Guild Wars 2

Honestly feels that people take the low level area like a direct insult to their own intelligence. People have self esteem issues :/ point of low level area? To teach you the game.

As ground breaking it maybe I think the new TP needs more mouse clicks to sell or buy an item.

Yes they added more and took out some unneeded UI, but more clicks can be added to make new GW2 players understand the importance of a click.

Setting here thinking how daunting but highly necessary it maybe to master clicks for the new player… I believe mouse clicks should be reserved for level 30 and above… as an unlockable achievement of course.

I just LOVE this new patch. WHOOPY

Zoso.8279:

Honestly feels that people take the low level area like a direct insult to their own intelligence. People have self esteem issues :/ point of low level area? To teach you the game.

Except that the leveling changes don’t differentiate between low level characters created by brand new players and low level characters created by vets who want to start a new character for whatever reason. The two are not the same thing.

Not to mention that mostly everyone here figured out the level-gated mechanics LONG before the lvls that they’re gated at.

Zoso.8279:

80% of the people here complain because they like to complain. […] This game imo is the fastest game to level in but they are all “hardcore” gamers so they will attack anything that isn’t WoW (gear treadmill) or a game that forces you to have 5 skill bars open because THATS HARDCORE!!! YEAH!!!! HARDCORE!!!!! ( Hey I can be sarcastic too! Awesome! I never knew! )

Zoso.8279:

Honestly feels that people take the low level area like a direct insult to their own intelligence. People have self esteem issues :/ point of low level area? To teach you the game.

Since we’re being all positive here: I absolutely love how you try to convince others that their own opinion is wrongbad by casually insulting them. How very ANet of you!

Zoso.8279:

Coltz.5617:

Zoso.8279:

Coltz.5617:

Zoso.8279:

Vayne.8563:

It’s not just about making more sense. It’s about the feeling of progression you never really got before. A new person coming to this game from another MMO didn’t have a lot of bling in the leveling process.

So you know, your stats would go up every time you leveled, but nothing told you that happened. You used to be able to level without ever noticing. You can’t do that now. It always gives you something. There’s always something unlocking.

I’m guessing for a new player, it might be a bit more involving if nothing else.

And the speed to level to 15 has been dramatically increased, which doesn’t hurt me.

No point Vayne. Look at all the posts in this topic. 80% of the people here complain because they like to complain. People would focus on speed leveling through the game and then complain their is nothing to do. This game imo is the fastest game to level in but they are all “hardcore” gamers so they will attack anything that isn’t WoW (gear treadmill) or a game that forces you to have 5 skill bars open because THATS HARDCORE!!! YEAH!!!! HARDCORE!!!!! ( Hey I can be sarcastic too! Awesome! I never knew! )

Everyone is complaining on the their decision, presentation, planning, and thought process. Not the direction, You’d be in heavy denial if you think this is a great execution.

TP was fixed. Rangers fixed. You know whats annoying? When someone reads a build on a forum and comes here and gets owned because they don’t know HOW to run the build. The changes to leveling imo will help people with that problem. Just because you go to a forum and pick a build doesn’t mean you know how to use it correctly or when would be best times to us skills. Not everyone is born with the GREAT INTELLIGENCE that all the Q.Q here were born with. Honestly I’m sure a good portion of these people have bad W/L ratio in PvP because they don’t know how to run their build. LVL 100 with 30%/70% W/L ratios. And you level here then go to ANY OTHER MMO and level there and see who gets to level 80 1st.

People running around with other people’s builds not knowing anything. This situation is a flaw by design. Accessibility is of course welcomed but I honestly don’t think people are as.. In need of help as you imply. Taking more time to get to lvl 80 is fine and perhaps preferred for people that enjoyed the progression aspect more. However without the meat that fills the husk just getting to 80 slower or quicker is meaningless and pointless.

Well idk I think the point for low level areas is to learn the game and I think this update does just that. Neither you or I can say how much help a new player needs because we obviously are not new players. Looking back at when I started playing GW2 I didn’t feel a sense of direction now with this new patch you have those guides.

And can you please explain what “meat that fills the husk” means because I honestly don’t understand you on that one.

Yeah, the dodge tutorial really helped me personally — took me a little while to master though. I also love the fact you can’t die in the tutorial and can just AFK. They should just remove the downed state and death from the game until you reach level 80.

it’s always great to see the forums explode after each and every patch.

