Guild Wars 2

The fact that so many people are so accepting and lax of poor policy, and do not complain, tells me something.

They pretty much accept anything that happens to them, its all good!

I guess learning about world events, doing stuff, trying to get that job.. no point either right? Its all good, bro! Why care or spend time caring? Everything will come to you, and you never have to take the bull by the horns or take action to gain it.
If you accept disappointing things, prepare to be disappointed. Forever.

What will happen then? Excuses…

“I never did ____ because ____.”
“I totally didn’t deserve ____ and thats why I don’t have it.”
“____ might be bad for me now, but I can change him/her.”

Really, grow an inner fire, care about things. Even the small ones, because they add up.

You deserve better.

Expressing distaste with the dynamic leveling adjustment is a good place to start.

Ive already made my feelings clear but having thought about it further what about this:

You can do the daily on any number of characters.
You choose one character to be your ‘main’ character.
‘Main’ character can buy anything, other characters are limited to items that can be soulbound (so this would exclude dyes for example)

That way those that have more characters arent really gaining an advantage over others but can still spend time to gear their characters up by doing the dailies.

I have just two level 80s so for me the current system works neither for or against me.

LMFHCNASAO!!!!!
The whine in the forums is almost aged to perfection.

I’m sure that in future patches, addtional ways to obtain laurels/ascended anything will be put in.

As far as having the what I think someone called a tactical disadvantage in WvW because they initially can’t get 8 ammy’s, one for each character they have…Well, niether will the rest of the community who have 8 characters. It’s not like you would know what your opponent was wearing anyway. Say you and said opponent had identical gear choices/stat choices/build choices and you lost. How would you know that you had all the same stuff? Say you get beat by players who only have rares, which I assure you…probably happens more often than you think, how would you know?

It’ll be fine. The sky isn’t falling. No need for panic.

I may be wrong, but isn’t there another thread talking about retroactively giving these awards for accumilated achievement points? I think I read that even the infinite achievements like the Entropy one for salvaging items would have a cut off point for rewards. I may be wrong.

Akari Storm.6809:

LMFHCNASAO!!!!!
The whine in the forums is almost aged to perfection.

I’m sure that in future patches, addtional ways to obtain laurels/ascended anything will be put in.

As far as having the what I think someone called a tactical disadvantage in WvW because they initially can’t get 8 ammy’s, one for each character they have…Well, niether will the rest of the community who have 8 characters. It’s not like you would know what your opponent was wearing anyway. Say you and said opponent had identical gear choices/stat choices/build choices and you lost. How would you know that you had all the same stuff? Say you get beat by players who only have rares, which I assure you…probably happens more often than you think, how would you know?

It’ll be fine. The sky isn’t falling. No need for panic.

I may be wrong, but isn’t there another thread talking about retroactively giving these awards for accumilated achievement points? I think I read that even the infinite achievements like the Entropy one for salvaging items would have a cut off point for rewards. I may be wrong.

Laughing My Fat Human Charr Norn Asura Sylvari kitten Off?

anyway, the sky actually is falling… when the Flame and Frost stuff really begins, apparently

Akari Storm.6809:

LMFHCNASAO!!!!!
The whine in the forums is almost aged to perfection.

I’m sure that in future patches, addtional ways to obtain laurels/ascended anything will be put in.

As far as having the what I think someone called a tactical disadvantage in WvW because they initially can’t get 8 ammy’s, one for each character they have…Well, niether will the rest of the community who have 8 characters. It’s not like you would know what your opponent was wearing anyway. Say you and said opponent had identical gear choices/stat choices/build choices and you lost. How would you know that you had all the same stuff? Say you get beat by players who only have rares, which I assure you…probably happens more often than you think, how would you know?

It’ll be fine. The sky isn’t falling. No need for panic.

I may be wrong, but isn’t there another thread talking about retroactively giving these awards for accumilated achievement points? I think I read that even the infinite achievements like the Entropy one for salvaging items would have a cut off point for rewards. I may be wrong.

