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Posted by: Peacenote.1698

Peacenote.1698

I do not RP. But I can’t for the life of me figure out why RPer’s wouldn’t be catered to or even favored by a game that thrives off of gem sales for cosmetic effects, additional character slots, etc.

And I’m noticing a disturbing trend with the direction of some of these changes, like the megaserver system, boss schedule, and the town clothes into tonics deal. The more freedom we have as a community, the more options, and the more flexibility we have to make the game community fun and creative and suit more play-styles, the better. I really prefer the “play the way you want” philosophy as opposed to the “play the way we think you should play” direction.

A lot of this April 15th update seems like really good ideas being released prematurely because there was pressure to get SOMETHING out as opposed to taking the time to implement everything properly. I have no doubt that all the devs are working really hard, and excited about the concepts they are introducing, and I WANT to be excited. Either we are being pushed towards a more streamlined, limited playstyle (sad), devs were rushed to take the easy way out (outfit tonics, etc) – especially because this update seems slow compared to the regular LS updates, or the groundwork is being laid for some cool stuff that will be built on top of the new base, but we aren’t being given a peek of what that might be.

If it’s 1, I won’t be around much longer, I fear. If it’s 2, let me say that I’m more than happy to wait for the additional development to get complete solutions. If it’s 3, I’d love to get some confirmation that this is the case, and that cool new things are being planned for RPer’s, people in small guilds, people who play off hours, people who love feeling like they are impacting the virtual world, etc.

In any case, I’d like to say that I love GW2, so PLEASE listen to your satisfied customers and don’t change it beyond recognition. There’s a reason this is the most vocal I’ve ever been on the forums. Up until now, I was playing the game instead of writing about it.

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Posted by: Star Ace.5207

Star Ace.5207

I don’t struggle, I usually just roleplay alone or even with unknowns hoping they will roleplay back. I have NEVER since headstart been griefed or mocked on AR for role-playing my characters. Is Anvil Rock anything close to a RP server? Many players don’t even do PvE there, which is my main focus in the game. I do PvE as my own character’s little quests, and am excited (unlike many) with open world PvE and events. Nothing prohibits me from role playing in AR. Nothing shall prohibit me from roleplaying in whatever map I end up in the upcoming mega-server-roleplayers roleplay no matter what, even without this game’s beautiful graphics, (arguably) skins, and scenery.

That’s what I was saying. In my mind the Mega server would increase the chances of Rp’ing and getting a favorable response.

Roleplaying in your head is not the same as a dynamic community of like-minded players. I appreciate what you’re saying, but it’s not the same.

To clarify, (concerns about server identity being trashed aside) the RPers are simply worried about being able to find each other. From what we have been told it does not appear that mega server will be able to group this community because there is no metric by which to do so.

The closest “flag” is being on one of the unofficial RP servers. But a lot of people used to guest over. Unless something changes, those people are S.O.L.

The mega server breaks so much to fill some empty maps: server identity gone, asinine event schedules in a “living” world, breaking up of informal communities that were not accounted for by the higher ups.

All people are asking for is a wee bit of control in how the mega server will place them…beyond original home server and guild. (I swear, that “guild up” comment by Colin is so ignorant of this community and how it functions. I know he meant well…)

The oft-mentioned flag system would be a welcome olive branch and soothe a lot of nerves.

I have always roleplayed in a non RP server. Never been griefed. I already mentioned it. Don’t dismiss me for not being part of your favorite servers/communities (yes, that’s totally how it read-"your opinion as a RPer doesn’t count because you are not part of the “real us”).

ANet doesn’t “hate” or “dismisses” the RP community, and I would surely feel less inclined to do anything about it if I was ANet and was being insulted and threatened to “roleplay elsewhere” from just trying to improve the game at large. Your needs ARE important, but so are others, including the future of the game which you have played for some time now.

Global changes won’t even take effect as soon as I wish. I do NOT want to hurt RPers, as I am one, but can’t wait for the mega server to become global. It WILL make the game better for all of those people, RPers or otherwise, stuck in small population servers for PvE ventures, despite the random algorithm element. Think outside Tarnished Coast/Piken Square terms.

And as for “new players that want to roleplay won’t be able to find people to roleplay with” NO ONE can limit a role player but himself/herself. Either you don’t consider me a “tr00 RPer”, or you don’t think RPing is possible outside the “venerated grounds” of the unofficial RP servers (I see it as an issue of server identity pride OR extreme fear of the unknown, really.)

Best of luck with the implementation of the Megaserver. Hope you can continue to have fun RPing once it becomes global-I know I will.

