Guild Wars 2

Youngertwo.4956:

So I am more than 1k gold into Nevermore. I have also spent more than a hundred hours going to 100+ locations, waiting for obscure group events to spawn and traipsing back and forth across every zone.

I have 60/63 for Nevermore IV and have reached a hard stop. "Embody the Ley-Line Energy’ requires silver or better for The Ley-Line Run Adventure. It might as well be walking to the moon.

I am clumsy. Always have been. That is ok. I have many other gifts and can do most of the game well enough. I have completed a number of jumping puzzles and world completion a number of times.

I am ok with occasionally paying a mesmer for port, like https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Wall_Breach_Blitz and sometimes, with patience and repeated effort I can do them myself.

I am not a happy camper There was no warning that completing a timed race would be required. There is no other option for a work around, I am just unexpected stuck with no hope of progressing.

I want to either progress, or I want my gold and time back. Now, I have been playing games for about three decades at this point. So I realize that one person complaining on a forum, or even leaving a game entirely is not going to change anything.

However, I do think that the developers need to be loudly reminded that not everyone is a 13 year old with fighter pilot reflexes.

Drytop doesn’t work for me. I am ok with that. There were other level 80 zones available, and eventually Silverwastes came out which was better. I doubt that I will ever see the raid, and (again) I am ok with that. But many, MANY of us will not be able to be able to complete this adventure in the 90 seconds.

We could try a hundred, a thousand, or a hundred thousand tries. It isn’t going to change.

I suspect that many players will end up stuck here. People who have dedicated the time to complete ALL of the masteries, spent over 1000 gold, did map completion on all four of the new maps and then suddenly get stopped with an ugly ascended staff and no way to complete the project.

It is a good time for people to examine other game options.

I bolded the problem. You’re not.
Try – fail – repeat that over and over again – eventually you’ll get it.

Nobody is going to give you anything back – if you know you’re “particularly clumsy” maybe you should have checked beforehand if this weapon’s crafting process was “clumsy proof”.

It’s common sense to check whether or not you can accomplish a task or not before starting if you are aware you have an above-average limitation. It’s not like you discovered your own limit while building this.

However, I do think that the developers need to be loudly reminded that not everyone is a 13 year old with fighter pilot reflexes.

Sorry to remind you – but you’re just as responsible as they are.
Also honestly – the game has PLENTY of margin of error – but you probably need to try to improve more and take it more seriously if you are to succeed.

We could try a hundred, a thousand, or a hundred thousand tries. It isn’t going to change.

Unless you actually cannot even start it – trying repeatedly for 1000 times will most likely give you a win.
In fact – I’m willing to bet money that if you did this 1000 times – provided you went into it with no ill will or desire to prove me wrong – you would probably get it.

Obtena.7952:

Dante.1508:

Chaotic.9742:

Learning and overcoming something is part of a fun game experience,

No it is not.

That said my hands shake very badly and i have arthritis, my hand eye coordination will never get better, i’m personally ok with never getting a legendary, they are ugly as sin to me, but forcing such content to pass it is extremely unfair on those in my condition that ever did want them.

What ever happened to the original fun experience GW2 released as..

Oh how far we gamers have fallen. Did I actually read someone disagreeing that gaming is about learning and overcoming things? That’s a sad commentary on the state of gaming if that’s a common view.

If you are aware of your own issues then being aware of your own limitations should also be a thing.
It is indeed sad that people would rather complain they can’t do something rather than just objectively realize some things may or may not be for them.

Personally, I’d rather ANet had skipped adventures entirely and put the resources into events, a new dungeon path, etc. I prefer content which involves playing the character in a massive world that involves struggle against monsters and the like, using the builds and weapons that the game comes with — not playing platforming games that have little to nothing to do with the character, the lore or the story.

That said, I imagine that some people like these mini-games. If they have to be in the game, so be it, but I think it’s a mistake to gate things that have to do with the actual fantasy world part of the game behind participation. It should not harm those who like them to have the rewards be something exclusive to the content, but not tied to one of the game’s major goals — or to the stand-in for an XPac level increase.