As I mentioned earlier, the retroactive rewards will only be for the single-completion achievements. The calendar-gating will still be a problem, even after this change. The simplest solution would be to allow the amulets to be bought with Pristine Fractal Relics in addition to Laurels.

Levetty.1279:

eisberg.2379:

I agree, daily/monthly achievements should be character bound and not account bound. This is alt unfriendly system.

It would be an absolute nightmare to try and get dailies on one character without massive waypoint costs.

Think for a moment…5 characters all with infused rings, back packs now what was that you said about waypoint costs?

fractalKinesis.8569:

Akari Storm.6809:

LMFHCNASAO!!!!!
The whine in the forums is almost aged to perfection.

I’m sure that in future patches, addtional ways to obtain laurels/ascended anything will be put in.

As far as having the what I think someone called a tactical disadvantage in WvW because they initially can’t get 8 ammy’s, one for each character they have…Well, niether will the rest of the community who have 8 characters. It’s not like you would know what your opponent was wearing anyway. Say you and said opponent had identical gear choices/stat choices/build choices and you lost. How would you know that you had all the same stuff? Say you get beat by players who only have rares, which I assure you…probably happens more often than you think, how would you know?

It’ll be fine. The sky isn’t falling. No need for panic.

I may be wrong, but isn’t there another thread talking about retroactively giving these awards for accumilated achievement points? I think I read that even the infinite achievements like the Entropy one for salvaging items would have a cut off point for rewards. I may be wrong.

Laughing My Fat Human Charr Norn Asura Sylvari kitten Off?

anyway, the sky actually is falling… when the Flame and Frost stuff really begins, apparently

Indeed!! INNDEEEED!! indeed. ENNNNDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

my indeed sword.

They probably didn’t make it account bound because players would exploit this. Dailys don’t take much time to do, in general. Players can make a character, do the daily, get reward, delete character and rinse’n’repeat.

Now you see why this is not a good idea.

Death Reincarnated.3570:

They probably didn’t make it account bound because players would exploit this. Dailys don’t take much time to do, in general. Players can make a character, do the daily, get reward, delete character and rinse’n’repeat.

Now you see why this is not a good idea.

This was brought up already, it would be relatively simple to check the number of available character slots on an account, and use that value to set the limit. I.E. I have 6 available character slots, I can run the daily 6 times. If I have 10 available character slots, I can run the daily 10x a day.

Akari Storm.6809:

fractalKinesis.8569:

Akari Storm.6809:

LMFHCNASAO!!!!!
The whine in the forums is almost aged to perfection.

I’m sure that in future patches, addtional ways to obtain laurels/ascended anything will be put in.

As far as having the what I think someone called a tactical disadvantage in WvW because they initially can’t get 8 ammy’s, one for each character they have…Well, niether will the rest of the community who have 8 characters. It’s not like you would know what your opponent was wearing anyway. Say you and said opponent had identical gear choices/stat choices/build choices and you lost. How would you know that you had all the same stuff? Say you get beat by players who only have rares, which I assure you…probably happens more often than you think, how would you know?

It’ll be fine. The sky isn’t falling. No need for panic.

I may be wrong, but isn’t there another thread talking about retroactively giving these awards for accumilated achievement points? I think I read that even the infinite achievements like the Entropy one for salvaging items would have a cut off point for rewards. I may be wrong.

Laughing My Fat Human Charr Norn Asura Sylvari kitten Off?

anyway, the sky actually is falling… when the Flame and Frost stuff really begins, apparently

Indeed!! INNDEEEED!! indeed. ENNNNDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

my indeed sword.

INdeed
inDEED
indy’d

I still have no idea what they’re getting at with this new story update. In fact, I don’t even know what they were getting at with the Lost Shores thing. All I know is there was a lot of lag and me logging to play Dwarf Fortress.

I’m sure they’re going to put in other ways to get them.

I’m also sure they’re going to wait about a month to do so. Why? Because that’s when they’ll start showing up from the laurels. ANet made this a very obvious time gate for a reason, they’re not about to shoot themselves in the foot by bypassing it already.