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Posted by: Cercie.1025

Cercie.1025

Well seeing as this post is several pages behind now, all we can do is wait and see what happens in the next few days. Anet at least has one person that recognises RPers exist, but since there isn’t anything “official” for them, the likely hood of them getting something all their own was never high to begin with.

The community will survive, but as sounds, it will be more difficult for different rp guilds to interact with eachother. Which might be worked around by having a community rp guild everyone belongs to, if they get no rp flag. They could switch to that guild, join a zone and switch back to whatever guild they like. It’s more annoying, but may be a viable option if RPers get completely ignored. New players who want to rp will still be wandering aimlessly until they are found by another.

It may be possible that rpers who frequent the same areas may never meet unless they’re in the same guild which destroys immersion. If two RP events are happening at the same time in the same area, and RPers are scattered between them, the cohesion of RP story lines immediately goes up in smoke. This is probably the biggest disadvantage to how RP and the Megaserver will get along. Even if one RP event is happening, and you just don’t happen to be in the guild hosting it yet or are considering it ‘in character’ your chances to be in the right instance at the right time is iffy.

Community RP guilds should consider merging so people are aware of which one to join to stay together (hopefully).

Other random ideas

1. RP instance of a zone.
2. Increasing number of guilds one can belong to. (4 is already enough in most cases. 5 would better find and merge community rp guilds that are already forming)

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Posted by: VoiceOfUnreason.5976

VoiceOfUnreason.5976

Logged into Black Citadel, saw that Megaservers were indeed implemented there (I thought the post said they wouldn’t be). Saw fellow Tarnished Coast players along with other servers. Noticed that I was not in the same instance as my guild, so I partied with one member and joined his instance. Noticed TC people here as well.

So, not more than 5 minutes into logging in I’ve found that megaservers DID in fact split TC’s playerbase like I feared. It DID NOT group me with my guild like they said it would. So far so… very, very, bad.

*Edit: So far my guild mates have been split up across 4 different versions of Black Citadel.

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Posted by: VoiceOfUnreason.5976

VoiceOfUnreason.5976

Are you sure you guys actually have metrics determining ANYTHING? Are you sure this isn’t just straight up overflow? Because now I don’t see any TCers at all, my guild is entirely on a different server, and the only person that I recognize is the one that I was partied with on entering the city.

It seems to me, if a map happens to be even remotely popular, or if it happens to be a busy night, your whole megaserver system just breaks down into a bunch of overflows.

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Posted by: DragoTheWise.7256

DragoTheWise.7256

Yeah… I thought, according to the patch notes, that this was just going to start in the PvP lobby? What happened? Did Anet change their minds at the last minute?

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Posted by: Louveepine.7630

Louveepine.7630

The mixture is not possible. Unable to find his friends that his server had chosen not to be mixed with others.

In France, we can not fully ralier a French server, you end up with tons of people that are not comprent language.

Bring normal server, please!

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Posted by: VoiceOfUnreason.5976

VoiceOfUnreason.5976

Guild Up.™ didn’t work at all Colin. So what are we supposed to do now? kitten it, right? Every single fear not only justified, but actually far worse than I thought it would be.

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Posted by: Phantom.8130

Phantom.8130

Guild Up.™ didn’t work at all Colin. So what are we supposed to do now? kitten it, right? Every single fear not only justified, but actually far worse than I thought it would be.

whatever happens, i can only say: do NOT got to Wildstar. it’s another NCSoft product, so it’ll just be more of the same there. Except there, you’ll have to pay a subscription fee for them to neglect you. Personally, I recommend TSW or CO. They’re both pretty decent games that have dwindled down to mostly just RPers left. A sudden influx of a few thousand RPers would do wonders for both of them.

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Posted by: zwierz.9012

zwierz.9012

So they have went back on their word?

Gotta go check myself… If it’s true, it’s bad news indeed.

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Posted by: Peacenote.1698

Peacenote.1698

Are you sure this isn’t just straight up overflow?

That’s what I was thinking.

When I logged in, I got a message saying I was being placed in overflow. Gendarran Fields. Doesn’t that mean the megaserver isn’t everywhere yet, because we won’t get overflow messages after megaserver?

I figured it was just more people logging in than normal to check out the patch.

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Posted by: DragoTheWise.7256

DragoTheWise.7256

Gendarren doesn’t seem affected, but the cities are. That much is for certain.

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Posted by: Star Ace.5207

Star Ace.5207

Well, I was happy to see roleplayers around.

It’s actually rather annoying to me, because it feels selfish that some people want to have an “RP server monopoly”, where their server and guildies needs are more important than anyone else’s. Please put yourself in place of those players who have always been in non-RP servers while favoring an RP style. It’s good news for them, and they are indeed even a smaller minority than you think you are. So in a way, I see it as ANet doing something right rather than actively seeking to “destroy” RP communities.

