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Posted by: Owedevil.2308

Owedevil.2308

I’ll start by saying that I was extremely suspicious when I went to research GW2 before buying it. No (OK, VERY infrequently offered) trial and no tally of server populations (being told total accounts on a server is utterly pointless unless you’re told total ACTIVE accounts) really made me think twice about buying GW2. I probably wouldn’t have if it wasn’t on sale.

Now I see why. The game is designed to house a gigantic population. I’ve only made it to lvl 15, so I ain’t sure if it gets better or if it’s the server I picked, but PvE maps are very sporadically populated as is teh enormous WvW map. The megaserver system should eventually fix teh PvE issue (hopefully) but in my fair, honest opinion there’s WAY WAAAY too much running around in WvW. I bought GW2 specifically and only for PvP. Well I planned on doing 85% PvP and 15% PvE, and that’s only if the PvE was fun. I read about teh public quests and active events then thought the PvE in GW 2 was going to be something different and fun; pleasantly that is the case. I usually abhor PvE but GW 2 PvE is surprisingly entertaining and engaging, not the old kill 200 walking mushrooms to level up WoW BS.

However, the PvP side of GW 2 has been very disappointing so far. WvW could use some work, imo. As a lvl 15 (I prefer to lvl up on PvP) wandering around looking for other players to fight with I found myself running for 10-15 minutes then getting ambushed, assassinated, or owned in 1v1s constantly. When I do make it clear across teh map to an allied champion battles are very brief and unsatisfying. As is, WvW is all about making a player blob and rushing through everything. As a low lvl player everyone else is usually faster than you, too. That means there’s barely any fighting for you, really most everyone, to do and you have the constant chance to miss out on reward due simply to speed difference. There’s no prolonged epic battles, no long (or even normal length) skirmishes, it’s just one side steamrolling over the other. I was a great fan of Warhammer Online while it was available. WAR had great Realm VS Realm combat. It had the basic good stuff like objective points that start a countdown timer which ping contested on teh whole map when players try to cap them. WvW could benefit from the same points, but add a “no contest timer” in addition to the longer countdown that’ll cause the point to cap if no one tries to defend it but resets if anyone does so people dont have to ALT TAB or fall asleep when they cap those points. I know big battles are marked on the map, but when players near Keeps, Outposts, Towers, or whatever they’re all called, the map could display the amount of players or simply execute a color coded ping when a certain number of players are in teh area. translucent for 0-5, green for 5-10, yellow for 10-20, red for 20+. There could also be a lot of PvE side-objectives added geared specifically for low lvl poorly equipped players consisting of a group of 1-5 members. Taking over orc camps, or those frog people, or whatever, helping out allied NPCs fight evil NPCs, etc. BUT make it so it takes a little time to do and PING the OBJ contested on the map to invite PvP. I would also highly suggest open world PvP but that’d just be marauding high lvls owning everyone, unless they were severely handicapped (much more than is) for entering low lvl areas. Lower the level area higher the handicap. Overall GW 2 is an extremely promising game that could indeed be truly great with some more development and I am only slightly regretful for purchasing it.

Again, I am still a low lvl and if anyone would like to point something out or offer valid, logical argument they are welcome to.

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Posted by: Erus Keb.8379

Erus Keb.8379

Concerning WvW in particular, I’m curious which server you choose. Quite a difference between some of them. Since your char is only level 15, you may want to consider deleting your character and then switch to another server. No gem cost if you have no characters.

Concerning speed. If you join a group, you’ll be more likely to get the speed buffs that those in the group share.

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Posted by: Mirta.5029

Mirta.5029

1. Constant trials? The trials are only like once every few months and to be honest they’re not constant enough. I can’t just tell my friends to flat out buy the game, because I don’t know whether they would like it or not, but the trials are so rare that I even miss the chance to inform them sometimes.
2. What server you’ll choose will make the game look like night and day. On Underworld (EU) the population is very poor and WvW is non existent. I recently transfered to Far Shiverpeaks with my guild. WvW has queues. Queues! And Gendarran Fields (the map that is currently hosting the main city) has an overflow on it.

You see the game is 2 years into its life cycle and through out those years the population has flocked to the more popular servers. Leaving some very empty, others very full. It happens in every MMO.