No, they’ve got a lot of OTHER ways to shoot themselves in the foot, instead.
:)

Any update on this for people with more than one character?

I thought they were eventually gonna do laurel rewards to the amount of achievement points you have…eventually..>.>

I currently have 4 characters at 80 and another on the way.

3 of my characters have ascended items (ranging from 1-5 ascended items, none with 6 as of yet). I have only been collecting ascended items since March. I guess 5 months to get them all geared is possible. However, I don’t think that is too slow. I do, however, think it is too fast to ‘pretty much’ fully gear them. You can have them equipped with all exotics the same day that you hit 80, because it is so easy to do so. I am happy there is at least this miniscule progression.

TLDR I have multiple 80’s and am far from upset about the Laurel limit.

As is, this would hurt the super casual players more.

They’re less likely to log in every day, and if we have a typical work schedule, any substantial play time is going to be on the weekends.

If they’re super casual, they shouldn’t worry too much about having BiS gear anyway, as the difference isn’t that big (if you consider amulets only, as rings can easily be bought with pristine fractal relics).

this thread is very offensive to me because it uses the word “kittened”!

Character bound dailys would be a nightmare.

I have 3 and 1/2 80s and don’t mind. I bought Necklace for main and the cat tonic. XD

I’ve been putting Ascended pieces on 80’s that I hadn’t gotten around to giving Exotic jewelry. Every time I think about replacing an exotic piece with an Ascended one, I look at the minor stat gain and think, “The gain does not justify the expenditure.”

lol characterbound dailies….

the poor players who are on top of achievement points list then would have to create the max 36 characters and do the daily on everyone of them so be on top of the list^^

edit:
the idea with character bound dailies is stupid in my opinion but i like the idea of being able to buy amuletts with pristine relics

another good solution in my opinion:
just reduce the price for ascended amulett (and accessory too maybe)

Orangensaft.7139:

lol characterbound dailies….

the poor players who are on top of achievement points list then would have to create the max 36 characters and do the daily on everyone of them so be on top of the list^^

I don’t think many people care about achievement points. Its the Laurels. Id sell all my achievement points for one laurel if I had the option.

Vorch.2985:

Laurels will be awarded for achievement points as well. We don’t know the ratio.

Thought that warranted the highlights

Still waiting on this 3 months later….

I am feeling this too. There need to be multiple ways to work towards Ascended items (I’d prefer it they just had the same stats… too late for that now). There’s only like… 2 ways to works towards a type of gear? Guild comms and laurels for earrings and Fracs and Laurels for rings. Terribad distribution.

The problem is that there’s an achievement leaderboard, which some people seem to care about, and if you made it this way, everyone with a ton of alts and some time would easily be able to top the leaderboard.

I wouldn’t actually mind if the change was made, but the problem here is that dailies were always able to be done on any character, so if I played one, I’d get my daily and if I played a different one I’d STILL be working on the same daily.

What you’re essentially asking is for a complete rewrite of the rules. People are already complaining (in other threads) about the pressure from feeling they have to do the daily. How do you think they’ll respond when they feel they have to do four or five of them.

While this change would work for some people (those who have multiple characters and those who have the time to regularly do multiple dailies) I think it would work against the bulk of the population…so it’s a change that will never happen.

In fact, the whole purpose of making dailies the way they were was so casuals COULD catch up. I mean if you don’t have a ton of time to do dailies now, you only have to do 30 dailies to get an ascended amulet. Less if you do a monthly.

Changing this would give a huge advantage to people with lots of free time. It negates the whole reason for the cap in the first place.

Vayne.8563:

The problem is that there’s an achievement leaderboard, which some people seem to care about, and if you made it this way, everyone with a ton of alts and some time would easily be able to top the leaderboard.

I wouldn’t actually mind if the change was made, but the problem here is that dailies were always able to be done on any character, so if I played one, I’d get my daily and if I played a different one I’d STILL be working on the same daily.

What you’re essentially asking is for a complete rewrite of the rules. People are already complaining (in other threads) about the pressure from feeling they have to do the daily. How do you think they’ll respond when they feel they have to do four or five of them.