In short, there’s more to GW2 than the unofficial RP servers-other players, other roleplayers not part of your direct community, and finally, the future of the game. The inclusive nature of the megaserver is actually rather fantastic as I have already previewed.

Would I feel differently if I was an original TC member? Perhaps, but maybe not, because I would also think: “how would a non-TC RPer would feel about this change? Perhaps we could even meet each other!”

Don’t assume that every roleplayer resides or guests all the time to unofficial RP servers, please. And give people the benefit of the doubt, rather than prejudging them as “trolls” for not being part of those servers-it’s disrespectful to judge people’s characters without knowing them beforehand.

I don’t mean to sound rude, but it does feel as too much of an issue is being made out of it. Of course it can be inconvenient at times, but even when I guested on TC, I usually got an overflow, so it was always possible even then that you won’t meet your friends in your own server (not to mention there are plenty of non-RPers residing over there.)

I do hope they address your issues, but from there to saying that the megaserver is “bad for the game” or “disrespectful to RPers”, I resolutely disagree, because I don’t feel disrespected, but rather even more encouraged to RP.

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Posted by: Parrillian.6104

Parrillian.6104

So, I never go to Forums to post. But this while thing is a giant screw up. I’m actually impressed that Anet has managed to not figure out how all this is messing up peoples enjoyment of the game. And with the giant pile of negative feedback I hope they’ll notice. Groups like TTS utilized the old Overflow system for being able to do runs properly, I’m not sure how they are going to do that anymore. Then us rpers are going to have immence trouble doing something we love, have a passion for. Rp is a huge investment, a life within a life. Whole tales woven through multiple people, creating great stories that thrive and grow. Peoples characters are people, they live, breath, exist to there writers and others. It is a massive investment for fun and something these people love with so much of there heart. We grow attached to their friends, relationships, the stories that unfold. Being able to experience things that we can’t in person elsewhere. Experience this grand world Anet has created. It has such great Lore, making it possible for us to create beautiful and expansive stories. People grow from Rp, we learn things, values, new philosophies. So many things about life. It, especially to me isn’t a game. Rping is a lifestyle, a lifestyle of a weaver of tales. Being able to experience more then normal due to it. I love rping in Guild wars, I’ve learned so much, woven great tales with my character, touched so many hearts. I don’t want that to end, that part of my life. But, if the Megaservers continue to split us all up, fracture our community it’ll happen and that saddens me greatly.

Everything I’ve read so far in peoples feedback, and ingame has been negative about the Megaservers. I’ve though critically about how the new timers will effect peoples enjoyment. How those that work won’t be able to enjoy so much that they loved here. I used to do a lot of events and such, was able to hit them up after Rping. Due to the old timers for the bosses. But now? I won’t be able to hit so many that I enjoyed. People are going to leave, people who loved fighting the big bosses, those that loved to organize massive guild events. Because it is going to become too difficult for them to do it. To get everyone together, or to even find the time to fight the boss in there sceduale. This whole thing is a mess and will destroy your game Anet, the community is what makes the game thrive. Chasing them off and crushing them will only bring your own downfall. This effects all your players, not just the rp community.

Also the Townclothes changes were foolish, I don’t know what you have planed but the outrage about it so far has been massive. People don’t want refunds, they want to be able to enjoy what they used to be able too. Part of this game is being pretty, being able to enjoy mix and matching. You just took that away from us in a major way.

I do hope you are all listening to everyone’s feedback, so far it does not. So little communication with the passionate playerbase you have. We love your game, we just want to be able to enjoy it and have fun. And, support you at the same time. We can’t do that if we lose our ability to have fun Anet. We just can’t.

I do hope this is all reverted, it is unfortunate all of you at Anet didn’t talk to the playerbase months ago while development of the Megaserver system started, this all could’ve been prevented.

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Posted by: Darmikau.9413

Darmikau.9413

The TC RP community in the Black Citadel (Where megaservers are live) is completely split. All the RP groups are being filtered into various servers, and all the popular RP spots are packed with non-RPers.

RP has not been considered at all, and this system is shameful.

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Posted by: WereScrib.7154

WereScrib.7154

This… honestly. Really hurts. I logged into the Black Citadel. I have multiple friends, all of us are in multiple same guilds…? Guess what. None of us were in any of the others Black Citadels.

There was one other TC person on.

I was voicing that RP seems pretty dead here, and what happened? Hordes of people in all chat kittening at me for ‘roleplaying’ and telling me to go larp.

Yay.

GG NO RP RIP CARNISHED TOAST.

I’m sorry. But if it can’t even reliable slot us with people who are not only on our friendslist, but in ~Multiple~ guilds and part of the same server, I don’t know what else to say. This is crap, and along with the town clothes changes I just don’t want to play anymore.