I think it would be better for ANet in the long run to design around the idea of avoiding negative impact to any demographic from rewards that are designed to entice players to play more. Obviously, there are limits. There will be inevitable conflicts between player interests. However, I don’t see it here, whereas I do with things like raids, PvP, etc.

Some adventures I’d definitely write off too much, but my friend and I got Leyline silver after a few minutes. (Gold is ridiculous though), But for silver, you don’t even need to be fast. You just need to know where to jump. The thing is this race is so short you could fail 30 times and not waste much.

And note that I have never even finished things like Sanctum Scramble, much less get a silver.

Here’s just something I just did. Besides 1-2 points I don’t think it requires anything exceptional— in fact a lot of vistas and pois require more precision than this.

I think a problem is people link to the most l33t gold videos and others see them and are like “oh no, I can never do something like that” and get discouraged. My goal here is to break the thing down to its most basic state so you may realize the bare minimum isn’t anything out of your reach. I’m not trying to show off because there’s way better paths. I’m trying to show that you’re probably capable of much more than this, even if you haven’t realized it yet.

I feel bad for players that have issues that get between them and experiences all the game has to offer. But too often we seen designers make games and progress locked behind skill walls. They do this knowing that a segment of their community simply will not be able to progress to get that.. whatever it is.

It’s a rude awakening to someone who had been enjoying the game, to reach one of these walls, but it’s it is an awakening none the less. In the end of things, games are things meant to be enjoyed, pointless passing of time, that you find enjoyable, they are not going to provide you some valuable life lesson or teach you some marketable trade skill.

So, when you come to a wall, you need to ask yourself, do you have what it takes, Desire/Skill/Ability to surmount it?

If the answer is no, then, as unfortunate as it sounds, yes, it is time to look at other options on what to do with your free time.

It’s game, nothing more, and if you are not having fun, then it time to stop playing.

Dante.1508:

Obtena.7952:

Dante.1508:

Chaotic.9742:

Learning and overcoming something is part of a fun game experience,

No it is not.

That said my hands shake very badly and i have arthritis, my hand eye coordination will never get better, i’m personally ok with never getting a legendary, they are ugly as sin to me, but forcing such content to pass it is extremely unfair on those in my condition that ever did want them.

What ever happened to the original fun experience GW2 released as..

Oh how far we gamers have fallen. Did I actually read someone disagreeing that gaming is about learning and overcoming things? That’s a sad commentary on the state of gaming if that’s a common view.

I don’t play games for challenging content or feel the need to over come great issues, i play games casually to lay back and just go with the flow, games for me are for removing frustrations and tension not adding to it.

Do you watch a movie for a challenge and grind?

No, but games aren’t movies either so … #badcomparison

Maybe YOU don’t play games for those reasons but that is the whole premise of almost any game I can think of. I mean, I won’t get deep into game theory but … rules, challenge and interaction … fundamental elements of what defines something being a game. Redefining what you think a game should be to make your point is not going to make your point any better.

I mean, you have some limitation that prevents you from being successful in this game. i don’t understand why anyone would see fit to complain about it. I’m probably not good at tennis, but I’m not going to pay to join a tennis club, complain the rules and mechanics make it too hard for me to win, then appeal to the club to make tennis easier for me to play so I can succeed at it at the detriment of all the people that are better than I am. Even if they did make that concession, no one would play with me anyways, unless they sucked as bad as I did. That’s silly … and that’s what I’m seeing happen here.

The realistic answer is: I shouldn’t play tennis and if I did, realize how bad I am at it understanding that it would be unreasonable for someone to redefine tennis for me to win it, fooling myself into believing I can be good at it. It’s completely unrealistic and nonsensical.

To me, some things demand effort and perhaps even so called “challenge”, even in non-interactive forms of entertainment.