While this change would work for some people (those who have multiple characters and those who have the time to regularly do multiple dailies) I think it would work against the bulk of the population…so it’s a change that will never happen.

In fact, the whole purpose of making dailies the way they were was so casuals COULD catch up. I mean if you don’t have a ton of time to do dailies now, you only have to do 30 dailies to get an ascended amulet. Less if you do a monthly.

Changing this would give a huge advantage to people with lots of free time. It negates the whole reason for the cap in the first place.

You really ruin the experience of the forums by posting in every thread you disagree to with a condescending “My way is right everything else is flawed logic and therefore a hyperbole.”

I think your English talents are better served writing a book instead of posting on the forums 24/7.

I like the current system for Laurels. Let’s say character bound, people just keep making level 1 alt and go complete their daily then delete make new alts and repeat. That would ruin the economy because laurels can get other stuff like T6 mats too.

The leaderboards are already pointless because it gave everyone that did their daily since release top rank and people like me that only started when laurels came out have no chance and will be forever behind. Already unfair so why not make dailies character bound?

First off, let’s point out that Dailies and Monthlies are ACHIEVEMENTS. Because of this, there’s no way to allow them to be done multiple times repeatedly because it would exploit the achievement system that’s set into place and designed.

Secondly let’s point out that the only Ascended gear that is out of the Laurels is the Amulet. Ascended gear is only around 5-6% different than Exotic gear. It’s not that much of a matter on those other characters that small amount on a singular item slot out of all the other item slots.

Thirdly, I also want to point out that you cannot be playing all those characters at the same time unless they’re on different accounts (if that were the case, you’d be able to do all the dailies on each account, rewarded each separately, and this whole thread would be moot).

Fourthly, (long list) there’s the point that certain things in this game are being designed so that players focus on a “main” character and that alts, while useful in their own aspects, are secondary play without the perks of the main. These changes include things like: account bound JP chests, account single-rewarded Molten Forged Gauntlets, character bound WvWvW ranks.

So, in closing: We can’t get everything, all the time, handed to us on a silver platter. Want everything? Good on you, but you’ll have to work the time to get it. Not instantly, but long term investment.

Agree, Siphaed. “Long term investment” indeed. “Delayed gratification” is a phrase that got lost in today’s insta-everything world. Both in concept and use.

I have nine 80’s. Three of them have Laurel Amulets.

The exotics I have on my characters are good enough to allow my guild to 4-man both Fractals and Explorables. The amulets are gravy and a nice addition, but not absolutely required. Gear does not play my characters, I do.

I prefer that what is currently account bound remain account bound. For obvious reasons, many of them explained in this thread.

I am in no rush. There is no game to “beat”. I don’t need it yesterday. I like having something to work towards.

I don’t feel kittened by the Laurel limit. I feel relieved. The thought of doing dailies, systematically, on 9 different characters sounds more annoying than fun; more like another set of demands/chores than relaxing. (Oh, and btw, I have a second account. Haven’t bothered doing dailies there.)

-Old school min/maxer that understands the player’s skill drives this game, not the gear.

They probably want to prevent people from logging on just to do the daily 5 times and log off again, cause that would not be considered fun, but for people with 5 characters (like the OP) it would feel mandatory.

So I think it’s fine as it is. And yes you’ll be able to get ascended amulets without laurels, they’re just taking their time to expand the ascended system.

This is just one of the things they didn’t think about when they added vertical progression to the game. Managing VP is a nightmare. I have all the professions at 80 and I am, well, kittened by VP. Welcome to the club.

Meh… this isn’t so bad.

The stat difference is not huge.

One doesn’t need anything above green gear in this game. Everything else is just nice to have.

And if you did get it all right away, what would you do then?

This one bugged me for a bit, but then I got over it.

I’m a lot more annoyed at the gem-store mining pick being souldbound. That actually matters.

Lunar Sunset.8742:

Vayne.8563:

The problem is that there’s an achievement leaderboard, which some people seem to care about, and if you made it this way, everyone with a ton of alts and some time would easily be able to top the leaderboard.