I understand Rata Sum and the Grove were just as bad. The only places spared were Gendarran and Divinity’s Reach as they don’t seem to be part of the Megaserver bullkitten.

Seriously. I hope this is reverted. This entire patch has felt like a huge kick in the groin to everyone who ever roleplayed. Seriously. I don’t have a friend who isn’t thinking about quitting the game, or who hasn’t already just decided to go buy ESO or renew their WoW subscription. Even one of my friends who JUST got back to RP in GW2 is saying that he’s probably done.

I don’t know what to do, and I’m just miserable. I can’t see a solution to this. Because to be honest? I don’t think there is any way any of this is going to be reversed. The fact is most of the GW2 community is giddy about megaservers. Unfortunately, its killed Tarnished Coast.

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Posted by: Louveepine.7630

Louveepine.7630

@ Star Ace.5207

How do you roliser when you do not speak at all the same language as the neighbor?

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Posted by: Electro.4173

Electro.4173

Wait, the megaserver is actually live in cities? I thought they were just putting it in the Heart of the Mists to start.

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Posted by: kuscheldrow.6415

kuscheldrow.6415

Well… I logged in standing in the grove on what I thought was Riverside (GER) and guess what? Everyone spoke English… So much for being sorted with your server’s people AND language.

Yeah, the cities are full again, yeah we did indeed have some fun. But No, RP isn’t possible anymore. The good point is, that people will eventually stop using the /em for RP (it really hurts my eyes xD Should have a brighter color imho) because everyone is spaming random emotes in it, the worse is, well… there hardly aren’t any RPers on these random-worse-than-overflow maps…

So server and subcomunities ARE divided randomly… This hurts the most, really. I’ll check the 13:30 Tequatl out today, but I’m expectiing the worst, really… So Bosskills may be exclusive to large guilds and their friends plus a few lucky ones that were there on accident in the future…

Trahearne <3

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Posted by: Kravick.4906

Kravick.4906

I went looking for RP today. I was on pretty much all day. All my friends kept getting put in different instances. Couldn’t get anyone together long enough to stay interested. Between my friends being so upset that they couldn’t stay logged in, and others just flat out rage quitting for good (so they say), I can’t say I’ve enjoyed this update.

I’m calling the megaserver system a failure for roleplayers. Its probably amazing for your bottom line, though. What with all the servers you get to scrap and sell, or move over to Wildstar, or whatever it is you’re doing with them. I figure thats what this really was about. NCSoft wanting to streamline their revenue, so they’re cutting back on server space, and told you to do it by any means necessary.

Had three people just straight up tell me they’re done. One said they’re staying permanently on ESO, and the other two are going to EQNext when it shows up. I have no idea what I’m going to do. None of the other MMOs really interest me. However, the RP in GW2 is the only thing keeping me logging in. Yes, I’m a gem buyer. Go ahead and look at my account history. I’ve probably spent way more money that I should have. This will change when the RP dies for me and it becomes too troublesome for me to get my friends together in one area like it was today. The PVE and PVP in this game no longer interest me. Its impossible to farm components for legendaries in this game so theres no reason for me to do PVE content. WvW is still the same, and that capture the node thing you added a few months back hasn’t changed anything about WvW. Its all the same, so PVP is now stale and boring to me. I’ve never had any interest in sPVP. Found it boring as hell from the very beginning. I put only enough effort into it to get my Champion Phantom title and that was it.

TLDR: Once RP dies for me, I’ll stop caring and not play this game any more.

Stuff goes here.

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Posted by: Biohazard.7523

Biohazard.7523

Calm down people, they are working on it… I am sure that after some long period of time they will fix what is broken.. You just need to wait. Thats how they roll, slow and steady.

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Posted by: Wolfheart.1879

Wolfheart.1879

Calm down people, they are working on it… I am sure that after some long period of time they will fix what is broken.. You just need to wait. Thats how they roll, slow and steady.

Slow and steady? As in so slow and steady they rushed out an announcement, got pages upon pages of the potential issues, turned tail on a penny and altered the rollout a little, only for it to still be a huge mess to those who value their world community/ability to connect with RP. So steady that the pitiful advice to RPers to guarantee playing with their peers (which also happily ignored what a lot of RP is about) seems to not only be incredibly ignorant of a community within their game, but also about as useful as a chocolate teapot.

Seems they haven’t rolled slow and steady. Seemed the rolled down a steep hill very fast and who cares about the consequences.

I do not trust Anet to support RPers, acknowledge them or even comment on the criticism offered here or elsewhere. . Much better for them to just pretend we don’t exist. What a group of clearly valued customers we are!