Fenar.4025:

Zoso.8279:

Coltz.5617:

Zoso.8279:

Coltz.5617:

Zoso.8279:

Vayne.8563:

It’s not just about making more sense. It’s about the feeling of progression you never really got before. A new person coming to this game from another MMO didn’t have a lot of bling in the leveling process.

So you know, your stats would go up every time you leveled, but nothing told you that happened. You used to be able to level without ever noticing. You can’t do that now. It always gives you something. There’s always something unlocking.

I’m guessing for a new player, it might be a bit more involving if nothing else.

And the speed to level to 15 has been dramatically increased, which doesn’t hurt me.

No point Vayne. Look at all the posts in this topic. 80% of the people here complain because they like to complain. People would focus on speed leveling through the game and then complain their is nothing to do. This game imo is the fastest game to level in but they are all “hardcore” gamers so they will attack anything that isn’t WoW (gear treadmill) or a game that forces you to have 5 skill bars open because THATS HARDCORE!!! YEAH!!!! HARDCORE!!!!! ( Hey I can be sarcastic too! Awesome! I never knew! )

Everyone is complaining on the their decision, presentation, planning, and thought process. Not the direction, You’d be in heavy denial if you think this is a great execution.

TP was fixed. Rangers fixed. You know whats annoying? When someone reads a build on a forum and comes here and gets owned because they don’t know HOW to run the build. The changes to leveling imo will help people with that problem. Just because you go to a forum and pick a build doesn’t mean you know how to use it correctly or when would be best times to us skills. Not everyone is born with the GREAT INTELLIGENCE that all the Q.Q here were born with. Honestly I’m sure a good portion of these people have bad W/L ratio in PvP because they don’t know how to run their build. LVL 100 with 30%/70% W/L ratios. And you level here then go to ANY OTHER MMO and level there and see who gets to level 80 1st.

People running around with other people’s builds not knowing anything. This situation is a flaw by design. Accessibility is of course welcomed but I honestly don’t think people are as.. In need of help as you imply. Taking more time to get to lvl 80 is fine and perhaps preferred for people that enjoyed the progression aspect more. However without the meat that fills the husk just getting to 80 slower or quicker is meaningless and pointless.

Well idk I think the point for low level areas is to learn the game and I think this update does just that. Neither you or I can say how much help a new player needs because we obviously are not new players. Looking back at when I started playing GW2 I didn’t feel a sense of direction now with this new patch you have those guides.

And can you please explain what “meat that fills the husk” means because I honestly don’t understand you on that one.

Yeah, the dodge tutorial really helped me personally — took me a little while to master though. I also love the fact you can’t die in the tutorial and can just AFK. They should just remove the downed state and death from the game until you reach level 80.

Personally, I got a portal through the dodge tutorial. I kept getting knocked down when I tried to get the chest. Frustrating to say the least.

I got something to say to you …

i love you.. don’t change ever..

Really, the changes arent for your leveling an alt, but for newcomers trying the game for the first time.

I haven’t stared an alt since the change, but the question is: for someone who knows absolutely nothing of the game, is this an improved experience over how it went before? It very well might be. It’s easy to ignore that when you just want to speed level an alt.

I dont +1 people alot…but you really deserve it,lol.

Stephapanda.5804:

Fenar.4025:

Zoso.8279:

Coltz.5617:

Zoso.8279:

Coltz.5617:

Zoso.8279:

Vayne.8563:

It’s not just about making more sense. It’s about the feeling of progression you never really got before. A new person coming to this game from another MMO didn’t have a lot of bling in the leveling process.

So you know, your stats would go up every time you leveled, but nothing told you that happened. You used to be able to level without ever noticing. You can’t do that now. It always gives you something. There’s always something unlocking.

I’m guessing for a new player, it might be a bit more involving if nothing else.

And the speed to level to 15 has been dramatically increased, which doesn’t hurt me.

No point Vayne. Look at all the posts in this topic. 80% of the people here complain because they like to complain. People would focus on speed leveling through the game and then complain their is nothing to do. This game imo is the fastest game to level in but they are all “hardcore” gamers so they will attack anything that isn’t WoW (gear treadmill) or a game that forces you to have 5 skill bars open because THATS HARDCORE!!! YEAH!!!! HARDCORE!!!!! ( Hey I can be sarcastic too! Awesome! I never knew! )

Everyone is complaining on the their decision, presentation, planning, and thought process. Not the direction, You’d be in heavy denial if you think this is a great execution.