I wouldn’t actually mind if the change was made, but the problem here is that dailies were always able to be done on any character, so if I played one, I’d get my daily and if I played a different one I’d STILL be working on the same daily.

What you’re essentially asking is for a complete rewrite of the rules. People are already complaining (in other threads) about the pressure from feeling they have to do the daily. How do you think they’ll respond when they feel they have to do four or five of them.

While this change would work for some people (those who have multiple characters and those who have the time to regularly do multiple dailies) I think it would work against the bulk of the population…so it’s a change that will never happen.

In fact, the whole purpose of making dailies the way they were was so casuals COULD catch up. I mean if you don’t have a ton of time to do dailies now, you only have to do 30 dailies to get an ascended amulet. Less if you do a monthly.

Changing this would give a huge advantage to people with lots of free time. It negates the whole reason for the cap in the first place.

You really ruin the experience of the forums by posting in every thread you disagree to with a condescending “My way is right everything else is flawed logic and therefore a hyperbole.”

I think your English talents are better served writing a book instead of posting on the forums 24/7.

I’ve written quite a few books, thanks for suggestion though. I didn’t call this suggestion hyperbole either, so why you’d bring that specifically up, I have no idea.

I’m allowed to disagree with people on a forum. Why people should say I ruin the forum by disagreeing, I don’t understand. I didn’t suggest the OP ruined the forum by posting what he posted. I think the OPs post is quite reasonable, compared to many of the threads I post in. I never suggested the OP was unreasonable or used hyperbole.

I do suggest, however that the OPs suggestion will have a negative affect on part of the playerbase. I’m really sorry that that ruins your experience of the forums.

If disagreements are hard for you to deal with and they ruin your experience, perhaps you should take up something less stressful.

eisberg.2379:

I agree, daily/monthly achievements should be character bound and not account bound. This is alt unfriendly system.

Sorry, but I like it account bound.. I don’t have time to grind dailies with every kitten one of my toons. So bite your tongue.

Vayne.8563:

The problem is that there’s an achievement leaderboard, which some people seem to care about, and if you made it this way, everyone with a ton of alts and some time would easily be able to top the leaderboard.

I wouldn’t actually mind if the change was made, but the problem here is that dailies were always able to be done on any character, so if I played one, I’d get my daily and if I played a different one I’d STILL be working on the same daily.

What you’re essentially asking is for a complete rewrite of the rules. People are already complaining (in other threads) about the pressure from feeling they have to do the daily. How do you think they’ll respond when they feel they have to do four or five of them.

While this change would work for some people (those who have multiple characters and those who have the time to regularly do multiple dailies) I think it would work against the bulk of the population…so it’s a change that will never happen.

In fact, the whole purpose of making dailies the way they were was so casuals COULD catch up. I mean if you don’t have a ton of time to do dailies now, you only have to do 30 dailies to get an ascended amulet. Less if you do a monthly.

Changing this would give a huge advantage to people with lots of free time. It negates the whole reason for the cap in the first place.

Nice post Vayne and I agree with you. Changing it to character bound instead of account bound would work against me and a lot of others.

This is an extremely alt friendly system. Laurels are account bound making it a prime definition of alt friendly. What you’re looking to do is get the best items available to all your characters in a short amount of time.

Another alternative would be to increase the ways of obtaining Laurels instead of tying them to dailies.

Lunar Sunset.8742:

Vayne.8563:

The problem is that there’s an achievement leaderboard, which some people seem to care about, and if you made it this way, everyone with a ton of alts and some time would easily be able to top the leaderboard.

I wouldn’t actually mind if the change was made, but the problem here is that dailies were always able to be done on any character, so if I played one, I’d get my daily and if I played a different one I’d STILL be working on the same daily.

What you’re essentially asking is for a complete rewrite of the rules. People are already complaining (in other threads) about the pressure from feeling they have to do the daily. How do you think they’ll respond when they feel they have to do four or five of them.

While this change would work for some people (those who have multiple characters and those who have the time to regularly do multiple dailies) I think it would work against the bulk of the population…so it’s a change that will never happen.