Divinity’s Reach is home to some top-tier criminal masterminds.
The kind of people who will set an orphanage on fire after locking themselves inside it.

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Posted by: lakdav.3694

lakdav.3694

Moved my GW2 RP to Skype a few months back with a few friends. Not at all visual, but much better than this i bet. At least our writing skill is getting better, and we have little restraint in what we can do. Had a boat trip the other week where we were attacked by a risen galleon. Where would you play that in the game?

Actually, where would you RP anything with your friends now without a massive headache each time?

The alternative that we are looking at is this fully randomised Megaserver kitten. Call me elitist RPer, but im better off.

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Posted by: Asacledhae.2650

Asacledhae.2650

Probably an annoyed post to say the least, but i approve.. So i’ll simply remind you, dear Anet, that RPlayers are the ones who actually use the Gem store at most. We may be a minority in your eyes, but non-RPlayers won’t usually bother with vanity items, or toys.. Yes, i say usually, as there are exceptions. To a RPlayer, appearance is of utmost importance, and with your brand new wardrobe system, you encourage us RPlayers to spend real money on armor skins, so we can mix and match to our heart’s desire.. But what do you do in reply to that? You rip off our worlds, mix them, and take away a community’s fun.

Today i accidentally got into the Black Citadel with my thief and a friend, as our RP event led us there. People there were kind enough to spam every chat available with “lol” posts, dance and emote spams, and one was kind enough to “IC’ly” kill my character using a lead pipe, then simply tell me : “get a life you ….. nerd”..

You’re supposed to have FUN RPlaying in a MMO RPG game, not being afraid to do so. With your megaserver, you simply feeding the trolls. So a big thank you my dear Anet, for making what keeps me into the game almost impossible to do.

The irony, is that i’ve been supporting you guys with lots of Gem store purchases, even from day one. Even with silly items. I wasn’t forced to do so, and you know it. You even gave me some presents to thank me, including Minis, and a Kite. And i kept supporting you, every step of the way.. And yet what you do? You take a knife, and stab me in the back in the worst possible way.

It’s not too late, REVERT this megaserver… Keep it away from the major cities, keep it away from starting areas, they’re filled with enough people already! Why don’t you keep it for PvP and in areas like Orr who NEED players, instead of this?

@Biohazard : You know, other games have a PTS (Public TEST SERVER) for stuff like these, allowing the community to test a radical change before adding it to the live servers. That way bugs are reported, and all this “anger” as you say is avoided. And then, the bug-free (at most) patch goes to the live server smoothly. So i’m sorry, but the “they’re working on it” excuse doesn’t give them credit.

The reasons we love the new downgra…..er….feature patch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-On3Ya0_4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqJlKjwrKB4

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Posted by: Kravick.4906

Kravick.4906

Moved my GW2 RP to Skype a few months back with a few friends. Not at all visual, but much better than this i bet. At least our writing skill is getting better, and we have little restraint in what we can do. Had a boat trip the other week where we were attacked by a risen galleon. Where would you play that in the game?

Actually, where would you RP anything with your friends now without a massive headache each time?

The alternative that we are looking at is this fully randomised Megaserver kitten. Call me elitist RPer, but im better off.

Its funny, some of my friends are also doing this, but for other reasons, and in order to keep RPing with them, I’ve had to resort to the same thing. Its not ideal for me because I love the surprise element that comes with certain kinds of RP, and it prevents you from being able to meet new and interesting RPers.

Sadly, this might end up becoming more of a norm. I had to finish out an RP today on Skype because this mega server thing was not co-operating with us and allowing all of our members to be in the same area.

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Posted by: medohgeuh.4650

medohgeuh.4650

I must still be missing something because I’m sitting in Black Citadel right now and it’s as dead as always with no signs of any megaserver happenings.

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Posted by: UncleOris.1892

UncleOris.1892

This just screams not only ignorance but also pure undignified arrogance, to me.

The RP-Community has been so nice about you destroying their community it’s actually hilarious to me that you just went around and gave them the finger, right in their collective faces as they looked upon you in awe.

You didn’t even have to implement a tagging system, like they wanted – So your crazy flawed system could at least try to group them together. All you had to do is leave the big citys alone.

That’s literally all you had to do. But nope, screw that noise, let’s just go balls deep. I seriously hope the RP’ers are giving you the finger in return and take their money elsewhere.

This whole scene, from start to finish, is a disgrace.

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Posted by: Synesh.1094

Synesh.1094

I have one suggestion about this issue.

Give us all a choice. This is what I feel lacks and is now being taken from us who enjoy the Role Play and from those who hate it.

