like “go to the kitchen”.
or maybe i had bad encounters in prevoius “straight” guilds…
…and where women can play without being harassed with sentences like “go to the kitchen”.
The “go to the kitchen” phrase and others like it are most often used in a joking manner.
If the person in question using it means it literally though, then that’s outright rude, and I don’t endorse that at all.
Also, the word “Gay” has had many meanings over the years (one of which being “happy”, which most people seem to forget), and denoting something as “stupid” or “disagreeable” is one of them.
You have to understand the meaning of the word in its context.
If a man asked for a “f_ag” would you call him a “bigot” for wanting another cig?
Threads like this remind us that the march towards equality is not yet complete
“March Towards Equality”? That kind of wording makes the nature of it as an agenda all the more apparent (as if it couldn’t be enough already), like we all need to conform to this standard and manner of thought or else
So everyone needs to do as you say or face repercussions for even speaking out against it? That’s as totalitarian as it gets.
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““Pro-White” groups tend to in fact be Anti-Black groups, and “Pro-Heteroseuxal” groups are often Anti-LGBT.”
This positive claim requires evidence you still haven’t provided.
Do you have a victim complex or something?
Now it just seems like you’re in denial, as evidenced by your circular-logic and double-standards.
If you’re offended by what I say, asking you to back up your claim, you’d probably be better off not responding. Or not making claims.Koo Klux Klan, British national Party, German Nationalist Party, English defence league.. need I go on?
I think our friend’s position is more supported than yours.
Black panthers, La Raza, Organization Us.. need I go on?
Also, three of those are nationalist groups. The only “hate group” you actually mentioned is the KKK. Do your research please.
EDL is actually against Islam, the largest hate group in the world to date.
Yes, and you proved my point. They claim to be Pro-one thing but in reality they are against soemthing else. The BNP and EDL, their very names claim pro-britain, in reality they are anti-muslim, anti-foreigner, anti-black, basically anti-anybody who isn’t white and english. That you know who they are suggests that you know this already. So stop being dishonest please.
Adding the Black Panthers to the list doesn’t change anything, infact it demonstrates that your focus is white and straight vs everyone else and supports the argument that pro-one thing groups can actually be just guises for anti-something else. These groups have demosntrated their agendas time and time again. they are known to be racist. That’s QED and doesn’t need to be re-proven.
I have yet to see one shred of evidence that LGBT groups in general are anti-straight. I see none at all that any guild here could be considered that way.
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