For example, even when watching a movie or story, there may be hidden meanings and messages that take effort to understand. Failing to understand them might be a failing on the creator’s part to make these things enticing enough but if the audience doesn’t put in their end for effort, it’s not always the piece of work’s fault if they choose not to spoonfeed everything.

As for video games, well, I would hope my actions have a meaningful impact on what happens. Otherwise, why bother?

Obtena.7952:

Dante.1508:

Obtena.7952:

Dante.1508:

Chaotic.9742:

Learning and overcoming something is part of a fun game experience,

No it is not.

That said my hands shake very badly and i have arthritis, my hand eye coordination will never get better, i’m personally ok with never getting a legendary, they are ugly as sin to me, but forcing such content to pass it is extremely unfair on those in my condition that ever did want them.

What ever happened to the original fun experience GW2 released as..

Oh how far we gamers have fallen. Did I actually read someone disagreeing that gaming is about learning and overcoming things? That’s a sad commentary on the state of gaming if that’s a common view.

I don’t play games for challenging content or feel the need to over come great issues, i play games casually to lay back and just go with the flow, games for me are for removing frustrations and tension not adding to it.

Do you watch a movie for a challenge and grind?

No, but games aren’t movies either so … #badcomparison

Maybe YOU don’t play games for those reasons but that is the whole premise of almost any game I can think of. I mean, I won’t get deep into game theory but … rules, challenge and interaction … fundamental elements of what defines something being a game. Redefining what you think a game should be to make your point is not going to make your point any better.

I mean, you have some limitation that prevents you from being successful in this game. i don’t understand why anyone would see fit to complain about it. I’m probably not good at tennis, but I’m not going to pay to join a tennis club, complain the rules and mechanics make it too hard for me to win, then appeal to the club to make tennis easier for me to play so I can succeed at it. That’s silly … and that’s what I’m seeing happen here.

Glad someone else shares my mindset. I was thinking I was the crazy one. All I can think of is when I played NES games and you literally had to figure everything out – no YouTube guides, no online forums, nothing. Just you (and your friends possibly) figuring things out and you couldn’t petition the game developers to make things easier/harder – you got what was made and that was it.

And note that I have never even finished things like Sanctum Scramble, much less get a silver.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP15T3wTYTY

Here’s just something I just did. Besides 1-2 points I don’t think it requires anything exceptional— in fact a lot of vistas and pois require more precision than this.

Oh, man, I don’t mean this to be a jerk or anything, but you’re doing that completely wrong, that’s why gold is so hard for you. I’m actually super impressed you managed silver like that. Every time you see one of those glowing yellow sparkballs? All you have to do there is press 1 to body-slam them, no tricks, from any angle you like because it auto-aims once i activates. Get a slight distance between you just in case though. There might be some lag that causes them to glitch, but with a few retries you should get it right. That alone shaves tens of seconds off your existing time. Your way is actually considerably harder for a slower time.

Obtena.7952:

The realistic answer is: I shouldn’t play tennis and if I did, realize how bad I am at it understanding that it would be unreasonable for someone to redefine tennis for me to win it, fooling myself into believing I can be good at it. It’s completely unrealistic and nonsensical.

I think grinding is a scam but each to their own I guess. I don’t associate grinding with casually playing tennis like you do. That is to say if you support the design of the game around “success” being the obtainable items, then you support the grinding scam because grinding is the game’s main feature.

Ohoni.6057:

And note that I have never even finished things like Sanctum Scramble, much less get a silver.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP15T3wTYTY

Here’s just something I just did. Besides 1-2 points I don’t think it requires anything exceptional— in fact a lot of vistas and pois require more precision than this.

Oh, man, I don’t mean this to be a jerk or anything, but you’re doing that completely wrong, that’s why gold is so hard for you. I’m actually super impressed you managed silver like that. Every time you see one of those glowing yellow sparkballs? All you have to do there is press 1 to body-slam them, no tricks, from any angle you like because it auto-aims once i activates. Get a slight distance between you just in case though. There might be some lag that causes them to glitch, but with a few retries you should get it right. That alone shaves tens of seconds off your existing time. Your way is actually considerably harder for a slower time.