It’s all about the fact that now both sides are forced into a mash up of a map. Leaving the Role Players with less free, and also making more likely for the people that don’t like roleplay to meet us while they are farming.

This pleases no one, at least on medioum and high poluation servers. If this could be directed to only low population servers while leaving the old system active for the rest, then this would work. Now? It doesn’t because it forces different communieties to clash with each other while at the same time diving them.

It won’t take long before a RP event clashes with a PVE Guild event, and then both sides will be at each others throat saying that they ruining their fun while also filling space that could be used by members of one of the two sides.

In the end what we miss is the choice and the freedom to decide on our own the experience we like most. This could be easly fixed by giving the players the possibility to chose on which map we’d like to be. Maybe Rata Sum 1 is too crowded. All right maybe I can move to Rata Sum 7 and bring my friends there.

This is what we need, a system like the one in Guild Wars 1 that allowed us to chose where to go when we want. And if you could name one of this sub map as “Role Play” this would be HUGE.

And by huge I mean huge. Right now Role players on gw2 had always to adapt, the simple fact that there’s no main RP server was always a problem. In time Piken Square and TC managed to fill that hole but they are not recognized by the game.
This is where the issue lies, we roleplayers, a part of the community feel like we are costantly given the short end of the stick and we have only to work around it.

The simple fact, of giving us a sub server named for Role Play would the sign that Anet cares a little bit about us. That sign that they appreciate our way to enjoy the game and want to support it.

But as it is right now we feel like we’ve been booted and many are saying they’ll move to another MMO or never spend Real money on the gem store.
And if the roleplay keeps being crippled like this, I may follow them somewhere also. And this brings me only sadness.

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Posted by: zwierz.9012

zwierz.9012

I’m very, very disgruntled right now… While I will continue to play the game, I’m not buying a single gem with real money anymore. Oh well, I’ll wait a month or three and get myself a new PC with that money instead (Yes, I spend around 100 euro/month on gems. Well, not anymore I don’t!)

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Posted by: Asacledhae.2650

Asacledhae.2650

I have one suggestion about this issue.
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I’ve been “Ranting” about the exact same option since i learned about the megaserver. Let’s hope that the more we become, the faster they’ll hear…

The reasons we love the new downgra…..er….feature patch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-On3Ya0_4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqJlKjwrKB4

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Posted by: UncleOris.1892

UncleOris.1892

The thing is: They heard you already. They heard you loud and clear.

They just don’t care about you.

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Posted by: Synesh.1094

Synesh.1094

I’d like to add how I feel about this situation for those that don’t get it.

Right now the megaserver on the main hub cities feels like as a schoolbus just busted through my house door and a bunch of teenagers are making a party in my house with alchool and hookers. While I was trying to relax, have a tea and read some Tolkien. And on top of that some at time call me a nerd for reading it.

It is a silly comparison but it’s not that far away from the truth. It’s not the nail in the coffin for RP yet. But the feeling of abbandon could very well be.

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Posted by: lakdav.3694

lakdav.3694

It is a silly comparison but it’s not that far away from the truth. It’s not the nail in the coffin for RP yet. But the feeling of abbandon could very well be.

To go with your metaphors, there will be no coffin anyway. The corpse will be left unattended, waiting for time and exposure to the hostile elements to claim it back into the soil.

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Posted by: Phantom.8130

Phantom.8130

Probably an annoyed post to say the least

Sadly…. no, I wasn’t really annoyed. If you check back through my posting history, I’ve been calling them out on this for at least a year now. I’m also a WvW player, and have been calling them out on their identical behavior on that front as well. I’ve seen enough of how Anet behaves to have seen this one coming a mile away, as it’s the same pattern they’ve displayed at every possible opportunity. They’ve taken the two most stable and long lasting playerbases in ALL MMOs, and treated them like they’re nothing. At best, they’ve given some lip service, or false promises (check out the threads with Dev posts in the WvW section, they’re very telling), but have failed to deliver. What’s worse, is that when they ask for community input, they always go about doing the exact opposite of what the community asks for (see the CDI on Population imbalances).

Anet is great at hype, but abysmal at delivering on that hype. They act like defiant children and do the opposite of what’s asked or requested. They push things out without even a second of forethought. They sacrifice the long term in favor of turning their game into a giant tourist trap. They refuse to fix severely broken aspects of their game that has been around since at least the betas, even when a Dev is caught in a screenshot being subjected to it, and then turn around and try to lay the blame on the community (Hugh glitching through a gate in WvW, then saying the countless reports and videos delivered to them were unclear on what the problem is, and at least 6 months later, that glitch STILL hasn’t been fixed). Their egos run very high, even though they don’t really have a whole lot to be proud of here.

