Guild Wars 2

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LanfearShadowflame.3189:

SHM.7628:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

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I agree with the OP at least somewhat. Unlocking the map repeatedly is a boring chore.

The fix I suggest: At level 80 areas and WP should all become account bound. That leaves a ton of stuff for you to do for map completion and world completion. You still have to get all the hearts, POI’s, and vistas.

Please implement this.

And miss out on a crap ton of xp.

1 waypoint = ~2.625% of character level.
A normal zone typically has between 10 and 20 waypoints.
At 80, one ‘level’ is 254000xp. That’s roughly 6600xp per waypoint. Assuming a map with the max 20 WPs, lets say you get half of them while leveling and the other half after you hit 80. That’s 66k xp towards a mastery line (10*6600).

Considering you need 12,700,000 xp for the legendary mastery line alone….. Yeah, no. I’ll take that xp tyvm.

making it an option works for me. Anyway, you’re not considering the time involved. While you’re mindlessly getting waypoints you can use the time to get as much or more XP from other sources.

The problem with that assumption is that you’re not doing anything else while getting those waypoints. Which, for a lot of us, is highly unlikely.

I have no issue with their being some means of opting in to having the WPs unlocked (and losing out on things like xp they would have given and map completion), but I feel that more should be necessary than just merely having a lvl 80 on your account, considering you can achieve that in a matter of hours.

Just having a level 80? That wasn’t what i said. I never suggested that at level 80 every WP should magically open up.

I said once your toon dings 80 you get the waypoints that you already opened at least once. If you never opened a waypoint = its locked.

Misunderstood. I suppose that would be sufficient, again, as long as the trade offs are there.

Still, based on comments made in the Pact Commander Mastery stream, I highly doubt they’ll ever do anything like this. The comment was made about opening up waypoints, and they stated they didn’t want to do it because they felt it would result in missing/skipping too much content.

Emelyn.8729:

Ok, how about this:

Character A completes the map the old-fashioned way. Player is then given the option, on a per-character basis, to PAY (either with in-game currency or with real money) to open either all waypoints or only vital waypoints. If Player takes this option, Player forfeits all benefits and rewards afforded by World Completion for that specific character.

Now, let’s go back to my personal bugaboo: in my opinion, vistas should be divorced from World Completion. As I’ve mentioned, I hate them with a red-hot passion. There is a reason I DO NOT DO jumping puzzles (and thus will never get the benefits/rewards and I’m ok with that). It really chaps my hide that there are some vistas that are reachable ONLY by jumping (in some cases, by multiple bouts of jumping). If I want to do World Complete, these blasted jumping puzzles are mandatory. I think that’s an absolute disgrace. It is vistas that will keep me from ever doing a second World Complete. It is vistas that will probably keep me from accomplishing my first World Complete.

Have I mentioned how much I despise jumping in GW2?

I don’t like vistas either. I’m far from adept at them, but I got them done once. I’m considerably better at it now than I was before my first World completion. If I can do it probably most anyone can. I even managed to do a good share of the JP’s. (big shocker there)

I’m ok with your fix if (like you said) that toon gives up any and all rewards associated with it. That is fair in my book. However, there should be no gold/gem or dollar cost to it. the reward loss is significant enough.

Why would you want this?

Every map you complete gives you a chance to get a key, along with gold and crafting materials, I find it worth the time to explore.

SHM.7628:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

SHM.7628:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

SHM.7628:

I agree with the OP at least somewhat. Unlocking the map repeatedly is a boring chore.

The fix I suggest: At level 80 areas and WP should all become account bound. That leaves a ton of stuff for you to do for map completion and world completion. You still have to get all the hearts, POI’s, and vistas.

Please implement this.

Please don’t implement this. Not unless completely optional. That’s the maps I do first on my level 80s for the exotics and other items.

I’m not sure how this would opened waypoints would adversely effect your loot. Perhaps you misunderstood? When You ding level 80, the waypoints would open up that you opened up account wide would open up for that toon. Just the waypoints and are maps.

I’ll say this, I have no problem with it being optional.

If they give you the waypoints then the trade off should be that you won’t get map completion, and the map completion rewards, which is what I’m talking about.

Your logic escapes me. There’s 303 hearts, 652 POI’s and 226 vistas Why on earth should they punish you for just giving the previously opened waypoints?

There are map completion rewards such as the Gift of Exploration and the Star tied to doing all the maps. It’s getting too close to pay to win to buy an easier way to get the Star and the Gift by paying for waypoints unlock. If they want the unlock, they should be willing to give up the extra benefits.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

SHM.7628:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

SHM.7628:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

SHM.7628:

I agree with the OP at least somewhat. Unlocking the map repeatedly is a boring chore.

The fix I suggest: At level 80 areas and WP should all become account bound. That leaves a ton of stuff for you to do for map completion and world completion. You still have to get all the hearts, POI’s, and vistas.

Please implement this.

Please don’t implement this. Not unless completely optional. That’s the maps I do first on my level 80s for the exotics and other items.

I’m not sure how this would opened waypoints would adversely effect your loot. Perhaps you misunderstood? When You ding level 80, the waypoints would open up that you opened up account wide would open up for that toon. Just the waypoints and are maps.

I’ll say this, I have no problem with it being optional.

If they give you the waypoints then the trade off should be that you won’t get map completion, and the map completion rewards, which is what I’m talking about.

Your logic escapes me. There’s 303 hearts, 652 POI’s and 226 vistas Why on earth should they punish you for just giving the previously opened waypoints?

There are map completion rewards such as the Gift of Exploration and the Star tied to doing all the maps. It’s getting too close to pay to win to buy an easier way to get the Star and the Gift by paying for waypoints unlock. If they want the unlock, they should be willing to give up the extra benefits.

I never suggested paying for anything.

Nor, did I suggest a universal unlock. You can’t get the star without opening all the waypoints once. After you did it once = you have the star anyway.

SHM.7628:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

SHM.7628:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

SHM.7628:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

SHM.7628:

I agree with the OP at least somewhat. Unlocking the map repeatedly is a boring chore.

The fix I suggest: At level 80 areas and WP should all become account bound. That leaves a ton of stuff for you to do for map completion and world completion. You still have to get all the hearts, POI’s, and vistas.

Please implement this.

Please don’t implement this. Not unless completely optional. That’s the maps I do first on my level 80s for the exotics and other items.

I’m not sure how this would opened waypoints would adversely effect your loot. Perhaps you misunderstood? When You ding level 80, the waypoints would open up that you opened up account wide would open up for that toon. Just the waypoints and are maps.

I’ll say this, I have no problem with it being optional.

If they give you the waypoints then the trade off should be that you won’t get map completion, and the map completion rewards, which is what I’m talking about.

Your logic escapes me. There’s 303 hearts, 652 POI’s and 226 vistas Why on earth should they punish you for just giving the previously opened waypoints?

There are map completion rewards such as the Gift of Exploration and the Star tied to doing all the maps. It’s getting too close to pay to win to buy an easier way to get the Star and the Gift by paying for waypoints unlock. If they want the unlock, they should be willing to give up the extra benefits.

I never suggested paying for anything.

Nor, did I suggest a universal unlock. You can’t get the star without opening all the waypoints once. After you did it once = you have the star anyway.

The Star is char bound not account. The 100% map completion for the Star and the Gift are tied to that char doing everything. Not bypassing some of it because it’s not convenient to do it.

The consensus so far, you want the convenience, you give up the extra benefits,

Do you make Hero points account bound too? Do you only make it so you only get 1 reward set per account too?