I think you missed the point of the post. The annotations did point out you could jet through, after all. Or the rest of my post, lol.

My intention was to point out that you can get silver without any of the hyperbole in OP’s post. In fact, I almost walked the whole thing. I delibrately accounted for the complaints of not enough dexterity to perform the charges, accuracy in clicking, and latency— anyone can do it. If you think this video is bad and you could do better, then good for you. That was my point. Also this thread is just about silver.

But thanks for the tips for gold. My masteries are maxed so I have no need atm, but maybe sometime in the future will encourage me to try. I never thought I was going to max my masteries either, so…. There’s often a way eventually for most things.

Youngertwo.4956:

So I am more than 1k gold into Nevermore. I have also spent more than a hundred hours going to 100+ locations
…………..

It is a good time for people to examine other game options.

You could have just said that op.

My intention was to point out that you can get silver without any of the hyperbole in OP’s post. In fact, I almost walked the whole thing. I delibrately accounted for the complaints of not enough dexterity to perform the charges, accuracy in clicking, and latency— anyone can do it. If you think this video is bad and you could do better, then good for you. That was my point. Also this thread is just about silver.

Well, I just meant, you made a lot of tricky jumps and skillshot “#3” uses, when it’s actually easier to just use the #1 lightning jumps when they’re available. Seriously though, I don’t have gold on most of these, and don’t even have silver on many of them, but this one is about the second or third easiest to get gold on if you just go through the right motions (easiest is Wings of Gold, I think, second easiest Scavenger Pit).

Yea, I imagine it would be easier but that comes with actually figuring out the thing which is the key to most of them. But I admit that I went for silver for most of them and never gave them a sho after.

I have only gold on scraps, drone race, and wings of gold. And those are the easiest.

Ohoni.6057:

My intention was to point out that you can get silver without any of the hyperbole in OP’s post. In fact, I almost walked the whole thing. I delibrately accounted for the complaints of not enough dexterity to perform the charges, accuracy in clicking, and latency— anyone can do it. If you think this video is bad and you could do better, then good for you. That was my point. Also this thread is just about silver.

Well, I just meant, you made a lot of tricky jumps and skillshot “#3” uses, when it’s actually easier to just use the #1 lightning jumps when they’re available. Seriously though, I don’t have gold on most of these, and don’t even have silver on many of them, but this one is about the second or third easiest to get gold on if you just go through the right motions (easiest is Wings of Gold, I think, second easiest Scavenger Pit).

You forgot Drone Race. Beetle Feast is also easy but you have to memorize some mushroom locations but that is just for gold, for silver you don’t need to memorize the locations.

Thought it a troll post at first, but i realize it probably isn’t. Anyway are you aware of the light globe mechanic along the way? The one that makes you jump to a fixed point further ahead? It’s really easy using those, there’s practically no jumping involved. Just click 1 before you hit then and they will do the rest

Khisanth.2948:

Dante.1508:

Obtena.7952:

Dante.1508:

Chaotic.9742:

Learning and overcoming something is part of a fun game experience,

No it is not.

That said my hands shake very badly and i have arthritis, my hand eye coordination will never get better, i’m personally ok with never getting a legendary, they are ugly as sin to me, but forcing such content to pass it is extremely unfair on those in my condition that ever did want them.

What ever happened to the original fun experience GW2 released as..

Oh how far we gamers have fallen. Did I actually read someone disagreeing that gaming is about learning and overcoming things? That’s a sad commentary on the state of gaming if that’s a common view.

I don’t play games for challenging content or feel the need to over come great issues, i play games casually to lay back and just go with the flow, games for me are for removing frustrations and tension not adding to it.

Do you watch a movie for a challenge and grind?

Most movies are not meant to be interactive.

Most games expect you to interact with it.

I do interact with my game, just not on a level the hard core elements want me too.