This isn’t anything new for them. In fact, it really is par for the course. The deeper you look into it, the worse they turn out to be. There were telltale signs at launch that they had no idea what they were doing, but they could be given the benefit of the doubt. As time has gone on, their true colors became harder and harder to conceal. Now, everyone can see that the emperor is actually naked. While their art department is fantastic, their design decisions are horribly flawed at best. To put it crudely, Anet needs an enema, because there’s a lot of crap in that office.

As someone that’s been studying and creating RPGs for over 20 years, I can honestly say that this game is a unmitigated disaster. It’s not even something that can be fixed either. The majority of the game would need to be rebuilt from the ground up. Aside from the art team, the bulk of the staff would need replaced. The countless players they’ve already lost will never come back. It’s just a giant quagmire of failure at this point. Yet, mark my words, they’ll toss out some placebo to try to keep the unhappy players quiet, or just plain ignore reality and announce that this was a “rousing success”. It’ll be a mountain of BS, but…. that’s just how Anet and NCSoft roll.

So I’m not annoyed, I’ve just seen through their lies a long time ago and now just call it like it is. They don’t actually care about having even a somewhat decent game, just a quick cash grab. I give credit where it’s due, but I also have no problem calling them on it when they screw up. Unfortunately, the latter is commonplace, while them actually getting something right is seen less often than Bigfoot.

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Posted by: Grise.8741

Grise.8741

This is such a big failure…
I come from the french RP community and, as it is here, nobody is happy with anything about this.

It’s too soon to say for sure, but as it seems now these may be community-crashing issues (can we still talk about communities now that everything is mixed ?) that could ruin most of the things we liked about roleplaying on GW2. If this goes on we’re facing a major exodus from the game.

So please Anet, do something about it… If you don’t reverse it, at least try to fix the many problems that were raised on this topic.

- Grise, a really worried roleplayer who enjoyed the game for two years and who would like it to continue.

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Posted by: Mistwing.3578

Mistwing.3578

Great job Anet, you managed to kitten on all of us in one swift stroke.
While you’ll go prancing on all of the MMo websites saying how “hugely successful” this patch is, remember you have just lost a ton of players.
Vote with your wallets my fellow rpers. Vote with your wallets. Don’t spend another cent on this shameful excuse of an MMO and wait for Everquest Next where we have a good chance to be treated with some shred of respect.
Oh and also, to whoever is in charge of art. You have a pauldron fetish, we got it. Now if you could design something that doesnt look like LEGO, you’d be improving. A lot.

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Posted by: Asacledhae.2650

Asacledhae.2650

Either way, for me the megaserver the way it’s drafted right now is an insult to the entire gaming community. So instead of crying out loud about what’s good or bad, or begging about a “fix” which will never come, I would kindly ask Anet to make a research about other games out there who actually USE a megaserver. Then see the pros / cons of that system, and act accordingly.. Having “Skynet” playing “god” without some control from us, the community, isn’t exactly healthy.

Sorry guys, but the way things are evolving right now, is like trying to teach a Dolyak how to speak Greek.

The reasons we love the new downgra…..er….feature patch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-On3Ya0_4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqJlKjwrKB4

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Posted by: WereScrib.7154

WereScrib.7154

Either way, for me the megaserver the way it’s drafted right now is an insult to the entire gaming community. So instead of crying out loud about what’s good or bad, or begging about a “fix” which will never come, I would kindly ask Anet to make a research about other games out there who actually USE a megaserver. Then see the pros / cons of that system, and act accordingly.. Having “Skynet” playing “god” without some control from us, the community, isn’t exactly healthy.

Sorry guys, but the way things are evolving right now, is like trying to teach a Dolyak how to speak Greek.

All we need to make this halfway functional is by allowing you to choose which shard you’re in. “Black Citadel [RP]” “Black Citadel [DE]” “Black Citadel [FR]” along with the “Black Citadel [1,2,3,4,5, etc]”

As it stands, Anet was not only lying to us about their snerk sophisticated system of pairing you in snerk compatible shards. But unable to do something as simple as choosing which instance you want to be in. It’d work. CO does it. SWTOR does it.

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Posted by: Asacledhae.2650

Asacledhae.2650

All we need to make this halfway functional is by allowing you to choose which shard you’re in. “Black Citadel [RP]” “Black Citadel [DE]” “Black Citadel [FR]” along with the “Black Citadel [1,2,3,4,5, etc]”

As it stands, Anet was not only lying to us about their snerk sophisticated system of pairing you in snerk compatible shards. But unable to do something as simple as choosing which instance you want to be in. It’d work. CO does it. SWTOR does it.

Couldn’t agree more here.. Give us some control over it for crying out LOUD!