In fact, the whole purpose of making dailies the way they were was so casuals COULD catch up. I mean if you don’t have a ton of time to do dailies now, you only have to do 30 dailies to get an ascended amulet. Less if you do a monthly.

Changing this would give a huge advantage to people with lots of free time. It negates the whole reason for the cap in the first place.

You really ruin the experience of the forums by posting in every thread you disagree to with a condescending “My way is right everything else is flawed logic and therefore a hyperbole.”

I think your English talents are better served writing a book instead of posting on the forums 24/7.

Oh really? I think maybe you need to get a clue that it is Vayne’s prerogative to post on these forums to agree or disagree the same as the rest of you dolts. Why? Just because someone doesn’t jump on the bandwagon you see fit to insult? As far as with the condescending tone of the post there was none other than the truth of the matter.. In other words you were reaching. Get use to it, everyone will not always agree with the lot of you.

If they were going to make the daily character bound, only the first daily would award achievement points. Further completions would only award a laurel, exp and maybe karma (directly, not a jug). As a side effect, laurels would also be character bound, which would be a bad thing for those that only play alts once in a while, since like karma, all of it gained by the main is not useable by the alt.

Amulets? I’m getting the cat tonic. Meow! Me me me meow meow meow!

It is a grind for sure. Consider this…endgame. Im returning to the game, and its a mindset Im trying to instill in myself. I feel you man, I have 5 80s but only focusing on 3. I want BiS gear and then just enjoy the game, work toward legendary, and grind for cosmetics. I dont want to spend eons on this stuff. But, it is what it is. I’ve complained until I was blue in the face, been given many warnings and took two months off of the game because I felt lied to. Trying to turn over a new leaf here.

Vayne.8563:

Lunar Sunset.8742:

Vayne.8563:

The problem is that there’s an achievement leaderboard, which some people seem to care about, and if you made it this way, everyone with a ton of alts and some time would easily be able to top the leaderboard.

I wouldn’t actually mind if the change was made, but the problem here is that dailies were always able to be done on any character, so if I played one, I’d get my daily and if I played a different one I’d STILL be working on the same daily.

What you’re essentially asking is for a complete rewrite of the rules. People are already complaining (in other threads) about the pressure from feeling they have to do the daily. How do you think they’ll respond when they feel they have to do four or five of them.

While this change would work for some people (those who have multiple characters and those who have the time to regularly do multiple dailies) I think it would work against the bulk of the population…so it’s a change that will never happen.

In fact, the whole purpose of making dailies the way they were was so casuals COULD catch up. I mean if you don’t have a ton of time to do dailies now, you only have to do 30 dailies to get an ascended amulet. Less if you do a monthly.

Changing this would give a huge advantage to people with lots of free time. It negates the whole reason for the cap in the first place.

You really ruin the experience of the forums by posting in every thread you disagree to with a condescending “My way is right everything else is flawed logic and therefore a hyperbole.”

I think your English talents are better served writing a book instead of posting on the forums 24/7.

I’ve written quite a few books, thanks for suggestion though. I didn’t call this suggestion hyperbole either, so why you’d bring that specifically up, I have no idea.

I’m allowed to disagree with people on a forum. Why people should say I ruin the forum by disagreeing, I don’t understand. I didn’t suggest the OP ruined the forum by posting what he posted. I think the OPs post is quite reasonable, compared to many of the threads I post in. I never suggested the OP was unreasonable or used hyperbole.

I do suggest, however that the OPs suggestion will have a negative affect on part of the playerbase. I’m really sorry that that ruins your experience of the forums.

If disagreements are hard for you to deal with and they ruin your experience, perhaps you should take up something less stressful.

This brings chronic pain to me and I have trouble sleeping at night.

There will be new ways to earn laurels. Also, you can attain some ascended gear from running fractals. And I like dailies/monthlies as they are now, account shared. Let’s me bang out my daily on a sub-80 alt to earn some quick XP. If they were player-based, everyone would 1) complain that people with 1 dedicated main had a disadvantage and 2) would cause people to feel “forced” into running dailies with all their characters.

