Guild Wars 2

Dlarnkk.1068:

I gotta agree. Everyone here is just squeeing at sight of ‘LET GET NEW RACE!’ every time. Then they don’t recognize the issue with that. How are you going to explain a tengu person being pact commander? How are you going to explain a jotun being a pact commander? How are you going to explain Edgy McSnowflake Great Overlord Of Satan from The Mist being a pact commander? How are you going to explain Balthazar being a pact commander?

Why would the new race need to be a “Pact Commander” ?

I mean think about it, if they put in a new race, it would be part of an expansion or a living story, both of which are taking place AFTER the events of core races Personal Story, regardless if a player opted to do their personal story or not.

In fact there is no requirement that they would have to join any of the Main Three organizations, Vigil, Priory, or Whispers, and could be their own thing, not even needing to join any organization, their whole personal story could be all about how they chose to side with the “Outsiders” nothing more.

The Personal Story of the New Race, in no means needs to mirror or mimic the Personal Story of any of the core races.

In fact, I’ll go a step further, there is no requirement that this new race needs to start at level 1, they could auto start at level 60, and their personal story starts there, with only one Act and 3 chapters.

Act 1: Leaving Home to Help the Outsiders fight a Dragon.. that’s it folks!
Chapter 1: getting out of your Home City
Chapter 2: Meeting the Outsider Scum Forging an Alliance with the Outsiders.
Chapter 3: Go to face to a Dragon.

STIHL.2489:

Dlarnkk.1068:

I gotta agree. Everyone here is just squeeing at sight of ‘LET GET NEW RACE!’ every time. Then they don’t recognize the issue with that. How are you going to explain a tengu person being pact commander? How are you going to explain a jotun being a pact commander? How are you going to explain Edgy McSnowflake Great Overlord Of Satan from The Mist being a pact commander? How are you going to explain Balthazar being a pact commander?

Why would the new race need to be a “Pact Commander” ?

I mean think about it, if they put in a new race, it would be part of an expansion or a living story, both of which are taking place AFTER the events of core races Personal Story, regardless if a player opted to do their personal story or not.

In fact there is no requirement that they would have to join any of the Main Three organizations, Vigil, Priory, or Whispers, and could be their own thing, not even needing to join any organization, their whole personal story could be all about how they chose to side with the “Outsiders” nothing more.

The Personal Story of the New Race, in no means needs to mirror or mimic the Personal Story of any of the core races.

In fact, I’ll go a step further, there is no requirement that this new race needs to start at level 1, they could auto start at level 60, and their personal story starts there, with only one Act and 3 chapters.

Act 1: Leaving Home to Help the Outsiders fight a Dragon.. that’s it folks!
Chapter 1: getting out of your Home City
Chapter 2: Meeting the Outsider Scum Forging an Alliance with the Outsiders.
Chapter 3: Go to face to a Dragon.

Well, it should end with them becoming Pact Commander, to continue the story moving forward.

Sartharina.3542:

STIHL.2489:

Dlarnkk.1068:

I gotta agree. Everyone here is just squeeing at sight of ‘LET GET NEW RACE!’ every time. Then they don’t recognize the issue with that. How are you going to explain a tengu person being pact commander? How are you going to explain a jotun being a pact commander? How are you going to explain Edgy McSnowflake Great Overlord Of Satan from The Mist being a pact commander? How are you going to explain Balthazar being a pact commander?

Why would the new race need to be a “Pact Commander” ?

I mean think about it, if they put in a new race, it would be part of an expansion or a living story, both of which are taking place AFTER the events of core races Personal Story, regardless if a player opted to do their personal story or not.

In fact there is no requirement that they would have to join any of the Main Three organizations, Vigil, Priory, or Whispers, and could be their own thing, not even needing to join any organization, their whole personal story could be all about how they chose to side with the “Outsiders” nothing more.

The Personal Story of the New Race, in no means needs to mirror or mimic the Personal Story of any of the core races.

In fact, I’ll go a step further, there is no requirement that this new race needs to start at level 1, they could auto start at level 60, and their personal story starts there, with only one Act and 3 chapters.