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Posted by: Owedevil.2308

Owedevil.2308

Interesting points, guess I shoulda went server hopping before I decided to lvl my characters. But to be clear, I said the trials were “infrequent.” I would like people to focus on my suggestions as well. Like them? Hate them? WHY?

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Posted by: Voreo Sabrae.5416

Voreo Sabrae.5416

Some of your points are being reworked on Tuesday in the Feature Patch, i think.
Certainly makes me happier.

Rawr?

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Posted by: Chargeit.9231

Chargeit.9231

Yea I just started playing on “Northern Shiverpeaks” America and can only say that it is about as dead as I’ve seen a mmo… And I tried rift back in the day.

I mean, it’s so bad that I’m surprised when I see anyone else. Now, to be honest out of the 3 or 4 days I’ve been playing I finally saw a group of maybe 10 people standing around a dungeon I guess. And I occasionally see someone when I’m at the bank or out and about.

This lack of a player base is making it impossible to do some of the tougher events. I’m surprised that this game is so dead, yet they don’t allow you to jump servers without paying for it… That just sucks.

I read something about them changing the way the servers work? I sure hope so. I really like the game from what I’ve seen, but man what’s the point of playing a mmo if you’re the only one around 90% of the time.

Like that one guy mentioned, even though I like the game, I’m not sure I’d recommend it because it’s a “Massive —>multi<-- user online game”, without the users.

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Posted by: Mirta.5029

Mirta.5029

Yea I just started playing on “Northern Shiverpeaks” America and can only say that it is about as dead as I’ve seen a mmo… And I tried rift back in the day.

I mean, it’s so bad that I’m surprised when I see anyone else. Now, to be honest out of the 3 or 4 days I’ve been playing I finally saw a group of maybe 10 people standing around a dungeon I guess. And I occasionally see someone when I’m at the bank or out and about.

This lack of a player base is making it impossible to do some of the tougher events. I’m surprised that this game is so dead, yet they don’t allow you to jump servers without paying for it… That just sucks.

I read something about them changing the way the servers work? I sure hope so. I really like the game from what I’ve seen, but man what’s the point of playing a mmo if you’re the only one around 90% of the time.

Like that one guy mentioned, even though I like the game, I’m not sure I’d recommend it because it’s a “Massive —>multi<-- user online game”, without the users.

1. I’m pretty sure that you’re either on on the off peak times or exaggerating. I’ve been on one of the worst servers in EU and there was quite a lot of people in Gendarran Fields, even though we did struggle with world bosses.
2. You can just the servers completely free if you just delete all your characters. Or simply earn 100-200 gold or so (depending on where you want to jump) and turn that into gems.
3. Mega server system is getting rolled out on the 15th.

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Posted by: Liquid.4671

Liquid.4671

Yea I just started playing on “Northern Shiverpeaks” America and can only say that it is about as dead as I’ve seen a mmo… And I tried rift back in the day.

I mean, it’s so bad that I’m surprised when I see anyone else. Now, to be honest out of the 3 or 4 days I’ve been playing I finally saw a group of maybe 10 people standing around a dungeon I guess. And I occasionally see someone when I’m at the bank or out and about.

This lack of a player base is making it impossible to do some of the tougher events. I’m surprised that this game is so dead, yet they don’t allow you to jump servers without paying for it… That just sucks.

I read something about them changing the way the servers work? I sure hope so. I really like the game from what I’ve seen, but man what’s the point of playing a mmo if you’re the only one around 90% of the time.

Like that one guy mentioned, even though I like the game, I’m not sure I’d recommend it because it’s a “Massive —>multi<-- user online game”, without the users.

1. I’m pretty sure that you’re either on on the off peak times or exaggerating. I’ve been on one of the worst servers in EU and there was quite a lot of people in Gendarran Fields, even though we did struggle with world bosses.
2. You can just the servers completely free if you just delete all your characters. Or simply earn 100-200 gold or so (depending on where you want to jump) and turn that into gems.
3. Mega server system is getting rolled out on the 15th.

The mega server system will only cover some areas with the 15th patch though.
I forget what they changed their decision to regarding which areas.