The reasons we love the new downgra…..er….feature patch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-On3Ya0_4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqJlKjwrKB4

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Posted by: lakdav.3694

lakdav.3694

Yeah, GW2 increasingly looks like an amusement park controlled by robots with this Megaserver system.

“You do this at this time. Dynamic events no longer apply. Bosses happen THIS TIME, and not anytime else. You enjoy this type of content. You will do exactly this type of content. The crowd mentality of the crowd we have put you together with shall demand your compliance. The human animal is predictable. Your individual choice and concept of the meaning of ‘fun’ does not compute with this system. You will be assimilated. Resistence is futile.”

The ironic part is this: Even if we leave en masse the game, Anet wont even realize, because their automated statistic-analytic systems wont make the connection that it was the RP playerbase that left… Because it cannot measure RP.

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Posted by: zwierz.9012

zwierz.9012

True, still the only thing we can do is bump this thread with positive criticism and “cease and desist” all purchases with real money until we are listened to and recognized as part of the playerbase.

It’s the only way we can even hope to be noticed, if we stop purchasing gems with real money, and voice WHY we are doing it.

Only other options are comply and forgo any hope of ever being listened to, or give up and go do something else.

Again, I for one am going to first do just that, stop buying gems with real currency. I would stop playing completely, as many other people I talked with would, if not for friends I made in the game. Should they leave, so will I of course.

Such a shame, really.

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Posted by: Cercie.1025

Cercie.1025

All we need to make this halfway functional is by allowing you to choose which shard you’re in. “Black Citadel [RP]” “Black Citadel [DE]” “Black Citadel [FR]” along with the “Black Citadel [1,2,3,4,5, etc]”

As it stands, Anet was not only lying to us about their snerk sophisticated system of pairing you in snerk compatible shards. But unable to do something as simple as choosing which instance you want to be in. It’d work. CO does it. SWTOR does it.

This!

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Posted by: Minimochat.1740

Minimochat.1740

The latest update is completely absurd.
I am a French gamer and I find myself surrounded by Germans who spit on me and English with which I mean hard sentences.

Rp is impossible under these conditions. A Mega-Server is not compatible with Rp!
Pull your fingers kitten and we give it back to normal servers.

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Posted by: Kallandra.2610

Kallandra.2610

So, they take away my individuality when wanting to wear town clothes. I now look like every other player in them.

They take away the Personality Traits, so now I’m no longer a charming rogue, or an unpredictable Mesmer.

And now my Roleplay is no longer possible because my guild mates are in different instances, there’s too much chatter scrolling past to concentrate on, and if I try and ask in Map Chat if there’s any roleplayers about it gets drowned out by trolls, or there are no roleplayers in that particular instance.

All these changes at once have upset me. I’m a disabled gamer and it just feels like I’ve stepped in to a different game. I am not happy. I actually cried when I saw what had happened to my beautiful town clothes. Now I can’t even find roleplayers to RP with :’(

(I’m on Piken Square not TC)

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Posted by: Cercie.1025

Cercie.1025

Anet might not listen to us, but most of the rest of the community is in an uproar as well. So there might be hope someone up top reads the feedback.

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Posted by: Synesh.1094

Synesh.1094

What are the concerns from the rest of the community at the moment? Besides the fact that it’s hard to find people from the servers you loved now in this mass of faceless people?

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Posted by: lakdav.3694

lakdav.3694

Its mostly about the Boss schedules, and the grouping that seems to be largely unpredictable (ignoring guilds and friendlists and language preference) and feel like Overflows with no chance of getting into the proper server. That is, from the Megaserver point of view. There are other issues with other aspects that dont touch on this particular issue. The closest one to RP might be the new town clothes system.

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Posted by: Cercie.1025

Cercie.1025

Plenty. You have euro players who can’t even communicate with others because all their different language bases are clumped together. World Boss spawn timers are the same in every country apparently. The town clothes change was counterproductive to the whole wardrobe idea. Bosses that are not even spawning in some places. Spvpers angry because they have to pay to use skins they already unlocked. People upset because of how gear was renamed, and weird issues with exotic items being changed into rares somehow. There are a lot of bad things going on, you just have to read

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Posted by: Synesh.1094

Synesh.1094

Maybe this will shake up Anet a bit. As a roleplayer I just want a pat on my shoulder (and working chairs) with a note that they care of our style of gameplay.

That would be it to make me happy.

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Posted by: Antares.2586

Antares.2586

First, lose your PvP community with boring maps and no GvG.

Second, lose your PvE community with boring Living Story.

Third, lose your RP community by destroying RP server ecosystem, which takes months to build…

Oh, I forgot, wreck the WvW community by nerfing %crit damage but let condition damage be the king of the hill for 6 months.

On the road to Success ! Wait…