Act 1: Leaving Home to Help the Outsiders fight a Dragon.. that’s it folks!
Chapter 1: getting out of your Home City
Chapter 2: Meeting the Outsider Scum Forging an Alliance with the Outsiders.
Chapter 3: Go to face to a Dragon.

Well, it should end with them becoming Pact Commander, to continue the story moving forward.

Why?

Sartharina.3542:

Well, it should end with them becoming Pact Commander, to continue the story moving forward.

As I mentioned in my post, who the Pact Commander is isn’t important and I think the story would go in better directions if that role is handed off to someone else or maybe even the Pact itself is disbanded for some reason or another. Having the main character going on to lead a group of heroes to go after these dragons could be a possibility.

There are tengu in the pact (at least one in the Vigil) along with hylek, ogres, grawl and other races, why couldn’t a tengu become pact commander and kill Zhaitan? Sounds as likely as an asura, charr or human doing it.

Also the tengu share a mesh with the charr, different animations of course. The idea isn’t insane.

STIHL.2489:

In fact there is no requirement that they would have to join any of the Main Three organizations, Vigil, Priory, or Whispers, and could be their own thing, not even needing to join any organization, their whole personal story could be all about how they chose to side with the “Outsiders” nothing more.

The Personal Story of the New Race, in no means needs to mirror or mimic the Personal Story of any of the core races.

In fact, I’ll go a step further, there is no requirement that this new race needs to start at level 1, they could auto start at level 60, and their personal story starts there, with only one Act and 3 chapters.

Act 1: Leaving Home to Help the Outsiders fight a Dragon.. that’s it folks!
Chapter 1: getting out of your Home City
Chapter 2: Meeting the Outsider Scum Forging an Alliance with the Outsiders.
Chapter 3: Go to face to a Dragon.

>Headstarts them to level 60.
> People wants revenants headstarted to level 80.
> Arenanet didn’t let that happen.
> Unsurprised poster forget that revenant was this case.
> People wants Revenant to have it own storyline.
> Arenanet didn’t provide either.
> Therefore a paradox is made, that a Revenant existed before Rytlock.

Arenanet will never level-boost an class, race, or anything. They’ll leave it all to start at level one. Meaning that they’ll have to create all the many stories from level 10 to level 80. Why do you think creation of a new race is a major red flag, and distracts arenanet away from trying to expand the overall area for end-game content?

I can understand somewhat skipping some stories, but you must recognize that most of the stories already occured. It wouldn’t make sense for a xenophobic race, like the Tengu, to be suddenly open. They are isolated within their walls for a reason ya’know.

Would love to play as a Centuar.. Recreate Zhed Shadowhoof

Dlarnkk.1068:

STIHL.2489:

In fact there is no requirement that they would have to join any of the Main Three organizations, Vigil, Priory, or Whispers, and could be their own thing, not even needing to join any organization, their whole personal story could be all about how they chose to side with the “Outsiders” nothing more.

The Personal Story of the New Race, in no means needs to mirror or mimic the Personal Story of any of the core races.

In fact, I’ll go a step further, there is no requirement that this new race needs to start at level 1, they could auto start at level 60, and their personal story starts there, with only one Act and 3 chapters.

Act 1: Leaving Home to Help the Outsiders fight a Dragon.. that’s it folks!
Chapter 1: getting out of your Home City
Chapter 2: Meeting the Outsider Scum Forging an Alliance with the Outsiders.
Chapter 3: Go to face to a Dragon.

>Headstarts them to level 60.
> People wants revenants headstarted to level 80.
> Arenanet didn’t let that happen.
> Unsurprised poster forget that revenant was this case.
> People wants Revenant to have it own storyline.
> Arenanet didn’t provide either.
> Therefore a paradox is made, that a Revenant existed before Rytlock.

Arenanet will never level-boost an class, race, or anything. They’ll leave it all to start at level one. Meaning that they’ll have to create all the many stories from level 10 to level 80. Why do you think creation of a new race is a major red flag, and distracts arenanet away from trying to expand the overall area for end-game content?