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Posted by: Mirta.5029

Mirta.5029

The mega server system will only cover some areas with the 15th patch though.
I forget what they changed their decision to regarding which servers.

all servers will be affected, it’s just that they won’t start from the starting zones, but rather from the least populated zones.

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Posted by: Owedevil.2308

Owedevil.2308

All good info, guess I’ll be waiting till after the 15th when the megaserver system is in place to go server hopping.

I’m lazy, and don’t like going through the news articles. If anyone knows if WvW is getting updated, and if it is what features are being added, feel free to reply.

Lastly, I don’t know if I should actually start a new post for this or not, and I’m sure someone else has already done this, but can people who are on active servers give teh server name? “Far Shiverpeaks” is supposed to be an active one as stated my Mirta (Thx btw,) so I’ll probly hop to that one first and see. Be sure to include the level range and game mode (PvE/PvP) you experienced activity on and, most importantly, include how active WvW is on the server you suggest.

While we are at it, feel free to include dead servers as well. The server I am on currently is Gate of Madness. In the 1-15 PvE zones in Queensdale, the Human starting area, I am lucky to see 2-4 other players in an hour of game time. I almost never see other groups except the champion train which is usually always going on and consists of roughly 8-12 players. The pvp matches seem to be fairly active with about 8 nearly full games if I remember correctly. The WvW on GoM is pretty lousy with about 50 people being the most I have ever seen on one map location and 30 being the usual. Tons of running around empty places in Gate of Madness WvW.

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Posted by: Erus Keb.8379

Erus Keb.8379

http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups I’d look at the predicted rankings and use that as a guide. Specifically for WvW. I don’t know how well it will stand up for PVE across the board but, I’ve guested to TC and Blackgate and PVE is far from dead.

Something in the middle, some PVE zones are active on my server (NSP). And we even end up with queues to get into WvW at times.

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Posted by: Erich.1783

Erich.1783

JQ is very active in WvW and there are many in PvE as well, with some dead zones that, with any luck, the megaserver will help with.

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Posted by: Dark Catalyst.1028

Dark Catalyst.1028

1. There are only a small handful of populated servers on the NA side. Blackgate being the main one.
2. Roleplaying a zergling is optimal play here.

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Posted by: Liquid.4671

Liquid.4671

The mega server system will only cover some areas with the 15th patch though.
I forget what they changed their decision to regarding which servers.

all servers will be affected, it’s just that they won’t start from the starting zones, but rather from the least populated zones.

Ah, shoot, I meant to type areas instead of servers.
Sorry about that.

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Posted by: Algreg.3629

Algreg.3629

I don´t really understand your point. You “prefer leveling in pvp”. You go to a pvp area. There you get owned, not only by the mighty zerg, but also 1v1. So, what is the issue? A shame those guys fight back and don´t let you have those xp?

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Posted by: Owedevil.2308

Owedevil.2308

Thanks for all teh info folks, appreciate it. I tried " Far Shiverpeaks" but, being a EU server it wasn’t too active for me in teh US. I’ll give JQ a try but feel free to keep suggesting servers everyone. EU or NA I don’t care as long as it has decent activity. On a side note why don’t they have international servers…?

I don´t really understand your point. You “prefer leveling in pvp”. You go to a pvp area. There you get owned, not only by the mighty zerg, but also 1v1. So, what is the issue? A shame those guys fight back and don´t let you have those xp?

Very obviously, the context of the statement implied I hate PvE so some unintelligent fellow doesn’t just whine; “Go level up THEN play WvW, DUuUuur.” I prefer to lvl off PvP like was very possible in Warhammer Online. The issue could be inferred and resolved from my suggestions if they were implemented. I’m not going to spell it all out for you, read.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

If your account is based in the EU region, you will not be able to guest to Jade Quarry. Regions are separated.

I can’t speak to EU servers, as I am based in NA. Blackgate is not the only populated server in NA, not by a long shot.

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Posted by: Owedevil.2308

Owedevil.2308

I already deleted my characters, so switching between regions is no problem. I plan on trying JQ and BG soon. Hopefully one of those will be populated enough. Thx for teh suggestions, feel free to suggest more servers all.