Being bad at games doesn’t make you eligible to get you a Legendary. Either accept that or try until you make it. There was a level in Mario Maker which took the player who succeeded it took 48 hours of trying. That’s what I call dedication. Getting silver in ley-line running is so kittening easy, really. If you can’t even do that, you aren’t eligible to get it. Alas a Legendary is a piece of achievement. Not just camping around and farming crap.

ProtoGunner.4953:

Being bad at games doesn’t make you eligible to get you a Legendary. Either accept that or try until you make it. There was a level in Mario Maker which took the player who succeeded it took 48 hours of trying. That’s what I call dedication. Getting silver in ley-line running is so kittening easy, really. If you can’t even do that, you aren’t eligible to get it. Alas a Legendary is a piece of achievement. Not just camping around and farming crap.

No a legendary is a padded out pixel toy grind that helped ruin Guildwars franchise, but nice try either way.

Malediktus.9250:

I am horrible with JPs, but the sad truth is that ley line run is one of the easiest adventure to get gold on. Silver should be a cake walk. If you cannot do this easy challenge you quite frankly do not deserve the legendary.
I also fail to see how you spent 100 hours on the collection (in addition to the gold for the materials). Doing the nevermore collections takes like 1 or 2 evenings if you have the materials.

Completely agree with this. I mean, i understand soloing hero points in Hot is hard and might be a pain in the kitten but this. This adventure might take 10 minutes tops to get silver on and it doesen’t even require any kind of reflex. There is no rush at all. Just walk a bit and press 1 into the yellow thingy, jump, walk a bit, press 3 a few times, and boom, your done. So my question is, did you even try? Or did you just fail once and then post this? Did you watch a video but couldn’t replicate the actions on your screen? When you meet a veteran in the open world do you also post it on the forums?

Soz just gets me mad when people complain about stuff without even trying.

wolfie.7296:

Obtena.7952:

The realistic answer is: I shouldn’t play tennis and if I did, realize how bad I am at it understanding that it would be unreasonable for someone to redefine tennis for me to win it, fooling myself into believing I can be good at it. It’s completely unrealistic and nonsensical.

I think grinding is a scam but each to their own I guess. I don’t associate grinding with casually playing tennis like you do. That is to say if you support the design of the game around “success” being the obtainable items, then you support the grinding scam because grinding is the game’s main feature.

Funny you associated my post with grinding … which it was not.

Dante.1508:

ProtoGunner.4953:

Being bad at games doesn’t make you eligible to get you a Legendary. Either accept that or try until you make it. There was a level in Mario Maker which took the player who succeeded it took 48 hours of trying. That’s what I call dedication. Getting silver in ley-line running is so kittening easy, really. If you can’t even do that, you aren’t eligible to get it. Alas a Legendary is a piece of achievement. Not just camping around and farming crap.

No a legendary is a padded out pixel toy grind that helped ruin Guildwars franchise, but nice try either way.

That’s right and you know what … people LOVE it … they will PAY to grind for that padded out pixel toy in any MMO that appeals to them, including GW2! It’s what the WHOLE MMO industry is based on. So before you pretend that there was some higher moral intention for the GW franchise as some superior alternative to standard, grindy MMO’s, stop yourself and repeat:

Anet is a business and will make content for the SOLE PURPOSE to make a profit.

Now that this nasty reality is re-established … the poster you responded to isn’t wrong. Maybe you don’t want to be challenged, OK, but don’t expect an MMO or any game for that matter, to be a good source of entertainment for you if your goal is to not be.

The adventures are really annoying. I don’t particulary enjoy it.

I have a hard time loggin in already. And when I log in, I’m doing something which is more annoying than fun.

Not to mention, when I’m finally hooked it’s night time in VB, and I logout.

enlightened.5396:

To the OP … I’m afraid it’s going to get worse for you.