TP was fixed. Rangers fixed. You know whats annoying? When someone reads a build on a forum and comes here and gets owned because they don’t know HOW to run the build. The changes to leveling imo will help people with that problem. Just because you go to a forum and pick a build doesn’t mean you know how to use it correctly or when would be best times to us skills. Not everyone is born with the GREAT INTELLIGENCE that all the Q.Q here were born with. Honestly I’m sure a good portion of these people have bad W/L ratio in PvP because they don’t know how to run their build. LVL 100 with 30%/70% W/L ratios. And you level here then go to ANY OTHER MMO and level there and see who gets to level 80 1st.

People running around with other people’s builds not knowing anything. This situation is a flaw by design. Accessibility is of course welcomed but I honestly don’t think people are as.. In need of help as you imply. Taking more time to get to lvl 80 is fine and perhaps preferred for people that enjoyed the progression aspect more. However without the meat that fills the husk just getting to 80 slower or quicker is meaningless and pointless.

Well idk I think the point for low level areas is to learn the game and I think this update does just that. Neither you or I can say how much help a new player needs because we obviously are not new players. Looking back at when I started playing GW2 I didn’t feel a sense of direction now with this new patch you have those guides.

And can you please explain what “meat that fills the husk” means because I honestly don’t understand you on that one.

Yeah, the dodge tutorial really helped me personally — took me a little while to master though. I also love the fact you can’t die in the tutorial and can just AFK. They should just remove the downed state and death from the game until you reach level 80.

Personally, I got a portal through the dodge tutorial. I kept getting knocked down when I tried to get the chest. Frustrating to say the least.

I kept dodging backwards. How do you go forwards?

Bellizare.5816:

I kept dodging backwards. How do you go forwards?

Default, it’s double-tap forward. You can turn off doubletap and then it’s “dodge + direction” otherwise it’s a default backroll.

This video also summarizes all the great changes in this new feature pack.

You level up faster so vets should be happy. New players have a better way of understanding the game. The real issue here is people not being able to key farm and complaining about it under other reasons. With this new system if your creating an alt you can level him faster! I think more key farmers here then anything else.

Zoso.8279:

You level up faster so vets should be happy. New players have a better way of understanding the game. The real issue here is people not being able to key farm and complaining about it under other reasons. With this new system if your creating an alt you can level him faster! I think more key farmers here then anything else.

Did you watch the video?

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Zoso.8279:

You level up faster so vets should be happy. New players have a better way of understanding the game. The real issue here is people not being able to key farm and complaining about it under other reasons. With this new system if your creating an alt you can level him faster! I think more key farmers here then anything else.

Did you watch the video?

Many more times than i wanted and it doesn’t ever change. Needs a feature pack ASAP.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Zoso.8279:

You level up faster so vets should be happy. New players have a better way of understanding the game. The real issue here is people not being able to key farm and complaining about it under other reasons. With this new system if your creating an alt you can level him faster! I think more key farmers here then anything else.

Did you watch the video?

No i leveled a toon.

Ok, I expected sarcasm and got it.

Zoso.8279:

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Zoso.8279:

You level up faster so vets should be happy. New players have a better way of understanding the game. The real issue here is people not being able to key farm and complaining about it under other reasons. With this new system if your creating an alt you can level him faster! I think more key farmers here then anything else.

Did you watch the video?

No i leveled a toon.

i guess candy crush is YOUR game eh?

Zoso.8279:

You know whats annoying? When someone reads a build on a forum and comes here and gets owned because they don’t know HOW to run the build. The changes to leveling imo will help people with that problem. Just because you go to a forum and pick a build doesn’t mean you know how to use it correctly or when would be best times to us skills.

How does expanding the time it takes to get all of your ability unlocks automatically mean you’re going to be better equipped to understand a level 80 build that you didn’t understand before?

You know why people have problems with builds they crib from other people? Because they don’t read the 7-10 abilities and learn how to use those completely. You know what isn’t going to help with that? Making the experience of unlocking those ability slots excruciatingly painful.

Unless they build a tutorial for every single skill that every single class can unlock, then more tutorials aren’t going to help you understand endgame build if you don’t already understand how to play your class that you spent 80 levels (hopefully) learning to play.

I’m a flipper, I adore the way Anet has helped my undercutting. I am thrilled that I have undercut myself 5 times already this morning without even knowing. Really impressed with that!

Nappa says, “Vegeta what does the scouter say about its sarcasm level?”

Vegeta says, “Ugh there is no way. It’s over 9000!!!!!”