I can understand somewhat skipping some stories, but you must recognize that most of the stories already occured. It wouldn’t make sense for a xenophobic race, like the Tengu, to be suddenly open. They are isolated within their walls for a reason ya’know.

Wow, well, I have no idea why anyone would be under the impression that Reverent would have any kind of personal story, since is a class, and all Personal Stories are race based. Anet put in lore to explain their existence and how they came to be in the Living Story, and really, that’s the most that should be needed to introduce a new class.

Now, personally, I don’t recall anyone I met in game talking about wanting a ‘head start’ to level 80 for the Reverent, what I do remember is people stocking up on tomes, and asking about fast ways to level, as there was an on going joke in the game, that Anet would disable tomes just to force people to play the class from 1 – 80.

As for what Anet will and will not do, that remains to be seen. They can and will do whatever they want, if they want to level boost a class or race, they can and will do it, not to be rude, but unless you are the head of Anet, it’s not your place to say what Anet will or will not “Never Do”

The rest of what you said, was rather funny, because the main reason why I mentioned that they could start at a higher level, is exactly because they would be joining the “world” at a later time, after all the Personal Story/Living Story, events were done. So they would not need a bunch of build up to get to where they are.

Now, I don’t care for the Tengu, I would rather use the Largos, Not only does “Endless Ocean” sound like a great name for an expansion, why they would join the other races is pretty simple OH Look.. Jormag is gonna eat us.. these bipedal plant people killed Zhaitan, laid a beat down on Mordremoth and are now coming here to kill Jormag, let’s join them!

And that would be the sum entirety of their personal story as well.

Dlarnkk.1068:

STIHL.2489:

In fact there is no requirement that they would have to join any of the Main Three organizations, Vigil, Priory, or Whispers, and could be their own thing, not even needing to join any organization, their whole personal story could be all about how they chose to side with the “Outsiders” nothing more.

The Personal Story of the New Race, in no means needs to mirror or mimic the Personal Story of any of the core races.

In fact, I’ll go a step further, there is no requirement that this new race needs to start at level 1, they could auto start at level 60, and their personal story starts there, with only one Act and 3 chapters.

Act 1: Leaving Home to Help the Outsiders fight a Dragon.. that’s it folks!
Chapter 1: getting out of your Home City
Chapter 2: Meeting the Outsider Scum Forging an Alliance with the Outsiders.
Chapter 3: Go to face to a Dragon.

>Headstarts them to level 60.
> People wants revenants headstarted to level 80.
> Arenanet didn’t let that happen.
> Unsurprised poster forget that revenant was this case.
> People wants Revenant to have it own storyline.
> Arenanet didn’t provide either.
> Therefore a paradox is made, that a Revenant existed before Rytlock.

Arenanet will never level-boost an class, race, or anything. They’ll leave it all to start at level one. Meaning that they’ll have to create all the many stories from level 10 to level 80. Why do you think creation of a new race is a major red flag, and distracts arenanet away from trying to expand the overall area for end-game content?

I can understand somewhat skipping some stories, but you must recognize that most of the stories already occured. It wouldn’t make sense for a xenophobic race, like the Tengu, to be suddenly open. They are isolated within their walls for a reason ya’know.

Which is why my story ends up with the Tengu getting their walls blown down

Also – the Charr, Humans, Norn, and Asura are also highly-xenophobic and races (Humans moreso than Charr and Norn, but less so than Asura).

Anet still doesn’t explain how the Commander of the Pact who defeated Zaithan can be a Revenant when the “First Revenant” appeared after Zaithan’s death.

Ardid.7203:

Anet still doesn’t explain how the Commander of the Pact who defeated Zaithan can be a Revenant when the “First Revenant” appeared after Zaithan’s death.

They had a different class before they became a revenant, like Rytlock was a warrior before becoming one. Rytlock was there at the slaying of Zhaitan, if you recall.

For all intents and purposes, your class is never mentioned during the storyline. You can play mechanically as a Revenant, but lore-wise, you’re not one. You’re just whoever your character is called.

New race-quaggen!