I have everything required for Nevermore … apart from the fact that I need to max out the mastery chains. To do this you need a lost of mastery points. To get those you need to do a lot of Adventures. It’s taking me an age.

this is when I stopped before ever starting…. I thought you needed need silver AND gold from all (or at least most adventures) for the mastery points to buy the gifts that are also required? when I saw that, I said nope before I ever started…

Liston.9708:

enlightened.5396:

To the OP … I’m afraid it’s going to get worse for you.

I have everything required for Nevermore … apart from the fact that I need to max out the mastery chains. To do this you need a lost of mastery points. To get those you need to do a lot of Adventures. It’s taking me an age.

this is when I stopped before ever starting…. I thought you needed need silver AND gold from all (or at least most adventures) for the mastery points to buy the gifts that are also required? when I saw that, I said nope before I ever started…

You need to max out every HoT mastery line but that doesn’t require gold in everything. You also need silver in some adventures for the HoT legendaries for the collections. Nothing explicitly requires gold in an adventure. I finished Astralaria a while ago. I don’t have gold in any except the easy ones(salvage pit, drone race, ley line run, beetle feast). I have 4 extra HoT mastery points. The HoT story gives a nice chunk of mastery points even if you ignore the achievements.

The achievement based ones in DS are also easy, just need to tag each of the side events in each lane. You’ll be doing those events anyway if you are in DS for the meta.

Plus there’s a reasonable expectation that the LWs3 update will offer new Mastery points for completing it, so chances are that if you do those, you’ll have enough to max out your masteries without needing crazy Adventure scores.

enlightened.5396:

To the OP … I’m afraid it’s going to get worse for you.

I have everything required for Nevermore … apart from the fact that I need to max out the mastery chains. To do this you need a lost of mastery points. To get those you need to do a lot of Adventures. It’s taking me an age.

This^.

At least they tell you in advance you’ll need Ley Line run silver – it’s in the wiki.

The big problem you face is you need max masteries – which means you need a lot of mastery points, say 95% of them or so. And the adventures, at 2 points each for gold, are a large chunk of those (I don’t count the tens of millions of XP, that’s just DS run slogs, and they recently speeded up acquisition – thank you Anet!)

The good news is you don’t need all the adventures. I found Sanctum Scramble impossible, couldn’t even get bronze. Couldn’t get past silver in Shooting Gallery. A fungus among us looked easy in the vids, then found they had been posted by fighter pilots and it was anything but.

That said, I got through, even had one point more than I needed, and made Astralaria yesterday. But I’m afraid I counted Ley Line run one of the easy ones and was relieved to get gold in it – that’s 2 points to max masteries, check, move on – which impossible adventure is next?

Adventures silver/gold requirement should be nerfed a bit,we have leader boards to show the best players anyways can maybe give extra rewards for top 10 each month but it should be lot easier to get silver/gold as those adventure are forced on lot of clumsy people.

Killface.1896:

Adventures silver/gold requirement should be nerfed a bit,we have leader boards to show the best players anyways can maybe give extra rewards for top 10 each month but it should be lot easier to get silver/gold as those adventure are forced on lot of clumsy people.

How many mastery points do you need to get from Adventures to learn all Masteries?
Are legendaries supposed to be something that just anyone can get?
How long should you need to be practicing Adventures before you can get gold? Keep in mind it’s only asking for Silver.

I haven’t seen any challenges that took more than an hour’s worth of practice to hit Silver. I don’t think it’s unreasonable by any stretch of the imagination to put a legendary behind adventure completion, especially when they’re putting other items like daily completion and specialization weapons behind them.

If you cannot complete an adventure, look up a guide online and practice. How are you ever going to stop being ‘clumsy’ if you don’t practice?

Sarrs.4831:

Killface.1896:

Adventures silver/gold requirement should be nerfed a bit,we have leader boards to show the best players anyways can maybe give extra rewards for top 10 each month but it should be lot easier to get silver/gold as those adventure are forced on lot of clumsy people.

How many mastery points do you need to get from Adventures to learn all Masteries?
Are legendaries supposed to be something that just anyone can get?
How long should you need to be practicing Adventures before you can get gold? Keep in mind it’s only asking for Silver.