Yeah, I have 2 80’s, one has 4 Ascended pieces and a Legendary, the other just has Exotics. Right now I can choose between either maxing out the first character (6 Ascended) or starting to add laurel-derived Ascended to the second. Either way it hurts one of the two characters.

I agree with OP and it’s a reason I gave up on GW2 dailies and pretty much the game as a whole just recently. Currently I’m not even logging in anymore, I’m trying out neverwinter and find it much more fun and alt friendly.

Sadly it doesnt have much PvP in the way I like, like WvW type of PvP, but my PvP needs are met by playing BF3. I found the NW PvE part and leveling much more fun.

GW2 really needs to broaden their laurel system and let us do dailies/monthlöies on each toon if we like. Make laurels soul bound if needed. Some will say economy will get kittened up… well it already is, and it’s not a big issue.

SneakyErvin.3056:

I agree with OP and it’s a reason I gave up on GW2 dailies and pretty much the game as a whole just recently. Currently I’m not even logging in anymore, I’m trying out neverwinter and find it much more fun and alt friendly.

Sadly it doesnt have much PvP in the way I like, like WvW type of PvP, but my PvP needs are met by playing BF3. I found the NW PvE part and leveling much more fun.

GW2 really needs to broaden their laurel system and let us do dailies/monthlöies on each toon if we like. Make laurels soul bound if needed. Some will say economy will get kittened up… well it already is, and it’s not a big issue.

I’ve been playing NW as well. I like the game more so than I thought. Reading zone chat, I think a lot of other people do too. The one thing people complain about is the cash shop. Its why I might be breaking from that game already…but overall, its a solid game.

cesmode.4257:

SneakyErvin.3056:

I agree with OP and it’s a reason I gave up on GW2 dailies and pretty much the game as a whole just recently. Currently I’m not even logging in anymore, I’m trying out neverwinter and find it much more fun and alt friendly.

Sadly it doesnt have much PvP in the way I like, like WvW type of PvP, but my PvP needs are met by playing BF3. I found the NW PvE part and leveling much more fun.

GW2 really needs to broaden their laurel system and let us do dailies/monthlöies on each toon if we like. Make laurels soul bound if needed. Some will say economy will get kittened up… well it already is, and it’s not a big issue.

I’ve been playing NW as well. I like the game more so than I thought. Reading zone chat, I think a lot of other people do too. The one thing people complain about is the cash shop. Its why I might be breaking from that game already…but overall, its a solid game.

The cash shop in every PW game I’ve tried has been pretty dreadful. I’d never go back to that company under any circumstance.

I hate this idea. have 6 level 80 characters that I am every so slowly gearing (it would help if I could make up my mind). I don’t mind ascended gear, but I dislike daily’s. I don’t want to do them once, let alone six times.

I would be happy if they followed through on their statement that there would be alternative ways to earn laurels, but I think that will wait until they are ready to introduce a new gear tier.

Randulf.7614:

I have to say, I’ve disagreed with all the posts about the moaning over dailys/laurels so far, but this is actually something I can see as a valid point. I don’t have multiple alts, so I never saw this as an issues, but yes I can see entirely how someone like yourself with a few alts will struggle to earn enough laurels for them all until they implement other ways of gaining laurels.

Character based laurels/dailys would seem to be the answer although they’d have to address the Karma issue too (I’m sure there are ways round)

i have 5 level 80’s and am working on my 6th at the moment. The laurel system is broken and should be able to earned by any char. Now as far as if they can be used across the account is the REAL question. It’d take years to gear out all of my chars and if i have 1 of each class which is my plan in the end. The reward isn’t there to play all my chars.

They did it to slow the gear grind down. They want gear progression to go up as the game gets older, rather than have you grind out all your max gear in a week, then have no more gear-oriented goals. Also it’s 30 laurels per amulet, and you get 10 from monthlies, so it’s not THAT bad.

The problem is ascended gear needs more sources.

If it becomes character bound those of us who only have time to do dailies on one character a day are boned.