I haven’t seen any challenges that took more than an hour’s worth of practice to hit Silver. I don’t think it’s unreasonable by any stretch of the imagination to put a legendary behind adventure completion, especially when they’re putting other items like daily completion and specialization weapons behind them.

If you cannot complete an adventure, look up a guide online and practice. How are you ever going to stop being ‘clumsy’ if you don’t practice?

They are mini game that should not be required for legendary or anything important,just really bad design to have silver/gold timer required almost flawless run when they are required for core items,if they want to make really hard mini games like this just let them have there own AP tracker and rewards but dont force people to play it by mixing core items like legendary to them.

To be fair, I think there’s not enough variety in the mastery points. Better than Central Tyria but I save my rant for later.

And let’s not forget there’s a mastery point tied to getting bronze for all of VB, so that’s adventure related. Though it’s only bronze, I think we were better off adding one for VB and TD.

There’s also a number of issues with the non-adventures so I imagine people have less leeway. I though the Canopy over Pact Encampment Mastery point was absurd and far harder than any adventure— that’s really the only one where I actually quit and requested for someone to portal me.

OTOH, you really don’t need to be “good” at these things for quite a few of them. Just mechanic abuse.

Sarrs.4831:

Killface.1896:

Adventures silver/gold requirement should be nerfed a bit,we have leader boards to show the best players anyways can maybe give extra rewards for top 10 each month but it should be lot easier to get silver/gold as those adventure are forced on lot of clumsy people.

How many mastery points do you need to get from Adventures to learn all Masteries?

0 gold
13 silvers

Gold in some is easier than silver in others but realistically speaking that should be gold in 3 and silver in 10 if someone is going for a minimal adventures and it also depends a bit on the story achievements. Most of the points from the story just requires finishing the story so that is very easy.

Youngertwo.4956:

So I am more than 1k gold into Nevermore. I have also spent more than a hundred hours going to 100+ locations, waiting for obscure group events to spawn and traipsing back and forth across every zone.

I have 60/63 for Nevermore IV and have reached a hard stop. "Embody the Ley-Line Energy’ requires silver or better for The Ley-Line Run Adventure. It might as well be walking to the moon.

I am clumsy. Always have been. That is ok. I have many other gifts and can do most of the game well enough. I have completed a number of jumping puzzles and world completion a number of times.

I am ok with occasionally paying a mesmer for port, like https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Wall_Breach_Blitz and sometimes, with patience and repeated effort I can do them myself.

I am not a happy camper There was no warning that completing a timed race would be required. There is no other option for a work around, I am just unexpected stuck with no hope of progressing.

I want to either progress, or I want my gold and time back. Now, I have been playing games for about three decades at this point. So I realize that one person complaining on a forum, or even leaving a game entirely is not going to change anything.

However, I do think that the developers need to be loudly reminded that not everyone is a 13 year old with fighter pilot reflexes.

Drytop doesn’t work for me. I am ok with that. There were other level 80 zones available, and eventually Silverwastes came out which was better. I doubt that I will ever see the raid, and (again) I am ok with that. But many, MANY of us will not be able to be able to complete this adventure in the 90 seconds.

We could try a hundred, a thousand, or a hundred thousand tries. It isn’t going to change.

I suspect that many players will end up stuck here. People who have dedicated the time to complete ALL of the masteries, spent over 1000 gold, did map completion on all four of the new maps and then suddenly get stopped with an ugly ascended staff and no way to complete the project.

It is a good time for people to examine other game options.

This is directed to the op Work for 2 days and you will have your legendary. You are likely trying to waste months of your life for what you could have in 2 days. Legendary weapons are for those with USD.

This is definitely one of the easier activities.

I think OP and a few others complaining about lag w/e is actually just you using the wisp skill too late, you need to use it before being on the glowing circle that throws you in the air. once i figured that out it was a piece of cake, otherwise its easy to blame servers and lag/abilities not registering.